Richard Owen in Padua
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Leandro Comacchio, a Northern League leader, is outside a suburban supermarket in Padua collecting signatures for a referendum to stop the construction of a mosque. The campaign, he claims, is not aimed at Muslims. It is, rather, a protest against the “permissive” centre-left council which, he alleges, is giving away council land for construction of the 2,300sq ft mosque.
He contends that the council tolerates unchecked immigration, which has in turn exacerbated street crime, urban decay and drug dealing.
Immigration, and the perceived crime spree, has become a key issue in the city once best known for its ancient university and elegant piazzas – so much so that Northern League supporters have set up vigilante groups.
“We have formed citizen street patrols, together with residents’ associations,” Mr Comacchio said. “A minimum of four people, but often up to ten, all with phosphorescent jackets carrying the Lion of St Mark, the symbol of the Veneto region.”
Mr Comacchio does not like the term vigilantes, prefering instead “concerned residents” who call the police when necessary.
Muslims at the provisional mosque in a derelict supermarket on the other side of town are feeling under siege. The mosque, which has to close by next month because the owner is reclaiming the site, is next to Via Anelli, a dilapidated immigrant housing estate, around which the authorities erected a metal fence – the Wall of Padua – in an attempt to contain drug dealing and prostitution two years ago.
Maher Selmi, a Moroccan student who is the mosque’s spokesman, said that there was worrying prejudice against foreigners as Italy shifted to the Right.
In national elections last month a centre-right coalition led by Silvio Berlusconi, which included the separatist Northern League and the “postFascist” Alleanza Nazionale, swept the board. Gianni Alemanno, also of Alleanza Nazionale, was elected Mayor of Rome this week.
“We don’t want confrontation,” Mr Selmi said. “We want dialogue with all parties to find common ground.”
The League, led by Umberto Bossi – who once said that those arriving by sea should be fired on by the navy – doubled its national vote to more than 8 per cent. In Padua, where this week there was an outcry when a teacher was suspended for telling Muslim schoolgirls to take off their veils, it tripled its vote from 5 per cent to 15 per cent, according to Mariella Mazzetto, a Northern League councillor.
Last year Ms Mazzetto took a pig to the abandoned farmhouse where the mosque is due to be built next to a nomad encampment. Pork is anathema to Muslims but Ms Mazzetto denies that she or the League are racist or xenophobic. “I made a provocative gesture with the pig to arouse debate,” she said. “The League has grown in strength because it is in tune with concerns of ordinary people.”
The campaigners, who need 5,000 signatures to force a referendum, have so far collected more than 1,600.
Flavio Zanonato, the centre-left mayor, said he was confident that Paduans would support the €860,000 (£670,000) mosque, which the Muslim community would fund by paying rent to the council. Maurizio Conte, a League leader in the Veneto, said that the mosque would attract “uncontrollable criminals and fundamentalists.”
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The Italians are right. If the muslims want to live in the West they must respect our way of life. No more toleration for those who hate us and yet want to live among us.
Bill, Corfu, Greece
Aren't they just treating Muslims the way Christains are treated in most Muslim countries? (without the beheadings). Sauce for the goose...
Alan, Edinburgh,
Muslims, christians, jews, buddhists... we are all human, lets respect each other, lets help each other having a decent place to workship whichever god we want to workship. As soon as dialog is open and you know the other, there is no enemy. Just go talk to them, they are people, good, like you.
Cesar, London, UK
Italians don't want to be stranger at home anymore. Europe wake up!
debora, bologna, italy
To all these people saying the West should "tolerate" the Mulsims.
The Mulsims have flooded into Europe by the MILLIONS.
They DO force themselves onto local populations of Europe and the Europeans do not want them.
A few visiting Muslims might be ok...an invasion of millions is NOT OK!!!
Adam, NY , USA
The cult of tolerance is the death process of the West. There is no tolerance in Islam, only submission and Jihad. The time has come for Britain and Europe to resist Islamic colonisation and reverse the tide of its demographic conquest.
Karl Jones, Bradford, England
Practising Muslims who want a mosque as a place of worship have no intention of selling drugs, mugging residents or commiting any acts which goes against the local laws or shariah law. Does Richard Owen claim that muslims are exacerbated street crime and then have the intention of building a mosque?
Abdul Motin, London, UK
"Muslims have been trying to take over Europe for 2000 years. This is nothing new."
To Josh in London, you should check your facts because for a start the Islamic religion is only 1400 years old!
N Khan, London, UK
"Muslims have been trying to take over Europe for 2000 years. This is nothing new."
To Josh in London, you should check your facts because for a start the Islamic religion is only 1400 years old!
N Khan, London, UK
Thank goodness that some Europeans are not afraid to say that the mosque has no place in Europe's cities. It is a symbol of all that Western civilisation rejects.
Ben, Ottawa, Canada
All mosques and Islamic institutions in the West should be closed until such time as there are full and equal rights for Arab and Middle Eastern Christians, and until such time as there are churches and Christian institutions in Saudi Arabia.
Bob, Brisbane, Australia
Good to hear that at least somewhere in Europe, people are prepared to stand up to Islam. Shame we are too scared to do that here.
Tom , London, Great Britain
Oh,you liberals are the same all over,use this fine words as tolerance,human-rights and so on.
An if we disagree,then we are hmmmm..what's the word again,Theiso,yes we are..nazi's..hmm..
Do anybody know howe many are arrested in Europe because they stated another opinion than the goverment allows?
Ole H. Johansen, Oslo, NORWAY
Mario
I can't go "home" my land was siezed in 1948 maybe if we stopped supporting aparthied's and dictatorships all of us would be "home". But until then I guess you have to deal with us. And if you don't like it invent a time machine and live in the "good old times" when people lived in chains!
Omar, NYC, THE U S of A
Muslims have been trying to take over Europe for 2000 years. This is nothing new.
Josh, London,
I salute you, Northern League.
We need your brave stand here in Northern Scandinavia to.
And to the clueless people who wright in from England,(and elsewere)do you not now the sorry state in your own country?
So how is the situation for Christians living in majoritymuslim countries?
Ole H. Johansen, Oslo, NORWAY
Excellent news! We need to do something similiar here in the States.
Dustin, Moore,
If people stayed in their own country instead of settling in others country and trying to change that country to their liking this sort of confrontation would not occur. Uncontrolled immigration always leads to trouble and should be stopped
D Case, Newquay,
Dear Muslims,
You are no longer in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Algeria, or Tunisia. Your religion is not one we respect or wish to hear from. What you do in private, as long as it's legal, is your affair
Get over it, or leave.
Thank you.
The waking western citizens of the world
Mary, Alsace, France
why do people have probelm with muslims, why they don't leave them alone, why do they bothering them always
just leave them alone
they have a right to worship what ever they want like others
why do we people look at them as stranger
just leave them alone
sara, dallas,
Drug dealing, mugging and robbery are not Islamic Rights.
Andy Gill, London,
It is about time that Europe starts to clean up house. Italy must get rid of all its unwanted illegal immigrants, so must the other countries of Western Europe. Enough is enough, how many more can the old continent take in.
Unless immigration is stopped Europe will have troubles.
L.A. ISUFI, Bergen County.N.J, United States
"nazis alive and well in italy"
Get informed before making cheap comments.
Lega Lombarda is a federalist movement, not a fascist movement.
The neo-fascist in the recent elections did not reach the 4% of the vote required to be represented.
Mosque OK but on their own money, not ours.
Paolo, Milano, Italy
This is a good example of why we should not be in the EU, the WASP (White, Anglo-Saxon Protestant) nations have a pragmatic tolerant ethos, whilst the erstwhile Catholic Continetal Europeans are inclined to intolerant dogmatic fanaticism. Is Islamophobia the new politically acceptable anti-Semitism?
May, Hartlepool, England
Worrying developments, particularly with the rise of the Lega Nord. I am not particularly religious & in no way support extreme or inflamatory religious group. I believe in the right of a country to express its national religion but also the basic right to free religious expression. Balance is key.
Rita, London,
No One is saying they can't have a mosque, They are saying that they should pay for, and build their own! Ali-Karim and Caroline from CA would both certainly be offended if their local governments were suggesting that they should pay for the construction of a Baptist Church on public land.
Don P, San Jose, US
Thank God Europe at last starts to protect itself from this invasion. The US has it's own problems with unwanted invaders, and hopefully we will wake up too.If this sounds racist--too bad! If you feel "under siege", go home,and take your Sharia laws with you!
Forza!
mario, oronoco, USA
You see, what I do not understand is what has happened to the values of tolerance seemingly espoused by Europe and the US. Given the fact that the human rights system is strongest in Europe, surely Europeans should remember that one of the key rights is the freedom of religion??
SS, London,
Long live the League. I'm appaled that a teacher was suspended for defending equality between the sexes!
Oscar J., Copenhagen, Denmark
Why can't these people have a place to worship? I am allowed to attend my Catholic church, and they should have the same right.
Caroline, Fountain Valley, CA, USA
This article mentions a "perceived crime spree" but there is no further information. Is there or is there not a crime spree? Is crime up in that area and what percentage of the crime is committed by these new immigrants?
If you print an article, please provide the readers with the pertinent info.
mike, los angeles, usa
IT IS ABOUT TIME THAT EUROPE STOOD UP - BRAVO BOSSI & NORHTERN LEAGUE - remember how the christians were driven from the Levant and how the churches were transformed into mosqus...........if they hate us why do they want to live with us ?
Mau, magliano, italy
Europeans should allow building new mosques in their countries only when Christian churches could be built in Saudi Arabia. In the meantime, Muslims in Europe can say their butts-up-heads-down-facing-Mecca prayers in their homes.
Pete, Ft Lauderdale, Fl, U.S.A.
More power to the League. Europe is still just about a Christian region, and it is from Catholicism that Europe was born and raised. I hope to see such local action not only in Italy, but all over Europe, and, please God, in England too one day.
Benedict Carter, Moscow, Russia
Plurarism and pragmatism should be the virtue of democracy. Every citizen should have equal rights for freedom; rather a rise of Fascism is in the rise in the name of cheap politics. Those who believe in street creed and fascism and romanticizing the idea that will eradicate the corruption are fools
Al-Karim, NYC,
sounds like the nazi's are alive and well in italy ( ... and here in the us .... ). scary.
Teisho, Phoenix, AZ, USA
it's about time! wake up europe you need to worry less about your shoes and handbags and more about your keesters.
Patrick Gigliotti, santa Monica, united States