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They had nothing else to do and nowhere to go, so for hours at a time they would gather on four benches beneath a tree in the middle of their estate in southeast London.
Neighbours complained of noise and nuisance and the local housing association proposed to disperse the gang by removing the benches. In response, the alleged troublemakers have pointed out that they are all pensioners, that they are mostly teetotal, and that their long conversations about the Blitz could not possibly amount to antisocial behaviour.
Ann Reddy, 69, a retired medical secretary, said: “I’m 69 and I’m the baby of the group. I have rheumatoid arthritis. One of the group has had a hip replacement, another has had both hips replaced, and another lady recently had open-heart surgery. I don’t think we could possibly be a threat to anyone.”
She admitted that “most of us have sticks”, but added: “We need them to walk. We have never threatened anyone with them.” She did not believe she was keeping anyone awake at night, either. “We are usually back inside by three in the afternoon.”
A threat to remove the benches and put a stop to their afternoon conversations about the weather and what they had bought in the shops that day came from the Broomleigh Housing Association, the landlord of the estate.
Julie Schoon, an assistant director at the association, said: “As a registered social landlord, we are responsible for ensuring that any complaints of nuisance are acted upon.”
She said there had been “a number of complaints” in the past two years about pensioners from the estate in the suburb of Mottingham sitting on the benches. “We are very reluctant to remove any of the benches and would view this as a last resort,” she said. “We have worked hard to try and mediate between those involved.”
The Mottingham pensioners are furious. Rose Anderson, 96, who has nine great-grandchildren, said: “I would be devastated if I was stopped from meeting my friends. I’m so old now and I have nothing else to do.”
Mrs Reddy said that the housing association had suggested they congregate in a park. “I have arthritis,” she said. “I couldn’t get there.”
When she told her doctor that the association was threatening to take away their benches, he asked if she had been drinking. “I don’t drink at all,” she said. “A bit of Lucozade is my tipple. We don’t sit on walls throwing cans of lager. We don’t sing in the middle of the night. It’s unbelievable.”
Mrs Reddy insisted that their conversations were quiet and dignified. “We talk about the weather, who’s bought what, the shop round the corner doing a special offer on bleach. We talk a lot about the war: I love hearing about that. One gentleman was evacuated during the Blitz.” Despite her shock that some neighbours had complained, and her anger at being called a “noise nuisance”, she and her fellow pensioners are ready to fight them on the benches. “I’m not the type to lie down and let people boss me about,” she said. “We are being treated like naughty school-children. I suppose we will have to go and see the headmistress.”
At the housing association, Ms Schoon said: “We are talking to residents and considering various solutions to try to resolve the issue.”
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Clearly we have lost sight of what society and social housing means. We need to encourage such groups and not dissuade them. Such groups enhance society and should be given the opportunity to gel the local community. Bureaucrats seem intent on destroying society and want isolation and misery.
Shailesh Patel, London,
Lets have more benches!
John, Dornoch, Sutherland
These pensioners are being treated like anti-social teens. If hoodies saton park benches and talked about the weather and how nice their shoes were there wouldn't be any complaints.
Benjamin, Letchworth, England
oh dear.they're going to remove the benches?!but i thought benches are for sitting on. those pensioners....up to no good sitting on the benches!
Chendu, London,
The pensioners have been named and identified. Will those people who have complained about them have the moral courage to stand up and identify themselves? Let the world know who these despicable people are.
Stuart Dickson, Palma, Spain
I now live in a country with no restrictions on 'anti-social behaviour'. Kids play where they like. Adults have noisy parties, sing in bars, use car horns to celebrate. Strangers come into your garden for a chat.
We have no crime and a great community. Live and let live works.
jack, Herceg Novi, Montenegro
Did anyone from the housing association actually go and see for themselves whether these aged biker gang members were really terrorising the neighbourhood? I suspect not. Far more conveninet just to send out a letter. Ironic that a social landlord has no sense of society.
Eddie Reader, birmingham, england
Age Concern said recently that too many pensioners are alone with only the TV or radio for company. The pensioners mentioned in this article however are able to get out, meet and benefit from their chats. Lay off them and let them have their rights, wisdom and wellbeing accepted by society as valid.
Steve James, Partington, Gtr Manchester
It seems so silly to try to stop these people gathering together. Don't the people who are complaining understand that these people could be their Mums and Dads or their Grandparents. Surely they should be glad that they make the effort to get out of their homes and actually meet their friends.
Mary, Gloucester, Gloucestershire
So who has checked the noise? How can anyone express an opinion without verifying it? I hope the social landlord does not assume the complaints are valid without checking as well.
Charles Bockett-Pugh, Sandhurst,
The world has become such a selfish place. It seems inconceivable that a group of elderly people who find a bit of joy reminiscing and catching with friends are branded antisocial problems. Can nobody see beyond their own little self involved interests and find a way to reach out and compromise.
Maura, vancouver, canada
It is nice that the pensioners can peacefully gather together and socialize. The people who are complaining should 'get a life'. These people have suffered during at least one World War, and deserve our support and respect.
Mirica, San Diego , USA