VA Curtis, D Ashton (below), refer to 200 years of damage by shameful ethnic-European apartheid barbarism & exploitation in southern Africa.

Ethnic-Africans require Mugabe-fight-back for repair, restitution & honour.

Peace yes, but only with dignity - per King Cetshawayo or a Queen Boadicea

Hubert Taylor, Birmingham, England

VA Curtis, D Ashton (below), refer to 200 years of damage by shameful ethnic-European apartheid barbarism & exploitation in southern Africa.

Ethnic-Africans require Mugabe-fight-back for repair, restitution & honour.

Peace yes, but only with dignity - per King Cetshawayo or a Queen Boadicea

Hubert Taylor, Birmingham, England

Of course Hubert Taylor should be able to live where he chooses! That's freedom.But I strongly suggest before he makes any more ignorant comments that he pays a visit to Zim, with a stopover in Joburg. He then could meet some of the thousands of Zim refugees here. They'll soon put his head straight.

VA Curtis, Johannesburg,

Lim...how come you do not comment on the murders, beatings, torture and rapes that are still being carried out by Mugabe's goons? Booing Mugabe in Parliament comes nowhere near Mugabe's own sins.

David Ashton, Bathurst, Australia

Mugabe and his cabinet should be sent to a University, perhaps in the UK or the US to learn how to run a country and about democracy.
In Bob's speaches all he talks about is the UK colonialists, the US imperialists and the racist Whites.
Hey Bob, "it's the economy and good governance, stupid"

Gil, Funchal, Portugal

Greetings Lim, Johor Bahru (280808 below).

Thank you for noting our common-ground.

Let us also thank Timesonline for this cyber-link.

Hubert Taylor, Birmingham, England

Dubbelstandars of the world. Some accuse Russia to use russians living abroad as a means to control neighbouring countries. Could one say the same thing about Britain and Anglos living in Southern Africa?

Daniel, Malmoe, Sweden

Ian Jones, Reading, UK

I agree with Mr.Hubert Taylor. The MDC people disgraced themselves with such behaviour.
Further, must Mr.Hubert follow the views and actions of the West to be welcomed in UK? Where's the freedom of speech you preached? Where's the human right you talked so much?
280808

Lim , Johor Bahru, Malaysia

Zimage, Harare, Zimbabwe
Right on. MDC's Mr Morgan T will act according to instructions. Can he truly lead Zimbabwe?? I wonder why all these democratic movements in Zimbabwe, Myanmar and now in Thailand are causing political chaos. Need to see the hands behind all these so called movements.
280808

Lim , Johor Bahru, Malaysia

Are you for real Darrell?! Never again in my lifetime will a shameless racist like Smith rule Zimbabwe. However bad things get for us, reverting to fourth-class citizen status is not an option.

Takunda, London,

Winston Churchill once wrote:

Dictators ride to and fro upon tigers which they dare not dismount. And the tigers are getting hungry.

Steve, Hull,

Mugabe is married to Mbeki's sister?? AJR of Miami, USA - don't you think the situation in Zimbabwe is bad enough without disseminating such nonsense?

Alastair Roy, LONDON,

How great a nation this could have been if Ian Smith had been allowed to continue to run the country in peace. Sadly most of the western nations preferred to bow to the demands of the communist OAU and put this thug in power. Smith compromised time and time again for the good of the country.

Darrell Monteith, Omagh, Northern Ireland

Should we not forget that it was the pressure from the west and Euorpe that ended Apartheid in South Africa. Hubert: Keep kidding yourself that its about colonialism blah blah - its about wealth, power, corruption and protection from prosecution for the Matabele atrocity of the 1980's

Simon, London,

No you're right Hubert, because Mugabe and his supporters overthrew the previous oppressive government, Its perfectly okay for him to violently quell opposition to change that the people apparently want.

Alex Maxwell, San Francisco, United States

The man has to go. There is no ore ime for him. He has ruined the country and the only way the poor people of Zimbabwe can hope to surviveis by extendingtheir hand to the orld community and that, without the demagogue

dumos, Montreal, Canad

All I can say to Hubert Taylor of Birmingham, England is... "courage"? It doesn't take courage to murder people... it takes cowardice. All Mugabe and his thugs are caable of doing to insure their continued power is maim, abduct and murder. What courage is there in that?

Michael Britton, Niles, IL, United States

Mugabe is the Saddam Hussein of southern Africa.
He is murderous scum.

For all that , fellow African nations look on at simply tut-tut while thousands starve. For they know many came to power themselves via brutal intimidation.

Mel Trevor., London W7,

Why do some African governments even bother to have elections? Mugabe has rigged all the elections he's had since 2000 and he just won't let let go, even after losing the vote. He may fool a lot of Africans, but even they are beginning to see the light. Mugabe your days are counted. You are useless

Gil, Funchal, Portugal

NEPAD was designed to ensure that AID was delivered to SADC on condition of good governance through an effective peer review process.
I have seen only a fake window dressing that appears as if peer review were taking place.
The commitment to dictatorship in the region continues.
CANCEL NEPAD!

Cris Cross, Harare, Zimbabwe

I am dazed by the whole process of the last 5 years - It does not bode well for Southern Africa as a whole. I would have thought that African politics would have moved beyond the Idi Amin years by now. It really shows the whole world's politics as being lacking.

Gunduane, Sydney,

Mugabe's just treating the MDC as the traitors they are. Don't forget that the original deal he made with the farmers was 'we won't interfere with your farming, you don't interfere with our politics'. They immediately got together to form the MDC.

The west's worry is more about supermarket shelves.

Kevin Sweeney, Edinburgh, UK

i think we and the usa should pull out of africa completely, we poured billions into this black hole, (somalia, ethopia etc ) and for what ? the place is as bad now as ever. No more aid no more troops, and let them sort there own mess out. if there's a bloody revolt somewhere, so what ?

james, pill, england

It was wonderfull to see Mugabe finally being humiliated. Hope to hear more of that song "ZANU is rotten"
Well done MDC for outfoxing that snake called Mugabe.
Mbeki should also be humiliated for all that he's done against MDC. He is a big part of the problem.
Morgan, hang in there, don't give in

Gil, Funchal, Portugal

Whereas the prowess of Robert Mugabe, as a freedom fighter, made the birth of Zimbabwe possible, it does not give him and his followers the right to cause suffering to the nations people for their own ends. Just as a father does not have the right to abuse his offspring.

Tom Byrne, Pretoria, South africa

Stop referring to Mugabe as president, it's an insult on the millions of Zimbabwe citizens who voted him out of office. Mr Tsvangirai the President elect of Zimbabwe should be referred to as (The President elect). How can the World press be so Dom, calling illegitimate office holder president.

Osaretin, Edinburgh, Scotland

Mugabe is married to Mbeki's sister so how can anyone logically expect that Mbeki will act honorably ? I just feel sorry for the people thathave to live under this kind of dictator that has no compunctions in ordering killings and maimings of his own people.... Shameful !

AJR, Miami, USA

crisis? what crisis? this is business as usual for adolf mugabe. he hasn't taken much notice of anything anyone has said or done -with which he doesn't agree- for the last few decades. why on earth would he change now?
chin up, mdc. democracy may be a dirty word in zimbabwe, but you'll get there...

grindles, london, england

How much does Zimbabwe have to suffer before somebody steps in to help? I am afraid that only a direct confrontation from like minded countries will prevent this illegal government from destroying the country, leaving nothing but a bloody mess of tortured people, which is sadly happening already.

Gerry, Blandford Forum, UK

I was surprised that they entered a deal in the first place.

James, Oxford,

"...it is unlikely that Mr Mugabe would stand idly by, restrained by the law.". That's about the bottom line. Mugabe COULD be restrained by his fellow african leaders, especially Mbeki, but have they got the guts to do it? Probably not.

David Ashton, Bathurst, Australia

Hubert Taylor, My response was not emotional. What Mugabe has done is replace colonialism with dictatorship. You are supporting this dictatorship. My view is that anybody that supports this position does not deserve to live in a democracy and democracy's should protect themselves.

Ian Jones, Reading, UK

There will not a power transfer deal in Zimbabwe, you may shout Britons but you will never rule our country indirect. We are prepared to defend our country at all cost.

Chipo, London, UK

Having visited Zimbabwe in 1987, and having had many visits to South Africa where the Zim. politicians go in there convoys to buy supplies, maybe it's time for the people to stage a revolution and remove him and his cronies by force. The man (Mugabe)is nothing but an approved dictator.

Graham, London, "This" United Kingdon

Maybe the insults during its last speech at the Parliament did little to make M. Mugabe accept the MDC in its government. M. Mugabe is an old man, he can't stand anymore to be insulted in its own government. He is seeking absolute power partly also because he wants to be alone rather than insulted.

diouf, Kobe,

the country was better when it was called Rhodesia at least the Farmer new how to farm and they had an economy,

steve smith, glasgow,

Mugabe's pathetic and corrupt government are constantly blaming the US + the UK. Under Ian Smith and despite world wide sanctions, Rhodesia prospered.
There was food for everyone, life expectancy well over 50 years and 1$Zim was worth 1$US. You should have learnt from Smith how to run a country.

Gil, Funchal, Portugal

Surprise, surprise.

Ben, monmouth,

Let us all understand one thing: this is not the fault of the US nor of the UK.

Don't try to blame your problems on other countries' actions.

John F, London,

Politicians never really care about the people that (a) elect them and then (b) 'pay' them to make life miserable. What chance does peace have when politics are always about power? The sad truth is.... un-educated masses make it easy for dictators.

Lynne Voros, Johannesburg, South Africa

The officious little Labour Government busybodies have caused more suffering for the Zimbabwean people.

They should keep out

Bonthron-Roxboro , Stockport, UK

The Mugabe charade continues. He has no intention of relinquishing power. Mbeki is a disgrace for aiding and abetting Mugabe's timewasting.

Paul Freeman, London, England

The only thing that compares to Mugabe's flaunting of the law is Mbeki's flaunting of rational thought in continuing to support this dicatatorial fool in Zimbabwe.

Edward B Ryder IV, Greenlawn, NY USA

Shame Ian Jones (below). Where I live is hardly your decision. I am not offended by your emotional attack.

I say it is right Zimbabwe redressses apartheid's economic & social ills.

Democartic birth can be painful. The first British PM was demonised & jailed while King Charles I lost his head.

Hubert Taylor, Birmingham, England

The Uk and the USA instructed Tsvangirai to make a u-turn on the talks and demand 'power change' instead of 'power-sharing', a ridiculous position specifically meant to give Mugabe no option except to move on without Tsvangirai. This type of Anglo-American tricks will not help Zimbabweans.

Zimage, Harare, Zimbabwe

Where is the similarity between what Mugabe is doing now and Rhodesia's UDI? Mugabe has been defying the world for years, except, of course, without the retribution that Ian Smith faced. And, by what measure was Rhodesia's constitution "illegitimate"?

Gerry, Faro, Portugal

Hubert Taylor, In my view you are not welcome in this country. Perhaps you should emigrate to Zimbabwe.

Ian Jones, Reading, UK

When oh when is South Africa going to pull the plug on Mugabe? Its about time they took responsibility for their continued support of his regime they are begining to look no better than the Government the ANC helped to replace!!

Rob, Tewkesbury, Glos

What a joke! Credibility is shot ! I, personally, would feel embarrassed if I were Bob. Astounding ! Only in Africa- I speak as an African !

alex, london,

Hubert Taylor,

Surely you are not serious. Mugabe has destroyed his country and clings to power using thugs to push his policies.

Mike Williams, USA

Mike Williams, Atlanta, USA

It is Mugabe who should be ashamed of himself for abusing the democratic system. He has managed to demean the Parliament all by himself!

Well done to the MPs for their bravery in opposing Mugave - I only hope that Mugabe's power is so weakened now that the MPs will not be murdered in revenge.

Nicola, Cambridge,

The ignominy is that of MDC MPs who demeaned themselves and their Parliament by misconduct at a televised state occasion.

Without the courage and fighting spirit of Mr Mugabe and his comrades in arms, these MDC boo-ers might still be cowardly submissive under ethnic-European-led apartheid.

Hubert Taylor, Birmingham, England

He surely wishes he had made a dignified exit ten years ago! Nelson Mandela advised him so then.

Charan Muzaya, London, UK

It's about time. May Mugabe and all dictators of his kind fall hard.

Mike, Long Island,

Now, to return order and peace, Zimbabwe needs an Oliver Cromwell to look over Parlament.

Thomas C. Inskip, Gualan, Guatemala

I find this article of little informative value

Brian Erlank, Watford, United Kingdom

South Africa should be praised for trying to broker a deal that does not involve guns, tanks and damaging sanctions. At least Mbeki is actually working towards a solution.

UK and US disaproval and empty words mean and achieve nothing.

John, London,

What a shock it must have been for Bobby Mugabe to have been publicly jeered. Bobby, its the sound that will accompany the end of your political career. You may once have had some respect, but that was a long time ago. Be sensible and try to exit with some grace or you may well end up in the Hague.

Callum, Jakarta, Indonesia

A crime to insult the President? I guess its true, he doesn't like criticism.

Mugabe is the worst thing for Zimbabwe. He kills his own people.

Enzo, Brooklyn, NY, USA

And yet Mbeki remains Mugabe's lifeline despite all that has happened. When will South Africa bow its head in shame.

roger Kingston, york,

Ha ha!

Roo, London,