How lovely for you all to have been born in England and given an english name (un-pronouncable - how ignorant are you?) Maybe, just maybe, a little empathy for the plight of others might help. Imagine having to carry a knife to fit in or protect yourself, these kids are probably terrified.

Hayley, Sheffield, UK

Don't you just long for the return of Good Old England with those great english sounding names like Ryan (Michael), Hanratty, Shipman, Kray, McVittie, Sutcliffe, Brady, Hindley, Nilsen, Christie, Crippen, Neilson!!!! Children killing children is a damning indictment on all of us whatever their names

Andrew, Sheffield,

Almost as guilty as the perpetrators of these horrors, are the inaptly named social-networking sites which deal in the daily gossip of these degenerates to pump up the revenue streams of their advertisers. Of course the Bebomens raise their clean and innocent hands protesting that their invocations to "Stop Street Violence" and "Have Fun, Stay Safe, Be Well" are stern and helpful axioms. Well well, guttersnipes with knives are as good for business as anything else I guess.

Ian, Berwick, UK

After Dunblane nanny Blair removed the right for law abiding citizens (after rigorous police checks) to own pistols for target shooting. Even our olympians have the practise abroad. As 15 year olds can now easily get illegal guns to shoot each other, can the rest of us at least have our sport back?

Graham, Oxford, UK

These folk bring the social mores from their mother countries and will never respond or conform to "European" ways. If we do not want to live in a society ruled by warlords, we need to recover control from them. Knives and guns do not respond to friendly overtures.

Sean, Coventry, UK

The name Mark...anglisized fron Latin "Marcus" someone dedicated to Mars. We're all strangers here.

Jeremy, Cheltenham, U K

What do the majority of these thugs have in common? Obvious, isn't it?

gerry, exeter, england

I'm afraid that Clint, Brighton is not so much misguided as plain wrong. If there is excessive violence in a minority culture, you don't solve it by arresting Chelsea Pensioners. You can only solve it by addressing the problem where it is.

Or you take the US approach and simply ignore it.

jon livesey, Sunnyvale, CA/USA

it looks to me as if these kids are looking for meaning in their lives and,terribly misguidedly,finding that meaning in gangs.we need to openly discuss with kids what life is about so they can learn to follow really worthwhile paths.theproblem is,these kids probably don't have anyone todiscuss with.

Marco, KrakOw, Poland

To Clint, Brighton
Fine words, but by pretending that the problem is "randomly pan-social" is to hide the most important aspect of it and thus make solution difficult. We have for far too long pretended about these things for misplaced "politeness" and are now stuck with taboos that prevent us from naming many of the sources of our problems. We can't even WRITE the words !!!

Sean, Coventry, UK

There are some immigrant groups from countries where life is dangerous. Carrying weapons is normal and expected, and "justice" is in the hands of individuals or tribal leaders. It is no surprise that they bring their social mores with them. To pretend otherwise is foolish and dangerous. People who find this notion unpalatable should know that it is - but we have had no choice and now have to deal with it, not pretend that it is not so.

JJ, London, UK

We should be judging people by their actions not their names. By all means have reduced sympathy for a 'victim' who engaged in a seriously criminal lifestyle, but the law abiding majority need to face this problem together and causing division on the basis or origin, race etc won't help this.

Clint, Brighton, UK

Unpronounceable names.
Murderous habits.
Heavy use of social services.
Protection against criticism by government decree.
Exemption from severe punishments by EU human rights law.

But lifelong residence does not entitle you to membership.

Sean, Coventry, UK

Yes Mark, I agree.

Not unusual, though, is it?

Nearly every press report on violent crime has unpronounceable names in the write-up these days.

Good old England is vanishing beneath the waves forever.

Annie , Bath, UK

Look on the bright side. This has saved a fortune in jail costs, unemployment benefit and all the other handouts he would have sponged off us to pay for his life of crime.

Luke, London, UK

good riddance to scum! If he was a gun carrier then he probably would have used it against someone else!

phil, Worcester,

What is happening to England? The response to this rise in murder between teenagers is farcical. The authorities need to regain their control of the streets of British cities through the use of force. These children are obviously completely out of control

Paul, Carlow, Ireland

All good old fashioned English sounding names in the article.

Mark, Leeds,