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ABOUT 100 internet chatroom users who witnessed a British man kill himself online — including some who allegedly incited him to hang himself — were this weekend being traced by detectives to be questioned over their roles in the “cyber suicide”.
Kevin Whitrick, 42, from Telford, Shropshire, killed himself after being goaded in an “insult” chatroom at the Paltalk website. One of the users is claimed to have told him: “F***ing do it. Get on with it.”
The death has highlighted concerns that some internet forums encourage people to take their lives. According to one charity which works to prevent suicide, there have been 17 deaths in the UK since 2001 which involved chatrooms or sites which give advice on suicide methods.
The Home Office is reviewing the laws over the possible prosecution of internet users who “aid, abet, counsel or procure” others to take their own lives. Campaigners want the police to investigate and prosecute those involved in encouraging online suicides.
A West Mercia police spokesman said yesterday that detectives were working with an American internet service provider to identify about 100 people who were in the chatroom when Whitrick killed himself. They will be offered counselling, but police will also want to reconstruct the online dialogue leading up to Whitrick’s death.
It has been claimed that many of those online thought that Whitrick was play-acting. But detectives will want to establish whether any of those involved were seriously inciting the father of two to kill himself.
Whitrick, who used the online name Shyguy_17_1, was filmed by his computer webcam as he prepared to hang himself. He knocked a hole in his ceiling and attached a rope around an exposed joist.
Tim Bennet, a Paltalk user, said: “We were in an insult chatroom where people trade insults and have a go at each other. A couple of people told me what he was planning to do.
“Then Shyguy_17_1 turned his camera on. You could see him smash through the ceiling, then standing on a chair he hung a rope over an uncovered joist and tied it around his neck.
“People were still having a go at him, telling him to get on with it, shouting abuse over their microphones and writing messages — but he did not respond. And then he did it.
“I initially thought that it was a fake, because you couldn’t see his feet, but then his face started turning blue. I felt sick. The mood suddenly changed, everyone was concerned for him and started talking about calling the police and trying to help him.”
Another Paltalk user, who asked not to be identified, said: “I didn’t think it was real. I have known Kevin for over four years; he always went by his user-names of R1 and ShyBoy_17_1, but he told his close friends on the sites his real name.
“I couldn’t believe he was doing this. He was on the screen shouting, ‘I’ve had it, you think I am full of s**t, not this time’. I hoped it was a stunt but I knew it was real.
“Other people were egging him on, telling him to get on with it, but I was just thinking: this is dangerous. One guy who was chatting on his microphone shouted at Kevin, ‘F***ing do it, get on with it, get it round your neck. For f**k’s sake he can’t even do this properly’.
“Others were talking to him with his old user-name R1 and telling him to stop it. Then all of a sudden it became clear it was not a hoax . . . I watched what happened and felt sick, others were claiming that he was faking it and was still stood on a chair but I knew he was dead.”
According to reports this weekend, as Whitrick died, those in the chatroom realised the seriousness of the situation. One chatroom user is reported to have said: “His face is turning purple. This guy is dead.”
Another contributor added: “Is this real?” Computer users alerted police who traced Whitrick’s address and forced their way into his apartment, but they arrived too late to save him.
Whitrick, who worked for an electrical company in Shrewsbury, was divorced from his wife Paula. The couple had twins, a boy and a girl, aged 12. In a statement, Paula said: “Kevin was a loving father and family man. He was the life and soul of the party and an extremely considerate and kind person. He will be so sadly missed by us all.”
The case raises concerns that many internet users are detached from the impact of what they say online. In a similar death in 2003, Brandon Vedas, a 21-year-old from Phoenix, Arizona, collapsed from a fatal overdose of prescription drugs after he was apparently encouraged to take the drugs by others online.
One user told Vedas: “Eat more . . . that’s not much . . . I wanna see if you survive or you just black out.”
Vedas’s brother Rich said after the death: “These people treat it like somehow it’s not the real world. They forget it’s not just words on a screen.”
In Japan, which has one of the highest suicide rates in the world, there has been a significant increase in suicide pacts arranged via the internet. “Youngsters find that on internet chat sites they can talk about the most intimate of issues with total strangers — including vague notions of wanting to die,” said Mafumi Usui, a psychology professor at Niigata Seiryo University, who has studied the phenomenon.
“Most of them aren’t serious. But say one chat participant starts suggesting concrete plans . . . that’s when the internet can encourage suicide.”
There has also been at least one case in Britain of strangers meeting on the internet and arranging a suicide. Chris Aston, 25, a Manchester University PhD student, and Maria Williams, 42, from southeast London, killed themselves in February 2005 after they met online.
Campaigners want websites giving detailed advice on suicide methods to be shut down. They also want any online users who goad on those considering suicide to be prosecuted.
Paul Kelly, a trustee of Papyrus, the charity which works to prevent suicide in young people, said: “Some of these sites which incite or give advice on suicide are horrifying. They are encouraging vulnerable people to take their own lives.”
Kelly’s own son Simon committed suicide in 2001 after researching methods of death online. Kelly has compiled details of 16 other deaths since 2001 involving the internet.
Following the government’s review of laws in the area, campaigners say they should be up-dated to make it explicit that incitement to commit suicide via websites or online is an offence. The maximum penalty would be 14 years in jail.
Many search engines, such as Google, already ensure there are prominent links to organisations such as the Samaritans when computer users search online under the word “suicide”. But there are concerns that there is no UK organisation which monitors suicide websites and collates complaints.
Web chats before dying
Kevin Whitrick. Died March 21 2007, Shropshire
Shyguy_17_1 (Whitrick): I’ve had it, you think I am full of s***, not this time.
- F****** do it, get on with it, get it round your neck. For F***’s sake he can’t even do this properly.
- Oh my God, this is serious. Someone should call the police.
- His face is turning purple. This guy is dead.
- His face is turning red. OMG (Oh My God).
- Is this real?
Brandon Vedas, 21. Died January 12 2003, Arizona
Ripper (Vedas): Tonight is a (good) night fellas...klono, methadone, restoril, inderal, weed. bottoms up.
- Dude you just drank it. Ripper: Yeah.
- Eat more Ripper: Righty hoe.
- F****** eat it. Ripper: Ripper has perished.
- You’d better not go to sleep
- Breathe
- Man don’t die
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Its not just "people making choices". The brain on a suicidal mindset is different than the brain that isn't. You can't just shoot your mouth off and expect that nothing will happen. Its an unstable mindset, and what you say and do can very easily set it off and render you an accessory to suicide.
Anonymous, Grayslake, U.S.A.
What about the irresponsible people who let him have internet service in the first place and let him get online to see these things. The people in the modern world blame all their own screwups on everyone else. He took his own life. if he had been in his right mind he wouldn't have done that in the first place, regardless of who said what. If more people took responsibility for their own actions instead of blaming the influence of others, we might all live in a better place.
April, Phoenix,
i would like to no why paltalk put this in the terms of paltalk
deems in its sole discretion to be harmful or offensive to other users is unacceptable for any reason or no reason whatsoever or otherwise detracts from the Paltalk service or adversely affects Paltalk, its business or software in any manner whatsoever. Without limiting the foregoing, examples of unacceptable conduct include: (a) threatening, harassing, or intimidating another user, (b) transmitting any unlawful, threatening, abusive, profane, offensive, defamatory, or hateful text or voice communication or Images or other material, or any racially, ethnically or otherwise and then let this happen .paltalk should be held for this. This is a disgrace.R.I.P WHO WILL BE THE NEXT A CHILD
SEAN, NEWARK, NOTTINGHAMSHIRE
I would like to know why Paltalk is not being held responsible for this. This is a disgrace.
Angela, los angels , california
RIP Kevin Whitrick.
April, Colorado Springs, Colorado
If it wasn't going to be people on the internet goading him into killing himself, it would've been something else. Why would he go into an INSULT chatroom for support? Guidance? You choose the guidance you're gonna get. It IS just words on a freakin screen. They aren't magic. They don't leap up to you and put the noose around your neck. Isn't that what you tell your kids? Sticks and stones can break my bones, but words can never hurt me? They can't hurt unless you let them hurt.
And, As a Psychology major, I'd just like to point out that Depressed people don't necessarily kill themselves any more than regular people do. There are two kinds of suicides; One: People who seriously want to die, and nothing is going to convince them otherwise, and people that want attention. Maybe these kinds of incidents will help people realize you won't get good attention by attempting suicide. Get attention by going to a hospital; by talking to friends; Get out there and find good support. Jesus Wept.
miChelle, Edmonton, Canada
I remember when I was sixteen years of age, for some reason I do not even know myself, I wanted to die, I can't even remember what I swallowed, or thought about the real consequences of my actions, I remember the next day waking up and going to work, on the way home from work I met someone I knew on the Bus, he asked me if I was on drugs, I know why he thought that because that is how I felt all woozey te next day. I am now 56 years of age have four wonderful children and a wondeful husband I really enjoy living. But that episode has never left my thoughts, I often wonder if it is the consequence of all the hormones racing through my body at that time neither a girl nor a woman. I cannot believe that not once did I have any thoughts for my parents, my brohers, what was I thinking and I truely thank God that I did not fall into a permanent status of sleep, what I am trying to say is on hind sight that they do not really want to end their life.
susan wilkins, Rugby, Warwickshire, England.
Alot of depressed people in the world,People need to wake up and realize DEPRESSION is REAL,, NO ONE knows the pain inside someone else or what is going on in someones lives. It is so sad that someone would encourage another to take their life,WHAT IF it were one of your own family members,,Actually no program on the internet should allow anyone to make up a room where you can have a go at someone,, REMEMBER,,,WORDS DO HURT AND ONCE SAID YOU CAN NOT TAKE BACK,,~~!!!
sissy_31, Davy, West Virginia