why make the mice suffer , don't they suffer enough with everything we do to them ?
ashley, waterlooville, uk
Mice don't have a conscience with which to condemn themselves, so neurochemical imbalances will produce much less suffering in them, and their simple society, than what human mental illness can cause to patients, families & society. At the moment, humans are at the mercy of genetics, just like mice.
Fiona, Toowomba, Australia
I think its quite wrong to use an animal for scientific research, even a small mouse. how does anyone know that the results you get are the same as what would happen in humans. for example antibiotics kill Guinea Pigs, and luckily it wasn't tested on them, otherwise it would have never come into the market, and it would have caused epidemics to go on uncured.
Now i'm not dissing science, it has taught us a whole lot about how we live, and what we're doing to our planet, but the use of animals in trials for medicine and make-up and disease-understanding is not on, sure some DNA strands are similar, but they're not the same creature as humans, i'm sure that there are people out there willing to donate their live bodies for scientific research, all you gotta do is find them.
Animals are not beneath humans they are all on the same level, even cockroaches and ants and flies, i agree with animal rights activists on this topic, please stop the animal torture.
Lily, Devonport, Tasmania
It is said that humans are supposed to me the most civilised race on earth. I beg to differ. We are the only race that kill our own and ourselves. We also take sport in making other species suffer for what? Fun? "Progress"?
I think that genetic experiments like this show that the human race is no better than that of a dog! Senseless, barbaric torture on defenceless animals is something people should be ashamed of! Not something they can revel in under the illusion it is "putting one step forward in the understanding of a disease"!
Mice have feelings too! Do they not cry when they feel pain?! Shiver when they are cold?! Eat when they are hungry!? They might not know feelings like "love" but that still doesn't mean they're not aware what is going on and suffer because of it!
End this barbaric onslaught of innocent animals! If scientists want to experiment why not use themselves? They want to know what will happen if you tinker with this and that not the mice!!
Raven, Horden, England
I think what they are doing is disgusting and down right wrong! How would they like to be genetically altered to have a mental illness?! You hear and read about people with these illnesses and they all say the would not wish anything or anyone to suffer like they do! Why would "scientists" inflict this upon something so defenceless? I am appauled!!!!!
Robyn Chandler, Peterlee, England
This is absolutely disgusting. I suffer from a form of schizophrenia, and I would sacrifice my sanity for these animals. I would rather be crazy for the rest of my life then for animals to be infected with this tragic disease. I can't even believe that anyone thinks this a good solution.
Stephanie, Boston, United States
I still can't believe that they can live with themselfs after hurting animals, its sick! How can no body understand that animals are living things with feelings?
Bravo for everyone who commented against animal testing!
Tilly Baker, Kent, England!
You mean to tell us that these "brilliant"( ??) Frankenstein Scientist are JUST NOW researching mental illness. Nooo, I think they ran out of hideous painful experiments to inflict upon animals. The answers they claim will be realized from causing a poor creature to suffer are already well known, researched and documented. Using animals as "things" is the means to their paychecks, funded by our tax dollars. To the researchers: Leave the animals alone and go back to your cave and think up some more unnecessary outrageous way to cause animals pain. Or get a real job!
Zona, Oyster Bay, USA
Ya, I guess that does sound weird. But I don't see the progress they(the SCIEntist) keep on toting as the benifit from all these great experiments. It seems that as long as yopu can supress reshearch on the benifits of Mary Jane, but pour money down the magic pill theory all will be good in our rat race of a live.
Boogie, Ash Fork, AZ
scientists have been using mice in order to make progress in the medical field for yrs now, why not do the same to make advancements in the psych field? schizophrenia is one of the most, if not the most, deteriorating mental disorders and any research that can help in future prevention is extremeley important. if we can single out and manipulate genes responsible for schizophrenia, we may be able to end the suffering of many individuals in our population. there is a strong genetic component to schizophrenia, so i'm not sure i follow the above arguments regarding longer lifespans due to being more hygenic etc.
prakruti, chicago, il
Hey, Cindy from Las Vegas -- so I assume that means you reject all life-saving medication and surgeries that have resulted from animal testing? Think before you talk.
Daniel, NYC,
My response to Pat in Venice, CA.
Uhhh.....what?
Chris, Philadelphia, PA
Pat, you're so right. This is sick. Someone should give the researchers a mental illness and see how they like it. These are nature's innocents defiled. Have we completely lost the ability to identify with others outside our immediate family and social circle? I thought that was what made us human.
Jasmine, Victoria, Canada
I once saw a scitzo mouse. It recame that way after being caged too close to a radio tuned to political talk. The mouse eventually chewed off its own feet and died. Its owned has not advanced beyond nail biting, however, he does rant about 9-11 being an "inside job".
PS - If mankind is ever eliminated, it will be by forces greater than our own ability to create or avoid.
M, Austin, TX
The naysayers would be the first to sacrifice a mouse if it was their son or daughter affected
Raphael, Cold Lake, Canada
Now you need to breed a mentally ill cat to catch the mice, and a mentally ill dog to catch the cat .
Good you found the gene now find a way to remove it . You don't need more crazy mice .
Jim, Somersworth , U.S.A. / N.H.
If this helps fight the devastating illness, then why not use rats to combat this. All the animal freaks in the world need to realize that we are trying to make human life normal for people who otherwise would never have a chance.
If Pat has a better suggestion the tell us all. If not, then be quiet and let the researchers and scientists find a way to cure one of the most devastating mental illnesses known to man.
CD, San Diego, ca
Sorry Pat (from Venice, CA) ... humans ARE more important than mice. Not all living creatures are equal. Every time you wash your hands you are killing "innocent" living creatures with the soap. To live is to kill.
You claim that "all life is sacred" -- which presumably means that you viw ALL life (from bacteria through humans) as being equal. Do you ever wash your hands or take a shower? If so, you're killing thousands or millions of living organisms in the process. I assume you think it's ok to kill bacteria? Why so? Why is bacteria ok to kill, but mice are not? Isn't "all life sacred" to you?
Chris, Dayton, OH
How are the scientists controlling for environmental factors if both parents have the genetically modified DNA for schizophrenia and mood disorders (such as bipolar?)?
I think that mutant mice have limited use for modelling human illness other than showing scientists their power as god.
Ann Mere, Los Angeles, USA/CA
Is it DISC1 gene?
CopperKettle, Yekaterinburg, Russia
why make the mice suffer , don't they suffer enough with everything we do to them ?
ashley, waterlooville, uk
Mice don't have a conscience with which to condemn themselves, so neurochemical imbalances will produce much less suffering in them, and their simple society, than what human mental illness can cause to patients, families & society. At the moment, humans are at the mercy of genetics, just like mice.
Fiona, Toowomba, Australia
I think its quite wrong to use an animal for scientific research, even a small mouse. how does anyone know that the results you get are the same as what would happen in humans. for example antibiotics kill Guinea Pigs, and luckily it wasn't tested on them, otherwise it would have never come into the market, and it would have caused epidemics to go on uncured.
Now i'm not dissing science, it has taught us a whole lot about how we live, and what we're doing to our planet, but the use of animals in trials for medicine and make-up and disease-understanding is not on, sure some DNA strands are similar, but they're not the same creature as humans, i'm sure that there are people out there willing to donate their live bodies for scientific research, all you gotta do is find them.
Animals are not beneath humans they are all on the same level, even cockroaches and ants and flies, i agree with animal rights activists on this topic, please stop the animal torture.
Lily, Devonport, Tasmania
It is said that humans are supposed to me the most civilised race on earth. I beg to differ. We are the only race that kill our own and ourselves. We also take sport in making other species suffer for what? Fun? "Progress"?
I think that genetic experiments like this show that the human race is no better than that of a dog! Senseless, barbaric torture on defenceless animals is something people should be ashamed of! Not something they can revel in under the illusion it is "putting one step forward in the understanding of a disease"!
Mice have feelings too! Do they not cry when they feel pain?! Shiver when they are cold?! Eat when they are hungry!? They might not know feelings like "love" but that still doesn't mean they're not aware what is going on and suffer because of it!
End this barbaric onslaught of innocent animals! If scientists want to experiment why not use themselves? They want to know what will happen if you tinker with this and that not the mice!!
Raven, Horden, England
I think what they are doing is disgusting and down right wrong! How would they like to be genetically altered to have a mental illness?! You hear and read about people with these illnesses and they all say the would not wish anything or anyone to suffer like they do! Why would "scientists" inflict this upon something so defenceless? I am appauled!!!!!
Robyn Chandler, Peterlee, England
This is absolutely disgusting. I suffer from a form of schizophrenia, and I would sacrifice my sanity for these animals. I would rather be crazy for the rest of my life then for animals to be infected with this tragic disease. I can't even believe that anyone thinks this a good solution.
Stephanie, Boston, United States
I still can't believe that they can live with themselfs after hurting animals, its sick! How can no body understand that animals are living things with feelings?
Bravo for everyone who commented against animal testing!
Tilly Baker, Kent, England!
You mean to tell us that these "brilliant"( ??) Frankenstein Scientist are JUST NOW researching mental illness. Nooo, I think they ran out of hideous painful experiments to inflict upon animals. The answers they claim will be realized from causing a poor creature to suffer are already well known, researched and documented. Using animals as "things" is the means to their paychecks, funded by our tax dollars. To the researchers: Leave the animals alone and go back to your cave and think up some more unnecessary outrageous way to cause animals pain. Or get a real job!
Zona, Oyster Bay, USA
Ya, I guess that does sound weird. But I don't see the progress they(the SCIEntist) keep on toting as the benifit from all these great experiments. It seems that as long as yopu can supress reshearch on the benifits of Mary Jane, but pour money down the magic pill theory all will be good in our rat race of a live.
Boogie, Ash Fork, AZ
scientists have been using mice in order to make progress in the medical field for yrs now, why not do the same to make advancements in the psych field? schizophrenia is one of the most, if not the most, deteriorating mental disorders and any research that can help in future prevention is extremeley important. if we can single out and manipulate genes responsible for schizophrenia, we may be able to end the suffering of many individuals in our population. there is a strong genetic component to schizophrenia, so i'm not sure i follow the above arguments regarding longer lifespans due to being more hygenic etc.
prakruti, chicago, il
Hey, Cindy from Las Vegas -- so I assume that means you reject all life-saving medication and surgeries that have resulted from animal testing? Think before you talk.
Daniel, NYC,
My response to Pat in Venice, CA.
Uhhh.....what?
Chris, Philadelphia, PA
Pat, you're so right. This is sick. Someone should give the researchers a mental illness and see how they like it. These are nature's innocents defiled. Have we completely lost the ability to identify with others outside our immediate family and social circle? I thought that was what made us human.
Jasmine, Victoria, Canada
I once saw a scitzo mouse. It recame that way after being caged too close to a radio tuned to political talk. The mouse eventually chewed off its own feet and died. Its owned has not advanced beyond nail biting, however, he does rant about 9-11 being an "inside job".
PS - If mankind is ever eliminated, it will be by forces greater than our own ability to create or avoid.
M, Austin, TX
The naysayers would be the first to sacrifice a mouse if it was their son or daughter affected
Raphael, Cold Lake, Canada
Now you need to breed a mentally ill cat to catch the mice, and a mentally ill dog to catch the cat .
Good you found the gene now find a way to remove it . You don't need more crazy mice .
Jim, Somersworth , U.S.A. / N.H.
If this helps fight the devastating illness, then why not use rats to combat this. All the animal freaks in the world need to realize that we are trying to make human life normal for people who otherwise would never have a chance.
If Pat has a better suggestion the tell us all. If not, then be quiet and let the researchers and scientists find a way to cure one of the most devastating mental illnesses known to man.
CD, San Diego, ca
Sorry Pat (from Venice, CA) ... humans ARE more important than mice. Not all living creatures are equal. Every time you wash your hands you are killing "innocent" living creatures with the soap. To live is to kill.
You claim that "all life is sacred" -- which presumably means that you viw ALL life (from bacteria through humans) as being equal. Do you ever wash your hands or take a shower? If so, you're killing thousands or millions of living organisms in the process. I assume you think it's ok to kill bacteria? Why so? Why is bacteria ok to kill, but mice are not? Isn't "all life sacred" to you?
Chris, Dayton, OH
How are the scientists controlling for environmental factors if both parents have the genetically modified DNA for schizophrenia and mood disorders (such as bipolar?)?
I think that mutant mice have limited use for modelling human illness other than showing scientists their power as god.
Ann Mere, Los Angeles, USA/CA
Is it DISC1 gene?
CopperKettle, Yekaterinburg, Russia
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