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A teenager has confessed to murdering a man he met in a homeless shelter and eating parts of his brain and internal organs.
The 19-year-old, named only as Robert A, is alleged to have killed his 49-year-old room-mate by crushing his skull with a 20lb (9kg) iron bar, before using a butcher’s knife to remove the man’s intestines.
The murder is believed to have taken place at least three days ago and was discovered yesterday when a cleaner entered the shelter. The man allegedly told her about the murder and asked her to inform the police.
Officers who arrived at the ground-floor flat in the 15th district of Vienna found the body lying in a pool of blood, with body parts spread around the room. Half-eaten parts were found on a plate in the kitchen.
The 19-year-old was sitting next to the victim, his clothes allegedly soaked in blood. He reportedly greeted the officers by saying: “Just look what happened here.” He is believed to have told them that he had quarrelled with the dead man.
A police investigator said of the scene: “We are supposed to be prepared for situations like this, but this surpasses the limits of imagination.” Officers who attended will receive counselling. The two men lived alone in the shelter, a two-bedroom flat that is run by a private social care company, financed partly by the city authorities. It was created as a first-aid accommodation for mentally ill people living on the street. The residents receive weekly visits from social workers.
Robert A was placed there this month; the other man, named as Joseph S, was registered as having been a resident since June.
Reinhard Haller, a psychiatrist who has studied cases of cannibalism, said that the alleged killer was most likely to be suffering from either “a severe psychosis or extreme sadistic urges”.
Professor Haller said: “There are two possible explanations for his actions that immediately come to mind: a psychotic reaction, triggered by alcohol or other drugs, or severe sadistic derangement. A psychotic reaction could lead to insanity, including hearing voices and other hallucinations, that could make the perpetrator feel as if he was guided by outside forces and not acting on his own.
“The second scenario is that the man was a severe sadist but has managed to suppress his urges until now. The reported quarrels with his victim could have unleashed the accumulated aggression. In both cases we are talking about highly abnormal conditions.”
In 2001 Armin Meiwes killed a man and ate his penis. The murder, in Rotenburg, Germany, was committed with the consent of the victim, who replied to an advertisement on the internet.
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Someone was listening to Till from Rammstein - in the song "Mein Teil", Where he also uses a butcher knife and meets a Gentleman to eat his genital parts. Wenn du bis, Was du frisst...
Poseidon, Allentown, Pennsylvania
You all need to stop arguing on the internet like children. You can't argue an opinion.
Short and sweet. Funny that tidbit came from a 20 year old, when I'd venture to say the ones posting prior to me had at least a good 5-6 years on me.
LCpl H., MCB Pendleton, CA USA
MIchelle,
in the first place, it is not anatomical features that separate humans from animals. I had at one point thought it was the ability to think and reason, but you are certainly pushing that theory to its breaking point.
Secondly, the reason that you haven't dropped dead from being a vegetarian is that you are only one person. The comment you were referring to stated that if everyone stopped eating animals that people would die off, which is true. Just because you live a privileged life in which you can afford the choice of eating other things doesn't mean all 6 billion other people in the world can too. Sidenote: are you a vegan? because if you eat eggs/dairy products, you are supporting atrocities against life which are not more or less heinous than if you ate meat. If you are a vegan, than the things you eat for protein are expensive to produce, and if everyone in the world tried to eat them, most would starve. If you are not, then you are a hypocrite.
Nick, Tempe, AZ
"..and God is the only one who can change truly him"
Wrong. Only he can change himself. If he just sits around and passively expects some outside force to suddenly make him turn himself around, he'll be waiting the rest of his life.
Not that it really matters either way -- he'll probably get capital p or a life term. "Getting saved" is pretty irrelevant.
Aaron, Eastern, IN
You can stop jumping all over Ben's back. If you READ his comment properly: "It's not so bad - the fact this is headline news all the way in Australia means that behaviour like this is still very rare"
It's HEADLINE NEWS over here in Aus, he mentions nothing about it happening in Australia. Geez.
Nik, Melbourne, AUSTRALIA
As an anthropologist, I still find the cannibalism taboo is extremely interesting. Only in few places is it not considered something disgusting but it still happens in every part of the world at least once.
Cambridge, Cincinnati, OH
David in Texas, why is valuing an animal as much as a human preposterous? Is it because you walk on two legs and have opposable thumbs and have sex for pleasure insetad of mating. Is that what makes you so much better than an animal? All life is sacred dude, all life.
William in Monterey, wow. I haven't eaten meat or animal products in years. I wonder why I'm still alive? My dr says I am one of the healthiest people he knows. My cholesterol is 107 which is unheard of, my iron levels and CBC came back good, so I guess that kind of shoots a hole in your arguement that veggie lovers all die. Enjoy your dead cow for dinner.
Michelle, Tucson, AZ USA
Donna is Bisbee:
I just finished reading an article about a preacher in south australia who said that as a man of god it was his responsibility to have sex with his two teen daughters and teach them how to be good wives. Christianity is not the be all end all and there are a whole host of "believers" who do unbelievably horrendous things all in the name of the triune god. What this kid did is not a matter if faith, he is mentally ill.
Michelle, Tucson, AZ USA
Alright, this is gross, but I don't think God has anything to do with this. Now, I am not saying anything bad about religion, it's a beautiful thing.
Bethany, Ocean Springs,
Perhaps people should read messages properly before posting. Ben from Canberra, (where i also live) only stated that this story made the news in Australia, not that the event actually took place in Australia. And stop the rubbishy comments about animals having no spirit, I do not believe in god and neither do a lot of people i'm afriad, and therefore the whole having/not having a spirit idea forms a pretty pathetic argument to a large portion of educated people. Animals are entitled to the same respect as a humans. without them we would certainly not be here. I am not a vegetarian, but I belive an animals life should have just as much respect as human life, they are entitled to humane and just treatment. I rarely waste time commenting on blogs such as this, but I couldnt believe the amount of stupid comments that were posted here, so i just had to let all the people that posted such trash know that they should use their brains before commenting.
liz, Canberra, Australia
Chickens, cows, and pigs are tasty treats. God put them here for us to eat. If not, what purpose do they serve. Exactly, none. We would just have a bunch of farm animals over populating the earth
Josh, Baltimore,
He says that it is headline news in Australia, not that it happened there, hence, that if something that happens in Austria that makes headlines in Australia, it must be a pretty rare for things like this to happen.
Still pretty screwed up.
Love love.
Heywood, Newcastle, UK
This horrific and disgusting! This is a glimpse of what man is without God and left to his own devices! Romans 1:21 -31
Because that, when they knew God, they glorified [him] not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, .........
Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: ...........Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Donna Mabe, Bisbee, USA/AZ
It's AUSTRIA dude, not AUSTRALIA and besides, there are derranged people like this everywhere. I just hope I never run into one.....
Nikki, San Francisco, CA
This kid needs a good nutritionist and a psychiatrist!
mike, Miami, Florida
This is sadistic and herendous! We should absolutely thank God that this is rare. This world is only going to get worse and more evil. Maybe Robert can find God, while in prison. Joseph's family is in our thoughts and prayers. Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge:but fools despise wisdom and instruction. God will have mercy on his soul, if he sincerely asks for forgiveness and Jesus to come into his heart. That won't change the terrible, inhumane fact of what he's done, but it's his soul and God is the only one who can change truly him.
Jenn, Springfield, U.S.A.
this guy seriously has something wrong with him!! but i have to agree with everyone else and say that thank GOD that this is rare to be headline news all around the world! Just goes to show what the world is coming to...
Ellen, orange, Texas, USA
To Raj in California Your comparison of animals with humans shows that you have no real conscience of waht is right and wrong, you are brain dead. If people stoped eating animals people and animals would be droping dead every where from starvation and lack of care.
william David, Monterey, Ca
(To all those who think that a man eating a man is wrong, how come man eating hen(chicken), lamb, pig ,cow etc be right? ...All are equal before god..if killing and eating a man is sadistic and unpardonable,then killing and eating innocent dumb animals is equally sadistic in my view.) Raj, you are a fool. Equating an animals life to a human is preposterous.
Dustin, Texas, USA
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.
Peter, murrieta, ca
What wine goes with human intestines? Merlot?
Steve, Nashville, USA, TN
"We are supposed to be prepared for situations like this, but this surpasses the limits of imagination.â
Must have been quite a suprise !
Small wonder that statement was followed by ;
"Officers who attended will receive counselling"
Though I really feel more sorry for the cleaner.
Francesco, London, UK
This is something i want to do before I die when i'm 50 or 60, but 19 is too young.
Mike, Phoenix, Arizona USA
Have a look at http://www.crimelibrary.com/ and you'll find all sorts of craziness. Cannibalism? Uncommon for most cultures, however the Fore tribe of Papua New Guinea practiced cannibalism when their loved ones died. Women and children would eat the brains and other body parts of the dead. Unfortunately, they were overcome by Kuru, a Prion disease similar to Mad Cow disease and the Fore tribe has since outlawed cannibalism. How about that for dinner conversation;0)
Sara, New York, NY
You evil Raj! You ripped that poor innocent carrot from the ground and ate it!!!1!11!!! It was just trying to live a happy life in the sun, being pollinated and making seed, but damn you, you just had to eat it didn't you? Shame on you for killing and eating, you evil evil man. Animals are not spirit beings, they are intended, by God, to give us sustenance. If we don't eat them, they just die anyway, and no, there is no animal heaven. Again, animals are not spirit beings. Almost everything that we eat was at some point alive or came from a living thing. If you are truly for the rights of living things, then you must eat nothing, starve and die, since that is what you believe...or are you just a hypocrite and eat every day like the rest of us? Humans are spirit beings, that is why the body of a human is sacred and not intended to be eaten or used as fuel. This is why most of us have a built-in repulsion for even the idea of eating human bodies.
Geminate, Aliso Viejo , USA
Ben in Canberra, this guy is in AUSTRIA, not Australia. After what happened with the guy in Germany a few years back, it makes one wonder if the ideation comes from exposure to other such stories within a society. Sometimes I wish stories like this would not make their way across the globe.
Jen, baton rouge, la
whatever the images that were/are displayed in this 'thing's' own mind to have caused him to commit such an act...viewer discretion is definitely advised. However, regarding animal "consumption", were human beings given the beasts of the field in the Holy Bible ? ...
Sovoriel, East Orange , New Jersey
and they say americans are sick people not so much the topic but the responses.
robert smith, san jose, california
I wonder if the cannibalistic character played by Anthony Hopkins had any influence in this incident.
Phoon, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
And what is the origin of the psychotic reaction?
It is a dog eat dog world, where one's crushed by society, a numb pressure and you either stand or you fall.
Ivan, Lisbon, Portugal
"I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti." - Hannibal
Mike Ross, Baton Rouge, La.
Have the authorities located the 19 year old's parents? or did he possibly eat them as well?
HerbW, Alexandria, Virginia USA
I wonder how many people in the world contain those kind of urges and how many people actually get away with it. Now that's scary.
Bonnie, Gainesville, USA.GA
"this just goes to show how ridiculous and deranged society has become" - Dimitra
It's not so bad - the fact this is headline news all the way in Australia means that behaviour like this is still very rare... thank god.
I think if you look back throughout history at psycosis cases you'll find this certainly isn't the first time, so it's not modern society.
Ben, Canberra, Commonwealth of Australia
"Reinhard Haller, a psychiatrist who has studied cases of cannibalism, said that the alleged killer was most likely to be suffering from either âa severe psychosis or extreme sadistic urgesâ."
Another no-nothing trick cyclist - perhaps he was just hungry. Afterall, meat is meat.
Ross, London,
The startling thing with over 6 billion people int eh world is that this is so rare. Thank God.
Neil, London, UK
I think it's sick and repulsive that boy should be locked up like "Brother Lynch"
Desmond Brooks, Tulare, California
Yes Saad Ali Khan, this is rather quirky behaviour - I agree. I would even go so far to call it frivilous.
But "boys will be boys"... and butcher and eat their roomates every so often.
Wongburger, Singapore,
This is a horrific and a sad story. Nonetheless it does broaden ones mind of the kind of quirky things out there.
Saad Ali Khan, London, U.K.
this just goes to show how ridiculous and deranged society has become,
Dimitra, toronto, canada
is Armin Meiwes' sexual orientation at all relevant i wonder? somewhow i doubt it...
elizabeth, london,