James Miles of The Economist in Lhasa
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The violence erupted suddenly and clearly caught the authorities by surprise. Lhasa has not seen any rioting on this scale for 20 years, possibly not for the past 50, although tensions have been high this week because of the anniversary of the 1959 uprising in Tibet and fuelled by the desire of many Lhasa residents who wanted world attention to their plight as the Olympics approach.
It began with an attack on monks near one of Lhasa’s temples. The security forces are reported to have beaten a couple of monks with their fists and this led to a monk retaliating by throwing stones at police and police vehicles. Nearby crowds then joined in, throwing stones at Chinese shops and businesses.
I saw a group of a hundred or so residents breaking up pieces of concrete and throwing them at the windows of Chinese shops as hundreds of on-lookers cheered. There was no sign of any attempt by security personnel during all of this to restore order. For an entire afternoon and into the evening Lhasa was under the control of rioters.
At the outset, the violence was also directed at passers-by who appeared to be ethnic Chinese. I saw one boy on a bicycle and people throwing stones towards him. As a foreigner, like other foreigners in Lhasa, I was treated with respect by the demonstrators. When I rushed forward to stop them attacking the boy, they ceased throwing their stones.
Several taxis I saw driving past had stones thrown through their windows. And a bus caught in the middle of the crowd had stones thrown at it. A small group of people carried a Chinese flag out into the middle of the street and trampled on it.
Throughout the afternoon groups of people came out from various houses. Sometimes just one or two teenage youths armed with traditional Tibetan knives, sometimes large groups of dozens, attacked Chinese shops, most ethnic Chinese themselves having fled in the early stages of the violence, leaving their shops shuttered but not secure enough to prevent them from being broken into by the mob.
They hauled out everything they could from row after row of Chinese shops. I saw them dragging out clothing , large pieces of meat and gas canisters, all of which they heaped on to the streets and set alight, with occasional explosions as the canisters caught fire.
Within two or three hours, the main Beijing Road that runs through the middle of Lhasa was engulfed in flames with fires every few yards and one or two buildings ablaze.
In one side street I saw two burnt-out cars as well as two fire engines that had been set on fire by the mob.
As a gesture of celebration and defiance, many of the demonstrators took rolls of lavatory paper and threw them up over electricity wires so that many of the side streets were filled with hanging strips of paper, which they intended to resemble traditional Tibetan scarves.
One toyshop had been broken into and was swarming with children who were carrying away the merchandise.
At one point, a monk dragged me into a monastery building to keep me away from the crowds. He took me into a back room where, as we were talking, a teenage boy rushed up and prostrated himself before the monk. The monk asked him whether he was a Tibetan or a Han Chinese.
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I have just seen TV scenes of Tibetans protesting in Nepal and in Greece, (Olympic torch ceremony). It also showed police beating back the protestors in Nepal and of scuffles in Greece..
It is my opinion that it is not a wise move on the part of the Tibetans or others taking part in the protest. They need to respect and abide by the law of the countries they are staying in. The Olympic torch will still be lighted and transferred to Beijing. The Tibetan monks in Nepal refrain from violent protesting. Why get a beating when you are supposed to pray and live a peaceful life. Let the leaders sort things out.
It is sad things turn out this way. China has laid out its conditons to meet the Dalai Lama. The ball is in his court. He should act independently without outside influence for the sake of his followers.
Lim, Johor Bahru, Malaysia
China forcibly occupied Tibet in the Fifties. Tibet has a different culture. It nestled between India and China. Tibet has been swarmed by Han Chinese and slowly destroying the culture of Tibet. If at all China is concerned about Tibet it can grant at least limited autonomy. It must stop massacre and destroying the culture of Tibet.
E U Quadros, Thane, India
To Jon Kingdon, Lelystad, Netherlands
First, Tibet was and has been part of China since (at least )1271 AD. Please answer: has China ever been part of the "foreign power", other than occupied by force during WWII?
Second, please remember, China gained Tibet freedom from the slavery society. Chinese government was deeply appreciated by the witness Tibetans at the time when China announced independence as one united China. Since that, transportation constructions, favorable business policies lean towards Tibet, favorable education policies for Tibetans in any schools, etc.etc. , all point to the same direction, that is, to help the economy grow. So what are you talking about?
Viola, Springfield, USA
free tibet
tsultim gyamtso, germany, germany
most people don't know the history of tibet, including chinese and western. we need a better way to solve it, but absolutely not separation or violence.
bowen, lancaster, UK
the western 'GANG OF FOUR' is:
1 ) Fidel Castro,
2 ) Hugo Chavez,
3 ) Ken Livingstone,
4 ) George Galloway.
John Farrell, Brentwood, Essex, U.K.
If the rest of Tibetan people in Tibet feel the momentum surge, all will rise. I agree, the casualty will be high but Tibetan people in Tibet feel they have nothing to lose.
For the Chinese who read this ... to truly understand the actions of the Tibetan people... try meeting some Tibetans and really understand them. No Tibetan ever feels Tibet belongs to China. Our culture, language, history are all different. Tibet was clearly a Free and Independent country.
The biggest mistake the Chinese government is making is waiting for the Dalai Lama to die. His Holiness the Dalai Lama is the only person who can convince the Tibetans to accept Chinese rule. Negotiate now or pay later!
And to the Chinese Canadian William, I don't get what your threat is all about. We, Tibetans, should now fear overseas Chinese? Be lucky that the Tibet movement under the Dalai Lama has always advocated no hatred against the people. I continue to have my best friends as Chinese-Canadians.
Gyame Kyakpa , Calgary, Canada
To Ling Weian,
Not so long ago in the second world war China was occupied by a foreign power which deprived the Chinese people of their freedom. Today the same is true about Tibet.
Do not the people of Tibet have the right to govern themselves, just like the Chinese people and be free of foreign powers?
Jon Kingdon, Lelystad, Netherlands
I'm a Chinese living in the mainland. I really feel regretful about what happenning in Tibet and get no idea about the reason of the chaos. I dont wanna comment our government, beacuase as a country with some 1.3 billion population, it's difficult to image if without a powerful gover the country would be! and i can image the anger of the tibetans come from, maybe it comes from the gap of the rich and the poor as the chines economy growing faster and faster. However our gover is trying to minimize the gap all the time. And comparing the level of the poor nowadays with that of decades ago, the raise is obvious! i dont think withou the support of the mainland, tibetans could get such a rise in life. You can just have a look at the Indians and Nepalis.Besides our gover respect the belife of the tibetans all the time. Wish the convulsion terminate as early as possible.
Ling Weian, Nanjing, China/Jangsu
The Chinese have no business in Tibet. They should all live. We for half a century have sat quietly waiting for help from the worl outside. And guess what, no one gives a toss. We should have fought for our selves years ago.
Dechen, London,
"The protesters in Tibet were really stupid for doing this. It is not going to help their cause at all."
William, clearly you know nothing of the Tibetans plight. This wasn't a premeditated event. Read the article - it's clear that Chinese thugs attacked Tibetans first. Then other Tibetans reacted. The attack on the monks was the spark that lit a bonfire piled high with firewood and drenched with petrol.
Tibetans are angry as they have been oppressed by China for decades. It's easy to say they shouldn't protest, but what else can they do? If they are quiet Chinese like you say "oh, but look Tibetans so happy - they never complain". If they protest Chinese like you say "oh, but look they so violent - they can't manage their own affairs."
If Chinese like you spoke up for them and tried to improve their lives, maybe things would be better. But as it is you try to justify Tibet's occupation either way. You can't have your cake and eat it.
Francis, London,
LOL How bad is it? It was for all intents and purposes a race riot. However justified it might be, the only thing now is to wait for the Chinese govt's response. I predict it will be muted for the olympics.
Mike Het, Langley, BC,
The protesters in Tibet were really stupid for doing this. It is not going to help their cause at all. As an Chinese Canadian who was living in Indonesia during the anti-Chinese riots in Jakarta. I went through the worst areas hit by the riots in couple of hours after it stopped. At that time you just had to look Chinese to be attacked, and I assume that would be even more so in Tibet. Because Tibet and Chinese are more alike than Malays are to Chinese.
I feel really sorry for the Tibetans now, and they should wish that China was not as free as it is now. Because it works both ways. You might get sympathy from the Western press. But overseas Chinese and mainland Chinese will be able to vent their anger in blogs, forums etc. I am sure the Chinese government would like the other way.
William, Ashford, UK
no our leadership must now realise that we can do whatever is nessecary. they created their problems, and now they must suffer the consequences. of course, china can withdraw, but our troops should excersice a burnt earth policy on our exit. that will show them what their country will be like, without china. a dry barren landscape incapable of sustaining life
David, weymouth, dorset
Chinese communist leader should by now realise that Tibet belongs to Tibetan. There will never be stabitily in Tibet as long as China ignore the rightful demand of Tibetan. They just want to live in peace in their land with their rich Buddhist culture.
Just as Chinese are happy in China so also Tibetans in Tibet. Leave Tibet and stop trnsferring large number of Chinese to make Tibetan minority in their own land. Chinese people will never think of hurting other nationalities, it is the Chinese totalitarian regime whose monsterous ambition to conquere Asia is destroying China's image and peace in Asia and in the world. Wake up! If we really want to have Olympic?
Miudundrug, Hongkong,
How bad is this?
Weining Chang, Lansing, MI