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China has tried to shield its people from news of the travails of the Olympic torch relay through London and angrily condemned the protesters who tried to disrupt its route.
An official for the Beijing Olympic Games torch relay office voiced disgust at attempts by protesters opposing Beijing's drive to restore order in the Tibet region after riots last month and shootings of Tibetan demonstrators in the past week.
“A tiny number of Tibet independence elements sought to disrupt the relay of the Olympic Games sacred flame through London.” the official said. “We strongly condemn this vile behaviour.”
That tone was echoed today by Wang Hui, spokeswoman of the Beijing Games organising committee, as she placed the blame on protesters supporting independence for Tibet. “We strongly condemn the disruption of the torch relay by the Tibetan separatists,” she said.
“The torch belongs to the people of the world and these Tibetan separatists who dare to challenge the Olympic spirit will be condemned by the people of the world and are doomed to failure."
Few Chinese were aware of the demonstrators in London who threw themselves repeatedly into the path of the relay yesterday because state media - television and newspapers - have avoided mention of the incidents.
Chinese television showed only brief shots of the start and cut away from the relay for lengthy periods. Studio hosts and guests were shown discussing the Games. Newspapers hailed the relay and made briefest passing mention to protesters.
China was unable to avoid the controversy over Tibet even at home, however.
Jacques Rogge, president of the International Olympic Committee (IOC), said that he was very concerned by the international situation and what has happened in Tibet. “The International Olympic Committee has expressed its serious concern and called for a rapid, peaceful resolution of Tibet,” he said in a speech at the beginning of a three-day meeting of National Olympic Committee heads in Beijing.
He appeared to have words of warning both for Beijing and the protesters. He said: “Violence, for whatever reason, is not compatible with the values of the torch relay and the Olympic Games. Some people have played with the idea of boycotts. As I speak today, there is no momentum for a general boycott.”
The issue of how much freedom athletes will have to express their political views was a hot topic among national Olympic chiefs in Beijing today, and Rogge was expected to address these concerns this week.
Patrick Hickey, head of the Association of European National Olympic Committees, said: “I've spent 30 minutes talking to the IOC chief about this matter and he will make a comprehensive statement on Thursday morning about this issue.”
Some athletes have already spoken out in opposition to some of China's policies, particularly its alliance with the Sudanese Government and whether that has contributed to the violence in Darfur. However, athletes are bound by an Olympic charter that limits what they can say and do about political issues during any Games.
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Fred, San Diego, USA says:
"Olympic Games in China? Why not North Korea, Burma, or even Cuba for heavens sake! How about Somalia!
I say well done London and Paris!"
Dear Fred, you sounded very displeased. USA and your west have had your turn. Is it not fair that others have a chance. Who knows one day in the future North Korea, Burma, Cuba and Somalia will have their turn to host the Olympics. And I will look forward to that day.
Meanwhile I will be watching the greatest Olympic games ever to be held in the Great country CHINA.
So do not be a sour grape. Do join us in One World One dream.
Lim, Johor Bahru, Malaysia
"China has tried to shield its people from news of the travails of the Olympic torch relay through London"
It seemed as "Western Media hasn't tried to shield its people from news of the truth of the riot in Tibet through Lasha"
X.Wu, shanghai, China
China reported the demonstration in London during the torch relay on the national central TV broadcasting station, 10 pm evening news, on April 7th. That was 3 pm in London when the relay was still ongoing. I knew this because my parents called and asked me if I saw the demonstration myself, after they watched the news.
Admittedly the scenes of demonstration might not have been reported 10 years ago in China. However, things have been improving. Please give China government credit for this. Biased reporting does not help media censorship to get better in China.
A Chinese student in London, London, UK
Have you seen the absolut vodka ad in mexico, it looks like we the united states my be having some issues like china, in tibet they are using the same worlds like mexico "reconquista" the word means (reconquest) we need to look at how china controls tibet, we may need to learn from them, on how to control the anti-American sentiment coming from the millions of illegal mexican migrants and there descendants, in our own country, because i for one would never let my country go back to mexico, so i support the chinese, and the way they get things done, good luck China, and can't wait to see the olympics in your country, see not all americans are blind to the real world, we need to open are eyes as a people.
Ron Phillips, Hemet, USA, Ca.
It makes no sense to bar coverage in China, the more they show the more united in patriotism the Chinese will feel as they group together against the obvious hate thrown at them.
jeff, Manchester,
Get your facts rights before you protest-leave the chinese government to deal with its own domestic problems. There is no point in 'pressurizing' them so to speak by boycotting the Olympics because they wont and your acts are merely rendered as childish in their eyes. Look at it this way, when most of the countries and the UN objected to the Iraq war citing lack of evidence, did the US bother to hear the cries pertaining to human rights and peaceful dialogues? NOPE. So whats the big deal about Tibet?
As most of you have rightly pointed out, the population in china is close to 1.3 billion. Not the dismal millions but billions. A lot of us are really lucky because we have education and are privileged in many ways. So just let China be. Its not easy to impose democracy to a country of that size. The present political structure works in China so not every country must be run in a democratic order. In fact, the people in China are not suffering as what a lot of u say.
liz, Singapore,
Funny when those ppl keep talking bout human rights... and funny when we all know how CNN stops American from knowing the dark side of their country... i even studied that during uni... back in Sydney... dude, i wonder hv u guys ever read chinese newspapers... and i wonder why u guys believe a news block.. when now... even heckers from china can heck ur national defenive systems... u think they dun aware the outside world? God.... stone age is over.. wake up..
HH, HK,
To : Alien Hunter, Lubbock, TEXAS
1/ (DO NOT BUY ANYTHING MADE IN CHINA!!! ), pls keep your words, without your generous patronize, we CHINESE still can survive and moving forward. OK
2/ Your Americans totally have no rights to talk about HUMAN RIGHTS, your country invades and occupied Iraq just for OIL, OIL, OIL and nothing but OIL and also killing thousands of innocents, what is human rights?
Kam, Hong Kong, HKSAR
I didn't realise Chinese officials were so funny!
mark, reading, uk
Olympic Games in China? Why not North Korea, Burma, or even Cuba for heavens sake! How about Somalia!
I say well done London and Paris!
Fred, San Diego, USA
Western media always think what their people do is the best for rest of the world. While evaluating any country or anyone, it will be better if both the positive and negative facts are considered. There is lot of economic improvements in China under the same political structure. Millions are brought out of poverty by the same political structure. Why is not anyone talking about that? Is it some kind of fashion to talk only about some human right issue and isolated incidences. Chinese people can always have their opinion , if not as a demonstration. Most of the Chinese are happy with the present political structure which has done good for them. So why should others intervene?? Clean your own houses first.
Shankar, Dalian, China
What right do they have to condemn whatever happens to the flame? They don't even respect human rights! Just remember they have baby girls dying out of starvation. How absolutely gross and disgusting. The Olympics should be boycotted and all its administration sacked big time, how on earth can they allow this year's event if their job is to ensure the message portrayed in the Olympics is P E A C E. Get this useless Olympics administration out, and start paying a honest salary to who actually will do the job right. At the end, who's gonna laugh on the worlds face is China, because they filled their pockets with money, it's what it is all about at the end of the day. They wanted the Olympics thinking solely of their economy. Other countries do the same, it's true, but are also able to deliver a strong message/reason of the Olympics.
Carlos Rafael Ventura, London, UK
Jing,
Isn't that a little selfish of you? People are forced to have abortions, are paid a tiny amount to manufacture all the things we buy in this country, and are not free to live the way they please in China. People are not free in China. There is no free press in China. So you are just interested to have our press go into China where their Communist government says it's okay to go, to show you the Olympic games? Why doesn't the government there allow journalists show how things really are there everywhere other than just in the Olympic parks? Millions of people are suffering in China, and all you care about is watching a sporting event.
My friends, family and I won't be watching the Olympics.
Dee, Rockbridge, USA
This will be this generation's Berlin Games (1936), with the host nation manipulating sports to flex its collective political might on the world stage. And sadly, the appeasers - as in 1936 - will skip along to the song and dance.
Richard Coreno, Berea, OH
Would you want your precious Olympic Games even when they were in Nazi Germany? Would you still be saying lets not mix politics and Olympics while Hitler was killing people? Its the same thing with China.
David, New York City, USA
Shame to the disruptive protestors. Motivited by ignornace, the protestors are humiliating the Olympic, the 1.3 billion Chinese in China, and millions of Chinese oversea. How much do they know about Tibet history, and the recent development there? None
Tom
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China is not only VIOLATING TIBET but their own people as well. China MADE this political. Anyoen who thinks that the Olympic games are NOT political do not understand what life is about.
China,
FREE TIBET!!!
HOUSE THE HOMELESS YOU HAVE CREATED!!!
Three cheers for all the protestors!!! Add to the protest and DO NOT BUY ANYTHING MADE IN CHINA!!!
PROTESTORS UNITE until China recognizes HUMAN RIGHTS!!! We can make a difference!
Alien Hunter, Lubbock, TEXAS
i thank its great the olympics are in china, tibet is not are concern, what do you think we the USA would do if all the mexican immigrants, in california started rioting, and trying to get independence, it would be just like china, let china be
ron phillips, hemet, usa, ca.
Shame on the protesters! The people of England, and around the world have the right to see the olympic torch procession. THIS IS SPORTS, NOT POLITICS!!!
John, San Fransisco,
Hope that they are able to extinguish it.
Philip, Copenhagen, Denmark
In response to MW - brucec is closer to the truth than you are. In both cases, as long as your individual ideas don't clash with the ideals of the leaders of each movement (green or communism), it seems like you have some freedoms. See what happens when you voice opposition to either one, though - you get propaganda and abuse in response - sometimes with deadly force.
As little as you may like cheney / bush, you'll be free and unfettered tomorrow. The greens should learn to be so open-minded and tolerant as most of the non-greens are.
DW, PGH, PA/USA
When the chinese government allows their messages to get thru while removing the messages of others from the news, it not only smacks of dishonesty, non-transparency and cover-up, it is a distortion of the truth and facts, and that alone shows that they have no credibility at all. If as they say their actions are justified, why not report everything without censorship?
Denny Ablack, Port of Spain, Trinidad
In response to bruce, Green and Communist philosophy could not be further apart. Greens hold that each individual has worth.Communism comes from the top down, kind of like what we have in the US under Bush/Cheney. And China is hardly Communist at all, anymore. Communist theory does not approve of pimping out children to work in Nike sweatshops.
And to watch Chinese secret police beating protesters in England is unbelievable. I will not watch the Olympics, nor will I buy ANY products from the sponsors.
Hopefully, every athlete that competes will have a Tibetan flag on their person.
Michael Williams, Los Angeles, CA
We SHOULD boycott the games -- until China gets out of Tibet
Hero, Preston,
Wow! Good luck to the protestors! I wish I could be there to protest too! I'm not at all surprised that the media has been downplaying this as much as possible. The world needs to be continuously reminded of China's shameful record of oppressive communism and disregard for basic human rights!
Sarah, Washington DC, USA
Why be surprised when communists act like communists? When the greens secure total control of Europe they'll be doing it to those who refuse to be controlled as well. The greens and the reds belong to the same Marxist beast. The Chinese Communists came to power using exactly the same rhoetoric the greens use.
brucec, minneapols, usa / mn
i just want to watch the olympics .. lets not use politics and olympics together.. i support human rights in china but com'on now .. i wanna watch the olympics!!!!
JING, Boston MA, USA
If China didn't have such a HORRIBLE human RIGHTS record, and would let Tibet be free and not torture and kill peaceful people, perhaps there wouldn't be all these demonstrations!
Do you really think that this is happening only because of a few people are upset with the Tibet situation? GET REAL! It is only going to get worse. The Chinese bit off way more than they can chew, and should have never applied to host the Olympics in the first place. The Chinese government is getting all the trouble they deserve. Hah!
Cathy
USA
Cathy, Chicago, Illinois, USA
China's dictators can run from their appalling human rights record and history of cultural genocide in Tibet and elsewhere, but they can't hide. Despite the disgusting sight of Chinese secret police goons being allowed into British streets, free people were able to express their anger and frustration at China's bullying and intransigence. Good on them, and good on their colleagues in Paris, and everywhere else the flame will go.
Jacques Francis, Westcott,
Will, London - not sure what you're saying. Either you're trying to be funny and failing or.....? What have we British done THIS time?
Mike Orme, Windsor, Berks
Shame on Chinese media; shame on the Communist Party of China; shame on the Chinese Police. You ruin the substance of your nation with your vile repression and your pathetic clubbing and torturing of opponents to your one thought way of thinking. Your people are great but the oligarchical government of the 'People's' Republic of China is just another bunch of gangsters, no better than the petty warlords and emperors that ruled for thousands of years.
I hope the torch is put out again and again by free people everywhere. The PRC's masters deserve no less.
John, Geneva, Switzerland
The torch procession was going to be nothing more than Chinese propaganda and I for one was happy to see this event disrupted and the Tibet issue put onto the front pages. I don't condone violence and vast majority of the people demonstrating appeared to be doing so peacefully. I hope the Chinese government feels suitable ashamed, but I doubt it...
Duncan Hindle, Leeds, England
China as a country is nice, it's people are pleasant, BUT it is the few who are in power that are in the same league as Mugabe, Sadam Hussein & other dictators. They try to stifle the opposition.
If China thought it could wallpaper it's true colours with the Olympics it has made a grave mistake, as the worldwide deomonstrations where ever the olympic torch is going is just putting China's Real Face in the worlds headlines.
Whatever said, even by some of the British athletes, in todays economic world, you cannot ignore a country's behaviour, just because it is holding a sporting event. It is all intertwined.
al, London, UK
And Tiananmen square was...anything but vile?
Nick, Camden, London
Shame on British media, Shame on messy London central yesterday, you ruin your own country's image to billion Chinese. Really shame on you, British!
Will, london, uk
David (Murphy) - out of interest, which news programme did you see that on? It was cut out of the coverage I saw yesterday.
Beijinger, Beijing,
Get your facts right next time!..Chinese viewers were told the full facts of the demonstations in London on the news last night,and in Paris today!...I sat and watched it with my Chinese wife!......A disgusted Brit in China!
David Murphy, Chengdu,Sichuan Province, China
...and China knows what vile behaviour is....
kirk, Rotherham, UK
In this age of the power of the consumer making a difference, then there is one thing we can ALL do to make our voices heard on Tibet, and that is do not watch the games even for a second.
If done globally this could be the biggest protest ever mounted !
Its that easy
Stefan Basiuk, London,