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The West must confront Russia to prevent another conflict from breaking out in the Caucasus, the President of Georgia has told The Times.
Mikhail Saakashvili said that elements in Russia were intent on provoking trouble in Georgia’s breakaway regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia, and compared Europe’s response to the failures of appeasement in the 1930s.
Georgia is threatening to shoot down Russian fighter jets after Moscow admitted that four aircraft flew over South Ossetia last week. Separatists control the region but it is recognised internationally as part of Georgia. “The situation is precarious and the things they [Russia] are doing are outrageous. Unfortunately, they are not opposed by the Europeans and other players,” Mr Saakashvili said.
“If you can claim a legitimate right to overfly a neighbouring country with the intent to bomb it just because you have your own concerns, that is killing international law.”
Russia said that its jets deterred a Georgian invasion of South Ossetia, a claim dismissed by Tbilisi. The incident became public during a visit to Georgia by Condoleezza Rice, the US Secretary of State, when a senior State Department official gave warning of catastrophe if Russia failed to halt pressure on its former Soviet satellite.
Mr Saakashvili spoke at the Levadia Palace in Yalta, Ukraine, where the wartime allies Winston Churchill, Joseph Stalin and Franklin D. Roosevelt met in 1945 to partition Europe after Germany’s defeat. “I don’t know what is playing out in Russia, but it doesn’t look good. I don’t think they are crazy enough to start a war but seeking trouble seems like an obsession for some people there,” he said.
“The West needs to react to it. For some time I have been hearing that both sides should be exercising restraint. That doesn’t look good to me. It looks like examples from the last century.”
Asked if he believed conflict would break out, Mr Saakashvili replied: “The point is that every day we are waking up with some surprises and when sometimes I think it can’t get any worse, then it does get worse.”
Tensions have soared since April, after Georgia accused the Kremlin of plotting to annex Abkhazia and South Ossetia, which border Russia. The territories broke from Georgia in the early 1990s in wars after the collapse of the Soviet Union.
Georgia has recalled its ambassador to Moscow over the crisis, which comes at a time of growing friction between Russia and the West after the G8 summit in Japan. President Medvedev infuriated Britain and the US by appearing to back sanctions against Zimbabwe, only for Russia to veto them at the United Nations.
Relations with London remain poor after the first meeting between Mr Medvedev and Gordon Brown failed to resolve rows over TNK-BP and the murdered Kremlin critic Alexander Litvinenko.
Georgia regards the crisis as evidence of Moscow’s determination to block its entry into Nato by provoking renewed separatist fighting. The military alliance will consider applications from Georgia and Ukraine in December. Ukraine has expressed concern at attempts to stir up separatism in Crimea. Russia’s Black Sea fleet must leave its Sevastopol base by 2017, but Moscow’s powerful Mayor, Yuri Luzhkov, said recently that it had “a lawful right” to reclaim the port.
Britain’s former Prime Minister Tony Blair told a conference of the Yalta European Strategy (YES) at the Levadia Palace that tensions with Russia over Ukraine’s Nato membership had to be resolved. “Russia sees Ukraine’s membership as threatening Russian interests. It is very important that we continue over time to explain that this is not so,” he said.
YES, founded by the billionaire Viktor Pinchuk, lobbies for Ukraine’s entry into the EU by 2020.
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the orange ukraine (kiev + the west ukraine) is in terror therefore stupid comments. our brothers in south and east -secede from the land of shukhevich's and bandera's!
igor, krasnodar, russia
New synonyms came to Russia:
enforcement to peace - war
enforcement to generosity - armed robbery
enforcement to rest - dismissal
enforcement to health improvement - beating
enforcement to change conditions - arrest
enforcement to wedding - a rape
enforcement to friendship - gas at $500
Alexander, Kyiv, Ukraine
One question, what S. Ossetians, Abkhazians (and also dominating Russian population in many so-called Ukrainian regions) think about all these anti-Russian games. Usually they express their opinion in very simple, clear and understandable forms.
Mikhail, Penza, Russia
I really have no idea where the statements of "Abkhazia was incorporated within Georgia by Stalin" come. Abkhazia had been part of Georgia since at least 10th century AD. I do have original antique maps to prove it. Please stop quoting sources that are incorrect.
Geoff, London, UK
Cold War ended 91, but Russians humiliated by collapse and awash with petro dollars are back and looking to resume the fight. World moved on we are no longer enemies so don't take that posture. To those in Russia threat is now from the M.E and Iran MAD strategy dosnt work. they will use nukes
Kwame, London, United Kingdom
Furthermore, do you also know that about 90% of that 250.000 innocent, civilian population is still internally displaced in other parts of Georgia, because they cannot go back?
Lasha, new york, USA
Gary,
Americans are the only ones who can throw away their Cold War glasses. The respective Russian glasses were broken to pieces in the 1990s. What we see now is just a fueled disappointment of what Russians expected to be their best friend in the democratic world.
Andrei, Novosibirsk, Russia
"Russia wants to rebuild an empire it lost in the Cold War"
Gary, Washington
The only desire Russia has is to protect its borders. The real empire spreads from your home town, Gary.
Anton , Urjupinsk, Russia
@ Tony, San Antonio
Russia never 'invaded' Afghanistan, they were invited there by the legitimate Afghan government at the time. Was the USA given such an invite? And before you bemoan the Taleban and how evil they were, let's not forget that the USA put them in power in the first place.
J Roberts, Manchester, UK
Russia wants to rebuild an empire it lost in the Cold War: First it curbed the free press and the opposition, killed tens of thousands of Chechens in a genocide, and now it wants to kill Georgian democracy and independence.
The West must wake up until it is not too late. Georgia needs help now!
Gary, Washington, DC, US
2 points.
1. Abhkazia is not different than Kosovo. Their stories are very similar. If Kosovo deserves independence, so does Abhkazia
2. Regarding the missile shield. If Russia was installing missiles in northern Mexico, the US would not accept it no matter what reassurances the Russians gave
Armando, Columbus, USA
Abkhazia was a part of USSR as a republic. It was Stalin Georgian who incorporated Abkhazia into Georgia against the wishes of Abkhazians. It is ironic that Western democracies are now supporting the cause of Stalin.
Alex, Riga,
Get in line Georgia-We were here first (a Zimbabwean) and we need the West's help first. Then after that the West got its own axe to grind with Iran and of course whats on-going in Iraq and Afg. Pls be patient as your problem would need a bigger stick to solve and shock horror, we might even lose!
Glynn, Kingston,
Is not a surprise that Georgian ups and downs
in relation with Russia coincide with those with
Britain in US. Georgia is a small "pink revolution"
republic without it's own international politics
funded by "the west".
RG Weiss, St Petersburg, Russia
It's high time for the general public not to fall for war-mongers' propaganda. How much blood do we need to prove again and again the uselessness of war? How many young guys of the newly-independent states/Russia want to become NATO's/Russia's cannon-fodder? The Russian Bear lives in wood..Hollywood
Alexey, Moscow, Russia
Ya man from Ireland has it right. H has it right.Ya man from phoenix has it wrong. Why? Oil and gas through Georgia. Control the area, inflate demand and price to supply 'europe'. Possibly why 'europe' is not doing anything. Typical bullyboy blackmail tactics. Bully a bully and the bully backs down.
CA, Lagos, Nigeria
To - JONI SIMONISHVILI.
That is your personal view, which of course is not right, as recent parliamentary polls ascertained. You should be thinking about state interests and stop spreadinf false information about Georgian democracy.
Beso, Moscow
beso, moscow,
Both the Abkhazian and South Ossetian people have been terrorized by the fascist Georgian regime for many, many years. Georgia doesn't accept the Abkhazian and South Ossetian culture. If Kosovo is allowed to be independent, Abkhazia and South Ossetia have the full right to be independent to.
Seraphiel, Ålesund, Norway
Georgia should solve the problems. And only then to think of connection of other territories. Saakashvilli, feed people, and then think of war.
Zodiak, Samara, Russia
I think the fact that Russia is flying nuclear bomber sorties at the UK is a tad provocative too. As for the missile shield; if you are Russia attacking the US, you fire across the north pole (Shortest/ quickest route) not over European airspace where a nuclear response would be immediate! Think
Richard, Ireland,
The problem is that Saakashviliis is politically and morally bankrupt - and in the fallout of rigged presidential and parlimentary elections, the frozen conflict zones of Abkhazita and South Ossetia are good distractions for failed policies - an anti-poverty program that stillborn - as is democracy.
Joni Simonishvili, Tbilisi , Georgia
The problem is that poltical elite need more power over larger areas, but more and more smaller areas want nothing to do with them, so they see their power fall away so the make up stupid laws saying that people can not make brake away states yet sponers them when its in their favor.
MR W Jones, Liverpool, England
If you need to get oil&gas pipeline from the Kaspian outside Russia, you should back autocratic and offensive leader who likes to tell stories on how he is democratic. Poor US.
Andrei, Novosibirsk, Russia
Russia rolled into Hungary and Czechoslovakia, walled off Berlin for over 25 years with walls and minefields. After Jimmy Carter felt U.S. had an inordinate fear of communism, Russia invaded Afghanistan. Poland is a sovereign nation. Are Anti-ballistic missiles needed near Russia? You tell me.
Tony, San Antonio,
same old propaganda egged on and orchestrated by its behind the scene well known imperialist stooge masters.
jack, la, usa
The Russian bear returns with its Iranian proxy. We all know whats coming.
H, London, Uk
Abkhazia is historically integral part of Georgia where 30000 Georgians were killed just because of their ethnicity and over 350000 were driven out from their homes by Russian Cossacks and Chechen militants thats one of the biggest and mosty ignored ethnic cleansing in Europe.
Val Kvach, London, UK
I'm sick and tired of our country (the USA) putting NATO forces closer and closer to Russia, so that these little punk countries start talking smack to Russia We could have made Russia our best ally....shame on the US for provocations in that part of the world. RU take back Kosovo & defend yourself!
Jason, Phoenix, USA
I don't understand how the United States installing missile launchers in Europe is protecting peace? Or how Georgia attacking a land that has a separate ethnicity that doesn't want to integrate with it helps peace?
To me it seems that Georgia is being sponsored by the US to destabilize the region.
Bob, Weston,