When I started reading this piece I thought that it was interesting that some dinosaurs died in a small area, apparently at the same time or similar period Now I find that it has degenerated into an argument between creationists and evolutionists. Can't we just look at the facts before we get into religious type arguments, which, like politics, can never be resolved and always degenerate into name-calling exercises.

Fred Lovett, Linguaglossa , Italy

a lot more humility, a lot less hubris. not a one of us can grow another inch on command, or make our feet leave the ground.
centuries ago, we started out in simplistic,ignorant bliss, and have been fortifying the framework around that hulking monster ever since. there is no "simple cell'. there are no "primitive life forms". there was always super-complexity from the getgo. who the hell are these guru's of the scientific institution who tell you see/hear/speak no evil, and ignore the man behind the curtain? wrongheadedness then leads to wrongheadedness now. do science, yes, and remain within your ken. don't give me metaphysics,religion, or dogma. and until you show me the means by which an animal can be preserved 60-80-100'sm.y., virtually intact,(suspended animation??), i'll have to believe the great Tinker-er bell did it.i don't need to be religious to see that something is desperately wrong here.guess i gotta go back to the darwin re-education camp for proper orientation.

troy martin, southfield, mi

2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

Obviously the Bible was here before evolutionism.I'm sticking with the Bible.Believe what you want to but a life with Christ in heaven sounds much more enjoyable than a cold dead grave of eternal nothingness.

Will, Roberta,

Hi from Seattle where it flooded yesterday ... yet here I am. If God's Flood happened, where are the great piles of human remains? Surely we would have found a cache by now? Would not there be evidence of this global catastrophe in the form of human remains? Or is a global event such as The Flood fall exempt from needing physical evidence as it is a faith-based issue? Faith is one thing. Science another. Both require belief. But neither can survive with out questioning.

Leslie, Seattle, Washington

Well said DJ.

Tony, Seattle, WA / USA

DInosaurs were documented by the ancient man by various drawings. Dinoglyfs, they are:
http://www.helsinki.fi/~pjojala/dinosaur.htm

Pauli, Helsinki, Finland

Ya, know, Scientists have always been puzzled by these mass graves, but there is a rather apparent answer (for some cases). It all revolves around herd mentality. National Geographic reported earlier this year on a herd of Waterbuffalo in Zimbabwe that stampeded and while crossing a raging river over 2500 animals drowned and washed up on a riverbank more than a mile downstream. Of course when the waterbuffalo stampeded so did the other animals that graze alongside them; zebras, gazzels...and a few them drowned as well. I mean we can state that as one reason, or another is that dinosaurs, like elephants will/would retreat to certain locals to die. I'm sure theological ideas hold some truth for certain races of man, but this stuff occures on a global scale. It's not ignornace of religion that leads people to seek alternative answers for cases such as this. It is merely noticing patterens that occur every day in nature, and assuming that those same patterns occured in the past.

Jack, Seattle,

new reasons for their extinction: anyone ever consider a world wide flood?

Robert ODonnell, Woodstock, GA/USA

I think the palaeontologists should be left-alone to do there work without the bias from people's insecurities and beliefs!

DJ, sydney,

Come on, face the facts:
Satan put the bones in the ground to trick us.
The Ark held two of every animal in the whole world, and they all were friends and didn't fight or eat one another. In fact they didn't even go the the bathroom the whole time just to be nice.
So I guess that make me a monkeys, er, great-grandson.

Mike S, Santa Cruz, California

You guys realize that claiming the bible as fact based on large amount of animals being found buried together is completely retarded right? Simple answer: FLOODS HAPPEN ALL THE DAMNED TIME IN THIS DAY AND AGE. Thus one can logically conclude that they happened back then too, correct? Who is to say there wasn’t a flood some 80 million years ago that washed them away and buried them in some muck? A lot more believable than anything else, hell look at all of those hurricanes that happen in the southern united states that wash/blow people away that are unfortunate enough to get caught out in it. who is to say that some group of people wont get washed out to the ocean some day deposited somewhere, and then future generations or hell some other intelligent species creates a religion that purely stupid and finds those bodies that were washed out in a simple hurricane. Then they fit it into their stupid myth, and what you're doing and it’s freaking dumb, stop it.

Josh, Chatfield,

The idea that anything in the Bible could be construed as science or even factual is so rife with fallacy that only willful stupidity and/or ignorance could believe it.

bryan, Seattle, USA / WA

Until scientists accept that all these creatures were destroyed in the flood around 4500 years ago they will never figure it out.

Why do you think the Grand Canyon's sedimentary layers supposedly millions of years old (?) form perfectly straight lines for hundreds of miles showing absolutely no erosion in between layers - because the millions of years are fantasy.

Chris, Cork, Ireland

Obviously, uniformitarianism is threatned witth these kind ofo scientific finds.

Upon find such fossils, we should ask ourselves: Which geological model best fits the evidence? "Slow and gradual" or Biblical catastrophism?

Countless dinos found in the same spot and looking as if they were buried in a rush. hmmm... The only thing missing in that report are the words "giving more evidence to the Biblical claim of a world wide deluge".

Seems like Lyell and Hutton were wrong, and the Bible is right.

Mats, Lisbon, Portugal

I am pretty confident that the standard scientific explanation for the fossil record is the one which most closely accounts for what we see in rocks of different ages. Science is a search for explanations of how the world works - so advances in medicine, success in prospecting for oil and minerals, the development of new materials which we all use in the modern world etc etc is pretty strong evidence that the scientific method works. Why abandon such a powerful tool which the human race has at its disposal and resort to superstition? Sure we can go back to a mediaeval world view but what advantages would that bring us?
Millions of Christians can accept evolution as part of God's plan (I'm atheist myself but as a scientist I must accept the possibility that I could be wrong) so why must creationists insist that they alone are right. What makes them so special, so right? History is full of people who 'knew' they were right - often with awful consequences for society.

Alan Bowring, Abergavenny, Wales

thankyou to the saved for pointing out the error in my thinking there was me beleiving that this a fantastic find of information from 80 or so million years ago when really it proves beyond a doubt gods wisdom in destroying these sinful creatures that were around when enoch was a boy.thanks again for reminding me bronze age tent dwellers knew far more about the earth than modern science. and that all animals lived a short walk from noah's house. Verily this will allow me to dismiss these fantasies of ice ages, the earth going rounde the sun and the universe being more than 6 thousand or so years old

pinky, northampton, england

A great find which once again shows the bible is a history book. To have masses of complete skeletons means that these animals would have been killed together and quickly smothered or else predatory animals would have torn them apart and scattered the bones, like usually happens if a carcass is left on the surface of the ground. Bodies floating will bloat and fall apart.
The herd of titanosaurus could have being engulfed by a local or worldwide catastrophic event, and mud would be key in protecting/ preserving the bodies until petrification happened.

This is good science. bad science is when you choose to ignore what is staring you in the face and try to come up with theories, anything will do so long as you don't mention the bible as literal history. Come on, loads of scientists know this. Even my children could explain this heap of bones.

Chris Leathers, Hitchin, Herts

I do not know why they are digging to get this information. God decided to kill these monsters off, and we should not meddle in what He has done.

This is dangerous, and against the will of our Lord. We are asking questions He does not want us to ask.

John, Judea,

Troglodad, Carbon-14 dating isn't useful for dating dinosaurs, as they're much older. Did you ever consider your ignorance might be showing?

Pete, London,

What a fascinating scientific discovery - I look forward to reading about the detailed results when they're in.

But it's a shame that creationists seem to swamp these stories with their silly flood myths, and ignore 200+ years of geology and palaeontology, while selectively misusing genuine science (or inventing pseudo-scientific) results.

paul newbold, sheffield, uk

Hmmm.. so carbon dating is a FACT. And a living snail was carbon-14d to be 2,300 years old. Does that mean if I can get carbon-14 dated to be over 65 years old, I can retire early?

You monkey's nephews really crack me up.

Troglodad, Clarksville, IN, USA

Cuenca Western Spain?

Puri, Belfast, UK

Could David and Martin please explain how on earth Moses built a ship in a time before Homosapiens existed?

Sam, birmingham, west midlands

You creationists are so funny.

I guess this means that Noah was kicking round 80 million years ago...;)

Nick , London,

Sorry, but how does an "oral" history survive a multi-million year gap in species occurrence?

(Still not buying the flood.)

jill, Chicago, Illinois

Many peoples around the world have flood myths in their oral and written history because humans are dependent on water, and floods are a natural consequence of civilisations flourishing in the fertile areas near rivers.

Let's not entertain the rather silly idea that these dinosaurs from 80 million years ago were buried in Noah's flood.

Damian, Reading, Berkshire

Thousands of bones of a multiplicity of animals and plants suddenly buried in sediment all over the world.

Sounds like a world wide flood catastrophe.

Many peoples around the world have a "flood myth" in their oral and written history.

Sounds like a common thread of historical memory.

DNA research suggests that all humans came from a small group of people.

Maybe Noah was right all along.

Martin, Isle of Skye,

just imagine what could happen if one day the UK has the idea of building decent trains - just imagine what cuold be found!

mark, alicante, spain

"Maybe Noah was right all along." Claims Martin from the Isle of Skye.

Noah and his ark? Oh come on please. I thought this once guessed theory was blown out of the water years ago.

Although, maybe the world is flat and they fell off over the edge.

Paul Cowell, Canterbury, Kent

Hi,

What a great find.

This is yet another find which seriously supports the alternative view of Creation and the catastrophic flood deluge which surprised and engulfed these creatures.

Regards

David South

David South, Reading, Berkshire