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The men who pulled up in three white pickup trucks were looking for Patson Chipiro, head of the Zimbabwean opposition party in Mhondoro district. His wife, Dadirai, told them he was in Harare but would be back later in the day, and the men departed.
An hour later they were back. They grabbed Mrs Chipiro and chopped off one of her hands and both her feet. Then they threw her into her hut, locked the door and threw a petrol bomb through the window.
The killing last Friday – one of the most grotesque atrocities committed by Robert Mugabe’s regime since independence in 1980 – was carried out on a wave of worsening brutality before the run-off presidential elections in just over two weeks. It echoed the activities of Foday Sankoh, the rebel leader in the Sierra Leone civil war that ended in 2002, whose trade-mark was to chop off hands and feet.
Mrs Chipiro, 45, a former pre-school teacher, was the second wife of a junior official of the Movement for Democratic Change (MDC) burnt alive last Friday by Zanu (PF) militiamen. Pamela Pasvani, the 21-year-old pregnant wife of a local councillor in Harare, did not suffer mutilation but died later of her burns; his six-year-old son perished in the flames.
Yesterday about 70 local MDC supporters gathered in Mr Chipiro’s small yard in Mhondoro, 90 miles south of Harare, to protect him. Inside the hut where his wife of 29 years died, women sang softly to a subdued drum beat next to the cheap wooden coffin. The thatched roof had been destroyed in the fire so they sat under the open sky. The lid could not be closed because Mrs Chipiro’s outstretched arm had burnt rigid. Her charred hand was found as women swept the hut.
Mr Chipiro, 51, a small, determined man, arrived from Harare on Friday afternoon to find his three brick huts ablaze. “I was trying to put the fire out,” he said. “I thought my wife was hiding in the bushes.”
His four-year-old nephew, Admire, heard him calling her. “He ran to me. He said, ‘Auntie has been beaten and they threw her in the fire’.”
Bright Matonga, the Deputy Information Minister and the MP for the area, lives just over a mile away. There is also a Zanu (PF) youth militia camp near by. Mr Matonga routinely blames the violence – in which nearly 70 people have died and 25,000 have been left homeless since the elections on March 29 – on Britain and the United States. He claims that they pay the MDC to put on Zanu party regalia and attack Mr Mugabe’s opponents.
When Mr Chipiro went to the police, they refused to give him an official crime incident report. They fetched the body at about 10pm, he said. A post-mortem examination was carried out at St Michael’s Catholic mission hospital. At first police gave Mr Chipiro a report that left out the causes of death. An officer intervened and produced an authentic report.
The report said that seven men assaulted Mrs Chipiro “before dragging her in one of the houses and set all three houses on fire”. It said that the body showed “signs of assault since all hands and legs were broken”. The doctor who carried out the post-mortem described the cause of death as haemorrhaging and severe burns. “These youths are taught cruelty,” Mr Chipiro said. “They get used to murdering. They enjoy murdering. They are doing it for money.”
He said that thugs returned for him two nights ago but fled when they saw his supporters. “I am very frightened,” he said. “They want to kill me. But I have no alternative. My presence here as a leader is very important. If I leave, everyone else will leave. I intend to fight the battle, from here.”
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People are dying from starvation, dehydration and disease not to mention sickening torture and murder all over the world. Will anything be done about it? NO. If there is no advantage to be gained then nobody gets involved. As wrong and sick as it may seem this is probably how it will go on forever.
Mhairi, Edinburgh, Scotland
We as Europeans are a strong party. If our leaders are not capable of leading us why dont the people rise up and help the people who need us most. then we will find a leader capable of leading from the front. I vote that we should start a network calling for volunteers to work against Mugabe. HELP.
Martin, Killinchy, Northern Ireland
So black people really are still second class inhabitants of our planet--unless of course we have a little collection or sing song to feed a few-but when someone such as Mrs Chipiro is burned to death-silence-who needs abusive plantation owners-when 'thief mugabe still breathes''and his henchmen to
s willis, swansea, wales
Jacob Freeze- small tangential point- Ethiopia was never a colony, it is one of the oldest countries on earth and maintained its independence during the European division of Africa.
Ivan, Dublin, Ireland
Now if there was more of an oil interest there...
Horrific news.
Tom Hart, Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
Its really mindboggling Mugabe can go to such extremes while the world looks on! I m not sure the world definition of humanitarian crisis but surely something has got to be done before Friday-the election date!
absolom mukonyo, Gaborone, Botswana
The increasingly appalling situation in Zimbabwe culminating in the MDC being forced out of an election they should have easily won, must be the point of no return. The global community cannot justify sitting on its hands any longer. The US/UK should invade and put Mugabe on trial for mass murder.
Adam W, York, UK
Remember the bad old days when an evil colonial empire ruled Zimbabwe?
"Auntie has been beaten and they threw her in the fire."
Luckily most of the former colonies in Africa are full of peace and prosperity, like...
Zaire? Uganda? The Sudan? Somalia? Ethiopia? Rwanda? Angola?
Where?
Jacob Freeze, Malibu, California, USA
please can someone help me about this issue,,,ZIMBABWE.is it because there is no oil no.one is offering help,where is Bush where is Brown?please people are dying is anyone seeing wat i am seeing? people are being tortured they are dying but noone is doing anything about it
tariro, london, zimbabwe
All of you experts who say it was 'oil' that led to the US/UK/Aus/others to go into Iraq are simplistic. Oil may be of interest, but Iraq had violated many UN Security Council resolutions and was in violation of '91 cease fire terms. It was (incorrectly) about security, not oil. Read more folks.
C Bozner, London,
Lesago, I completely agree.
The fact that there is no oil in Zimbabwe is also why nobody from the UN has bothered to go in and help.
Leah, Dunedin, New Zealand
Anglela:the difference is that in Iraq the US army went in at the same time as the US oil companies.There was a motive there that was not purely humanitarian. In this case, there is no real benefit for US.No oil companies to exploit the land. So NO, it's not quite the same thing as going into Iraq.
Lesego, Francistown, Botswana
One more thing...no one FORCED America into Iraq. Funny how no one here has mentioned that they CHOSE to go in to get rid of "weapons of mass destruction" (haha)...oh, and oil. So stop boo-hoo-ing about being in Iraq. Bush really really wanted to get in there. He had a stake in the oil company.
Lesego, Francistown, Botswana
Every 2nd person I meet in Botswana is Zimbabwean. They are one of the most skilled peoples in Africa and that man has turned them into refugees and beggars in neighbouring countries. They cannot get jobs here unless they have papers so many resort to crime. And pay the price.
Lesego, Francistown, Botswana
It is time the people stood up for what they wanted, both internationally and nationally. It is time, for this country to listen to its people, and i believe they are saying force Mugabi from power, by any means nessecary. We are seeing another Idi Amin rise in Zimbabwe, and he's had power too long!
Peter, Bridgwater, UK
Death is a permanent feature of life.
Mr Mugabe,like every dictator before him will ultimatly die,even if its of old age.
The country will then have chance to change but only if the majority wish it and do something about it.
Evolution takes time and Zimbabwe has a long,long way to go to evolve
Michael W, Telford, UK
Bill Goldschein, nyc, usa
The mighty US should stay away. Why, because in the dark days many Africans forcibly became white slaves in America. You can redeem the past with real economic aid and not in the form of soldiers.
It is also not a European matter. Their colonial days are over.
Peace
Lim , Johor Bahru, Malaysia
The West can't just invade Zimbabwe even if countries wish to do so. Look at all the African countries whom support Mugabe. How do we not know by invading Zimbabwe other countries in Africa wouldn't join to support him. One could end up fighting more than Mugabe and his militia.
Tina, Chester, UK
I thank God I was born a westerner in a Democratic Society. God bless Western Culture!
Luis, westchester, USA
Double standards of the West and Africa - notably SA - are breathtaking in their depravity. There would have been sanctions and God knows what had this been whites doing it to blacks. It is actually racism: black leaders expect blacks to do this sort of thing to their fellows, and don't condemn it
Rod Baker, Cape Town, South Africa
Mr Chipiro, you are a brave, stedfast and righteous man. Zimbabwe would be entirely lost without men like you. I salute you in your grief.
Philippa, London,
SAD.
but true.
Africa may be gone.
The mighty US has never paid much mind to Africans - it is after all not our problem but Europe's.
Bill Goldschein, nyc, usa
Independence comes at a price. Those who are not prepared to deal with it, shouldn't be independent.. It is very typical of African countries to want all the the advantages and glory of being a free nation without implementing and adhering to the principles that encapsulate a free nation.
Cassie, Bellevue, USA
The USA is poor at thinking through consequences, but we still have a gag reflex that keeps from sitting on our hands forever. Mugabe's days will not end without US or British armed support - but that can only come if first voters see to it that Mugabe fails in the coming election.
TJ Meagher, San Francisco, USA
Can't Europe or the Arab world lift a finger to help?
JG Bolton, Tucson, USA
Hebdon, london, England
Hv u not read that it was "oil", not Saddam nor WMD that US/UK invaded Iraq. Tell us, when will peace return to Iraq? And when will your forces leave this poor & tragic country? If d intention was to rid Saddam u shld have left few years back. Intention or mistake???
Lim , Johor Bahru, Malaysia
This story is indeed chilly and inhumane. But what about Mr.Bright Matonga's claim that MDC imposters carried out d ugly deed to discredit the Zanu party of Mr.Mugabe? Who can we believe. It is chaotic. Best d West allow the Zimbabweans sort it out themselves.
Peace to the world.
140608
Lim , Johor Bahru, Malaysia
See what happens when you remove the judgement of the decent in the name of sovereignty ,anything goes, when we hide behind multicultural tolerance or political correctness etc, what we really say is I dont care about my neighbor.
Lets stand up against this pure evil, if we don't what are we?
Nick LeGuern, Modesto , USA
jules, leicester, uk
Arrogant or innocent talking. Yes, the world's only superpower can do that to Zimbabwe. Instant democracy with a puppet MDC government. But the US would need to stay engaged until God knows when, fighting a guerrilla war. Is the US ready for more Vietnam type of wars?
Lim , Johor Bahru, Malaysia
Why hasn't Nelson Mandela denounced this man and his actions???
Jackie Didier, New York City, United States
There is a country to stop this kind of barbarism but every time we do the rest of the world howls, what will the rest of the world do when the US finally says it isn't worth it?
Alvin, Orange, USA
Let the rest of the world police evil. Hey here is an idea, let the Afican nations police their own.
Geroge Washington, Tucson Arizona, USA
Every single individual in every single nation that has the power to do anything at all about this situation should hang their heads in shame and weep.
Colin R, Chester,
Mugabe makes a mockery of the "good" work that was done to remove Saddam Insane from power! How is Mugabe any different to Saddam? besides the fact that he may be worse? reason why people want the states and UK to do something is because they are the only nations who are able to make a difference
hebdon, london, England
This sort of atrocity was one of the reasons some supported the invasion of Iraq. But the atrocities continue in Iraq. This atrocity affects us all - it pollutes the soul and makes us all sad to be alive in such a vicious and hopeless world. The poor woman. Please print everyone's comment.
Pen, Montpellier, France
"and gordon brown & the rest of the civilised world does what?"
They rebuke Israel for bombing arab terrorists that shoot missiles from residential areas in Gaza; and then Bush visits usto persude us to give away more lands so the terrorists then have more room from which to shoot their missiles.
Avraham Makeler, Rehovot, Israel
The US only takes the moral high ground if there are millions of dollars worth of reason. Bob's little racket is no concern of theirs. They have bigger fish to fry. They could take zimbabwe with a ten minute firefight, open up a can of instant democracy and install some puppet regime within an hour.
jules, leicester, uk
It is not the perogative of the United States or the UK to intervene in this matter. The African nations were granted independence under the prenumbra of the African Union, if Zimbabwe is in such crisis then the sovereign states under the UN should deal with it. Their inaction is criminal neglect.
Ashad ul-Bashir, Dearbourne, MI, US
Mugabe is a horrible person. People on here wonder why the US does not do something. 1st it is not our problem. 2nd soon as we do something we are horrible. Saddam killed hundreds of thousands, and look how the world press covers Iraq. Europe where are you? Africa is your neighbor.
Scott, Indianapolis,
Let's not forget that as evil and stupid as Mugabe is, he does have millions and millions of supporters who are complicit in this situation. Ultimately the people got exactly the (bad) government they voted for. Otherwise he would have been voted out by a landslide.
Vince Moss, Omaha, USA
I certainly hope that all of you clamouring for the US to invade Zimbabwe also supported the invasion of Iraq, on both moral grounds and for compelling reasons of national interest.
Rick Wodz, Montreal, Canada
At least the US and other Western nations denouce Mugabe. Nelson Madela won't, to his great shame, and the feckless UN invites him to speak on the subject of famine--a subject on which Mugabe is an expert at least, being personally responsible for so many deaths by famine himself.
Rick Wodz, Montreal, Canada
can we afford to intervene? I dont think we can, can we?
samarius, Leeds,
There's no connection to Islamic terrorism,therefore it is not in the US self interest to intervene.
The UN has no obligation to intervene, as this is happening within one country. Furthermore, the UN has never proven itself successful in any endeavor, especially in Sub-Saharan Africa.
Jacob, Oxford, USA
I am completely disgusted that no one country in the EU/Africa has done anything about this yet. We were quick to ask for mining rights back in the 1800s, but now theres nothing left worth mining. It makes me sick!
Mugabe's forces have murdered and raped more innocent people than Sadam ever did...
Keith Wilson, St Albans, UK
What on earth is the U.N. for if it doesn't have the courage to intervene in a case such as this. Send in an African U.N. force to restore order and guarantee free elections. There is no other way.
Philip J.C. Panter, Mirano (Venezia), Italy.
heart wrenching, terrifying, disgusting. If these butchers are paid to kill, then i think we need to find some incentive that encourages them not to kill. And as to Rome - unforgivable- a true example of dining with the devil.
sarah, charente, france
The west won't intervene with Mugabe....there is no benefit for them to. There is nothing to gain from liberating Zimbabwe...no oil!
Johnny, Manchester, UK
This is yet another African problem which only they can resolve. The rest of the World would be accused of racism otherwise! (If only Mugabe were white we could go in and arrest him!) Haven't heard the other African Countries complaining much, if at all................I wonder why??!!
Pedro Tam, London, UK
I think Mugabe deserves to go the same way Sadam Hussein did.There is noway an old demented man ,like Mugabe, should be allowed to slaughter civilians who have had enough of him.
Patrick Musami, London, UK
There are many forms of cancer, that if not cut out will destroy a body. Would you not have it removed to restore your health and life? Ofcourse you would. There is a cancer in among humanity and when it reveals itself, should it not also be cut out for the good of mankind? Remove it!
shontonga, Sacramento, U S of A
You should listen to yourselves... read what you are saying. A mother, a wife died in the most brutal manor one could possibly imagine, just to rig an election to change the power of the government. We have an obligation to make this right, and set a president. No one should have her end. No one.
Hunter , Little River,
Where is the UN? Oh, I forgot, they are meeting about Israel and trying to find more ways to pass resolutions against another Democratic nation. Deas from NYC is correct, if any perceived white nation interferes, then all hell will break loose. Condemnations from around the world will be heard.
Brad Lawrence, Pleasanton, United States
Before he got in in 1980, cutting lips off and burning people alive was Mugabe's trademark. Not much has changed.The west thought he was a darling in 1980, but now they are seeing him as we have known him all along.
David Ashton, Bathurst, Australia
The US will not go on for a war in Zim, because there is no hidden gains. Zim. is neither a place of stratergic importance nor rich with natural resources. US policy makers are not always stupids
Saral, Coimbatore, India
Diplomacy and political charades will do nothing for this country and others on the Continent. Africa has a history of blood thirsty dictators and "kings" stretching thousands of years. All we are left with is earnest prayer that God will intervene. He is their only hope. My country of birth....
Donna, Springfield, Missouri, USA, USA
Events in Zim become more horrible by the day. Mugabe needs to be taken out.
However....if the US or the UK do it, we'll never hear the end of "evil white people" colonizing Africa. This is something Africans have to do.
Are ALL members of the Zim ruling class such cowards?
Deas, NYC, US
The world like to have it both ways when it comes to asking America and the UN to intervene. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.. The truth is, the best solution is to assassinate Mugabe, and then move in quickly to change the regime. We should rethink the ban on assassinations.
Roger W., Seattle, WA, USA
Rwanda, Sudan, Sierra Leone, Zimbabwe etc - why does this continent enjoy tearing itself to pieces so much, and why is the rest of the world so content to watch it do so?
Thom, Auckland,
Welcome to the United States, 100 years from now. Really -- you think I'm kidding !! I am not. Look at the events and attitudes that led up to this regime. The U.S. is heading down the same path. Don't worry, Britain -- your country will not resemble Zimbabwe. It will resemble Sudan.
Mitch, Columbus,
I have actually been to Zimbabwe! Regardless of what people think America should do, there is a huge problem there. Zimbabwe used to be considered the "breadbasket" of Africa, since it actually exported food to other African nations. Now the people can hardly pay for the little food they get!
Shelly, Jefferson City, USA
To Julie in London: Why should the US and UK rescue the world? Why does everyone think we have to save the world? I'm sorry to say but there are places that will never be saved no matter what we do. We also have to take care of our own people. We get blamed if we help and we get blamed if we don't
Tina Hunt, Timberlake, NC, USA
Mugabe ordered arms from China to be used against his own people. The law in South Africa said it wasn't legal for those weapons to cross South African soil. The S.A. government said it was and they wouldn't stop the shipment to Zim. The people said no, not here and stopped that shipment from S.A.
Stephen, Tomball,
This is in NO way a task for the US to take on. This is a job for the UN. The US doesn't have the compassion necessary to handle such a complex problem and would likely do more harm than good. "Kill them all and let God sort them out" is not a solution to all the worlds problems. Arrest Mugabe NOW!
Boris Kafka, Bethesda, USA
If only we could arrange to have some of these people move here, we could have the benefit of a multi-cultural experience.
I can't wait!
Harry Bergeron, Great Grimsby,
I guess we used up all of the oil that was in France when we invaded during WWII, wait there wasn't any there! Possibly we used up all of the oil we got when we moved to Germany? Nope none there either! Well Korean had some surely? what about all of that Balkan oil? You people need to get a grip.
Ted B, NJ, USA
And Zimbabwe is a member of the U.N. because of why????? Just goes to prove that the U.N. has been polluted by regimes such as this one, which is an abomination. Poor woman. Poor people of Zimbabwe. My heart goes out to both her family and the people of Zimbabwe.
Nancy, Sydney, Australia
We must respect all cultures. All cultures are equal.
Must we respect all cultures? Are all cultures equal?
Syd, Grand Blanc, U.S.A.
Another black leader on the Dark Continent shepherding his sheep to slaughter. Can't wait for Obama to take over. Australia here I come.
Ron, Winston-Salem, NC
At the end of the day, all "opinions" aside, our fellow human sister was brutally murdered by her fellow man.
Maria, Birmingham, USA
Where was the world outcry when Mugabe was conducting the same atrocities against the White farmers to drive them off their land? He turned productive farms over to his cronies and supporters and we have seen how well that has worked out for Zimbabwe. The US doesn't need to take the lead here.
Ron, Los Anglese, USA
Hey Igor when was the last time Slovenia liberated anyone! Did you happen to notice the millions of smiling Iraqis voting in the last election with their purple thumbs held high? There's going to be another one this October why don't you give it a watch and learn something for once.
Mike O'Brien, Seattle, USA
All the bleeding heart liberals were so sure that if they ended apartheid, all of the Africans would be enjoying an idlyic world of peace, harmony and plenty. Is this what they want for America too? Is this the better life under dictatorial rule? First thing after apartheid was to disarm them.
Bill, Davis, USA
That's really awful and a lot of awful things happen in the world but the United States should not be intervening anywhere in the world unless this country is threatened. Not our business. On the other hand economic sanctions and restrictions are appropriate.
Mark, Raleigh, USA
Why are you Americans so defensive about Iraq? The problem with world hating your troops in Iraq is lies you told us. You didn't mention anything about liberating Iraqis. This was just "collateral damage" to you.
Igor, Ljubljana, Slovenia
As a zimbabwean, my heart aches for those who are tortured and killed by the Robert Mugabe's so called thugs. I spoke with a family member who lives in Zimbabwe, and she told me that these young-black men, mostly un-employed are paid by the Mugabe regime to kill those who do not align with his part
Mary clevea;nd, bronx, USA
We need the rest of the World to step up as well... U.S.A can not be the world protector AND we should not be.
JP, NC, USA
Please do not invite the US to this party. We're still hung over from SE Asia and the Balkans; continuing to embibe in Iraq; and gearing up for festivities in Iran. Our social calendar is full for the next couple of generations.
Party on without us.
Victoria, Belleview, USA
I wonder of Obama wants to sit down and play footsie with Mugabe, as well? He is no different in his ruthlessness as the other ones he has proposed to discussions with if (pray to God not) he is elected.
David Berry, Johnson City, USA
Should we intervene and quell the violence? YES! What will happen if we do? Bleeding heart liberals (the press included) will becry the violence against the poor teen fighters (Mugabes hired thugs) that get killed by the rescueing troops. Check out press stories on Vietnam, Iraq, Somalia...
Rich, Tampa, USA
Maybe we should sit down with Bobby Mugabe and have some "Tough Negotiations" without preconditions with him.
Caleb, Kansas City, USA
The Zimbabwe goverment is the villian here. I am sick and tired of the world blaming the U.S.. If we don't go in and crush the goverment we are blamed for not doing anything. If we do go in and stop the torture and oppression, we are sticking our nose where it does not belong.
Tracy, Seattle, U.S.
Bush? You want Bush to intervene? Yet, so many liberals want the US out of Iraq where there also was mass killing and torture before the coalition gave the Iraqi's a chance at freedom and democracy. So it turns out that millions of innocent people die because of elite liberals. Yes, disband the UN!
Michael, Stamford, CT, USA
Mugabe is as much a criminal as any of the defendants tried in the Hague or Rwanda. Yet he was able to turn up with impunity at an international conference and permitted to harangue those present with nonsense. Where were all those protesters who think George Bush ought to be in court.
R Bord, Zurich, Switzerland
We get stick when we intervene, and we get stick when we don't.
What's Tabo Mbeke doing to help his neighbours?
While everyone points fingers at those who really cannot do anything to intervene, spare a thought for Patson Chipiro and others like him. and say a prayer for his poor wife.
Steveh, London, UK
Yup.
No Oil here in Zimbabwe, no profits to be gained.
Pass problem to un or some one else.
What about humanity?
What about western bussiness with interests in Zimbabe
its not fair to let these people suffer. Revolution, what with sticks and stones against guns?
Xain, Watford, UK
I agree with Jim in Salt Lake City. If the US or UK intervene, the cry of Colonialism will rise up all over Africa. But something must be done. Mbeki won't do it perhaps beacause he's afraid, so someone else will have to. There's no easy solution to this one.
Sarah, Ottawa, ON, Canada
Whilst the UN tuts tuts the carnage in Zimbabwe continues. The UN welcomes Mugabe in Rome at a food conference! Stop this fabulously expensive farce now and disband the UN - PLEASE. While the UN talks endlessly, people die & Mugabe gets fatter. Burma & Zimbabwe are the last straw. Enough is enough.
David Hayne, Melbourne, Australia
I can't believe this is happening and the UK and the US are not doing anything? What is going on?
Revolution is not a good thing when such brutality is enforced. Try telling Mrs Chipiro, her life is worth just as much as any or yours or mine.
Julie Nicholson, London, UK
Bush, Brown, Rudd, Mbeki, Medvedev, and all of your colleagues.
Do something!
Marc, Antrim,
I think what is happening in Zimbabwe is cruel and unjust. It is time that the world realises that Africa is not a "dump no care country". The worlds economy runs off of the natural resources that Africa provides with blood sweat and tears. It is time that the world end Mugabe's rein.
Johann Hendry, Johannesburg, South Africa
I just hope the people who invited Bob to Rome enjoyed their dinners with him and recognise from this story that, yes, including him did make a difference. He now knows that he can do anything he wants - the UN still love him.
James, glasgow. ,
Why is the world standing by and letting Mugabe do this?
WHY?
Vanessa Richardson, London, UK
Wow! Just wait for Zimbabwe to strike oil and America will come running with another self-righteous "intervention" like Iraq. The situation in Zim is far worse than people think. But the nation will just deal with it's own issues.
Mwangi, Nairobi,
Why should the US care about the fate of poor blacks? It has millions of its own, for which it cares nothing. War is hugely expensive, and fought for profit or for political advantage.
The USA supported the Iraq and Saudi dictators, and use terror for their own ends. But poor blacks? Er..no.
iain, bedford, uk
Talk is cheap and it is too easy to blame others. We are all responsible. We all fail by inaction. Politicians, the US, SA all need to be pushed by us to do the right thing. Stop blaming and start pushing your country to do the right thing.
Stewart, Round Lake, NY, USA
Josh of London, what about the Royal Marines? Before you criticize the United States for not invading Zimbabwe, let your Queen announce how many battalions she will contribute to the operation. There are many regimes that need changing around the world. Wish we could do them all, but we can't.
Donald Sensing, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA
Why do we allow this tyrant to exist, we seem happy to go in to any country the USA tell us to in the name of DEMOCRACY, what happened to Briton having it's own mind Mr Brown!! Expel Zimbabwe from the U.N. then send the forces in, once it's settled re unite them. THEY CAN NOT DEFEND THEMSELVES.
Frank, Canterbury, England
Long live the memory of Rhodesia and Ian Smith!
Rob Ferguson, Lancaster, California, USA
Why is that the US and UK must do everything? Both countries get crticized regardless of the outcome. Let's see. We were attacked (as was the UK) which explains Afghan. The Iraqis were persecuted for decades and we freed them (still waiting on that oil we're after). Anyone want to help or just talk.
John, Fairfax, USA
And African nations remain silent. And Mugabe blames white colonialists for Zimbabwe's woes.
Richard, Melbourne, australia
Let Gordon Brown sleep, rather try to wake up Comrade mute Mbeki (UK and USA can at least put pressure on SA)
Mbeki tell us "There is no crisis in Zimbabwe", he then flies up there and gives him a warm embrace
anna, Johannesburg, South Africa
This man Mugabe is meant to be an educated man-- a teacher. They say you can take an African out of Africa- but you will never take Africa out of the African. How many other African leaders have cold shouldered Mugabe--NONE!!
Mugabe must have bank accounts and property here- impound the lot.
Mrs Maggie Snook, Wareham, Dorset uk
I am disgusted by the atrocities happening in Africa but I gaurantee if America stepped in the world scream bloody murder and demand a time table for withdrawal. It is too tribal over there with warlords not someone you can reason with. They need help for sure, but not American soldiers.
Jim, salt lake city, USA
There are many foolish comments here condemning by degree the US , GB , United Nations , Europe etc.
The real culprits are the African nations themselves , especially South Africa , where they sanction no outside 'interference' in their states at all. This ensures they protect the status quo
john rigby, kenilworth, uk
I seem to recall cries for something to be done about Saddam's brutality. As usual it was left to the US and Britain to take action. We have since been widely condemned for it. Now there are cries for us to take action in Zimbabwe. The world's full of hypocrites.
Keith Watson, Middlesbrough, England
'Africa,oh mother Africa how I weep for your children scorned by the world, hated by themselves seeking refuge and finding none'.
Bob Nester Marley would be turning in his grave with all these atrocities been done in Africa, 'would the system make you kill your brother man,no dread no'. Big shame
Damon Deville, London, U.K
As Einstein quite rightly stated, "Nationalism is an infantile sickness. It is the measles of the human race". All those who describe these atrocities as only Zimbabwe's problem are wrong. We are all human, all one in the same. This needs to be ended by those of us who have the capacity to do so.
David, Manchester, UK
We are in Afghanistan fighting, as the Russians were, we are also in Iraq fighting Bush's war. Zimbabwi (Rhodesia) was once a colony of ours, and we leave it to rot in the hands of this vile tyrant, except for 'words'
marshfield, Salisbury , UK
he is pure evil, pure evil
simes, yorkshire, uk
Let's start a rumour that oil has been found in Zimbabwe - that's the only way that the United Nations, USA and UK will find the "courage" to step in and help an entire population that is being destroyed
David, London,
Stephen (New Orleans) and JG (Atlanta) - Iraq under Saddam and Zimbabwe under Mugabe - two nations led by maniacs who will happily kill their own people, true. And the big difference? Iraq - large oil reserves, Zimbabwe - none. Possible America's 'intervention' is not based on helping the helpless?
Josh, London,
Why does the free world fiddle? If I were in a position of authority I would have him taken out.
Brian Smith, Kansas City,
With very few exceptions, one being South Africa, every African nation where a national has taken control has ended up as a dictatorship. In many of those cases, the leader, like Mugabe, always thinks that his country is his own personal fiefdom with its riches his to command. What an atrocity!
Stephen David Watson, Springfield, Ohio, United States
Adam Hunt, London. Why the UK and US? They are but 2 of hundreds of countries in the world. Why not let somebody else have a go at world peace, as when the UK and US get involved they receive nothing but vitriol.
David Leslie, Perth, Scotland
Ben B, Albuquerque, United States of America
No, USA didn't let UN take care of Iraq, so UN doesn't have to do anything this time at all. You take care of it. Or is your president affraid of another Black Hawk Down?
Igor, Ljubljana, Slovenia
why dont America help the people of Zimbabwe. Help them -Find their freedom-...where are you America.......oh yes, there is no oil nor any resource of interest to America in Zimbabwe. Hence you have no interest there.....
Tom, London, UK
Yes, the spineless , pacifist Europeans dined with Mugabe at the World Food Summit although he is using food as a manipulative to ensure the many starving Zimbabweans vote for him in this upcoming sham election. Shame on you Europe. Spineless!
Mary, Los Angeles,
It has very little to do with left or right politics.
Zimbabwe has no oil.
KT, London,
I see many of you would wage a war for Zims. Magnanimous..IF EVERYTHING WAS AS SIMPLE AS FIRING A RIFLE..
Don't help the old lady cross the road unless she wants to. I know you think you know what is best for them, I also think you are right, but Zims have to reach that conclusion for themselves.
Rui, Lisbon, Portugal
You are all missing the point. This did not start until 1990, because PW Botha would have intervened. However, Mbeki supports & assists Mugabe (SA has blackouts while supplying free electricity and petrol to the Zim Regime).
Remove the racist ANC, and Zim will come right. Sanctions in SA NOW!
Aidan Mkwezi, Khayalitsha, South Africa
The complete lack of knowledge about "US wants the oil" 1st its proven not one drop of oil has benefited the US. 2nd, Zimbabwe has diamonds to get money from, doesn't the EEEEEVIL US want them? Finally, like all interventions, IRAQ included, the UN needs to make a resolution before we can go in.
Richard, Jersey City, NJ, USA
This brutality has been going on for twenty years--no new news here. Mugabe is a brutal racist dictator, who has terroized white farmers and forced them off their land, while the world has done nothing. Rhodesia was self sufficient exporter of food, now it cant even feed itself. Socialist dictator.
John W, New York, USA
It's Sir Mugabe.
steve, Vancouver, Canada
Where is Mandella - turned deaf dumb and in hiding?
Margaret , Cheshunt, UK
Margaret - How does Nelson Mandela come into this? He is an old man who spent his best years breaking rocks. You should be asking where Mbeki and Zuma are - they should get off the fence for the sake of Southern Africa
Mark Littlewood, Cambridge,
Zimbabwe gets all of its electricity from South Africa. With a little bit of political courage South Africa could end this in a few days by just turning out the lights.
Steve, Sweden,
Angela I completely agree with you. It's funny how people from the US continue to complain about America's nonexistent role in African war torn countries, yet they neglect to realize that Iraq was in a similar position years ago. I guess criticizing is much easier than giving recognition.
Kristen , College Park, USA
What sort of civilised world do we believe we live in? We invade Iraq and cause untold suffering in the name of democratic freedoms and yet a country like Zimbabwe with whom we hold historical ties we stand watch a despot cause atrocities to deny any democracy in his land. We should feel great shame
Graham Parker, Greenhithe, Uk
This is why Africans are leaving Africa in droves. I advise any Zimbabwean or African to leave Africa any way you can. These politicians will never change. As Leonardo DiCaprio said in Blood Diamond, God left Africa a long time ago. I dispair for my fellow Zimbabweans & Africans.
Tubbs, Milton Keynes, England
Michael Lindner: "When men of courage, like George W. Bush, and his father George H.W. Bush." You must be joking. The Bushies LOVE human rights abusers, as long as they have lots of money like the Saudis. The US invasion managed to kill more Iraqi civilians than Saddam could. Mission accomplished!
Dan, Hampton, England
The reason there are missionaries in Zimbabwae and other countries is to try to offer these people some hope. The horrific brutality there is a sign of demonic possession. The oppression is not just against the Africans, but against whites as well, particularly in the Southern tip of Africa.
Sara, USA,
Euro Socialists Love Mugabe. They can't be seen being critical of a fellow socialist/Maoist. Human rights complaints and torture/murder of civilians are only complaints to be used against the United States. Didn't you get the memo?
Nathan Brown, New York, USA
Be cruel to be kind EU and USA must withold financial aid to african countries, boycott the olympics because China is helping these brutal regimes get by- Move the world cup to Europe till South Africa get things in order.A travel ban should be just that A BAN. I am african and ashamed of RSA
Nomsa Dube , Newtown, Wales
What happened in Zim is nothing new for Africa. Mbeki and his AU don't care about the people. Rhodesia was a country to be proud off and now it's nothing. The same with Mozambique and many others. And what happens the West gets blamed. Africa's leaders are incompetent and corrupt .
Nico Booyse, Pretoria, South Africa
The UN should do what it normally does....send Mugabe a very nasty letter
Jim, Lusby, USA
If the UN was something more than an umbrella organization for dictators something might be done. The only country willing to fight back against oppression is the U.S. And all we get for it is grief. Kosovo didn't have any oil. Neither did Somalia. And not 1 drop of oil has been removed from Iraq.
Fleiter, Charlotte, USA
to Phil Mitchell, Johannesburg
why does SA not get off its lazy backside and do somthing other than stick it's head in the sand.
It is time africa started learning to deal with it's own problems and to choose what path thety want to follow
knight, aberdeen, uk
How about that the Swedish Socialdemokrats take some responsibility, they have been avid supporters of Mr. Mugabe for a long time. There are some unemployed diplomats available that could go down to Zimbabwe to talk sense into Mr. Mugabe.
Torsten, Stockholm, Sweden
steve tea says 'the labour party has blood on their hands'??!!........i bet he condemns them for the wars in iraq and afghanistan at the same time. How is this the fault of the uk??? are there not any other countries that could possibly do anything, or is it up to us to sort everything out?
Mike, Poole,
The killing has only just begun .The UN will do nothing, and Africa will tell everyone to butt out . 200000 people died in Darfur ,only a fraction of that has occured in Zimbabwe so far.The international communty can tolerate alot more blood .When is it time to react? 1 million dead 2mil?
Dully, London, UK
I think we've reached yet another low in human history. What the hell is the world going to do? So the world states it is 'concerned' about the Mugabe situation and then trundles off to discuss oil prices as people are burnt alive and intimidated. Shame on all those in power who turn from this.
Cole, Northampton, UK
And the sad thing is, if the US went in to protect and help the people there, the US would be called Imerialist and an evil Empire.
But if the US does not get involved, they are called uncaring capitalists.
Its a loose loose situation for them.
For everyone really.
Jason, Tallinn, Estonia
UN should hang head in shame, this is a terrible murder, ask Mugabe to condem it, I believe he was educated by the Jesuits at one stage , hard to believe.
Jim
jim, donegal, ireland
The tradgedy is that by African standards, this isn't particularly bad.
Jack, London, UK
Peter Lynch from England, take some solpadeine for that Empire hangover you have there and email your embassy in Zimbabwe to find out what diplomatic steps are being taken instead and then email your local TD/MP and join Amnesty. Do you really expect to be thanked for Iraq?
Sarah, Ireland,
Why so much indignation from the Britain and America when Africa/Mbecki doesnt care? Perhaps the west is at fault for trying to force democracy on a continent that is at best ambivalent about it. If there are those who advocate military action, perhaps they would like to do it themselves.
ian, wilts,
People talk such nonsense about oil and US intervention. It's about priorities and Zimbabwe is not that important, geopolitically. Don't blame the West, blame the Africans in Africa who sit and watch, apparently unable to see right from wrong. Give them a few hundred years, maybe more.
AJ, Cape Town,
Mike in Poole, I think the difference here would be that the west would be stopping a dictator for humanitarian reasons while in Iraq its all about oil. Afghanistan I can understand its was much of a humanitarian mission as well as stopping the poppy harvests and therefore heroin on our streets.
Lloyd, London,
This report sickens the stomach. How this man remains in power and the world look on, comment and do nothing is beyond comprehension. The shame, ultimately, is on us, the British, the UN etc tec.
patrick moore, tokyo, japan
Does anyone doubt that the very people that are screaming the loudest for Bush and Brown to do something, would be the first and the loudest to scream that Bush's and Brown's "White Supremacy Army" was slaughtering black people because they are racist?
WMP, Liberty, Tx USA
As erstwhile colonisers of Rhodesia/Zimbabwe, surely we owe its benighted population a bit of military support. We give enough to countries who neither need nor deserve it, so for goodness' sake let's help those who do need it.
leila, manchester, uk
I would assume if the international community got involved everyone would back them and cheer their praises. What is the difference between this atrosity and the genicide by Sadam Hussien? and Al Quada? Yet people look down on the US for what we have done in Iraq saying we shouldn't be there.
Angela, Myrtle Beach, USA
To Mike Poole:
It was Britain that messed the place up to begin with. There is some responsibility there, you have to admit, that no other country in the world shares with England.
NIls, Ottawa, Canada
Unfortunately the Zimbabwean problem needs to be dealt with by the combined African nations rather than UN, Britain or US. It's time Africa started facing up to its own responsibilities.
Mary Lyn, Norwich, UK
......and England and the world do nothing. It probably won't even get a mention in that useless body called the UN
I.Kemp, Nahariya, Israel
A brutal dictator who oversees such atrocities needs to be dealt with by the international community. Regime change is in order. A 'Coalition of the Willing' should be formed to go into Zimbabwe and enforce regime change and democracy. Oh...I forgot...there's no oil in Zimbabwe/Rhodesia, is there??
Steve, Sydney, Australia
the UK is a small country absolutely miles from zimbabwe yet according to the comments here its supposed to be only our (and the US) problem/fault? the world hates and condemns us for invading afghan/iraq (where 10,000's were brutalised/tortured/killed) but we're supposed to sort this one out now??
Mike, Poole,
This is a disgraceful regime and one that is never going to release power through the ballot box.
For the UN to actually gain some credibility and not be seen as a modern day League of Nations, they should act fast and secure the integrity of the next elections, otherwise many more people may die
Darren, Manchester,
Recent news has reported that there has been a military coup behind the scenes. Mugabe might well have no control in Zimbabwe. If the head to this beast is faceless military machine the situation is far worse. Elections are meaningless now; only brutal force will prevail over a junta..
James Cullup, Oxford,
This is Africa's problem.
If the West, especially the UK, gets involved, then that plays into Mugabe's hands - he can justifiably say that the colonial powers are meddling. No, this is one for Africans to sort out themselves.
Will Duffay, London,
Mugabe is only doing what many other African leader would do. They don't want white people in Africa but are quite willing to take our aid and money to write off their debts. Next is South Africa when Jacob Zuma takes power and 4 million white people will be looking abroad for a new home.
Michael Clark, Chesham, Bucks
What exactly does the United Nations do? The clue should be in the title but I really am not sure anymore.
Rebecca, bristol,
For God's sake do not give respectability to Robert Mugabe by letting him attend UN summits! It's like inviting Pol Pot to a UN meeting. Interestingly, somewhere in my house, I have an old 1970s magazine with a genuine picture of Mugabe and Pol Pot. They were friends.
Charan Muzaya, London, UK
Majority of Saffas would love to help but thats unfortunately our presidents call. Anybody seen him? Think he may still be preparing a speech for the xenophobic attacks that happened 3 weeks ago. Probably best to wait for Zuma to take full control of the ANC and then bribe him in to action.
Eish, Cape Town, South Africa
Nice work, replacing evil racest Rhodesia with this multicultural civilization.
Is Brixton next?
Jack, Highland, US
Where is Mandella - turned deaf dumb and in hiding?
Margaret , Cheshunt, UK
Janet, London ,
Yes Janet, sent in a drone and get him. But what if the drone makes a mistake and fire a shot at someone else. What happens then. You have also heard of mistakes like friendly misfire and friends getting killed. I did not know ladies of UK are so warlike too.
Lim, Johor Bahru, Malaysia
Unfortunately the true story will only emerge over time. SA govt insider says that there appears to be a strong military group (includes head of police and head of army) stopping Mugabe from negotiating with MDF. He is prepared to! The group is using scare tactics of what happened to Charles Taylor
Shalin, London, UK
anyone who is willing to suggest that the U.S> "do something" should be juest as willing to join your respective country's military and put yourself in harm's way in order to carry out your own government's repective military policies. If not, you have NO valid opinion.
joe, crofton, usa
Perhaps the Americans and British have learnt well. When Iraq was invaded, more died under the coalition than ever died under the Dictator S.Hussein.
The Afican nation could learn from Italian history how to solve the problem.
Neil Brown, Maidstone,
Any chance The Times could despatch a reporter to South Africa to ask Mbeki how his 'quiet diplomacy' is progressing.
Bill, RAmsey,
I pray Patson Chipiro will be given the strength and protection to oppose this evil regime. I fear Mugabes muder squads will continue to eradicate any opposition to his rule. Even if the opposition win, how will they exercise control over the corrupt armed forces and police in the country?
Ron, Milton Keynes, UK
Give me a gun, I love africa, its people are amazing, resilient but so fragile and trusting. We owe it to them, I will step forward, will Gordon Brown, George Bush, or any of them or will they hide behind diplomatic immunity. This is a sad day for mankind!
james, southampton, england
UK and USA have our hands full in Iraq and Afganistan, so lets see someone else go in and sort this mess.
Ron, Milton Keynes, UK
What a fine chap this 'leader' is....don't suppose Bush and his offsider - the UK - fancy sorting him out....might be more votes milage in it than the present Iraq/Afghanistan ruckus, but then it isn't as if there is a lot of oil nearby so no attraction there....!
Derek Clifton, Andover, Hampshire, England
Steve,
Zimbabwe aren't part of the Commonwealth, as it happens. Get your facts right!
And Britain are in a difficult position due to the legacy of empire. Why aren't Zimbabwe's neighbours speaking out? Their actions matter more to people like Mugabe.
Suzanne, London,
I'm one of those european leftist liberals that seem to get referenced constantly.
I firmly believed that removing Saddam was the right thing to do, and by force. This belief is not exclusive to the 'right'
Happy to see Mugabe kicked out, by force, with or without the ineffective and supine UN.
RZ, Glasgow,
And when they come seeking asylum what will you say
mike, london, uk
Africa wanted independence now it has to sort itself out. African leaders are behaving like spoilt teenagers wanting freedom to do as they please but not accepting responisibility.
Luke, London, UK
What a horrible story. What a dreadful end to life for an innocent woman, in the presence of a child.
Surely the likes of Mugabe and other dictators, their supporters/activists cannot continue to be supported by UNO, the EU, and neighbouring countries in Africa (or countries anywhere) ?
Horamite, Heathfield, U.K.
I read last week that the RAF "took out" a Taliban leader in Afganistan from the comfort of an airbase in the US. All done by computer and pilotless drone. High time Mugabe got the same treatment.
Janet, London ,
What is the rest of Africa going to do about this?
Where is the African Union?
The Afican Union should fix this problem or face rebuttal from the rest of the world.
Chad, Perth, Australia
Blair (and McBroon, who went along with it) couldn't enter Iraq fast enough !!
Now, McBroon has dithered over Burma (decided to take aid agencies' advice, and where is that situation now?) and no real action from him or Millie Bland in Zimbabwe.
Until removed, Mugabe will continue his evil ways.
Padraig, Perth, Australia
Truly Awful!
Jon, London, England
Why does the international community not repond to the blatant
abuse of the people of Zimbabwe by Mugabe. It should be made
very clear to him and his cohorts that they will be held responsible by them for all of the crimes carried out in his name.
M.FLYNN, HAYES, MIDDLESEX
Instead of civil war, people are starving, they have no job, no money, 83% of people live with less than 2$/day, 47% of people are under-fed, 2007 inflation went 8000 %, and 1/2 of them is < 20.3 year old, child-mortality is 50.58%. Is there any Bob Denard's friend or son alive to do the job ?
Why ?, Paris, France
So there's no crisis in Zimbabwe Mbeki? Unimaginable barbarism, a "president" making war on his own people, a collapsed economy, 165,000% inflation, a hundreds of thousands starving and millions of refugees?
May you and your murdering compatriot Mgabe receive your just desserts.
John, Noottingham, UK
Now do you see why George W Bush invaded Iraq?
Paul Francis, Brisbane, Australia
How deluded are the people that comment here? Bush didn't invade Iraq because he is a hero, he invaded for the same reason that nothing is done about Zimbabwe. There is oil in Iraq, but no oil in Zimbabwe.
Liam, London, UK
The whole Zimbabwe affair, the lack of condemnation by neighbours gives the impression that all of Africa contains nothing other than sub-humans maybe there are some good people, but there seems to be an abundance of evil. Sorry but I will not give to charities that work in Africa, let them all die
Keith Sloan, Winchester,
No Oil no rescue. The west only care about what they can gain out of conflict. We could never give democracy to a Muslim nation. But we can take out a genocidal maniac who is destroying a democracy that was already in place and working - but why bother say the capitalists. Make money not war
Scott , London, England
This is an international tragedy and action is desperately needed. However, are US citizens now claiming the high moral ground for the unauthorised and illegal invasion of Iraq? Do they not perceive Mugabe would have been a justifiable US target if oil and reconstruction economics had added up?!!!!!
Jonah, Kendal, United Kingdom
Let Gordon Brown sleep, rather try to wake the mute Mbeki. (UK and USA could at least put pressure on SA)
Mbeki tells us "There is no crisis in Zimbabwe" and then flies up there and gives him a warm embrace
anna, Johannesburg, South Africa
The world condemns the US and UK for military involvement elsewhere and then condemns them for noninvolvement in Zimbabwe. This should be a UN problem, but the UN is worthless, corrupt and should be disbanded. Africa needs to prove it belongs in the Int'l. community and solve this problem itself.
Kristina Jensen, Copenhagen, Denmark
Sir Roy Welensky and Ian Smith would be utterly shocked to see their beloved country falling down so fast in the hands of this tyrant Mugabe. Thank heavens they will never know, but all who put so much hard work into keeping these countries stable and economical must be heart broken at the misery.
Mrs Maggie Snook, Wareham, Dorset uk
Stage direction for a universal theatrical horror production:
Exit Pax Britannica - Enter Chaos
jwd, Perth, Western Australia, Australia
INVASION - The only conclusion to this sad affair and with a multi-Commonwealth military contingent if poss.
ian payne, walsall,
While Mugabe was swilling at the UN trough in Rome his supporters back home were having human Barbeques. Absolutely disgusting. I wonder if the myopic Thabo Mbeki thinks that this is the kind of enviroment where free and fair elections are possible. Savagery thy name is Africa.
Callum, Jakarta, Indonesia
Phil,
What is South Africa doing?
Chuck, Gahanna, Ohio, USA
The rest of the world will sit back and relax, happy in the knowledge that sooner or later the UK and US will troubleshoot on everyone's behalf in another hotspot.
Then they can all unite and berate us for making a decision that they were unwillingly to make whilst people are killed like animals.
Peter Lynch, London,
No oil no intervention. Zimbabwe are still a member or the Commonwealth why? Labour you have blood on your hands again due to your inability to stop this.
Africa you happily except charity from the West and yet you cannot get you own house in order.
steve tea, manchester, cheshire
Why get rid of Mugabe, there's another 10,000 to take his place. Let someone else sort it, we have enough soldiers dying in the middle east and we don't need anymore thank you. But please don't ask the EU, they're a flock of sheep, they're too busy taking our democracy away tocare about Zim.
peter reddington, leeds, UK
The crime here is that one human being is willing to brutalise another. Britain forcing regime change in Zimbabwe wont change diddly. Trying to pin every brutal murder on Mugabe is laughable. The report said: "they do it for money". Essentially they are contract killers under economic deprivation.
christopher Icha, London, England
Is Mugabe trying to prove Dr James Watson's theory?
jayil, london, uk
Why, Why, Why is this genocidal murdering dictator allowed to use his military forces in todays world. Mugabe, MUST BE STOPPED at ALL costs. It is time to forget UN Sanctions, and Foreign Ambassadors standing in front of their host nation media outlets, airing their indignation. It is time to act.
Jeremy Dillon, Bristol, UK
James Bernars, Adam Hunt, John McD, Brian Eastwood, Michael Benson, Dave in Munich, Clive Britcher. What are YOU doing about this situation? The UK and USA have led the way before and receive nothing but hate from the likes of YOU! Britain helped zimbabwe to independance and now Africa must step up!
Norman Pitkin, London, UK
Pull your finger out Africa! Forever condemming the colonial rulers for being nasty past and present. This one is now in your backyard under your rule and watch. You have nobody to blame this time apart from yourselves. Get stuck in!
ex-Zim
jono, perth, aust
Mugabe is a pathetic, aging despot whose outdated colonial bitterness is but a facade to save his own skin. The president of South Africa -a rather stupid man- should be ashamed for his lack of humanitarian criticism towards Mugabe and his thugs.
Anthony hawk, Warsaw, Poland
Zanu PF and their backers are the culprits. But who are the regimes paymasters? From which country do the weapons and equipment come from? Who does Grace get the money from to pay for her Rome luxury shopping? Who gives security advice and training to the regime thugs and murderers?
Colin, Cambridge, United Kingdom
Pity there's no oil in Zimbabwe otherwise Brave George Dubya might be there...
Phil Mitchell, Johannesburg, South Africa
As the veneer of civlization peels from Zimbabwe what is revealed is Africa at its most heartless. For the sake of his continent's reputation, Mr Mbeki must act now and bring to an end this tragedy.
Adrian Gilbert, Tonbridge,
"Let the UN take care of it this time!" - And when was the last time the UN took care of anything? Rwanda, Darfur, Kosovo, Serbia, Indonesia, Burma.... does the list of UN - sanctioned atrocities really need repeating.
mark mcfarland, dubai, uae
We should invade this former UK colony and restore law & order. This would be a welcome intervention unlike in Iraq.
A permanent UK garrison is needed to make sure that the independence granted is actually achieved.
These people are our responsibility - we put that despot Mugabe into office.
James Dowling, London, UK
In 1965 old Africa hands said what would happen.
Labour and Wilson thought they knew better.
UDI, sanctions, the Beira patrol and the Tiger talks are followed by Thatcher who wants to be rid of the problem.
Why grumble, you've got what you wanted.
That's Africa!
john, woodbridge,
These wicked murderers will end up in Hell, and will suffer unspeakable torment in consequence of their sins. It's a pity they could not have foreseen what awaits them. If they had a clue, they would have turned from their crimes. Hell is an horrific place served for the wicked of this earth
Clarice Kruger, California, USA
Ian Smith was right
CA, Manchester, UK
When men of courage, like George W. Bush, and his father George H.W. Bush, fight and stop Sadaam Hussein from killing hundreds of thousands, the world repays them with hate. Then they cry foul when something happens in Africa, and they have no answer. Strength halts atrocities, and thank God.
Michael Lindner, Kyoto City, Japan
It is revolting, it is disgusting, and it wouldn't happen today in any country governed by laws but this is Zimbabwe's problem, not the world's problem. However, with a little help...a little revolution every now and then is a good thing.
Bill Monahan, Gillette, USA
Man has been fighting one another since the beginning of time those who believe peace is obtainable live in a delusional world. There will always be monsters out there who want to rule by terror and when a man steps in with force he too is labeled a warmonger. Let the UN take care of it this time!
Ben B, Albuquerque, United States of America
The liberals in the US are fighting Bush now and campaigning against McCain on the premise, partially, of getting the US out of Iraq. Now they "feel bad" about what is happening in Africa and want "something" to be done. The war in Iraq ousted a dictator who was doing as much or more evil.
Robin C, Yakima, Washington, USA
Mugabe was once an effective fighter against a brutal colonial regime.
This monster must now be dealt with by Africans themselves.
The West has all but destroyed Iraq in the name of 'democracy'.
Am reminded of J.Joplin: 'Freedom's all thats left when there's nothing left to lose'.
Richard McCance, Nottingham, England
What's the point of even reporting about Zimbabwe. No one in the UN will actually do anything except talk. Report something else, it's obvious that no leader or politician actually cares.
The media reported about Sudan for years, what happened? NOTHING.
Porus, New York, USA
All the nations that choose to point fingers at the US and Britain for not doing anything should strap on a pair and try taking the lead for once.
Here's a perfect opportunity to show us how to liberate a nation. Go ahead Europe...do you have the guts to lead?
Sal, Vernon Hills, USA
Well done to all those in the US and UK who have supported the last resort of force to dislodge these vile tyrants. I know of nobody who supports war for war's sake, but the lefty liberals will always question the motives of anybody who is white and in the West - that's all they ever do, 'question'
SK, East Sussex, England
Saddam Hussein and his boys committed atrocities every bit as horrid and wide-spread. The UN did nothing. The US and Britain finally went in to take him out, and were condemned for doing so by the millions marching in European streets. And now you have the gall to say WE should take care of Mugabe?
Russ Armstrong, Becker, Minnesota,
Absolutely unacceptable that Britain stands by and wrings its hands. Absolutely unacceptable.
Clive Britcher, Caracas, Venezuela
Robert Mugabe is an occultist, a tyrant, and a failed leader. His country "enjoys" 100,000% inflation (yes, the number's correct). He uses the fear of both witchcraft and brute force to keep in power. He is nothing but a tin panned dictator.
He needs to be forcefully removed.
Danny Orser, Kissimmee, Florida
Adam,
I imagine the US is sick of fixing everyone problems only to be spat on. America is enslaved to the world's burden and receives nothing but hate and more work. It's not enough that we do it, the world requires us to hate ourselves for it.
CM, New York, USA
Remember all those liberal clergyman who screamed for Britain to overthrow the Ian Smith regime by armed force? Where are they now?
Hal G. P. Colebatch, Nedlands, Australia
I just hope that gordon brown can sleep soundly in his bed tonight, knowing full well what is going on in zimbabwe???
Having just visited the zambia side of the vic falls, I have heard of unbelieveable atrosities against zims....GORDON BROWN ARE YOU LISTENING????????
Dave, Munich, Germany
What cruise missiles are made for.
Greg Ohio, Cleveland, USA
If these brutal thugs aren't careful, Mugabe will be the target of a RESOLUTION passed by the U.N. General Assembly!!!
That ought to get their attention!
Bill, Irving, TX , U.S.A.
As a U.S. SF soldier, I'd be happy to serve on a mission to remove Mugabe. Unfortunately, Bob's right that we'd be condemned by the pacifist Europeans (Brits notwithstanding) who were all for the removal of Hitler and Mussolini , but who cares? We're not trying to win a popularity contest here.
Major Tim, Alexandria, VA, USA
When we refuse to allow children to bump their nose and learn the harsh realities of life they repeat the same mistakes over and over.
Africa as a whole has been treated like a dimwitted child.
They can fix their own problems and will, when they learn no one else is going to resuce them.
Boaz, Sonora, USA
civil war is the only answer after taking out the veterans and a few of mgabwes aides
johnDF, nice, france
This is obscene. I think the West could do more to force Mugabe out.
Michael, Deerfield, Illinois, USA
Michael Benson, Deerfield, Illinois, USA
This is unhuman. The world community must unite to stop thid cruel behavior. We, the people of the world, cannot sit back and read this without reacting. World leaders and international agencies are aware of this. We are all people and owe it to our fellow men to stop this.
Bill, Ocean City, Md, USA
How is it wrong for us to be in Iraq after Saddam killed thousands, but the UK and USA are expected to intervene in Zimbabwe? You leftists need to make up your minds!
Stephen, New Orleans, USA
Now everyone screams for something to be done!
But when the US intervened in Iraq and shut down Saddam's wood chipper and gas chambers, feckless European's cried foul.
Brainless liberals love to bask in their feelings of compassion, but when the rubber meets the road, feeling are all they have.
JG, Atlanta, USA
The people of Zimbabwe have suffered at the hands of this murderous, evil man far too long. How long will an apathetic world continue to look the other way? The burned outstretched hand of Mrs. Chipiro is symbolic of a beleaguered beaten down, nation desperately reaching out for someone to help.
Renee, Colorado Springs, USA
It is time to arm the people of Zimbabwe to defend themselves, their homes, and their country against this tyranny. It should be clear to all by now that the Zimbabwean people will never regain their liberty by purely democratic means. Sad to say, but it's absolutely true.
Paul Woodside, San Jose, California
I am ashamed to be British. Our failure to get rid of Mugabe is a national disgrace. If we have to invade to get him out so be it.
Brian eastwood, Petersburg VA, USA
As an American, I would be in favor of military intervention, but the world would call us baby killers and Nazis.
I can only imagine the world outcry if the South African government in say 1980 had done this to Winnie Mandela. I'm sure Jesse Jackson et al will be marching soon (sarcasm).
Bob, Alexandria, VA
'Chopped off one of her hands and both her feet.'
This disgusting behaviour has to be stopped, if the other african nations sit on their hands and tolerate this, inverted racism will have a field day.
edwina rigby, blackburn,
As a good Catholic, what do you think Robert Magabe says to his confessor?
And also why no comment at all from the Vatican?
Wes, Tortola, BVI
Spare a thought for the little boy who witnessed the assault - he will be scarred for life. Mr Chipiro is a brave man for showing strong leadership but it is all in vain. Without help, there will be no change in Zim. Its neighbour, South Africa, should lead the way but there is no chance of that.
Scott, Melbourne, Australia
When the RUF threatened to take Sierra Leone and disrupt the diamond trade, Blair sent in SAS and Paras to sort it out.
Are we really incapable of removing Mugabi? We can get the legal mandate and I don't see what the logistical problems are.
The UK has a responsibility to Zimbabwe.
John McD, San Francisco, ca, USA
Is the world going to sit back and watch as Mbeki goes and holds hands with this murderer who surely now has put himself beyond any human decency. He now needs to be tried for crimes against humanity and yet he is allowed to go to Italy so his wife can shop for luxuries while people starve.
Michael, Wokingham, United Kingdom
Holocaust
Dean, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
i don't posses much knowledge of the internal politics of the Zimbabwean government. I am nonetheless confident that the abhorrent action of torture and slaughter amounts to nothing but terror. The very action of suppresion will only make the suffered a martyr. It's not a media-wise action.
odysseus, ithaca, us
Atrocities against men, women and children in Iraq and Afghanistan go on every day but whiney Westerners have said there is no reason for US and UK troops to be in those countries fighting against the bad guys. Make up your minds people: is there a just reason to go to war? I say yes.
Ruth, Jackson, USA
Where in the hell is the rest of sub-Sahara Africa?
They are strangely mute whilst this carnage goes on.
Bruce Northwood, Washington, D.C. , USA
It's an absolute disgrace that America and Britain sit back and do nothing.
Adam Hunt, London, UK
And Europe sat down and dined with the man in Rome.
william, Atlanta, USA
when will the free thinking world sit up and listen to what is happeing in Zimbabwe "the bread basket of Africa"! Would these atrocities carried out in the name of a leadership be allowed in Europe? We handed Rhodesia back fit and healthy -should we not be concerned about her continuing health?
Matt, redhill, uk
Gee, isn't life better now that the hand of western (white) rule has been eradicated and the evil Rhodesia, breadbasket to Africa, has been replaced by the native paradise of Zimbabwe? Oh, what's that you say? Zimbabwe is hell on earth? Well, you can't make an omelette without cracking a few eggs.
William Athanasidy, Cortlant Manor, USA
and gordon brown and the rest of the civilised world does what?
james bernars, chichester,