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The Islamic fundamentalists who run the Markaz-e-Taiba complex near Lahore like to boast that it was inspired by Aitchison College, Pakistan's poshest private school. It is, as they describe it, the Eton of Wahhabi Islam, complete with polo ponies and a swimming pool.
Yet when it comes to their links to Pakistan's intelligence service and Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT), the militant group blamed for last month's attacks in Mumbai, they seem to suffer from collective amnesia. “We've never had any connection to either,” Mohammed Abbas, the administrator of the complex, told The Times.
But it was here, in April 2001, that Hafiz Mohammed Saeed, LeT's leader at the time, called a meeting of his supporters in the 75-acre complex of red-brick buildings and neat lawns. Most of the visitors wore the obligatory long beards, but among them was an elderly man with no beard, only a thin, military-style moustache.
He was Hamid Gul, the former head of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) agency. “Yes, I visited there,” General Gul told The Times. “Retired army officers used to go, too. They used to hold annual fixtures to raise funds and motivate people.”
General Gul, 72, was the ISI chief from 1987-89 and had long since retired by 2001. Since the attacks in Mumbai, however, such meetings have added weight to India's assertion that Pakistani intelligence has close ties to LeT and other militant groups involved in attacks on Indian soil.
Pakistan's Government is under unprecedented international pressure to sever any such links and “rein in” an intelligence agency that is widely regarded as a law unto itself. Indian officials say that the ISI was complicit in Mumbai, and that the one captured militant has confessed to receiving training from a former ISI officer.
Washington wants four former ISI officers, including General Gul, to be added to the UN terrorist list. Senator John Kerry, the new head of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, also made a direct appeal to President Zardari on a visit to the region last week. “It is imperative that the intelligence service of Pakistan [is not able] to make its own choices or operate outside of the standards that we have a right to expect,” Mr Kerry said.
The question is whether Mr Zardari is strong enough to comply: the ISI vetoed his efforts to place it under the Interior Ministry and to send its chief to India after the Mumbai attacks. Many Pakistanis also feel that the Government cannot comply without undermining their strategic interests in Kashmir and Afghanistan.
The ISI makes no secret of its former support for LeT and other militants as proxies to fight Indian rule in Kashmir and to offset India's influence in Afghanistan. “These jihadis were there and we supported them. I think any intelligence agency worth its name would have done the same,” one senior ISI officer told The Times.
His next remark summed up much of today's relationship between the ISI and the likes of LeT: “It's a monster we created and now we can't get it back in the bottle.”
The ISI had forged ties with jihadist groups throughout the 1980s when the CIA used it to support the Mujahidin against the Soviet Army in Afghanistan. When an uprising began in Indian-ruled Kashmir in 1989, the ISI saw an opportunity to weaken its neighbour. General Asad Durrani, ISI chief from 1990-92, denied supporting LeT in his tenure, but admitted that Pakistan had an interest in supporting such groups. “Given Kashmir's history, we can't be expected to remain uninterested,” he said.
The ISI officially severed links with LeT in 2002 after the group attacked India's Parliament, but Indian and US intelligence believe that it maintained covert support, probably through ex-ISI officers. Generals Gul and Durrani and the serving officer all admitted that some retired ISI agents may have shared the ideology of the militants.
All three said that it would be impossible to channel serious support to militants from inside or outside the ISI without the knowledge of the agency's leadership. As for the Mumbai attacks, they said that it was not in the ISI's interests to antagonise Washington and provoke another conflict with India during an economic crisis.
Many Indian and Western analysts agree, saying that the ISI probably trained LeT militants but was not directly involved in Mumbai. “There almost certainly are still ISI links to LeT, but the question is how much operational control does the ISI have?” Lisa Curtis, a former CIA analyst and South Asia expert at the Heritage Foundation, said.
She and other experts are urging Mr Zardari to appoint a civilian head of the ISI and dismantle all the militant groups it has supported. The ISI is unlikely to accept either solution until the international community also addresses Pakistan's concerns in Kashmir and Afghanistan. “Cleansing the ISI is America's dream, but this is Pakistan's first line of defence,” said General Gul. “It keeps the country united.”
Controversial ISI leaders
Hamid Gul 1987-89: admits ties to LeT leadership; banned from travel to Britain
Asad Durrani 1990-92: admits support for militant groups; fierce critic of US
Javed Nasir 1992-93: now belongs to an Islamic missionary movement
Nasim Rana 1995-98: began arming and training the Taleban in Afghanistan
Ziauddin Butt 1998-99: maintained close relationship with the Taleban government
Mahmood Ahmed 1999-2001: dismissed under pressure from the US after the September 11 attacks because of his Taleban links
Ashfaq Parvez Kayani 2004-07: favoured by the US, went on to become current Army chief
Ahmad Shuja Pasha 2008: formerly oversaw operations against militants in northern Pakistan
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yes ppl will die any way . all have to die , i wish to die amongst the less previliged , who are fighting for the right , the rigt to live peacefully, under their choice of government , under the law whichis suitable to them , no alien system can exist ,my friends have rightnot to follow that,which,
wang, dalian, china
History will judge the role of the US , EU, China (all affected by terrorism) in the crisis that is looming large in the sub-continent. Will they just make noises & cover their flanks or act responsibly & decisively to take terrorism head on?
M.Srinath Reddy , Hyderabad , India
lies, lies lies, that is all the world is getting from Pakistan. The Mumbi terrorist's own farther identified him, yet still Pakistan tries to claim no links to their country.
GROW UP Pakistan! do you really think the world is so badly educated that we believe this non-sense?
Barry, woking, GB
Just because of these terrorists, poor innocent pakki people who is going to suffer a lot either by world pressure (recession or by war). All these political/army/ISI/terrorist officers may settle with wealth in hand and safe guard from terrorists in abroad, pls pakki's wake up, say 'NO' to terror
san, lahore, pakistan
sam of RESTONin the USA,kindly note 9/11 fellows were arabs and most of them got their training in the USA,places like Florida,and not in pakistan. non of them was a pakistani or afghanior iraqi,the 3 countries you are at war in.USA was the patron of Talibans and isi their minder on behest of patron
muhammed shafiq, manchester, u.k
People chill! Let's look at this! 9/11 reports start breaking that Bin Laden done it! Everyone caught on with the story and the media ran with it! Hey they even found one of the guys passports in the rubble! What a "miracle".
Now reports emerged that L-e-T done these attacks! Its all a blame game!
Asif Sarfraz, London, England
The US invaded Afghanistan because it harboured a terrorist group that launched a major attack on US territory. Pakistan harbours a terrorist group that launched a major attack on Indian territory. I see an incomplete analogy here. Oh, and Pakistan has nuclear weapons.
Tito Vecchi, Ferrara, Italy
if not ISI then who else will talk and meet with internal agencies.... It is the Govt. responsibilty to take care & keep an eye on every one... then whats wrong in it... if Govt. will not make another independent resource then i would say RA or CIA will contact with them... Isn't hard to believe??
ahmed, Lahore, Pakistan
Every state has an Army. ISI owns a state. What was clearly a Hate India movement is now a global terrorist movement and Pakistan is now exporting terrorism across the globe.Let wisdom prevail and let Pak join the world to fight terror. It will be good for it in the years ahead.
Chandra Mouli, Chennai, iNDIA
But the difference is CIA packed bags and flew away, but ISI had to live with these extremists as neighbors. These extremists had successfully defeated Soviet Union in 1980s and brought end to COLD WAR. So to blame Pakistan alone is only 50% accurate.
sam, sac, sac
Pakistan has becom FIDAYEEN state they does not know they are playing with fire. on the one side they are near BANKKRUPT on the other side they are trying to BLACKMAIL india and usa with their ATOMIC weapon.
shelesh sharma, panchkula, india
Excellent propoganda. I like the technique of critic and foldings of story to interlink matters. And force your target to involve in your aurticle and engage him in such manners that he come on your selected ground and your selected game to play as per you choice.
Great technique....
Shahid, Lahore, pakistan
ISI has become a Frankenstein. From Gen Zia to the present they are the perpetrators of terrorism. Its a known fact, but while the world seems to sweep it under the carpet India wont and very soon there would be a civil war in Pakistan. Their frontier provinces will break away.
Bob, Kerala , India
The Indians played a similar game to this in Sri Lanka. They virtually created and trained the LTTE - the Tamil Tigers. The idea was to de-stabilize successive Sri Lankan governments. Eventually Indian PM Rajiv Gandhi was killed by a Tamil Tiger suicide bomber. The monsters you make eat you alive!
James Mason, Dubai, UAE
After Mumbai Attack if US or UK should have realize the aim of these terror groups and their hate they have for westerners including India. India is soft attack for them because they are considering India as US's partner and they are trying to break the relation by doing all this.
Hiten, Boston, US
Why can't the US act?
Remember that the USA 9/11 attackers were trained in Pakistan. Pakistan was the major supporter of the Aghan Taliban government. The most dangerous country in the world in terms of terrorism is Pakistan.
When is the world going to act?
Sam, Reston, USA
@SAM, Haynes, UK
Taleban were brain child of CIA to fight against Soviets in Afghanistan. The operation was surely executed through ISI but this does not absolve CIA of any liability. This and many other Frankensteins haunting world today were created by American Establishment.
Khurram Malik, Karachi, Pakistan
Only evident outcomes of this - next army coup and unsustainable bankruptsy in the offing .With ruled out third party bail out for want of compliance .China, with its exports and outsourcing domains to shrink much faster 2009 will add further distress to debt scenario in Pak, to pay price.
Rajnish, Delhi, India
We should not conveniently forget history which does not comfort us.
ISI and CIA created these so called Islamic militants. Jhadi literature was printed in Pakistan and USA to support the war effort against Soviet Union. Jimmy Carter called these militant leaders heroes of century in white house
SAM, SAC, SAC
Pakistan's denying what the world sees is true will lead to India defending itself. It begs the question:why is Pakistan baiting India;not taking responsibility for a problem unequivocally Pakistan's?Is war what Pakistan intends?Against India and its allies,the US,UK,China,Russia? Islam vs. world?
Daryl Atamanyk, Victoria, Canada
Why is world community not acting or UN not taking any strong action aginst Pakistan's ISI which continues to harbour terrorists and talibans till date. Why world has forgotten that taliban were ISI's brain child.
Sam, hayes, U.K