Michael Evans, Defence Editor
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President Sarkozy rode to the rescue of beleaguered Nato forces in southern Afghanistan yesterday when he offered to deploy French troops alongside Canadians in Kandahar.
The French leader has been the most forthcoming of Nato leaders in answering the urgent call to help the troops fighting Taleban insurgents.
After Canada’s repeated warnings that it would pull its 2,500 troops out of Kandahar if no other alliance member came to support them, France has been the only country to hint at sending reinforcements.
French and Canadian officials are discussing the logistics of operating a combined force. A delegation was sent to Paris from Ottawa yesterday.
The move by the French was being seen as further evidence of President Sarkozy’s willingness to draw closer to the alliance, with the possibility of France rejoining Nato’s integrated military stucture, from which President de Gaulle withdrew in 1967.
Canada wants 1,000 extra soldiers to fight in Kandahar, but the indications so far are that Paris has a smaller-sized force in mind. A French diplomatic source said that decisions would not be made public until the Nato summit in Bucharest in April.
If France meets only a proportion of the required 1,000 extra troops, another Nato country will have to make an offer to ensure that Canada keeps its 2,500 soldiers in Kandahar. Canada has asked Poland to deploy troops but at the Nato defence ministers’ informal meeting in Vilnius yesterday, Bogdan Klich, the Polish minister, said there were no plans to send its 1,200 soldiers, based in eastern Afghanistan, to the south because of the increased risks. “This province doesn’t meet our baseline criteria, which hinge on reducing the risks to our contingent,” he told a Polish newspaper. However, Poland confirmed it would raise its troop numbers in Afghanistan to 1,600 later this year. Norway said it planned to send another 200 troops to add to its present 500.
British diplomatic sources said there were no obvious candidates yet for the appointment of UN special envoy to Afghanistan, after President Karzai’s rejection of Lord Ashdown of Norton-sub-Hamdon.
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While i support NATO's mission in Afghanistan and support the UK's large contribution to the force, Meele from Birmingham YK(?) 's comment annoyed me no end.
Afghanistan is America's war. It was America that was attacked, and it was they who chose to invade the country ... Not us Euros. But the Yanks do what they always do and rope their "allies" into it. America can't fight a war by itself
The UK has been with the USA from the beginning, but by my reckoning, we've should have waited until the 7/7 before we got involved ... after all it took something similar for the Yanks before they got in in with us in WW2.
And as for Nick in London, lose like the Soviets. Don't think so. Watch this space, we'll come out on top - may take a while but we'll win.
Douglas Newell, Saltcoats, UK
[Will 1 000 added to 2 500 Canadans in Kandehar make a great deal of difference?
In my view no.
.....Joe
Joe Hueglin, Niagara Falls, Canada]
Well sir, whether I agree with you or not, the Manley Report certainly makes clear the vision, and Harper is basing his Government's future on it, in the form of an 'official bill'...the Gov will fall if the bill is defeated.
I think France and Canada will make an excellent integrated team, not the least since Canada is bilingual.
And let's keep things straight here, folks. France is considerably more militarily equipped than the UK! France is able to supply the *missing hardware* that is so necessary for Canada to stay. As a French poster has indicated, France is already in Afghanistan, and has been since the beginning.
Another point: Majority Cdn poll results show favour for adopting the role of aid, rather than fighting, the 'caveat' that many European nations entered the fray with. Remember: The US claimed that the fighting was finished.
steve saines, toronto, canada
After nearly six years, shouldn't Afghanistan have its own army by now? Are the Afghans just content to sit on their lazy backsides, watching foreigners fight and die for their freedom? Or do the Afghans actually want to live under the domination of hillbilly tribal Pakistanis who can neither read or write?
Mike, Brighton, England
I want to reply to NM Hall from Ontario, and its willing to see the paratroopers regiment of the Foreign Legion along with our fellows canadian brother in arms (Dieppe...).
2e REP's soldiers are the best of the best, even Pentagon says that. The best because they are doing war not ideology. They are trained to fight without computer, without air support, without that bullshit of "transformation" or "network centric warfare". They speak many langages, they are sent overeas even in peace time, they don't open fire at any incident, etc... Exactly the opposite of what the Americans do in Afghanistan, the reason why they are defeated.
OK to send French elite troops. But with the methods and under French or British command, after pulling out the stupid US "strategists", and with all the NATO Troops under that French (or European) command. Otherwise we have been defeated so many times (from Quebec in 1759 to Dien Bien Phu in 1954) that we have no pleasure for that.
Are you OK, Sir.
Immarigeon, Paris, France
France was in the very first of all NATO countries to send troops in early 2002 to support US Army in a mountain war Americans were neither prepared or trained for. These 200 french commandos did a pretty good job, despite their inintelligence with the US troops who want to ignore how to do that kind of war. Consequently they were withdrawn in november 2006, due to the complete failure of the US strategy in Afghanistan. President Sarkozy, now rejected by a majority ot the French, can not go further in supporting an absurd US policy which duplicates the Vietnam defeat.
In the same period, french polices and secret services prevented any terrorist attacks against France, a war that began in 1983, with dramatic peaks in 1986 and 1995, when bombs exploded in Paris during weeks, and Christmas 1994 when commandos stopped a first "9-11" civil plane attack on Paris buildings (French fighters were also on the spot if commandos have failed). So France has no lesson to receive from anybody.
Immarigeon, Paris, France
As a Spaniard I am completely ashamed due to the fact that the Canadians are fighting alone in southern Afganistan. I think that is completely unfair that some countries troops are in the first line and others only make low risk duties.
GRE, Madrid, España
After all our efforts and the 'per capita" casualties, it is a disgrace that other members of NATO do not willingly come to our assistance - other than those already doing their share. If the French are going to come South, let's hope they are 2e REP. We'll fight with them anytime!
NM Hall, Whitby, Ontario Canada
I think we should continue to bully America into
fighting terrorism, protecting Europe and generally
being the policeman against tyranny, while we,
of course, blame if for daring to fight others.
So long as America allows us to play them like
this, why should we endanger our people when
Americans will die for those of us who do
nothing to help ourselves. If Americans dont
like it, we can always claim to be victims of
discriination, their bullying insensitivities,
and, in the end, get them to do our bidding,
while we remain on our protected high horse
claiming superiority in all things.
Meele, Birmingham, YK
I find it inteesting that France has no problem sending in its troops to former colonies such a Chad whenever there is unrest. I would have thought supporting NATO was far more important.
As a Canadian I am proud of our troops in Afghanistan but
believe they should "come home" unless other countries help them out. Either that or simply 'cut' those countries such as Germany, Italy and Spain who want to be in NATO but refuse to pay their dues.
Peter J Hedge
Victoria, BC
Peter J Hedge, Victoria, BC/Canada
it s a lost battle in the end Nato will be defeated just like the Soviets.
nick, london, UK
Surely all this shows how pathetic NATO has become, when
we have to beg the French a major power to send 1,000
troops to help the brave Canadians, and even then the French
will only send 500 troops. What is the point of a military
alliance like this, weak, feeble, effeminate. What is the point
in Britain tying it's future to a European Union such as this.
Britain must enlarge it's army and seek to work with the only
nations we can trust....America...Canada...Australia...New
Zealand. Anything else is a delusion.
Jeremy, Somerset, England
France already has troops in Afghanistan...
delia, paris, Fr
Hello NATO , we have a problem .... If the French come; the Canadians work load will double .... protect the French and fight the Taliban.!!
Larry Hyde, Edinburgh, UK
7 500 troops from the U.K are in Helmand Province.
Will 1 000 added to 2 500 Canadans in Kandehar make a great deal of difference?
In my view no.
.....Joe
Joe Hueglin, Niagara Falls, Canada