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When police learnt that rival gangs were planning a showdown in Chelles, east of Paris, they prepared for the sort of violence that has become routine in France's troubled suburbs.
But even the most hardened officers were stunned as they arrived at the scene. The participants in what has become known as the battle of Chelles bus station were all girls aged between 14 and 17.
“They were fighting like the toughest of boys,” a policewoman who saw the confrontation this month said. “They had knives, screwdrivers, sticks and teargas and they were really going for each other. There must have been about 100 of them - some taking part and some there as spectators. It was quite frightening and if we hadn't intervened quickly, it would have ended in a bloodbath.”
Eight girls were arrested and France was caught in anguished debate over les petites terreurs copying the brutal behaviour of their male counterparts, a concern that has been heightened by a 140 per cent increase in female adolescent violence since 2002.
When The Times met some of the girls last week, they were revealed as ordinary adolescents brought up on multi-ethnic housing estates where violence has become the norm. They dress with style, use make-up, talk in sweet tones - and think that teargas and kitchen knives are appropriate for settling a teenage dispute over boys.
Awa, for instance, is a member of the girl's gang from Meaux, outside Paris, which confronted rivals from Noisiel, a town 25 miles (40 kilometres) away, at the bus station in Chelles, where they all attend a sixth-form college.
“It all began because one of the Noisiel girls started hanging around the boys in Meaux,” said the 16-year-old, who was wearing a black jacket and pristine white blouse. “We phoned her up and told her to stop. You don't start going out with our boys if you're from Noisiel. The girl took the call badly and said she was coming down with some of her friends to do us in. So we had to meet them.”
There was an initial clash by the 613 bus stop in Chelles on a Friday afternoon, with a dozen or so girls from each side kicking and punching each other. When that ended without a clear winner, the adolescents sent text messages to arrange another confrontation for the next Monday. This time they brought knives, other weapons and self-defence sprays containing a form of teargas.
“We quite often have to deal with girls' violence these days,” said the policewoman. “But it's usually four of five of them having a punch-up. I've never seen a pitched battle between gangs of girls like that before, although I'm not completely surprised because they all seem to want to imitate the boys these days. They swear and spit and are really aggressive.”
With turf wars between male gangs a common feature of the French suburbs, which have become synonymous with high immigration, segregation, riots, crime and drugs, it was only a matter of time before the practice spread to girls, she said.
“It's all about defending your territory,” said Jenaba, another 16-year-old participant in the battle of Chelles. “We grew up together in Meaux, we have been friends since primary school and we go dancing together. It's only natural that we should stick together against the Noisiel gang.”
When asked whether there was an ethnic dimension to the fight, she reacted with surprise. “It's not the blacks against the Arabs or anything like that. We're all mixed up together. It's just one estate against another.”
“Some of the girls are incredibly violent these days,” Mohammed, a 16-year-old boy, said. “They're tougher than us. Just the other day a girl in school chased a boy all the way around the grounds with a knife. He had to climb up a tree to get away from her.”
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All this is, is simply a French version of the Crips against a French version of Hamas, only these are fighting sow-bellies.
Personally, I don't care if they shred each other like Nabisco wheat- they'll remove themselves from the gene pool, and France won't have to deal with their welfare babies.
Salud! Salud! Salud!
Luis Toro, Chicago, IL
Worried? see American Renaissance on the net.
Harold, Wrexham, UK
hell hath no fury like a woman scorned...and that sounds like it was hell
Erin, New Mexico, USA
Ahhhh,,,,such delicate little flowers.
Grace, London/NY,
Immigrant on immigrant
Enough said
And another country that has fought hard for it's survival is totally ruined by those it has given a 'safe haven' to
Welcome to 1990's England and take care on the long long downhill road to shame.
wait for all the dogooders to tell everyone how it is 'not their' fault.... and all the fault of the middle class, tax paying French.!!!
I pity France....and long ago gave up on England!
Mr James, Sutton, England
This shouldn't shock anyone. Now that women are gaining right and realizing they have them and be want ever they want.. they make the same choices as men. to think that women are less violent than men is giving in to sexism.
dave, kitchener, canada
âIt's all about defending your territory,â Absolutely ludicrous. I am just glad that it is not just Britain that has a problem with teenagers. However with reference ti what has already been written tackling terrorists/armed forces is one thing. It is not quite the same trying to change social problems that are to do with how a generation of kids have been brought up. You simply cannot compare the two!
Joe, Bristol, UK
Saleh, There is no point citing complex geo plitical arguments to this sort of thing when the problems are much more simple.
Invariably French social unrest takes place in the banlieu, inner city council estates.
They are bleak, drab concrete wastelands where crime is a way of life .
The people who inhabit these tower blocks are mostly of ethnic origin.
The young are invariably unemployed due to the governments policy of taxing employement with a 75% social security tax on salaries
But, with adaquate benefits in their pockets these kids don't need to work anyway, so they band together and take on a society from they feel alienated. Most of them couldn't care less what was going on on Irak or elsewhere.
I have empolyed many of these kids over the years and found them polite , well educated and excellant workers. France needs to dismantle the sink estates that breeds the tribalism that leads most of them astray.
andy, lyon, france
Why, oh why did Europe have to start emulating the US? Multi culturalism is not the answer, it doesn't work in the US and it won't work in Europe, look at Japan. Europe really isn't old Europe anymore, its more like the tryanny of America..
Peter, Orlando,
Saleh Mohammad is absolutely right. As long as this violence is confined to the lower and lower-middle classes, politicians will not seriously tackle the problem.
Chrish Wright, London, UK
What is most worrying is the fact that none of this has been trasmitted by French media . With local elections in view one wonders if Sarko`s media pals are keeping a lid on all this .
Andrew, Paris , France
I just can't imagine governments can't stand up against all these kinds of gangs. I would rather however say that it's a lack of concern in such fights as long as it includes non of the ''elite boys'' on the victim side. I mean by the elites boys those whose names are associated to ministers, CEOs, corporates' guys sons and daughters. The reason behind my saying so is that France, as any other big countries, keep on sending their troops abroad to challenge insurgents and terrorits using the most equipped weapons and intelligence; so how can one comprehend their weakness when it comes to girls fighting using knives and screwdrivers? I think finally that governments do appreciate those guys carrying out the leg work on their behalf.
Saleh Mohammad, London,