Richard Owen in Rome
The man, the films, those blondes. Free DVD collection starting this Sunday

A Turkish lawyer is taking legal action against Inter Milan, the Italian football team, for wearing a strip with “Crusader-style” red crosses that he alleges is ”offensive to Muslim sensibilities”.
Baris Kaska, a lawyer in Izmir who specialises in European law, said that he had lodged a complaint in a local court against Inter Milan, which last month played the Istanbul team Fenerbahce in a Champions League match at the San Siro stadium in Milan. The Inter players wore a new strip - a white shirt with a giant red cross on it - marking the club's centenary.
Mr Kaska said he was not only seeking damages but was also appealing to Uefa to annul the match, which Inter won 3-0. “That cross only brings one thing to mind - the symbol of the Templar Knights,” he said. “It made me think immediately of the bloody days of the past. While I was watching the game I felt profound grief in my soul.” Mr Kaska told the Spanish newspaper La Vanguardia that the cross symbolised “Western racist superiority over Islam”.
He said that Inter had “manifested in the most explicit manner the superiority of one religion over another”. He said the court had contacted both Uefa and Fifa to convey his demand that Inter should be “heavily fined for displaying an offensive symbol”. “How could Uefa allow this?“demanded the Turkish paper Radikal.
Inter Milan officials said that they were “astounded”. They said that in the first match between the two teams in September at Istanbul - which Fenerbahce won 1-0 - Inter had deliberately refrained from wearing the strip with the red cross but had felt entitled to use it on its home ground.
Inter officials also pointed out that a red cross on a white background is the symbol of the city of Milan. Many Italian football clubs incorporated the cross on their shirts, including Inter, founded in Milan in 1908. “The red cross has become an international political football,” Corriere della Sera commented.
Uefa's mission is to “promote the principles of unity and solidarity” in Europe through football, “without discrimination on grounds of gender, religion or race.” However, Inter officials said Uefa had approved the new Inter strip at the start of the season, and the Turkish club had also accepted it before last month’s game.
La Repubblica said it was unclear whether Mr Kaska was “more wounded by the supposed offence or by the goals Inter scored”. Fenerbahce, one of Turkey’s top teams and the main rival in Istanbul of Galatasaray, was also founded 100 years ago. Its players wear a yellow-blue strip and are known as "The Yellow Canaries”.
The row comes at a sensitive moment in Turkey's ambitions to join the European Union. This week France won a symbolic victory at a meeting of EU Foreign Ministers when it prevented the EU using the word “accession” or “membership” in connection with Turkey, which is a secular state but has a majority Muslim population and a government led by Islamist politicians.
Ankara opened negotiations for EU membership two years ago, but Nicolas Sarkozy, the French President, has repeatedly said that Turkey has no place in Europe and should be offered instead a “privileged partnership”.
David Miliband, the Foreign Secretary, said: “We think it’s important that the European Union fulfil its responsibilities towards Turkey, but also that Turkey continues the reform process that is an important part of its passage to the European Union."
The EU statement welcomed the strengthening of democracy in Turkey but said “significant further efforts are needed in other areas such as judicial reform, the fight against corruption, minority rights and strengthening of cultural rights, women’s rights, children’s rights, trade union rights and civilian control of the military”.
Read the training tips and advice that helped our London Triathletes
Times Online's new TV show helps you make the right decisions for your pet
Read our exclusive 100 Years of Fleming and Bond interactive timeline, packed with original Times articles and reviews
The latest travel news plus the best hotels and gadgets for business travellers
Shortcuts to help you find sections and articles


Overseas contacts and local business information

A treasure trove of baubles, booty and stylish quests


Our Credit Clinic has free help and advice
2007
£47,700
2007
£41,899
2008
£41,445
Great car insurance deals online
£25,510 – 32,000
Transport for London
London
£50k
NHS
Nationwide
£
£90,000 + PRP
Essex County Council
Essex
100K
Confidential
London
5% below developer pre-launch price!
Luxury Appts, beautiful gardens w/ Thames views
Great Investment, River Views
By Funway – Thailand
from £589pp
Christmas Cruises
From only £995pp
APTs East Coast now from only
£2425pp.
Great travel insurance deals online
So Mr Kaska was offended; reminded of a 'bloody period' 900 years ago, not offended then, by a bloody period very recently on a British Underground Railway system where members of the 'Red Cross' performed sterling work in saving the innocent victims of a terrorist bomb blast.
Dennis, Plymouth, Devon, UK
According to that argument then, you might as well ban ALL muslim nations which use the Crescent as their emblem.
Most people of the Jewish and Christian faiths will easily recognize this symbol of atrocities committed by the Muslim peoples many years ago. What then of the Turkish national team?
Nikos Paschali, Toronto, Canada
I do not think this lawyer has any real basis whatsoever for his lawsuit. The crosses in question are a symbol of the football team, not of the crusades.
SAS, Buffalo, NY ,
i wear the cross of st george every day . englands flag is red cross on white background do they want to ban that aswell .
i am a KNIGHTS TEMPLAR no one will stop me from wearing the red cross
gerry, exeter, england
We have every right to wear the red cross!!!! The Crusades happened nearly 900 years ago!!! and whats funnier is we lost ? :S so why keep dragging it up. I'm beginning to get frustrated with how we have to compromise our Countries beliefs and traditions based on how Foreigners feel. Especially being as we're not aloud to compromise theirs without fear or losing a hand or being hung. *spits
Drew Rosen, Sheffield, United Kingdom
I'm sure the lawyer will be "un-offended" with the payment of a few million dollars. Then all will be forgiven and life will go on.
Like all lawyers, money talks for this clown.
They say the difference between a lawyer and God is that God doesn't think he is a lawyer.
Peter Scioscia, Wollongong, Australia
Hahaha this is inrcredibly rediculous! Someone ought to remind that chap what the St. Georges cross looks like, England's Flag!
Craig Timms, Swindon,
Im a Muslim and the shirt doesnt offend me.
What does offend me is people like Baris Kaska who is selling my faith down the river and embarrassing Islam's reputation further because he thinks there is a bit of money in it.
The man should be ashamed.
Naseem, Coventry,
HMMMM...
I don't know what to complain of???
Turkey although calling themselves muslims hardly have any islamic laws or respect and i am from Pakistan((Which according to many in the west is hardcore militant camp)) and i dont feel anything.....Footaball is the most unpolitical game in the world...it's more beautiful than a rainbow.... no one gives a think about a thousand year ago...the only idea that comes is AC MILAN is better than Inter no matter how many crosses do they wear....
FORZA MILANO!!!!
Syed Muhammad Yaqoub, karachi, Paksitan
What is wrong with these people? No, not the Turks but you lot pontificating here. Have you nothing better to do than take the words and actions of one publicity hungry idiot and draw conclusions about an entire religion and over a billion people from hundreds of cultures and countries worldwide?
Talk about an irony bypass; I imagine the lawyer in question is strutting about and laughing his socks off at the reaction he's managed to elicit from you
Eddie, London,
idiots!
i think they should change thier badge because it offends me
:-\
some people !
emma, watford,
What a load of rubbish. If I saw that strip I would immediately think of the England flag and not some crusades from 1000 years ago. Sometimes, bigotry and intolerance is in the eye of the beholder.........if this guy really thinks this as his 1st thought on seeing that strip then he is obviously a headcase!!!
I sincerely hope Milan go to court and bankrupt him.
David Ross, Ellon, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
The red cross on the white background is the flag of England. Is this character seriously suggesting that England abandons its national flag to avoid offending Muslims?
Will Turkey change the crescent on its flag to avoid offending Christians? I thought not!!
Robert, Liverpool, England, UK
Muslims in western countries fight in courts to change heritage and christian symbols that doesn't suit their belief, while Christians in Islamic countries struggle to stay alive and not getting killed for just being Christians. Go figure!
Hany, Toronto, Canada
The kkk still exists in the USA and they still perpetuate hate towrads black, jewish and catholics. So, comparing the 2 issues is like cmparing apples to oranges. The crusades ended almost 1000 yrs ago and the knights templars were dissolved in the 14th century. The 2 are very different. I think most if not all of Europe has moved on, why can't this lawyer? If he wants to launch legal action, go ahead. It is none the less absurd. This lawyer is not protecting the ideas or feeling of islam. He is going on his on personal crusade because his team got smoked by inter. Is he now going to go after each city/town/ country that has a similar emblem that might resemble that of the templars?
give me a break!
Mark, Toronto, Canada
Where can I buy it?
Allan, Glasgow,
Send him a teddy bear with the Inter Milan away jersey!
Antonio, Toronto, Canada
Some, or many perhaps, claim to keep libral thinking and open minded approach and freedum of thoughts. But whenever it come to Islam and Muslims ... it all changes!
Such as the comment sent by "kathy osborne, ponderay , idaho". No matter what we think; the lawyer (or any person) is free to take all legal actions to protect his society, family and himself. He did not harm any one or did not fight with any one .. it's all legal actions .. as per European law !! and he was very particular about the "Crusader-style" not any thing else! What would many Americans feel if an American Football team played against an all-black team with KKK printed on their shirts !!??? Just think!
Islam is about protecting and respecting self, family, society and the world.
"O People! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise each other)" Quraan [49:13]
Solomon's Hoopoe, ME,
Normally, I'd be inclined to heap scorn, too, but the same sort of thing happens here with American sports teams.
For that matter, are there any Europeans upset by the mascot caricatures used by the Notre Dame Fighting Irish, Minnesota Vikings, or Boston Celtics? I'm just curious.
Chris Anderson, Buffalo Grove, IL, United States
If the Turks think that a red cross on a white background represents âWestern racist superiority over Islamâ, I guess they can't be too happy about the English flag either.
I'm at a loss as to how one can feel "racist superiority" over a religion. Is religion the same thing as race these days?
Mark Jamieson, Bristol,
I just keep thinking that, like my two-year-old, everytime these sensitive Islamists throw a fit and won't listen to reason, they must need some sort of corporal punishment and a reminder that the world does not revolve around them.
If not, the world soon WILL revolve around them.
kathy osborne, ponderay , idaho
Historicaly it was the Muslims who invaded the Middle East. In what is now Turkey was the Byzantine Christian Empire. The present Day Turks lived in Asia/ Turkoman in the 11th century. The Crusades were launched when the Catholic Pope received numerous pleas for help from the Christian Eastern Orthodox Patrirch and the Byzantine Empire King .Go Milan, if the Turks do not like the Red Cross Move back to Asia-Uzbec/Turkoman and give Asia Minor(Present day Turkey)back to the Christian Byzantine Eastern Roman Empire people who were killed , displaced,sold into slavery by the invading Ottoman and Seljuik Turks.
Ed the Christian , Waterbury, USA- Ct.
Better wake up Europe!!
Shawn, Philadelphia, PA
Better wake up Europe!!
Shawn, Philadelphia, PA
By the sheer act pulled by Milan as well as a few comments posted here one wonders if the West is ever going to evolve beyond the tribalism of the dark Middle Ages towards a less supremacist and more universal understanding of human rights!
Levent, Istanbul,
That's it. I'm suing every theist in the world for offending my sensibilities.
I'm not optimistic!
I Bradley, Leicester, UK
I'm going to sue Portsmouth FC. The club has a crescent on its badge. As a civilised person, I find this offensive.
Tim, Auckland, New Zealand
Perhaps they should replace the red cross with a teddy bear Icon?
Kevin, Portsmouth, UK
Andrew Munn, Bangkok, Thailand:
The UK is a part of the EU, it happened years ago!
J Roberts, Manchester, UK
Would this "lawyer" appeal had the result been Inter 0 - Fenerbahce 3?
Isramar, London, UK
where can I buy this t-shirt?
Mat Parker, reading, united kingdom
Would this be the victim culture that Baroness Warsi was talking about ? I think so ...
Benzo, Nr Chelmsford,
Well said Paul Francis but lets not forget the fact that the Middle East, North Africa, Arabia, Persia, Central Asia and northern India were all also conquered by Muslims having been Christian/Zoroastrian/Hindu-Buddhist beforehand. The idea that Islam has always suffered in the face of expansionist, racist Europeans/Christians is a modern myth and has no bearing upon historical reality. Even the Crusades, which have a pretty dreadful reputation, were up there with the most "justifiable" of wars in that bloodthirsty medieval era and were a pretty insignificant event for contemporary Muslims. Indeed Muslims living at the time of the Crusades did not even recognise them as an event - as anyone who has actually studied the historical sources of the time rather than relying upon popular ignorance would know.
Calum Iain, Steòrnabhagh, Albainn
If we were to play tit for tat, we could whine about the color green being used on most of the muslim countries national flags. Moe the "prophet" used that color on his war banner during his jihad campaigns that predated the crusades by 400 years. The Saudi flag is offensive because not only is it green but depicts a jihad sword and contains the islamic war cry ALLAH U AKBAR, Iraq's flag also has this war cry.
The inclusion of "sacred islamic" text on islamic country flags has created problems when they are reproduced on souvenir items or as a throw-away hand-waver. An example of this insult to islam occurred when muslims "complained" about the Saudi flag appearing on World Cup footballs.
If we were to adopt the same standard of civility as our muslim brothers, we would be rioting in the streets, burning down embassies and producing crusification videos for PTL club broadcast every time we saw anything remotely connected to the jihad.
Andre, Moncton, CANADA
I just love the Crusaders! Opps I mean Inter Milan! ;)
Cynthia, Stocktown, USA
This lawyer should be struck off!! I bet he isn't thinking of suing Saudi Arabia whose flag proudly displays text from the Koran. So is that offensive to all non Muslims? It's people like this idiot who give Islam a bad name. As long as this is how the Turks think then keep them out of the EU - we dont need them
George, Glasgow, UK
So another offense to Islam.What's new?Now we capitulate ,as per usual.Don't want the little darlings rioting in the streets,killing each other.
ron, toronto,
I want CRUSADER T-shirt
Marko, Cleveland, Ohio USA
Its got that lawyer s name in the papers (good for attracting islamist clients) and given the world another reason to laugh at muslim attitudes. So I suppose everyone - except muslims - wins
dhrowlands, cardiff,
Is he also going to sue the entire British Commonwealth, Georgia, Iceland, Tonga and the IRC for flying flags which contain a red cross?
Seriously though, I am considering legal action against Everton FC. When I saw their blue shirts on TV at the weekend âIt made me think immediately of the bloody days of the past. While I was watching the game I felt profound grief in my soul.â
Perhaps the FA will consider anulling all their recent cup successes... That shouldn't take long.
Richard , Jersey, CI,
âWestern racist superiority over Islamâ.
When did 'Islam' become a race?
Harry, Coventry, Uk
England should change their flag then.... Its only fair.
Neal, Aberdeen, Scotland
My Alfa Romeo badge has a crusaders flag on it, is he going to sue my car?
Rob, Brum, UK
Simple solution -- don't go to their soccer games!
LC, Indy,
you gotta be kidding me
george whyte, cardiff,
Flying hijacked Boeing 767 jets into skyscrapers is offensive to me.
Tom, USA,
Personally, I find beheadings rather offensive myself.
Pamela, Vista, USA
Everybody should buy one. We should start a HUGE fan club for Inter Milan. We should make it the most popular club in the world and proudly wear our shirts to show our support.
Wonder what would happen.
david, madrid,
Good to see the East openly embracing the philosophy and practices of the West!!!
Rohan, Australia,
Hey, I'm gonna buy one!
Ruben, Moscow, Russia
Oh help, if he comes over here the England flag will get banned by the PC brigade. I feel sorry for the normal Muslims really, even if I do get angry sometimes with the way we Christians have to avoid upsetting them all the time.
And thanks to Paul Francis from Australia for a positive input.
redandover60, Hayes, Middlesex, England
He should be told politely but firmly, where to go and stop wasting the court's time. They have more serious problems to deal with.
Chris, Birmingham,
I totally understand where this guy's coming from. I watched the Liverpool v Marseille match last night and was appaled at the 'pinky orange day-glow' Marseille strip.....less on religious grounds, more on the grounds it looked crap.
I'm currently drafting a letter to FIFA asking them to run footy kits past Trinny and Susannah before allowing them to offend my sensibilities i.e my eyes.
Andy C, Bristol, Britain
I'm with La Repubblica.... the guy is just a bad loser!
Garley, London, England
The guy should be sent to Afghanistan to give free legal aid counsel, and then he wouldnt have so much time to whinge about such petty things.
Gavin, Gibraltar, Gibraltar
the daily reports of bombings and beheadings committed in the name if Islam offend the sensibilities of the modern world... can we sue an entire religion for the actions that their most extreme commit?
chris, Greensboro, North Carolina, USA
utterly pathetic.
Liz, London,
"manifested in the most explicit manner the superiority of one religion over another". Really? Isn't he confusing T-shirts with beheadings?
Steven Mackey, Kingston, USA
I disagree you who have posted here I have to see this as a joke he is a fan that wants to win at any cost he cant be serious otherwise
steve, london,
Just another example of Muslim over-sensitivity. Same old same old...
Jay, London, UK
Baris Kaska, a lawyer in Izmir who specialises in European law,
ITS RATHER A PARADOX that he is from the city of IZMIR, aka the city built over the Greek city called SMYRNA ...where the TURKS did a (nother) genocide when the ottomanempire collapsed and killed/threw out the majority --> all the greeks and armenians(read, christians and non muslims)?
Neil Youngel, Brigthon, Uk
And some people want the UK to be a member of the EU, don't think so!!
Andrew Munn, Bangkok, Thailand
Now every one will be supporting England and Georgia, just to irritate the islamic extremist who most of their time time are either using their right hand(not just to pick their noses).. or just finding offence from non believers and the other believers.
Lets just hope they can get a life.
Gold finger, Gloucester, Uk
People who are so easily offended by other people's actions and dress should stop overestimating their own importance. Nobody is targeting them, Milan's strip is intended to identify the team, not send any message to individual spectators.
Mr. Kaska, you are not that important - the team has nothing to say to you. You can choose to watch them or not. Like them and everybody else in the world, you are a free agent.
Rosemary, Liverpool,
Where can I get one!
Werth, Sachse, USA / TX
So many muslims seem blind to irony:
Turkey, from where this trouble-causer comes, exists only because the muslim turk hordes attacked, over-ran, and occupied Byzantine Greece, and persecuted the native greek and slavic citizens, destroying a greek civilisation that had existed continuously for 2000 years.
If you want just one of many examples of those muslim turkish oppressions, just google "devshirme", the boy-tribute that christian families were forced to pay to the Ottoman Muslim occupiers.
Rob Holt, Salford, England
Why are these people so insecure?
Leo, London, UK
Because deep down they KNOW what frauds their religion and cultures are? Because they are ashamed of them? Because they miss the 6th century and yearn to bring it back??
Take your pick.....
Ziggy, Massachusetts, USA
This is MENTAL! Seriously! The Turks are great - I have house there and all of the Turkish people I deal with whilst being muslim are very westernised indeed - I regularly enjoy copious amounts of Raki with them!
Mr Kaska - The George cross exists, it will always exist and just for the record according to legend ST GEORGE WAS FROM TURKEY! Denying your past would surely affect your national sensibilities!
You're going to be laughed out of court!
Barney, Liverpool, UK
More reasons why Turkey should never join eh EU and why teh foreign uninvited guest workers should be forcibly removed from western Christendom. The Turks dont like 'crusader' Tough we dotn like the slave trade the Turks engaged in in the Balkans and southern Russia or their destruction of Byzantine Rome and Ancient Greece which they have turned into a slum.
NEil McAllister, Chessington, Surrey
I guess the more sensitive muslims should all congregate in one country and have nothing to do with the rest of the world. We're just not good enough for them.
Ferris, Calgary, Canada
I can't believe what I've just read...
As a human being I am offended by Sharia Law and it's maltreated of Gay, Lesbians and Women. I think I sue Islam...
Inter Milan fan, Glasgow,
I wanted to say something but... i'm getting tired of all this cr-p.
(yawn)
louise, Soissons,
Fine, now that Crescent and Star on the Turkish flag, ancient symbol of the superiority of Islam...
mc, Madison, WI
Does this mean that a crescent moon should be banned in Europe - like the ones that are popping up on buildings all over the place?
You could call your team Crusaders if you like and wear a big red cross as well, if you like...welcome to freedom and democracy people.
This is all part of people's culture and along with the bad stuff there is the good stuff. Although I am a Scot, I believe that a famous English king was involved in all of this ancient conflict. Should the English be ashamed of their heritage? I think not. Good luck with your English flag - red cross on white background isn't it? Nice.
I would like to see this come to court and hear some more of his hilarious arguements. What really is offensive to him - and let's be honest about it - Christianity.
It all gets funnier and funnier: teddy bears; football shirts; Christians.
Joe, Duns, Scotland
the St. George's Cross on England's flag is the next bit to "cause offense"... it's our fault, we take them seriously when we shouldn't
Ross, Milan,
Besides this lawyer, which other muslims sensibilities were offended? Just pure nonsense - now they want to tell us what to wear? These people ought to goout more.
Ian Burgess, Bristol,
Have these people nothing better to do than sit around looking things that offend them. It really is pathetic! It's like a bunch of children whinging. Maybe Mr Kaska should focus on some real issues such as the appalling treatment of muslims women if they do not conform or corrupted muslim children being urged to give their lives for unjust causes.
I think Mr Kaska has far too much time on his hands.
Kelly , london, uk
and some people want Turkey to be a member of the EU ?
Don't think so.
Clive, Epsom, England
He has too much time on his hands... Maybe we should send him a teddy bear as a good will gesture.
Brett, Wolverhampton, England
"offensive to Muslim sensibilities"? Just add it to the list.
Ellen Morris, Leeds,
Why are these people so insecure?!
Leo, London, UK
I was going to go on a massive tirade here, but I will settle down and instead concur with Crusader and Anona.
Ridiculous.
auskop, london,
Medieval
Ulrich, Moscow,
almost as ludicrous as rangers fans being offended by another nations flag
these sensitive souls he he
John Knox, Greenock,
The world is certainly going mad!!!
mark, Barcelona, Spain
As a British Muslim and an avid football supporter, I must say that I have never attributed a football kit to racism or elitism. I find that this type of action only does further harm to the image of Islam.
Hamad Lone, London, England
Looks like an ideal Christmas present for the teens and dad: a white T-shirt with a large red cross on it. Let us fight religious intolerance the best way. After all, in the main, we do not object to women wearing scarves in public as a symbol of their religion.
B J Deller, Marbella, Spain
Let's see - Ottoman Turks conquered the Middle East by the sword; Muslims conquered Spain and lower France, also Sicily, Eastern Europe and were only stopped at Vienna in 1683. Seems that according to this Turkish lawyer, Muslims should be allowed to dish it out, but should never have to take it.
Paul Francis, Brisbane, Australia
Ridiculous
Crusader, Leeds,
This is getting ridiculous.
Anona, London,