Dean Nelson, Mumbai
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THE Indian authorities yesterday claimed to have proof that the Mumbai terrorists were receiving instructions from Pakistan and discussing tactics with their handlers during the three days of attacks in which they killed at least 195 people.
The claims threaten further to embitter relations between the two nuclear powers. Tensions have been high since confirmation that the only captured gunman was a 21-year-old Pakistani.
It has also emerged that India had been warned that terrorists were planning an attack in Mumbai.
Up to 22 foreigners were among those killed in raids by 10-15 terrorists on sites across the city, including hotels, the main railway station, a Jewish community centre and two hospitals. The last of the gunmen was killed by Indian commandos yesterday morning, ending the siege at the Taj Mahal Palace hotel. One hotel worker was found alive and 22 bodies were removed. As many as 80 bodies may still be in the building.
One Briton has been confirmed dead and last night the Foreign Office refused to say whether more UK citizens could be among the victims in the wreckage of the hotel.
RR Patil, the deputy chief minister of Mumbai’s state government, said there was “proof” that the terrorists were on the phone to someone in Pakistan during the attack.
“All phone calls made by them were tapped. They were being instructed from outside regarding their movement inside the hotel - whether to go upstairs or come down or make a move left or right,” he said.
Patil also claimed that the terrorists had intended to kill at least 5,000 people, making for a greater atrocity than 9/11.
The Pakistan government denied any involvement in the attacks but backtracked on a decision to send the chief of its spy agency to India to help the investigation. Asif Ali Zardari, Pakistan’s president, promised to take the “swiftest of action” if there was evidence the terrorists came from his country.
Yesterday the Indian authorities firmly denied reports that up to seven of the attackers were British. Intelligence sources in the UK said they were unaware of any evidence that British nationals were involved.
Police chiefs in Mumbai confirmed they had been aware as long ago as January that the Pakistan-based militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba was planning a terrorist spectacular.
The information came from Fahim Ansari, a captured operative for the group, who revealed under interrogation that he had carried out reconnaissance visits to the Taj and Oberoi hotels.
CCTV footage revealed that Ansari had visited the Oberoi. Both hotels said they had received warnings as recently as August about an attack and had stepped up security.
The Indian authorities intercepted a telephone call made from the Arabian Sea less than two weeks ago in which a terrorist suspect was heard saying “we’re coming to Mumbai”.
The Indian coastguard was alerted but Ajmal Aamer Kasav, the surviving gunman, is understood to have told his interrogators the terrorists had switched ships to evade detection. Kasav, who speaks fluent English, told investigators he and his fellow terrorists had trained at a camp at the Mangla dam between Pakistani Punjab and Pakistan-held Kashmir.
The group had travelled in pairs to Karachi where they boarded a boat. They had been told not to talk to each other on the journey.
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dear mark how can you say this.first when soviet union captured Aghanistan americans asked so called al-qaeda and taliban to do jihad.they provided them with wepons and trained them and told the world that they are heroes.pakistan warned them but they didnt listned.,
mohsin, islamabad, pakistan
Pakistan is known for the islamic terrorism world wide. It is stupidity on the part of the Zardari to say that Mumbai attackers are stateless while the whole world know where they are from. Stop playing games and work with india to sort this out once for all. before paying penalty
siva, london, uk
Sur Par,
Im a British Muslim, i will always be a British Muslim, terrorism is wrong and i believe Ghandi had the right idea. But i would never deny my religon or pass off as a hindu, never in a million years, i think most muslims would agree! But if it makes you feel better believe what you want
Marcus, London,
I have been reading the Quran lately with my muslim friends, have found it to be a peaceful religion, it tells us as how to be a good human being.
Fact that these terrorists ,have killed innocents in the name of Islam is very demeaning to the religion they claim to follow.
agcapri, Hyderabad, India
It is time for the international community to identify and put countries known to house or export terrorism under international control and supervision.One such country is pakistan.There should be a protocol imposed on the country so that its own people wean and weed out miscreants amongst them.
jaswinder ahluwalia, kuala lumpur, malaysia
From all media accounts none of the miltants spoke or used any Islamic words or phrases, plus the group that is accused has denied any involvement. Groups such as that are happy to take credit so it makes no sense for them not to. Something is very fishy about this whole thing. Even how they spoke.
Sidney, Houston, USA
Mr Mark, Osama is Saudi, Ayman is Egyptian, Dawood is Indian and LeT is kashmiri. Plus most of the other terrorists aren't pakistani either. If they are hiding in caves where even the top US and NATOforces cant find them, how do you expect volatile pakistan to deal with them? Indian intel faileure!
shah, London, UK
I write as a professional now living in Mumbai, these atrocities come at a time when Indian condfidence was as its highest, nations across the globe have confidence in India and its economic policies.
Resentment at its success by killing innocent people will not further any cause.
Dina, Mumbai
Dina Dattani, Mumbai, India
Why do you follow the media blindly ?
Where were all the muslims before 911 ? why didnt anyone hate them ? Well america is a super power they do what they want, they did 911, blamed it on muslims, now india an old enemy of Pakistan blames it on Pakistan. America with india, first iraq , now Pak.
Asim, Liverpool, United Kingdom
Had west listened to India 15 years ago this, and most terror activites would not have happened. UK and US were in love with Pakistan. Even now BBC is still biased towards Pakistan. West only tried to go against Pakistan when it came to their shore. These camps in Pakistan should be destroyed.
sanket, london,
Check here for faridkot:
http://www.maplandia.com/pakistan/punjab/multan/faridkot/
Just because its not there in google maps doesnt mean it doenst exist :-).
Sam Anderson, Peshawar, Pakistan
Very doubtful. What can Pakistan achieve from the attack?It neither did any good to the resolution of Kashmir issue,nor claimed world-wide sympathy.Why did Pakistan ,in its infinite wistom , insist to do so?
Chang, Toulous, France
D K Milbury would not know a Hindu symbol if it hit him in the face. Interesting stereotyping of South Indian physique. Akin to suggesting that all Americans are fat slobs. Faridkot is in Pakistan - use better and more detailed maps of the region than google.
Dipesh Patel, London, United Kindgdom
As for you, Milkbury. They were TOLD to wear the string on their hands and the tikka on their foreheads. It doesnt mean they were Indian. And he is definately NOT of South Indian physique. He actually appears more Bangladeshi, but his features are also very 'Pakistani' due to their sharpness.
Gaurav, Sydney, Australia
Mr.Milbury,
Many places share the same names in India and Pakistan, like Cambridge between US and UK; Hyderabad in Pak and India. There is a reason military does not use Google for its information.
Mr.Sidebottom,could the UK face that UK born Muslims hit the London subway? Please don't be a saint.
Subra, London,
Mr Milbury,
1. Several sections of the media have reported that the gunmen tried to pass themselves off as Hindus, using religious thread obtained from the trawler they hijacked.
2. Faridkot also happens to be a place in Multan, Pakistan.
3. What exactly is a South Indian physique?
Dilip, Mumbai, India
Guys for everything that goes wrong you cannot blame Pakistan for it and the so called terrorists in Pakistan where freedom fighters when they were fighting against USSReveryday in Pakistan innocent people are killed in Pakistan by US raids o oneever talks about them,what happened in Mumbai is wrong
Hamza, Manchester, UK
Give me a break DK. Do you expect the terrorrists to come in their traditional dress with IDs all over them ? Event the 9/11 terrorists were wearing a decent western wear and were speaking good english. Does that mean that you will treat them as "Americans" and call 9/11 act as internal issue ?
Mike Atherton, New York, USA
Kevin -- One chap from Pakiston, however if he himself tells they were from Pak and got trained and support from the militant organisations based out of Pak, then you guys still require the other dead militants alive to ascertain where they came from and were trained... funny
Villy, Chicago, US
D. K. Milbury, --- How reliable is your google maps? Just because google got entire US on net, that doesn't mean all the villages of Pakistan (as well as India) are located on google. We will give thousands of names of Indian villages which you will never find on google map... Go figure out
Villy, Chicago, US
Hello there,
I have seen so many bloody attacs done by muslim terrorists in city Hyderabad Deccan,India. 60 years ago the muslim kings who ruled in this area forcefully converted Hindus into Muslims if refused they killed thousands of Hindus. It is true Pakistan trained terrorist still in India.
Bhaskar Reddy, Toronto, Canada
i think it is too early to accuse pakistan and i do not think that pakistan is involved because a couple of days before these horrible attack the pakistani government wanted to strengthen theri relationships with pakistan also deccan is in india i think the indians have the same problem as pakistan
kahloon, lampeter, uk
what a joke?
mithilesh, boston, u.s.a.
D K Milbury suggests that the captured terrorist was wearing a hindu symbol on right wrist-which is a ploy to reduce suspicion as most muslims do not want to be identified as Muslims today.
What a shame for Islam.
Many Pakistani busineesmaen nowadays falsely identify themselves as Indians.
sur pars, London, UK
how does it matter if he was pakistani or not? even if he was getting orders from pakistan, it doesn't mean the Pakistani govt was supporting him. terrorism is a common enemy both for India and Pakistan, the govts must try their best to co operate and subdue it.
lavanya, Gurgaon,
I am amazed that people are still debating whether the people who involved in this massacre are really from India or neighbouring country. How can such small group plan and cause this destruction with out active help and training from professional agencies such as police and military
mohan, woodruff, usa
Milbury of USA, this shows your ignorance. These terrorists were wearing Hindu symbols because they wanted to show off to the Indian coast guards as Hindus. This has been confessed by the lone terrorist who is alive. Pak can't continue to keep cheating for long in this war against terror.
Sudhir, Bangalore, India
Dear Milbury,
Please do a proper search for Faridkot, or else click here:
http://www.maplandia.com/pakistan/punjab/multan/faridkot/
The rest of your observations need no comments, for you guys wont learn, or else 20 years is a LONG time...
Multani, Hyderabad,
Hi Kevin of London
I think that bush called it winning a trifecta or something like that.
Tyrone, Redding, USA
This is no doubt a very sad thing to have happened in India. But the fact of the matter is that Pakistani's are ashamed and embarrased when such attacks are linked to Pakistan. A few illiterate frustrated minority do not represent the rest of Pakistan or its nationals. India must understand this.
Afsar, London, UK
The Captured Gunman's photos show him wearing a Hindu religious symbol on his right wrist.
It was claimed he came from "Faridkot" in Pakistan. Aquick search of Google maps shows there is no such town in Pakistan, although Faridkot is in India.
One look at him shows he is of South Indian physique.
D. K. Milbury, New York, U.S.A
Agree with Mike.
Even if there was one chap from Pakistan, it doesn't mean the rest were, oh they killed most of them.
Kevin Sanders, London,
Mr Mike Sidebottom might next suggest that 9/11 was also a propaganda becos Bush "just"managed to win the election and needed public support. Shame on such people who politicize real life tragedies in this manner. The fact - terrorists are hiding in Pakistan and govt there is not able to stop them!
Ananth, London, UK
i wouldnt be surprised if pakistan had some involvement in this. pakistan needs to be sorted out. its a pity they have nukes tho since this give them political advantage they do not deserve. lets remember this also when iran seeks nukes. they too should not be allowed to have them.
david, london, uk
The glib Pakistani (Musharraf) establishment fooled the Bush administration for the last 7 years by capturing and handing over one terrorist every 6 months while LeT, Osama, Ayman, Dawood are still active in Pakistan, protected by the Army (ISI)and tribals, in return for billions $$ and miliatry aid
Mark, Kansas,
Nothing new. Pakistan has been the breeding ground of global terrorism.
Tim Arthur, London, UK
Its all a propoganda, India cannot face the fact that this terrorism attack was carried out from individuals from there country. India is a growing economy and the Indian government are pointing the finger towards pakistan for closure. The fact is terrorism is a risk all over the world.
Mike Sidebottom, Birmingham,