Sian Griffiths
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Are you living near a private school? Would you like to use its swimming pool, or rowing lake, or chapel? Do you fancy the idea of your child getting free Latin lessons there? Or can you think of some other way the school could serve the community?
It doesn’t have to be a famous school like Eton or Harrow – you might live near a small one that isn’t a household name. But if you have any good wheezes – Suzi Leather would like to hear from you.
Leather, 51, is the woman at the sharp end of one of the most contentious Labour policies, an attack on the financial basis of private schools that some see as little more than class war.
When the government recently changed the law – scrapping the automatic and historic charitable status of private schools – it delighted leftwingers, who had long asked what on earth was charitable about schools that charge up to £28,000 a year and enable rich children to dominate top universities. Okay, some might have been set up to educate paupers, but that was centuries ago.
From next spring private schools will have to prove they are still charities – by publicly detailing enough good works – if they want to keep their charitable status, which carries with it tax breaks estimated at £100m across the sector.
Leather, as head of the Charity Commission, is the woman leading the organisation that will have to judge whether a school is doing enough to meet the new test.
Sitting behind her desk in the commission’s London offices, she frowns as she explains why the job is so important. “At the end of the day there is a monetary value on charitable status in the form of tax breaks,” she says. “If a charity is unable to demonstrate any public benefit value but is enjoying these tax advantages, the public might well ask: is this a body that deserves this status?”
And that’s why she wants to hear from you. “I am really keen to hear from anyone with views on what private schools could do to justify charitable status,” she says. “There will be a lot of ideas we have not thought of.”
Of course, there’s a lot she has already thought of. This mother of three, who has been dubbed both Sexy Suzi and Quango Queen (this is the third high-profile quango she has chaired in the past decade; she was made a dame in the honours list two years ago) reels off a few suggestions for private schools to digest.
For starters, they could coach state school children in interview techniques to help shoehorn them into universities such as Oxford and Cambridge. “I would like to see the number of state school children going up in top universities,” she says. “This is one way private schools could demonstrate public benefit.”
Then – as many have been rushing to do in recent months – schools could give more places away. Not necessarily to poor children, either, just to ones whose families can’t afford the fees (which must be quite a lot of us).
By now she’s in full flood. “They could allow state schools to use sports, arts or music facilities; they could let state school pupils attend their lessons; they could help set up city academies and they could work with schools overseas.” And if they can’t do any of these, Leather wants private school trustees to “go down the road” and chat to the local state head teacher about “the most useful things to do”.
“This local dialogue will help break down what is quite a separated system of education. To bring these communities together would be good.”
Will the good works have to be worth as much as the tax breaks? “No, I am not expecting an exact equivalence,” she says. “Some activities will be tricky to put a price on.”
But Leather, a Labour party member, has a determined jut to her chin as she spells out the consequences for anyone that fails to measure up.
“If a school is determined not to show any public benefit it cannot be a charity,” she explains. “And the law does not allow a school to walk away from being a charity and take assets with it. We can take those charitable assets and redistribute them.”
True, she adds that she thinks the prospect is “vanishingly rare”. Nonetheless, even a fleeting image of the rolling acres of one of our famous schools being “redistributed” is shocking.
“This is not about class war; it’s about maintaining the integrity of charitable status,” she insists.
The government’s move on charities may have delighted leftwingers but it has infuriated and terrified many private schools. The Independent Schools Council has already warned that it may mount legal challenges to the commission’s guidelines. (“I’m confident our legal reasoning is sound,” retorts Leather.)
Paul Easterbook, head of the 220-strong prep school Hatherop Castle, near Cirencester in Gloucestershire, is so worried he breaks off from a croissant-making trip with a class of 11-year-olds in France to spell out his anxieties. “Yes, we are concerned,” he says. “We were set up to further education. That was enough of a charitable purpose when we started [in 1926]. But now we are going to be swamped with large demanding annual returns in which we will have to provide a lot of information to the Charity Commission and on which it will judge us.
“Our fees are our income. That is it. It all comes off the bottom line for us.”
From an income of £1.5m, the school already provides subsidised places worth £40,000. “We have looked at Farm Africa and we support the local church.” But he’s not sure whether they will be seen to be doing enough.
“We are aware there are going to be demands on us and if we cannot meet them we have 220 little lives in our hands. We know what we are doing we do well; we get good results and turn out all-rounders. Not to be able to carry on would be a travesty. But if we can’t meet the commission’s requirements it will be a problem.”
Isn’t Leather perturbed by such stories and by the risk that some schools may have to raise fees to hard-pressed parents to pay for change?
After all, she was herself educated for a while at a private school and still has a daughter at a fee-paying school in Devon, which she declines to name. “It does lots of charitable works” is all she will give away.
“We are not saying that schools have to ask parents to pay more. We are giving a range of ways schools can do this,” she says. But she does reveal that she has ruled herself out of final decision-taking about whether an individual school is allowed to remain a charity because she feels that her daughter’s position creates a potential “conflict of interest”.
After a few more weeks of consultation, in July the commission will issue its final guidelines to schools. Next spring they will have to set out their charitable activities alongside the value of their tax breaks.
“I think that for some this will be the first time schools have seriously sat down and thought, okay, what is it that we do do?” says Leather. She pauses. “I think it will be of considerable interest to the public.”

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I think the labour government is trying to distract us all from the question of why the state schools are not doing well and competing with the private sector. We have been told that a lot of money has been poured into the state sector.
I say give people the choice. If they wish to send their children to the private sector, reduce their tax!
Terry
Terry , Berkshire ,
I think we are having this discussion because labour MPs are so fed up with people pointing their fingers at them saying "Look who's sending the children to a private school..". I'm sure after all have been discussed, we will all agree that private schools are not so bad after all. From then on, no labour MPs wouldn't have to feel ashamed. The end.
IW, Bristol,
I did say, 'If you choose the right school', but read what you will...
Nick, London,
...and so the gap prevails and widens ever more...it makes me sad that we live in such an elitist & closed society. There is not "a feeling of entitlement that pervades our society", certainly not from where I'm standing anyway!
"If you choose the right school, there are plenty of bursaries available (for bright children) - if you aren't willing to cough up the rest, you have to make do with the state alternative". I cannot agree with this Nick from London, I'm sorry, it seems to me that it's a case of if your face fits...I am willing to cough up 3/4 of what's required and still am unable to secure a small bursary to meet the rest for only 2 years of study at A'level - am I asking the earth - no, I don't think so...shoud I sell my home to send my child to receive a half decent education...and live where...? I can't even afford to pay for music lessons.
I work hard and get nowhere - I am trying to break this cycle for my child and all that we seem to do is go around in circles...
Rachel, Bristol,
Exactly what is the basis for the comment that schools will not just be able to dispense with charitable status? Why not? The status gives tax breaks so those tax breaks might be taken away but surely not retrospectively!! That would go against a long-standing tenet of English law.
Furthermore the assets will be owned by a trust or some other legal "person" usually with an obligation to run a school. The assets were not "given" to the charity in the first place by the government so cannot surely be taken away.
This needs a serious legal challenge.
Moreover, what are the tax breaks? Schools don't make much of a profit on which to be taxed. VAT perhaps, but then the bulk of their costs - staff - don't charge VAT on their services anyway so there is relatively little to reclaim. Perhaps schools will (once the legal position is clarified) tell the government to stuff its charitable status and local state schools and charities will end up with less help not more!
SimonB, Hertfordshire, England
"They could allow state schools to use sports, arts or music facilities; they could let state school pupils attend their lessons" - is that a joke? Why on earth would you pay thousands of pounds a year for the facilities of a private school, when you could go to the local comp and use them for free? There is a repulsive assumption inherent in that ludicrous suggestion that money is all that separates the parents of children in the state and private sectors: I was on a two thirds bursary and a scholarship at a top private school, (stilll educating paupers, Sian Griffiths) and my mother struggled for years, going without everything, to pay the rest. If you choose the right school, there are plenty of bursaries available (for bright children) - if you aren't willing to cough up the rest, you have to make do with the state alternative. I can't stand this feeling of entitlement that pervades our society. You want it, you earn it.
Nick, London,
How typical of the champagne socialism of New Labour. Susi Leather should put her so-called principles where her mouth is and send her child to a state school instead of educating her privately while trying to clamp down on independent schools. Her hypocrisy is breathtaking.
Why should independent schools even have to try to cater for the flotsam and jetsam of state failure? The operative word is 'independent'.
But, as a wag put it at the time: 'There will always be grammar schools while Harold Wilson has children to attend them' and the same principle applies to New Labour and independent schools.
Ann Keith, Cambridge, uk
I expect Dame Suzi already knows that parents who choose to send their children to a private schools are paying twice for education as they are taxed on their income which is suppost to go to schools in the state sector. If she wants to penelise these parents who work hard in order to provide the best education for their children, she shoud consider giving them a tax break and take away the charitable status of these schools. She will then see how many more parents will leave the state sector in order to educate their children in the private sector. Not eveyone who send their child to a private shchool is rich but work hard and go without many other things in order to affored the already high fees.
Terry , Berkshire ,