Ive seen the video on youtube which shod a chinese man who was stabbed at a bus stop by a tibetan. the chiense woman who had her head cut open by a tibetan axe. and the damage the tibetans have done not in tibet, but in central china. i just hope the pla boys sort this out as swiftly as possible, without EXCESS bloodshed

David, weymouth, dorset

It is to Chinas detriment that she is still illegally occupying Tibet where she has been enforcing foreign rule for 60 years.In 1937 the UK accepted that TIbet was Independent before China invaded Tibet in 1950.Red Guards murdered over 1 million Tibetan people and destroyed 6000 monasteries taking religious objects and defacing them,in effect,trying to ruin Tibet as a nation claiming her part of the Chinese Motherland.In 2008 the Olympic Committee decided China could host the Olympic Games allegedly these events are about co-operation and showing the positive effects of global sport.I say that it is hypocrisy to permit China to hold the Games for China has not yet learned to allow other nations to decide their own future.China is not a fair country which millions of people now see.I ask Readers to write letters to their political Leaders in any country requesting them to protest to the Chinese Leader until a massive vote of NO CONFIDENCE in China prevails.Free Tibet Now.

trevor swistchew, edinburgh, scotland

A Desert Storm on Tibet is nothing more than a JOKE. Whether Tibet has resources or not matters not. Western countries are just too weak to match today's China in war. Another Desert Storm, or Endured Freedom, or whatever else, will only end up swiftly in the utterly defeat of Western "powers". The enemy of China had their chances before. US&its allies in 1950s, India in 1960s, Soviets in 60-70s. They were all defeated. And these "powers" can't even win a war against tiny, lesser countries as Iraq or Afghanistan.There are simply none who can win a war against the People's Republic of China, let alone taking Tibet away from it. Tibet's independence in the future, no matter how reasonable and justified as the western people see it, will never become more realizable than a day when the Sun rises from the horizon in the west. A great Daydream it remains, though.

Data Stack, Seattle,

What can you expect out a rogue nation aiming to be a world (mafia) power that has heaped abuses on the Tibetan spiritual leader respected all over the world as apostle of peace?

NK Pant, Dehra Dun, India

It is to Chinas detriment that she is still illegally occupying Tibet where she has been enforcing foreign rule for 60 years.In 1937 the UK accepted that TIbet was Independent before China invaded Tibet in 1950.Red Guards murdered over 1 million Tibetan people and destroyed 6000 monasteries taking religious objects and defacing them,in effect,trying to ruin Tibet as a nation claiming her part of the Chinese Motherland.In 2008 the Olympic Committee decided China could host the Olympic Games allegedly these events are about co-operation and showing the positive effects of global sport.I say that it is hypocrisy to permit China to hold the Games for China has not yet learned to allow other nations to decide their own future.China is not a fair country which millions of people now see.I ask Readers to write letters to their political Leaders in any country requesting them to protest to the Chinese Leader until a massive vote of NO CONFIDENCE in China prevails.Free Tibet Now.

Trevor Swistchew, Edinburgh, Scotland

Dear Harry,
I have found the link to the Chinese web site very interesting as indeed Western media have mixed up Nepalese and Chinese police. However, if China was giving full access to Tibet to Western reporters, this would not happen. China's big problem is that censure wlll always back fire big time.
China leaders could be the strongest and the best in the world if they were to agree a deal with the Dalai Lama about culture autonomy. If they achieve this, they would have beaten the Americans (who messed up the Native-indian issue), the British and the French (with Africa and India) and the Russians (with Eastern Europe). Hu Jintao has a UNIQUE chance to make history as the best president of any nation in the world. He would also get his glory from hosting the Olympics at the same time. WIN/WIN situation. I am amazed that he cannot see this.

Erick, London,

Its a barbaric act to hit a six year old innocent child, its against humanity. And there are absolutely no reason for that kind of violence.
Are the people blind in this so called civilized western world?

Tommy Hsu, Vienna, Austria

Tibet doesnt count.

They have no oil. Dont count on another 'desert storm' taking place.

Besides, the west wants to appease China. Why? Cheap, mass produced commerce. Its the produce which is literally filling our shelves in their thousands. Never mind the fact that their human rights record is terrible. Freedom of speech non-existant. Pollution out of control. Population out of control. And an army which scares the hell out of America and Nato.

Our governments wont help Tibet. See above.

But YOU can. Boycott Chinese products.

Rob, London, GB

How ironic that most of the posts on this thread are from people living in stolen lands. Hey USA Imperialists - how about giving your land back to the natives? Ditto the Canadians.

Of course China is not a democracy - that's why it deserves this criticism right? But then again in the States what do you get to choose from in your glorious democracy - one of two extremely rich, powerful, well connected people? Democracy shamocracy if u ask me!

Hypocrisy knows no bounds in glorious western civilisation.

Adam Brown, Edinburgh, UK

Sorry Tenzin Choedak. Tibetans are about to lose their good image. You say "we don't kill or fight". Well obviously you are wrong and in one week from now as more proof of the violence will leak out of Tibet, and as the western media slowly realizes that there are no good guys in this conflict, this image will be seriously damaged. This will make the moral gap between you and the Chinese government much smaller. I feel sorry for the Tibetan people as your only big asset on your quest for freedom is slowly getting lost and you will soon find yourself in a much worse position than before the riots.

I would not choose to face the People's Liberation Army in a fist fight and I can't really understand why the Tibetans would.

Anders, Stockholm, Sweden

It's very funny to see posters from the US supporting China. I guess the Chinese Embassy's PR money is being well spent.

jon livesey, Sunnyvale, CA/US

"this is just ridiculous. The world sits and watches as the Chinese oppress the Tibetans, but if the same thing we to happen somewhere else they'd be jumping up and down and starting another Iraq war.

China is a disgrace and a joke of a country. "

When the west oppressed the whole world they are great now China is doing it its a joke? China is simply doing what the west until the same time China took over Tibet. If this happened anywhere in the world (ie race riots ) I bet the police would act hard and the people would want them to act hard.

raymond, Liverpool, UK

To SK Linn
I take it you would be quite willing for Hong Kong to return to British Rule?
You say China should stamp out trouble in Tibet >
Who created the revolt?
China did by illegally invading Tibet in 1950 murdering 1000000 Tibetans
Destroying 6000 monasteries
Go read a history book before you come on here talking rubbish

Trevor Swistchew, Edinburgh, Scotland

To Phil, Preston,

If you don't care what Chinese think, you will be regret one day. Now seems Bush and other leaders are more care what China will say, because they need China to help them, such as North Korea.

banfield, Beijing, China

Few Chinese people have some doubt that whether all Tibetan people want Freedom or not? This is really strange... who don't want to be free.?... who don't want to do what they like? We Tibetan people were innocent and we are now... we don't kill or fight.. we are Humble and the world knows about it.... Chinese Govt. wanna become rich by exploiting the small... harmless free Nation Like Tibet... Say No to 2008 Olympics.. Coz All I can see is the Bloodshed of my country people who just wanna have freedom like u all.... God Bless Us all...

Tenzin Choedak, New York, Tibet

http://news.wenxuecity.com/messages/200803/news-gb2312-546438.html

see above if you can.

I don't believe western media at all. They are all trying to 'BLACK' China whenever they can. They only report bad things in China, even it's good things but they can report it's actually bad in a amazing way ...

Harry, Toronto, Canada

you can think what you like but the rest of the world is disgusted by this authoritarian and over the top approach, if you allowed for peaceful protests then there wouldnt even be this problem. yours is not a government, it is a tyranny for tibet.

democracy and diplomacy is the way, youv clearly forgotten the finer and more noble aspects of the eastern traditions

ben, garthmyl, britain

China will fall the so called great economic miracle will collapse caused by a few who have been supressed for so long while the world turns a blind eye and is addicited to Made in china. China keeps on talking about how great they are how old their history is and how great is their culture is but they can not even respect human beings. Their might be economic and infrastructure wonders going on but you have a close look and their are cracks all over. Their is a simple rule you can not cage the human mind and supress humans for so long look at history everthing rises and falls. The party that runs China is a buch of gangsters serving the their own self intrest agenda and you know who they serve the west? Look at the bigger picture? So what happens who knows but at the moment the party is great in china the west love them and a nation suffers, "What comes round goes round"

ricky , bham , uk

The Dalai Lama came to power due to Tibetan Buddhism's believes that his is a living God which has been in reincarnation since 1391. A pretty good way to select a leader I guess?! How is that any better than how the leaders of the Chinese government are selected?

He’s not only the religious leader, but also the political leader. How is that going to work in today’s world? What if the Pope becomes of the leader for the western Christian nations instead of their respective governments? Is that going to work?

Yet due to Tibetan’s religious believes, they treat the Dalai Lama as God. Sadly in this case, the God in exile has his differences with the Chinese government. Hence this Tibetan issue which we have now.

zen, Beijing,

Now's the time......put pressure on China to quit Tibet or otherwise a boycott of the Olympics.

But they'll only boycott ours in 2012 I hear you say. Who cares

It's about time we recognised Taiwan too......

Phil, Preston,

My one hope is for china to be stupid enough to make an attempt at taking the Dalai Lama's life. They would never recover from a mistake like that. At best they would be isolated and have sanctions imposed on them. At worst(for them) they would face a total uprising in Tibet supported by military forces around the world

Tony, Maple Valey, Washington

You don't have to look any further. "Crisis in Tibet as Chinese Army cracks down". Nearly all those pictures were the rioters attacking civilians, and not even one show a rioter being hurt.

You have to love Picture 13. A Tibetan youth being escorted away by Chinese police? Are you kidding me? Isn't that the picture of a Chinese Civilians injured on the forehead, and being chased by the rioters, and police being greatly out number is trying to get him away? Just changing the angle of the picture doesnt change the anything my dear Times Editors. How pathetic can you get? Having trouble finding a picture of a chinese police attacking a Tibetan Civilian? So you decided to to twist the facts and so perhaps finally 1 picture out of the 14, supports your misleading and bias title?

It seems the so call free press is nothing more than another propaganda machines from the other side of mother earth.

BChung, Hong Kong,

It's natural to make comparisons between our home countries and others, but I don't think it's reasonable to expect China to let riots run unchecked.

It's ignorant to cast shame on another country when we don't understand the issues.

We're fortunate to live in democratic countries, but it didn't happen overnight. Many people in North America expect other nations to embrace our form of governments whole-heartedly and that is rubbish.

Benjamin, Toronto, Canada

no heads of state other than those beholden to china should be at the olympics. dont watch the olympics . dont buy chinese products

rob, pittsburgh, pa

Unless you have been to China and in particular Tibet please refrain from posting comments on what you do not understand. The rioters are killing ordinary Chinese, these are the people who get along with Tibetans on a day to day basis. The rioters are NOT speaking for Tibetans only for a very minor element who are hell bent on causing as much damage as possible in the hope that the West will interfere.

China will never give up Tibet as to do so it would also have to break up the rest of China into little chunks as befits its demographics.

If you think that China should not send in troops can you explain what you would like it to do?

joe, Edinburgh, Scotland

Why is the President Hu Jintao lead Chinese government taking too long to response to the latest statement "I [am] always ready to meet our Chinese leaders, particularly Hu Jintao." of His Holiness the Dalai Lama.

They are cowards, liars and killers.

Tenzin Gyaltsen, Dharmasla , India, HP

If Tibet were not part of China, the American India would stand up and force those the so-called Anglo-Americans out of America. What would those Americans do?

justin, Shanghai, China

I think china is the time to change another government

Wan Ka Bo, ChengDu, Guangdong China

it's obviously,tibet belongs to china.all peoples surround me think include taiwan and hongkong macaw is part of china.i has never thought tibet is different with other provinces in china.

candy, henan province, china

GOOD. China must send the strongest possible message to all Tibetans. Dalai Lama and to the world : (i) that Tibet belongs to China; (ii) that even if all the countries in the world love the Dalai Lama, his hyprocrisy cannot have his way (autonomy); (iii) that Tibetans cannot kill people and destroy property and get away with it.

The People's Republic of China is for all people to enjoy but if any group wants to create trouble then it must be stamped out completely and quickly.

S K Lin, Hong Kong,

To any in china who might read this . I am Canadian and proud of our multi cultural country. We are a working democracy that does not arrest or imprison it`s citizens , or send in the military when things get a little rough for the government . We negotiate. Diplomacy is the only answer at this point , to send in the army will only inflame matters and create resentment without hope among the people . Resentment without a small hope of change will result in desperation and I think that is why China`s government need s to step back and reconsider it`s decision to CRUSH a people for wanting to keep its heritage. SHAME ON YOU CHINA
Glenn from Canada

Glenn, smithers, canada

this is just ridiculous. The world sits and watches as the Chinese oppress the Tibetans, but if the same thing we to happen somewhere else they'd be jumping up and down and starting another Iraq war.

China is a disgrace and a joke of a country. The Olympics will be a farce.

Dean Rodrigues, Oxford, UK

Let's search for the truth in Tibet!
http://bbs.cjdby.net/viewthread.php?tid=471807&pid=16726819&page=1&extra=page%3D1#pid16726819

Joe, Guangzhou, China

@ H-tao, Hamilton, NZ

Ever heard of revolution against imperialist power?

Ever heard of fighting for liberation?

The profoundly corrupt and hegemonic Han government of Beijing has brought this on itself.

Boycott Bejing '08.

p.s. How nice to be living in a free country like NZ. How patriotic of you.

Shaun Smith, Toronto, Canada

Another phony story by western reporters! My God, BBC journalist suddenly can count, because he can count up to 400 military vehicles moving. Have you ever tried to count railcarts on track? You know how that's impossible? And then, from one accented Chinese soldier, he decided that troops come from all over the china to Tibet. How sad and funny!
I know westerners are tradditionally biased in reporting China. In my 25 years here, I saw numerous examples of bashing China. We should not forgot this time it's cleared like day and night that Tibetans are killing ethnic Chinese. Even Dalai Lama says so.

tedd, USA,

What I see in all reports on Tibet and never found out why is this "international condemnation/criticism" of China, what criticisms?
A) Government? They call for restraint, because there's nothing else to call without anything being done
B) Ordinary people? Its difficult for me to believe an independent, unbiased person would immediately jump to condemn Chinese riot police for doing their job against the violent mobs whose crimes has been video taped and witnessed by tourists
C) That leaves us only journalists, but no, articles only mention the "intergenerational condemnation", rather than who's doing the condemnation.
D) That leave only pro-Tibet camp who has been saying the same thing they have been saying since beginning of time, what has changed after this incident?

no amount of candle-light vigils and claiming to be victims of police crackdown can change the photos, videos, tourist accounts and even one CTV embedded journalist's footage of violent mobs vs defensive riot pol

Joseph, Toronto, Canada

Dalai Lama will travel to Beijing,It's really surprised me.I am waiting for it.

steven.zhou, china,

Tibet is a part of China forever.
TaiWan is a part of China forever.
Best wishes,china!

nana, shenzhen, China

The most dangerous thing is the ethnic strife between the Tibetan and Han people. The Han must respect the Tibetans and their culture and not treat them as inferior people. The Han always talk about having a strong, unified nation, but why expect the Tibetans to be excited about this when it's at the expense of their culture?

Joe, Shanghai, China

I think that it is important for world's media to be very precise in its reporting of this incredibly historic event. There have been Han Chinese people targeted by Tibetans in their fury and utter frustration at the way their sovereign country is being attacked by the Chinese Communist Government. Han's have been attacked, but bear in mind Tibetans have been attacked, jailed, beaten, cowed, smothered and executed for 50 odd years. It would be a travesty if the world's media reported anything that the CCP media couldn't later refute.

The CCP and all it's organs of state are a lying bunch of self-interested sycophants. The Tibetans deserve the support they are entitled too after being let down successively by Nehru and America in their hour of need back in the days after 1949.

@Mark Klein, please take heed of Bob S's comments as he is correct. You really have made a laughable comment on WWII - did you think that those characters after your name gave you some kind of credibility?

Sam H, Sichuan, China

Alex,

I rejoice that when I see these kind of things happening, it is the start of freedom.

Burma is on the way, and Tibet will be next. I have been in China 100 times in the last 5 years, and the people are amazing. Shame is that they are slaves to the system and cannot even imagine what it would be like to live without a monolithic entity running their lives. Gordon Brown should remember this too.

Nick, Bangkok ,

It shouldn't come as no surprise that now, all of a sudden, from behind the Great Fire-Wall of China there's people crowding these forums. It's shouldn't come as no surprise at all that all of these people defend the party line, and all of'm make the same mistakes in grammar, punctuation and spelling.
Poor lonely Tchang has been given a dial-up line by the Butchers of Bejing and now has to force their despicable views upon us.
Tchang; don't be confused. We will have Human Rights prevail over National Interests! There is more to Life and Humanity than Mammon, the current God of China.

Bob A. Schelfhout Aubertijn, Texel Island, The Netherlands

The truth is that Chinese government always tries every effort to support tibetan development of not only ecomony but also their culture. No doubt the Tibetan culture is still existing what it historically looks like. That is why there are so many visitors from all over the worlf still taking a tourism there nowadays. Chinese people goes there to do their bussiness just like Indian people come to GB to start their bussiness.

Finally if the western world would like to support Dalai Lama and his adherents, it means that you just care about the right of the minor nobilities but not the most majority of the people there. Actually the people there definitely lead a very peaceful and happy life there.

Katherine, Manchester, GB

We're all gonna love watching the Olympics, right? Mankind united and all that...................Politicians don their velvet gloves. Once again it all comes down to the simple truth- money rules the world.

Regina , Schoenenberg , switzerland

So why not having done the same thing when U was going to war against Irak??

Nico, paris, France

Tibet is a part of China forever.

ALEX, Beijing, China

I hope that China see that giving Tibet autonomy over culture and religeon can only be a good thing for all involved ... the Tibetans get what they want, and the Chinese government will have a world renowned area of cultural significance that will attract more and more tourists to the area, tourists who are then likely to go on and visit China.

Stephen Herbert, Manchester, GB

Tibetans who killed hun chinese are rioter, Pls west mediums tell people truths,Tibet belongs to China forever !

H-tao, Hamilton, NZ

@MARK KLEIN.
No Mark, you're wrong here. Qinghai may not be part of the Tibetan Autonomous Region [TAR], it has always been part of historic ethnic Tibet, and as such part of the area what is being refered to as "Greater Tibet".

Bob A. Schelfhout Aubertijn, Texel Island, The Netherlands

"In Qinghai province, to the north of Tibet and the birthplace of the exiled Dalai Lama..."

The selection of the current Dalai Lama was in violation of an agreement between China and Tibet that only a child born in Tibet proper could be selected. That plus Tibet's refusal to allow the American air force in WWII to set up weather and rescue stations in Tibet to aid resupply flights to beleagured China from India "over the hump" set the stage for the poisonous relations between the parties.

MARK KLEIN, M.D., Oakland, CALIFORNIA