Richard Dixon: Behind the story
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Key to policy at The Times on the usage of place names is that they are adjudged to be recognisable to a majority of our readers. After the events that started on Wednesday the name Mumbai has been used extensively in other media to which our core British readership is exposed. It would be foolish to ignore that context. We also have a global online audience to consider.
We will be changing our style from December 1, so that we use Mumbai for the city that we have previously referred to as Bombay. On occasion, it will be appropriate still to use a phrase such as “formerly known as Bombay”. In the meantime we will adopt a formula that talks of “Bombay, also known as Mumbai”.
We will carry on considering place names, case by case, in a pragmatic way. So, in the Indian context, we will continue with Calcutta and Madras unless and until there appears to be an equally strong case for change.
The linguistic heritage of what we will call Mumbai will live on in references to Bombay duck, Bombay gin and, of course, Bollywood.
Richard Dixon is chief revise editor of The Times
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The problem with words like 'original' and 'from the start' is that they are too vague. People name places, when they take over the land. What was Bombay called originally before it was first called Mumbai?
As long as the name Bombay is reconisable, the British press should remain with it.
Kevin, Oxford,
Seems that Bombayites prefer Bombay to Mumbai. In fact they tend to laugh at the Mumbaikers with their ridiculous pretensions.
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Billy Barnett, HK,
Firstly, the reason the french call London Londres is because London in french means London. Whereas Bombay is NOT the english word for Mumbai. ...
devi, surrey,
Mumbai was the cities original name, until the Arabs took charge of India and decided it was upon themselves to change the name to 'Al Omanis'. Next came the Portuguese renamed it as 'Bom Bahia' and then the Britons who derived the name Bombay. After the gain of independance Bombay was renamedMumbai
devi, surrey,
I have worked in India, based in Trivandrum. The city officially reverted to its former name and all the road/airport signs say Thiruvananthapurum, but I never met any local people who referred to it as anything over than Trivandrum.
Rosemary, Goring by Sea, UK
Well, why do a large number of INDIANS in that city still call it Bombay? It was renamed by a local nationalist party. It was founded as and will always be Bombay.
Richard, London, United Kingdom
Why? English people call it Bombay, just as the French talk about 'Londres'. When are we going to stand up for ourselves.
jane, izmir, turkey
Why we say Germany and not Deutschland, Georgia (in the Caucasus) and not Sakartvelo, Finland and not Suomi, Prague and not Praha? Political correctness. The Indians or Burmese can call their cities what they wish, but we should retain in English Bombay and Rangoon.
Ivan, London, UK
Nicholas, I would suggest that the difference with those examples and Mumbai, is that Mumbai has (in many areas a predominantly) english speaking population which calls it Mumbai.
toast, Manchester, eng
What does it matter what you call the place as long as the readers know what you mean?
Michael, Buffalo, New York, United States
Whilst you are at it, why don't you start calling Cologne - Koln, Hamlin - Hameln, Padua - Padova, Venice - Venezia and so on, or could it just be some PC hypocricy?
Nicholas Moody, Northallerton, England
You should have been calling it Mumbai from the start just like everyone else. Not doing so shows you up in a bad light, you can't hide behind some excuse about catering to your readership which is an insult to them as well come to think of it, the days of empire and the colonies are over boys...
John Kench, Chelmsford, UK