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PUPILS and teachers have been told by an official body not to stare at Muslims for fear of causing offence.
A document intended to educate against religious intolerance and sectarianism urges teachers to “make pupils aware of the various forms of Islamophobia, ie stares, verbal abuse, physical abuse”.
But Learning Teaching Scotland (LTS), which issued the advice to schools north of the border, has been criticised by politicians and Muslim leaders for going “over the top”.
The document states: “Some Muslims may choose to wear clothing or display their faith in a way that makes them visible. For example, women may be wearing a headscarf, and men might be wearing a skullcap. Staring or looking is a form of discrimination as it makes the other person feel uncomfortable, or as though they are not normal.”
Osama Saeed, a spokesman for the Muslim Association of Britain, accused officials of going too far. “There are far more serious elements of Islamophobia. People look at all sorts of things — that can just be a glance. A glance and a stare are two different things — glances happen naturally when all sorts of things catch your eye whereas a stare is probably gawking at something.
“Personally I have not encountered much of a problem with people staring. I don’t know how you legislate for that.”
Murdo Fraser, deputy leader of the Scottish Conservatives, said: “In a multicultural society like ours there are people with all different forms of dress and I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect children in particular to look at those who are differently dressed from them. To describe this as a form of discrimination seems to go completely over the top.”
Meanwhile, a survey of London’s Muslims shows that more of them identify with Britain than do the majority population. The Gallup poll, which is part of the biggest global survey of Muslims, shows 57% of Muslims identified with Britain as their home, compared with 48% of the rest of the population.
The poll also found that 74% of Muslims believe they are loyal to Britain and 78% of Muslims said they had confidence in Britain’s police force — a higher proportion than the rest of the population.
The survey shows 67% of Muslims have confidence in the judicial system and 73% believe in the British democratic process. This compares with 55% and 60% respectively among the general public.
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Remind them of our national treasures, the beauty of our country and people, the wilderness we preserved, the great history that made us the free people who enjoy a standard of life never achieved by those primitive savage barbarians, and our achievements in arts, science, human rights, medicine, life expectancy, our literature, theater, great architecture, our marvelous cities, all these things that the primitive savage muslims hate with a passion, our freedoms, our equal rights, our beautiful men and women, our lucky children, all of which they hate. Remind the people of all these things they hate about us. And then, in a measured way, let the people through our power of vote and free assembly begin to undo the damage these primitives whom we let in have done to us. It is time to turn the tide...
Robert, Melbourne, Australia
In my school, we have no discrimination
Andrew, Bucharest, Romania
i think this whole issue is a bit ridiculous. i as a muslim woman living in the UK have accepted that i may get a few stares, and to be honest i think it's perfectly natural for some people to stare, because i probably do stand out wearing my scarf. i definitely do not agree that anyone should be forced to take it off. i just wish people would learn to accept me for what i am. wearing another bit of material on my head does not make me any less of a woman than any other woman on the street. everyone has the right to wear what they want, but in my opinion everyone has the right to 'stare' at who they want as well. i wish we could all get over these minor differences and unite as humanity.nobody has the right to dictate how someone else dresses. as a muslim, i personally do not consider a stare to be that offensive. some might, i don't.
Muslimah, London,
"If our grandparents had treated the Nazis as we treat the Muslims today, we would all speak German now."
ummm.i think you are THE MOST stereotypical guy EVER.
why classify all Muslims are terrorists. is that yr honest opinion?! when if u actually look at the initial acts of terrorism..such as by guy fawkes...they were not by muslims. or are you going to reply that by saying that Muslims did not have the knowledge of doing so. do some research and find out that Musilms were the MOST CIVILISED and most advanced people in that era...
and also to those who say Muslims should condemn violence..they do!!! its wrong!! Read a newspaper that actually publishes an article which defends Muslims..oh it will eb hard to find such a newspaper. go to www.muslimnews.co.uk and read articles there! and also..if u read THIS article properly...you will have seen that muslims have actually criticised such a STUPID document..i agreee.it's ridiculous!
Muslim, London,
When i sit outside on the grass in summertime, my feet face forwards. I have heard that in Thailand, it isconsidered rude/insulting to point your feet at a person. So, if a Thai person is in the vicinity, is it my responsibility to crouch rather than sit? or the Thai's responsibility to walk around behind me? Or to accept that his culture and my culture are different and not to take offence where none is intended? The point being, if we modify our behaviour to suit others, we are being untruthful to ourselves. Perhaps the solution is that when*you*are in a country, you make an effort to respect*that nation's*culture, and do not ask for them to respect your culture unless*they*are in*your*country. The people of Britain have to decide whose country Britain is and what is it's national culture.
Marco, bhm, uk
The 'thought police' strike again!
How does one obey the official written instruction as opposed to the natural, unconscious, uncontrolled instinct that many people exhibit as a reflex action when confronted with someone they may consider a 'foreigner'?
Are we to walk around with our eyes shut - just in case we happen to look their way?
As Liam Byrne (British Immigration Minister) quite clearly said yesterday
'Large-scale immigration has damaged the poorest communities and deeply unsettled the country'.
And people WILL stare. So what? It is a completely natural thing to do - it's just a little bit rude, that's all. No big deal.
Annie, Bath, UK
I am a German living in the UK and since I moved to London there has not been a single day on which I did not want to vomit because of this self-destructing political-correctness. I can perfectly understand why so many Britons are leaving for Australia as this thing here has completely gone out of control.
--
"If our grandparents had treated the Nazis as we treat the Muslims today, we would all speak German now."
Tom, London,
Holy cow, now looking at somebody is discrimination? How big of pansies have we turned in to that we can't look at somebody...
When does the first lawsuit come out that sues somebody for it.
"But, your honor, he LOOKED at me!"
Grow up you bunch of damn sissies. This is getting to s tupid level of political correctness
Dan, Minneapolis, MN
Britain, france and Germany are getting what they want for themselves. The self-hatred the inhabitants of these countries possess is profoundly tragic, a complete turnaround from fifty or sixty years ago. It seems as though the indigenous peoples of these places will only be satisfied when everybody is dragged down to the same level. Problem is, nature NEVER allows everybody to exist on the same plane; it simply cannot be... Goodbye, politically correct Europe! Just don't look for help when you have finally suceeded in reaching the bottom.
James, OR, USA
Mad dogs , englishmen, and muslims need to be isolated from the rest of the free world. The insane liberalism of the english people has destroyed the once tremendous beneficial world wide modernization and accomplishments of the british empire. Liberalism subsequently opened the flood gates for regressive ancient and barbaric cultures such as the islamic muslim cult to infect the lands and virtually destroy the progressive standard of living as inspired and enjoyed by theJudeo- Christian society throughout the british empire. Today where ever muslims controll these lands the standard of living has regressed and bloodshed runs rampant. Liberalism made it possible.
The Jews tolerated the nazies. Now the Christians are tolerating the muslims. The Jews had the Christians to salvage their liberal butts from the nazies.. Who will salvage the liberal Christians from the muslims. And Why?
The oil rich muslims will make the nazies look like choir boys in their quest to destroy nonbelievers.
Ron Lorence, Longwood, Florida
England apparently turned into a nation controlled by islamic middle-age parties. It seems to be true, England is the first European country that gave up its culture and roots.
JoS, Munich, Germany
Muslims wake up! If you don't do something about your radical factions, the rest of the world will continue to do so and you will have no say in the matter whatsoever! You must condemn violence! You must condemn the radical statements made by radical groups otherwise you will grouped amongst them. Seperate yourselves from them. Denying the Holocaust is about as ridiculous a postion and statement that anyone could make. Not only does it lack intelligence, it is just plain stupid and pathetic! The choice is yours.
frank mineo, spring hill, fl
When is this nonsense going to end?When Islam rules Britain?You all keep bending back as not to offend you will fall flat on your back. That happens, pack your bags,turn in the keys to the castle to the Imam and prepare to be deported.Stop giving in, make them realize this is Britain dude assimulate or get back to your own country!!What is next? No beer! Close those pubs so you do not offend!!! Where are the Britons?????
Tom Rahnn, Boise, Idaho, USA
Raymond Newberry is exactly right. Here in L.A. we've learned to live with it. The gangbangers call it 'mad dogging'. This means if you stare at a gangbanger, you pay the price. It happens at the school where I work all the time. So those who live in L.A. with these gangsters , know how to survive. The situation is similar. In the U.K. their immigrants causing concern are Muslims. Here in L.A., it's Latin America. It just causes further polarization of the people.
teacher, L.A., USA
Freedom of relegion is somthing we are blessed with in the United States, there are different types of Muslims just like there are different types of Christians and other relegions. The fact is the terrorism we are fighting now are Muslim and they believe their killing is justified. I do not discriminate against Muslims, but it does worrry me that so many are comming into the United States and the ones that still dress like they are in their country does raise more of my suspitions.
Ryan, Amarillo, Texas
This reminds me of spinal tap where upon pointing to the amplifier in the special room of collected instruments, Nigel touts, "Dont even point at it"
"I'm not pointing at it, I'm just looking at it"
"Well, don't even Look at it!"
God...bunch of whiny freaks. I'll stare at anyone I want to! Muslim or hot chicks!
Chris, Fullerton,Ca,
Where is the flower of Scotland?
"Those days are past now,
And in the past
they must remain,
But we can still rise now,
And be the nation again,
That stood against him,
Proud Edward's Army,
And sent him homeward,
Tae think again".
Philippe, Brussels, Belgium
Remember the saying, "When in Rome, do as the Romans...," well, Muslims need to work on acclimating themselves, their culture and religion, to fit into the societies that they are moving into. If they don't want to be stared at, perhaps they should give up wearing their body coverings in non-Islamic countries. Both Christianity and Judaism have reformed their religions to fit into secular society, and now it is time for Muslims to realize that they, too, need to "update" their image. I've never heard of a group of people who expected the rest of the world to accomodate them when they are out of their country. When my family moved to America, they wanted to become American; they even modified their name to sound more American. If they don't want to Westernize, then they should stay in their own retrograde societies.
Tracy Jamieson, Tucson, AZ, USA
I think it's all due to Global Warming like every other problem in the world. Or maybe Global Warming will save us, flood the earth and kill us all before the Muslims take over.
Allen, San Fransisco, US
I wish people cared as much about not staring at handicapped, or fat people. I am sick of Muslims being a special class we all have to bow to......I will bow when the time comes, but they will only see the backside.
Julie, Burke, USA
This is madness. Instead of telling pupils not to stare at muslims, they should educate muslims to dress and behave like decent people of the 21st century.
Britain which once was a great and respected country, has now come to be afraid of her muslim immigrants.What a pity!
rom, Luxembourg,
If I ever visit the UK again I will bring a pair or wrap around sunglass with very dark lenses. They won't see were my eyeballs are.
martha mayham, pasco, usa/washington
Instead of telling pupils not to stare at muslims, they should educate muslims to dress and behave like decent people of the 21st century.
Britain once was a great and respected country. Now it has come to be afraid of its own muslim immigrants!
What a pity!
rom, Luxembourg,
This is a joke, isn't it. What's next, you people are supposed to kneel when muslims cross your way ? An unbelievable stupid and devastatingly advice. Good night UK
JoS, Munich, Germany
This is EXACTLY the reason why I support the BNP (British National Party).
And also why more British people are also supporting them
Anthony David Jones, Ashton u Lyne, Lancs.UKistan
Where the hell is King Arthur when you need him? He is having Lancelot beheaded for staring at Maid Marian.
Sid, Brooklyn, NY
With the Islamic population at 3X that of the Brits, The only hope you have left is that America will bail you out when the time comes. But I don/t see that happening. The liberals in America have no backbone for a real fight and it is they that control the media.
Joe, San Antonio, Texas
I don't like the trend that society has taken towards Muslims here in America. Racial profiling, homeland security, I am totally for it.
As far as staring at Muslims, I would have to defend them on this issue. Again here in America, we are surrounded by a bunch of low life scum bags that are called gang bangers. For ever good guys and girls have been shot, wounded, beat up and murdered because someone "stared at an idiot".
Because someone stared at them (gang bangers). Is that a crime? No but to the stupid people classified in the low IQ level as gang bangers, to them it is, punishable by death.
Raymond Newberry, Temecula, California
The point is, it is rude to stare - well it is anyway according to the good old saying. Staring at anyone because of their physical appearance is wrong and gawking at somebody because of their religious identity is ignorant - Muslim, Sikh, Christian, Hindu or anything else one may choose to be identified as.
Children, and adults alike from the comments made on here, need to learn more about manners and how to gain respect in order to respect others.
The issue of a modern day Britain is much deeper than just simply jumping on the "Britain is dead because of the immigrant population" bandwagon. Making the non-indigenous people the scapegoat for all of Britain's problems is typical of the shift the blame coward type people out there.
Wake up people and have some backbone.
FAli, Bradford, UK
Europe is doomed and Islam is winning. We are deliberately capitulating to Islam. That is the bitter truth......
rom, Luxembourg, Luxembourg
What has happened to the Brits has been systematic of the perverse political correctness docterine that Stalin started back in Russia. It is an infection that can only be stopped by rejecting current U.K. leadership which is about 10 times worse than American leadership. This is bad news for you British, because we have very bad leadership here.
This is caused by the political illusionists!!!!
Political Illusionists: politicians who make you believe that you need them without adding any values for the people they serve, by passing self serving look good laws only for political or monetary gain.
What I recommend is simple, stop turning to the tube for help you won't find it there. Here in the U.S. people have watched and believed the tube for most of their lives. Some have finally realized there is a problem called government media complex, turning to the tube for answers or help is futile. Remember who you are as a people (BRITISH), look beyond appearances to What Is Real.
A.A., Ventura, U.S.A
US commenters suggesting this proposed policy signifies the doom of Britain need to go back and read their US newspapers.
Minnesota Muslim cabdrivers insisted they would not transport people with alcohol, and the agency with control was ready to accomodate them until today. A college is installing footwashers for muslims. Sports teams have dropped "anti-muslim" names (e.g., the Crusaders). California children of illegal aliens go to school-subsidized- because we want to absorb them, (not exclude as the french do). LAPD doesen't report illegals to the feds, lest it dilute willingness to trust the police (unless they are arrested and convicted).
Absorbing brings minor excesses like "no staring" (which seems well-intentioned even if somewhat idiotic--what next--no whispering?). Those are inevitable and usually corrected as the demands of Minnesota muslim cabrivers were.
England seems to be on the basic right path as the polls of muslim confidence in its judiciary show.
Tim, Los Angeles, USA
We're not supposed to see them? If we don't, we're accused of being rude. What are our options other than seeing them or not seeing them?
Curt M. Allen-Little, Ocean Isle Beach, North Carolina USA
So staring is discrimination while holding a sign that says "Massacre those who insult Islam" and "Islam will dominate the World" are merely free speech. Are the lunatics running the asylum???
Lisa, Salem, VA
Once the sun never set on the British Empire. Now, not only has it set, it does not even shine, illuminate or otherwise shed light on that green and pleasant land. All is dark. Rabbits when frightened by their predators go into a state of shock and sucuumb to the lethal bite. The British PC Brigade are frightened rabbits that will infect the rest of the UK with their abject fear of radical Islam until the Union Jack has been replaced the red crescent. .
Dave, Los Angeles, USA/CA
If I walk around in a funny scarf, speak a different language, do not tolerate any other point of view, eat different food, pray at odd times and despise all others.
Why would anyone think differently, or look at me differently. ? We have a saying, if you like Texas stay. If not get the h.ll out.!
Desmond Taylor, Houston, USA Texas
I vomited in my mouth, This is out of control. No other religions are given such sacred elitism. I guess the looming threat of bombs and decapitations are beating men into cowards.
infidel, USA,
For the life of me if you Brits keep letting this go on there going be a war within your country let me make this clear stop bending over backwards for these people BECAUSE THEY DO;NT LIKE ANYTHING WESTERN and for my fellow americans if its not to late you better wake up!
Otis Hutcherson, albany, NY
First Islamic sensitivity counseling for gov't officials, then no Holocaust teachings, the banning of hot cross buns by a hospital on Easter, now this. Britain is not becoming an Islamic state. It already is one. They just don't know it yet.
Time for Liz to trade in her crown for a burqa.
I remember when they bent over backwards to please Hitler. How'd that work out?
TheMadKing, Nashu, NH USA
"I disagree. As a retired Diplomat I find this perfectly reasonable"
D.P. Dance, Reading, Berks, UK
Yes, but you and your ilk are responsible for it !! Shame on you !
Walters, BS, Germany
This reads like fiction. Are there no real men left in the UK? Has this society become so sclerotic and dissipated as to now bend the knee to low lifes such as these latest Muslim hordes, who seek to conquer from within, using women's clothing as cover and suicide bombers as soldiers? Once the last bastion of civilization, Great Britain has degenerated to this disgraceful capitulation. My God. Surely the land that spawned Robert the Bruce to the north and Churchill to the south can summon more than this. If not, we are witnessing the death of civilization.
Larry, San Diego, CA, USA
This is just plain nuts and it's getting just as crazy here.
Mark Shipley, Glasgow, USA/Kentucky
You know, we're being destroyed by the enemy within. Be careful people. The government and the media are hiding the truth from all of us. They are more concerned about what a disc jockey said over the air. It is time to take this country back from all invaders! We need people like Eisenhower, Churchill and Patton! Not these liberal empty skirts and suits with no backbone!
Dan, Saratoga Springs, New York
What a tragedy - the natives of this land feel so uncomfortable in Britain that they feel less at home then Muslim immigrants.
As many around the world are saying - Britain is dead.
DaveP, Beverley, UK
You have got to be kidding me! Britain disband your military and just hoist the white flag of surrender. This is so so sad for such a great country, I hope the left is extatic with the extinction of Brittish culture and values. So long Brittania.
Bob, Murfreesboro, , TN, USA
"The holy warrior is he who struggles with himself." So said the Muslim prophet,as I would also implore all native British citizens to do amongst themselves..do you wish a country 49% English? Do you not remember your business classes in school...when another takes 51% control of your 'business' you no longer have any say so. Good luck...and don't become the mirror image of the French limpness!
chris, Charlotte,NC, USA
When I'm standing in the queue at the grocery store, I do not want anyone staring at me in my Spiderman costume!
You...you Spider-Phobics you!
Cam, Greater Detroit, Michigan, USA
Good bye Great Britain. You were once a great country!
You did it to yourselves when you were more worried and concerned about others feelings instead of your own.
The fall of a country is very sad!
carolyn, midwest, USA
This is too Orwellian for me. I'm gonna miss you when your gone, Britain. :(
Keli , Texas, USA
Why must Britain become a sharia state before you brit's do anything about it. I have been to the UK around 20 times. The contrast over the years is shocking. You kneel to the islamic foot and gladly kiss it. Where is the backbone of the old marines that I used to know. If you are lucky the football hooligans will save you from yourself.
George Austin, El Paso , Texas, USA
Political Correctness is a murderer. Many of the innocent will die because of Political Correctness. Political Correctness is treacherous and deceitful. In reality, Political Correctness is a lie. People who love and condone Political Correctness are murderers, liars, deceitful, dishonest, and treacherous.
Philip Saenz, Houston, Texas, USA
I've got a good idea. How about if the real true British people become Christians and stand firm on their faith in Jesus the Son Of God... oh, that's right it's not PC to use the word "J-e-s-u-s"...nevermind. Allah is the only "god" allowed in PC-land.
Nathan, Manchester, UK
I'm sick to death of the British PC brigade who constantly bow down before backward Muslim sensibilities.
Godiva, Paris,
I read this sort of thing about Britain and I really cant believe it is all true. You people must be mad to allow what is taking place, have you guys no National/Cultural pride anymore? As an Australian I can only say that if I lived in the UK I would be voting BNP come every election, because Britain seems to be heading towards complete destruction and they are the only ones standing up and saying enough is enough.
Grant, Sydney, Australia
I disagree. As a retired Diplomat I find this perfectly reasonable
D.P. Dance, Reading, Berks, UK
"Britons, never, ever, will be slaves!!"
Sorry - try to get a good fit for those shackles,
because you don't want them to chafe.
Make sure you bow properly to your new Masters.
Stand well back, and cringe, bow & scrape.
("Whinging" seems in order)
Learn the proper obeisance. Prepare to convert
to Islam and slavery, or be killed.
Goodbye, "Christian" Britain, and all that was good.
Bill, San Francisco, US
Britain will reap what it sows. Just ask Neville Chamberlain or look to the Paris suburbs and the nightly cars ablaze.
Bob Jones, Austin, TX
I hope you folks realize that part of the laws of being a Dhimmi was the prohibition of Dhimmis looking directly at a Muslim. At all times, the Dhimmi was to gaze downward, in a respecful manner when in the presens of a Muslim.
Vince P, Chicago, USA
If I dressed in a priestly robe and built an altar of rough stones in the high street in order to sacrifice a lamb with a stone knife to God most high, I would expect passers-by to turn their heads and stare. It is the same for people who go about dressed as assassins.
Malcolm McLean, Bradford, UK
I have to say that this level of political correctness scares me to the bone.
If we modify what we teach to children today for fear of offending some sense of disbelief goes to the heart of the human condition-- we'd rather believe a lie because the truth is too painful/inconvenient.
And of peoples, I would've thought that after Hitler, and WWII, the brit's would be strong enough to stand against ignoring history for conveinence's sake.
Steve, Carson city, Nevada, USA