Stuart MacDonald
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RANGERS are being unfairly victimised by the media, according to David Murray, the club’s chairman, who claims they are being made a scapegoat for Scotland’s sectarianism problem.
The tycoon said the issue attracts a disproportionate amount of attention and that Rangers are singled out for particular blame.
Murray said Dundee and Dundee United were examples of clubs whose fans trade sectarian abuse on websites which is never mentioned in the media.
His comments follow the ongoing row over the singing of the so-called Famine Song by Rangers supporters, which includes the line: “The famine’s over . . . why don’t you go home?”
The use of the song has been raised at government level in Scotland and Ireland and police have warned fans they risk arrest if they are caught singing it. Murray insisted Rangers have made strenuous efforts to tackle sectarianism, but added: “I think obesity and drugs, where people are losing their lives nearly every hour of every day, is a far greater issue.
“To point the finger on Rangers, I find is a bit soft when you can look at the website of any football club, [at] banners that are sold in any football ground, and they do not come under the same scrutiny.
“I was amazed to see what goes on between Dundee United and Dundee on the websites. In some of these websites it’s just as bad as Rangers and Celtic but because it’s not the west of Scotland it doesn’t get the same reviewing.”
Murray told shareholders at the Rangers AGM that he would be taking up the issue with Alex Salmond, the first minister. He urged supporters to police themselves at matches and stop “serving our head on a silver salver” to critics in the media.
Rangers have been scarred by the sectarian problem for years and the club was fined £13,300 by Uefa for “discriminatory chanting” at both legs of a Champions League tie against Villarreal in 2006.
The behaviour of their supporters at the Uefa Cup Final in May was also widely condemned after they fought running battles with police.
Last week, Scottish football’s governing body said they would consider deducting points from Rangers unless their fans ceased indulging in discriminatory chants such as the Famine Song.
George Peat, the Scottish Football Association president, said: “If the situation doesn’t improve then all we could do is threaten to deduct points.”
Last year, Rangers launched another high-profile campaign against sectarianism, Follow With Pride, to build on the work they previously undertook with their Pride Over Prejudice initiative.
Jack McConnell, the former first minister, has attacked the Scottish government for failing to tackle sectarianism. However, the SNP insists it is working on measures, including providing funding for anti-bigotry groups such as Nil By Mouth.
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how many people ares stabbed and killed in dundee after a derby? compare that to the mindless killings perpetrated in the name of both the old firm after each match. im sure Murray is clever enough to realise hes talking nonsense about dundees clubs and its the sectarianism thats causing deaths.
brian , RENFREW,
Joint statement from the Dundee clubs in response to Murray: "... we are appalled at the attempt to deflect criticism by manufacturing a situation which simply does not exist between the two clubs...This attempt to tarnish the good name of the city and its two senior football clubs is outrageous."
DC Thompson, Dundee, Scotland
The problem with both old firm clubs is that they just pay lip service to doing something about the bigots who support them.
Murray loves to play the victim, except when crucial refereeing decisions go Rangers way. He's pathetic.
Stop whining Murray. Get rid of the flags & ban the songs.
Mike, Perth,
Ridiculous drivel from the man who's club support have been exposed as bigoted time and again. No tiny minority here - its sung with gusto by thousands and, if anything, has become more popular since the official condemnations. No more 'old firm' bad as each other nonsense please, we aren't the same
Chris, Carmarthen, Wales
How dare David Murray spout such rubbish comments, what he fails to understand is that although their is a rivalary between the 2 clubs the supporters actually socalise with each other away from the football grounds and some families have both sets of supporters in their family.
lisa, dundee, scotland
When will David Murray actually condemn "The famine song" as plain wrong, rather than play the victim card? SRTRC has condemned it as racist, why doesn't he join them rather than say, "don't sing it in case you get arrested"?
Until Rangers do that the problem will remain
Paul, Luton, UK
The article is about sectarianism in Scottish football. Murry is commenting on it by bringing Dundee and Dundee United into the equation using us (I'm a United fan) as an example of how sectarianism is more widespread than just at Rangers. Unfortunately, he's chosen his targets inadvisedly.
Mark, Dundee, Scotland
While David Murray doesn't accuse dundee/utd fans of sectarainism, his comment that what goes on is just as bad is dodging the issue. The issue is the sectarianism chants not just the usual abuse . No one cares that the old firm dont like each other its the SECTARIAN chants are the issue Mr Murray!
Stewart, Dundee,
Have any of the previous respondents actually read the piece?
Maybe one of them could point out where Sir David mentions sectarianism in relation to the Dundee clubs?
iain, gourok,
It's worth bearing in mind that Sir David Murray is not actually quoted using the word "sectarian" about fans of the Dundee clubs.
Martin Neilson, Falkirk,
I am very proud that supporters of both clubs in Dundee have not fallen into the cesspit of sectarianism. Yes there is strong football rivalry but no one asks nor cares what religion the other fan has. Mr Murray's comments are a disgrace.
Mr Paul Strachan, Dundee, Scotland
Charles Mintlaw, read again -
"Murray said Dundee and Dundee United were examples of clubs whose fans trade sectarian abuse on websites which is never mentioned in the media."
Quite simply factually incorrect. No wonder the English wanted nothing to do with the OF. Laughable stuff from Murray.....
Niall, Coleraine, N. Ireland.
charles london
Murray said Dundee and Dundee United were examples of clubs whose fans trade sectarian abuse on websites which is never mentioned in the media.
think you should read it agai but without your blue tinted specs on
b.clark, dundee,
Lost all respect for David Murray who's comments do him no credit. Sort out your own house first and stop trying to deflect the problem. I for one am sick about hearing how its not true Rangers fans that cause trouble / sing sectarian songs etc BUT they all seem to manage to get tickets !
Graham, Edinburgh, mid lothian
Murray makes no mention of sectarianism between the two Dundee clubs, purely the dislike they have for each other mirroring that of the Old Firm. The press or the fans of the Dundee clubs have failed to note this. Their outrage is pityful.
Charles Mintlaw, London, UK
Murray knows sectarianism makes Rangers unsellable, so he's desparately trying to make it a generic Scottish problem affecting Celtic, and now even the Dundee clubs, which is frankly ridiculous. The reality is that it is intrinsic and specific to Rangers.
Harry, London, England
Can Murray back these claims up about both Dundee clubs as i can not find any proof and find this insulting that he (Murray) can make such comments.
P Sinclair, dundee, scotland
oh mr murray you really don't have a clue do you?,deflect all your city;s sectarianism over to dundee...your head really is buried in the sand.as someone else posted please state the link that you alledge you read,i wont hold my breath though !!!!!!!!!!over to you mr murray
graeme, dundee,
How dare Murray bismirch the good names of both clubs in this way. Anyone can see he is trying to deflect from his own problems at Ibrox but this is surely slander and I hope both clubs legal teams will be dealing with this.
John, St Andrews,
As a Dundee fan for over 30 years, Mr Murray's disgraceful allegations have no basis in fact.
Supporters of both Dundee teams care only about football, as the joint statement from our boards states. Religion has no place in sport and Dundee and United fans demonstrate this.
David, Dundee,
Mr Murray is correct ! When the hack pack start to realise that rangers supporters get abused most weeks by the use of the hun word but nothing gets sais. Celtic supporters glorify in songs about catholic murder gangs [IRA] yet nothing is done or said! So well done Mr Murray.
james, Dunfermline, Scotland
as another poster on various Dundee/DundeeUnited i cannot recount any sectarian bile as produced by the OF fans -indeed some of the sites i go on dont have any Rangers or Celtic boards because of this very problem - he needs to look closer to home i think
steven, Brechin, Scotland
You've got to be joking here how can this paper print such drivel about both Dundee clubs. As a Dundee fan I go to games with both Catholics and Protestants so David please tell me where the sectarianism exists. The Sectarian bigotry is a West coast/Old firm problem pls don't try to deflect this.
DD, Southampton, Bermuda
I hope both Dundee and Dundee Unitied will be challenging Mr Murray on his outrageous slur on supporters of both clubs. I believe Dundee may have had a problem with this in the 70s, but not for a very very long time.
Jim Gellatly, Glasgow, Scotland
I would refer Murray to the Dundee clubs' joint statement today. I've been over 30 yrs a United fan, lost count of the number of derbies I've attended. Never once heard a sectarian insult between the two sets of fans.
Murray is plain ignorant and trying to deflect from his own failures at RFC.
chris, edinburgh,
As a frequent poster on Dundee / Dundee United websites could Mr Murray please direct me to Dundonian sectarian posts? I have obviously missed them. Both Dundee teams have fans of ALL denominations who limit their abuse purely to football matters.
Eric, Rio de Janeiro, Brasil
Why on earth would you want the UK flag banned from being flown in the UK?
The green, white and orange is not the flag of a constituent country of the UK and could be banned but should it be? I rather think not. Just stay in France, Graeme, your small and obviously blinkered mind is not welcome.
James, Edinburgh, Scotland
There can't be too much media spotlight on the Old Firm. These are deeply insincere organisations who always do far too little far too late in relation to sectarianism. A total ban on the Union Jack and the Tricolour in all football grounds would show serious intent... but don't hold your breath.
Graeme, Dinan, France