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The Journey of Harmony planned by China for the Olympic torch began at last with its return home today to a rapturous welcome after an international odyssey disrupted repeatedly by pro-Tibet demonstrators.
However, the unrest in Tibet continued to cast a shadow over the Beijing Games. Representatives of the exiled Dalai Lama sat down with Chinese officials in southern China for their first talks since Tibetans chafing under Beijing rule rioted in the streets of the region’s capital, Lhasa, on March 14.
In rare public remarks on the Dalai Lama, Chinese President Hu Jintao said he hoped the meeting would lead to positive results. But his comments made clear that China wants Tibet’s traditional spiritual and temporal leader to give more ground in recognising that the Himalayan region is an integral part of China and not an independent entity.
President Hu said: “When determining a person’s position, we must not only listen to what he says but also watch his deeds. The door to dialogue has always been open. We sincerely hope the Dalai side can show through action that they have genuinely stopped separatist activities, stopped plots to incite violence and stopped sabotaging the Beijing Olympics.” Only such actions, said China’s president, who was once Communist Party boss of the restive region, would create the conditions for a next round of talks.
The talks, which began amid great secrecy in the southern boomtown of Shenzhen on the border with Hong Kong and are expected to last one or two days, are the first in about a year between the two sides. China announced this week that it was ready for the meeting, apparently bowing to growing international pressure to reach an accommodation with the Dalai Lama and halt popular anger in the West over its heavy-handed policies in Tibet.
The anti-Chinese protests that have rippled through swathes of Tibetan areas mark the most serious challenge to Beijing rule in the mountainous region for nearly two decades. The unrest triggered anti-China protests along the route of the Olympic torch around the world and brought calls for Western leaders to boycott August’s Beijing Games.
China’s Communist Party leaders appeared to feel the heat and offered the talks. But little progress is expected. The demand by President Hu for action fits with expectations that China wants the Dalai Lama to exert his influence to cool passions among the Tibetans, who remain deeply loyal to their God-king. That would ensure calm on the Roof of the World until after the Olympics.
After that, Beijing will expect to have regained control over the restive region and will feel scant pressure to make concessions that could lead to the return of the 14th reincarnation of the Ocean of Peace. The monk fled his homeland in 1959 after an abortive uprising against Chinese rule and has since lived in exile in northern India.
China continued to hurl invective at the Dalai Lama even as Lodi Gyari, the Dalai Lama’s representative in Washington and the main negotiator in previous rounds, sat down with vice ministers from the Communist Party’s United Front Work Department that is responsible for contacts with religious leaders and ethnic minorities. A commentary in the Tibet Daily, mouthpiece of the Tibet regional government, accused the Dalai Lama of being a “loyal tool of international anti-Chinese forces” and attempting to split Tibet from China.
The Dalai Lama insists he wants a high level of autonomy, not independence, for the predominantly Buddhist Himalayan region. He says he opposes violence and supports the Beijing Olympics. China says he is insincere.
Tenzin Taklha, a senior aide to the Dalai Lama, said: “We hope the Chinese are serious about the talks and we are hopeful that the Chinese are willing to look into the problems in Tibet.” Analysts say China is likely to be playing for time. Six rounds of talks between the two sides since 2002 have brought no progress in narrowing differences or any sign that China is ready to give ground in its rule over Tibet. The eruption of violence in Lhasa and demonstrations in dozens of other Tibetan cities that have embarrassed Beijing as it prepares to host the Olympics will harden China’s determination to win greater concessions from the monk it publicly reviles.
All the controversy was forgotten on the southern tropical island of Hainan, where the torch began its two-month journey through all of China’s provinces and regions including Tibet.
Chinese Olympic speed skating gold medallist Yang Yang was the first person to carry the torch. “I don’t believe this is real!” she enthused. “I have no way of describing how excited I am.” Thousands flocked to welcome the torch for a Games that most Chinese see as testimony to China’s arrival as a major player on the world stage. Games organisers said: “The sacred Olympic flame relay will have a ’Journey of Harmony’ through the land of China.” Protests are unthinkable.
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Tee, Singapore
This is not the forum for discussing the rights and wrongs of the situation in Iraq. If the only people entitled to criticize the policies of other countries are inhabitants of perfect societies then there would be no point having forums like this as no one would be entitled to post.
Mike, Nottm, GB
Mike, Nottm, UK
Isnt the UK a democracy? If so many Brits protested and are still against the Iraq war, why are your armies still there? Why is Tony Blair off scot free, making his millions on the lecture circuit? Please clean up your own backyard before telling anyone how to run their affairs.
Tee, Singapore,
Lim, Johor Bahru, Malaysia
No the US/UK should not have invaded Iraq, many did not support this war and we feel duped by the goverment and have protested.
But how is this relevant?, the bad actions of one country do not excuse the bad actions of another.
Mike, Nottm, UK
It would be great if comments could stick to the subject of this newspaper article instead of attempting to divert the argument into personal agendas and obsessions. Such tactics are an age old ploy and very easy to spot. Getting into a tit for tat argument is a tiresome waste of energy.
Boris, Belgravia, London
"Tibet is Chinese, has been since the 15th century and this 'God King' signed the 17 point agreement in 1951"
For most of its history Tibet governed itself, it was fully independent when the Chinese invaded. As for signing the 17 point agreement, did he have any choice?
Mike, Nottm, UK
Mike, Nottm, England
Mike u are being prejudgemental. If d Dalai side is serious, things could have been resolved long ago. They just want independence.The Dalai Lama is supported by a big power with funds and training. He is used to help destabilize China and hopefully be rewarded.
Lim, Johor Bahru, Malaysia
Jean Matthews, London, England
In the old days, boycott or sanctions might work. Today the world has changed. I have been reading news that Americans cannot afford not to have Chinese goods. It is the same elsewhere.
Anyway China has 1.4billion people and other countries support. U'll fail
Lim, Johor Bahru, Malaysia
Lei, Orono, Maine,
China has opened up and has made great advancement. Tibet was never neglected. But the West has seen fit to use Tibet and others to try to disrupt China's progress. Negotiation is no answer. Dalai needs to give up and let his people live in peace.
China must stand firm.
Lim, Johor Bahru, Malaysia
It is important to discriminate the present situation from the past of China, so just come to China to see the improved actual state.
Luo, guangdong, China
Mike, Nottm, UK
Has the US the right to invade Iraq and depose President Saddam Hussein? If you can answer this question, I will try to answer yours. You do have double standards in your way of thinking don't you?.
Lim, Johor Bahru, Malaysia
Tibet is Chinese, has been since the 15th century and this 'God King' signed the 17 point agreement in 1951. Only after eight years of being told to ban serfdom and untouchables did he finally run away without having done so. Buddhism is simply extortion disguised as religion. Come and see.
Pu Li, Guangxi, PRC
"Reincarnated" God-King"
The question is not what your opinion is of the institution of the Dalai Lama nor whether the Tibetans should go back to their previous 'medieval' system of government. The question is should the Tibetans have the right to govern themselves not be ruled as a colony by China
Mike, Nottm, UK
interesting what was said by Hu Jintao about when someone says something they should also watch their actions...does he mean tiannanmen square when his government denied it had murdered thousands of people, does he mean the denial of Mao being responsible for millions dying of starvation and more?
william gibbons, chengdu, china
Well, Jean Matthews, why stop there? Perhaps you could get your government to do another 'Iraq' and invade China? Sorry, I forgot. that China has over 200 ballistic nuclear missiles. It won't be as easy as the last time your country invaded China, will it? Back to boycotts then, right?
economist, Dubai, UAE
Just couldn't believe why westerners could actual believe in so called "Reincarnated" God-King - promotes peace and compasion while the very same man owned serfs & lived in a huge Palace in Tibet. To me as a buddhist, monk lives a simple life & owes nothing. If u dont know much stop commenting!
Boon, KL, Malaysia
When did few countries and their media outlets become The International Community and The World? Logically laughable?
Michael, Annandale,
If the communication shut down, and plead for understanding failed. China probably has to live in it own way.
AT the end of day, no one care about you but youself. The good thing is they have 1 biilion people, they can live in their own, have a happier life, as they have for more than 5000 years
Lei, Orono, Maine,
The Chinese are just playing for time with these talks, they have no intention of actually changing their policies.
They will have their precious Olympics but they will gain no respect in the international community by their actions.
Mike, Nottm, England
I dont believe anything short of a boycott of Chinese goods and some strong action by Western governments will lead to any end to the savagery and exploitation of Tibet by the communist government...they are simply playing for time...they are a disgrace..
Jean Matthews, London, England
Let us hope that President Hu Jintao will rise to the task by showing statesman like qualities. So far China has fired off nothing but unfounded accusations and nonsense at the Dalai Lama. This meeting will be reported globally and the eyes of the world are watching.
Boris, Belgravia, London