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It is not so much Kill Bill as Kill Adolf. Quentin Tarantino, master of cinematic violence, is about to stir up a hornets’ nest in Germany with a war film that depicts Nazi soldiers having their brains bashed out with a baseball bat wielded by a vengeful American.
Even by the stomach-curdling standards of the US director – the maker of Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs – the new film is a veritable blood bath.
Filming starts in Berlin on October 13 and the controversial director is already in the German capital making his final casting decisions. The star role is to be played by Brad Pitt. His character, Lieutenant Aldo Raine, leads a group of American-Jewish soldiers who are dropped into Nazi-occupied Europe to wreak revenge on the Germans and destroy their morale.
The tone of the film, provisionally entitled Inglorious Bastards, is set early on by Lieutenant Raine in a pep talk to his men. According to a leaked version of the script, the officer says: “Every man under my command owes me one hundred Nazi scalps . . . and y’all will git me one hundred Nazi scalps, taken from the heads of one hundred dead Nazis, or die trying.”
It is not just the scalping, or the carving of swastikas in foreheads, or the shooting of a German officer’s testicles, or the slow strangling scene – all shown with Tarantino’s customary love of detail – that is likely to upset the nation and its critics. It is the whole idea of turning the Second World War into a comic book adventure in which not a single German character has redeeming value.
To judge by the leaked Tarantino script, the only good German is a dead one – with the suspense concentrated on how he should die. For modern Germany that represents a regression to the days of the crudest antiGerman war propaganda.
“This is pop culture encountering Nazi Germany and the Holocaust with unprecedented force,” said Tobias Kniebe, film critic of the Süddeutsche Zeitung. “The effects of this collision are utterly unpredictable.”
For 60 years German film-makers have used war films as a pedagogic device to show how good Germans should have reacted to the Nazi terror. There has been anguished debate about whether Hollywood should be allowed to make a film about Count Claus Schenk von Stauffenberg, the man who tried to blow up Hitler and the closest that the country has to a war hero. The film, starring Tom Cruise, has yet to be screened but Germany’s critics have been sharpening their pens, ready to knock it when it eventually sees the light of day.
The Tarantino film, though, is more likely to give German critics cardiac arrest rather than the perverse pleasure of writing a bad review. “All the German historians and critics who were left gasping for breath by Tom Cruise and his worthy attempts to produce a correct image of Stauffenberg – they will be so shocked by Inglorious Bastardsthat they will savage it on the spot,” said Kniebe. “And perhaps that is precisely [Tarantino’s] plan.” In fact the director is emphasising that the film will not really be about war at all, still less about Germany.
“I don’t want it to feel like a period film,” said Tarantino in an interview before coming to Berlin. “This is a modern, in-your-face movie.”
The film appears to follow in the tradition of The Dirty Dozen – the 1967 work starring Lee Marvin that debunked the standard cinematic American war hero by sending hardened, unbalanced convicts on a suicide mission. There is more than a nod, too, in the direction of an 1978 Italian film, also called Inglorious Bastards, which features anarchic gun-happy deserters in German-occupied France. But if the leaked script bears any resemblance to the final product – he wants the film ready for the Cannes Festival next year – this will be pure Tarantino, right down to the brain tissue splattered on the walls.
Cinematic conflicts
— Steven Spielberg’s Munich, above, provoked rage among conservative critics in 2005 for suggesting that the West had a role in perpetuating the violence in the Middle East
— Yamato: The Last Battle, a Japanese film about a battleship sunk by Americans in the Second World War, provoked anger in 2005. China and South Korea, Japan’s former enemies, objected to its sympathetic portrayal of the crew
— Ken Burn’s 14-hour film about the US role in the Second World War was criticised for entirely ignoring the 500,000 Latino GIs who served in the US forces
— The Sri Lankan High Commission protested to the British Board of Film Certification in 2003, asking for the film In the Name of Buddha to be banned. It argued that its graphic violence would upset peace talks with the Tamil Tigers
— Clint Eastwood’s film Flags of Our Fathers provoked a war of words between the director and Spike Lee after Lee accused Eastwood of ignoring the African-American contribution to the Second World War
— Catholics rallied against Elizabeth: The Golden Age, claiming that the battle scenes painted Catholics in a uniformly evil light
Source: Times Archive
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The problem I see with this film is not that it portrays Nazis as evil, but that it portrays all Germans as evil and inhuman. This is far from true. The majority of all German soldiers in WWII were not Nazis; they were soldiers fighting for their country in exactly the same way the Allies were.
Tom Wallder, Myrtleford, Australia
From what I gather, this film is portraying Nazis as evil. Ummmmm......what's wrong with that? Is QT supposed to portray them as good? Anyway, I think it's a bit premature to be crying about it yet....when they haven't even started filming yet.
Alex Green, Danbury, USA
People who commit crimes based on these films are sick to begin with. Art reflects reality, and unfortunately we live in violent times. Its downright lazy to blame these films for inciting violence. Let's stop using QT as a scapegoat and get to the root of the problems, shall we?
Alex Green, Danbury, USA
"Why doesn't Tarantino uses his time and energy to help cure AIDS or cancer..."
Why don't you?
Quentin Tarantino is undoubtedly the greatest filmmaker alive today. This film sounds like its going to be just as fresh, exciting, and original as "Pulp Fiction," "Kill Bill," "Res. Dogs," etc.
Alex Green, Danbury, CT, USA
If you can't handle some gore in your films, don't go see it, but please, don't turn your nose down at people who enjoy QT movies. If you have even deigned to watch the man's films, you'd know that the only TRULY gory movie he's made is Kill Bill 1.
Alex Green, Danbury, USA
Germany is a political and economic powerhouse in europe. It is also a highly civilised and culturally aware place that appreciate art and forms of expression.
Where Germany is now compared to where it was then is totally different.
Things change, deal with it.
steve, milton keynes, england
Sedgwick - ... and your point is? Neutrality means that you don't choose a side. Having said that more British fought for Hitler than Irish during WWII. Maybe the question should be "What side was your grandfather on?"
Schaffer, Dublin, Ireland
If I were Mr Tarantino or any of his associates in this movie production, I would be afraid for my life. In Germany,even today, there are persons who I think will not take kindly to their efforts.
Jon Maynard, Lansing MI, USA
John Fitzgerald - remind me who's side Ireland was on during the war?
Sedgwick, London, UK
Easy know what the intention is here. I am surprised the German Government is allowing the German people to be once again maliciously Insulted by a Hollywood racist style film against Germany based on what the National Socialists did from 1933 to 1945. Yet Another to be Sicko & Tasteless dumb Movie.
John Fitzgerald, Dublin, Ireland
Apart from simply killing Nazis: Why bother about a man who has already run out steam after only five films? He likes to shock and will ever do. But the only thing he can produce next is a stupid remake from a stupid, pulp original film. Come on, the man is past already!
Frank, Brunswick, Germany
It doesn't matter if the film will be historically correct or not. A remake? Tarantino has no original idea anymore, that's the truth, Tarantino-afficinados. Expect a violent, stupid dialogue-driven and boring film.
Jan, Hanover, Germany
Ladies and Gentlemen: its a film. Relax. It is fiction. It is Tarantino attempting to entertain through shock. It is not history. It is not promoted as a representation of history. It is a screenplay. If you don't like it, don't watch it.
Jim P, Sacramento, California
Tarantino's whole intellectual and artistic development comes from watching videos. It shows in his films.
Bill Harding, York,
Never liked Tarantino. Like him less now.
Vaughn, Dixie,
It's about time someone saw the Germans for what they are. The truth hurts.
Pat, Phoenix, USA
Hey Mel from Berlin,
Your comments just prove my point. Hating Jews is a German sport.
Pat, Phoenix, USA
How come all Nazis in the movies seem to have posh English public school accents?
James, Beijing, China
While Dachau surely wasn't a pleasant place, not a single Jew was gassed there. When the American forces arrived in 1945, they massacred dozens of the German guards, not even bothering with setting up a kangaroo court first. So there might be some truth to Tarantino's script after all.
Riccardo Delle Acque, Milan, Italy
We must adopt the Eastern Thugocracy model and forget our Anglo-Saxon legal system? No courts, no evidence, no jury of peers, just assume all guilty as charged and beat them to death for their alleged crimes. What kind of animalistic message is this and where does it really come from?
Errol Cunningham, Newark, USA
Barney, Liverpool, UK said, "I know German people and they are still very embarrassed about their past. "
Sure, wouldn't you be if your side lost. What if the outcome was different. Would they still be embarrassed?
Josh , Birmingham , UK
The irony of this film is that Northern European-looking Brad Pitt has to be used for the lead role of the heroic Jewish commando -- rather than a distinctly Jewish-looking actor.
The essential component of Nazi racism is being internalized and promoted in an intendedly anti-Nazi film.
Paul, USA,
Sounds like the movie is all about intense hatred and blood thirst. But the hatred is totally misdirected. Why Nazi soldiers? Weren't they like soldiers of any other country? Instead the movie should beat up on evil Nazi scientists who sold the idea of eugenics and evolution to German people!
Jay Linnstrom, Los Angeles, USA
As usual the only people it is OK to hate in Hollywood is the white guys. While we are all cheering the defeat of the Nazi's 60 years ago, America is slowly becoming a non-white country. It was in the headlines just yesterday. By 2046 Whites will no longer be the majority in this nation. Think.
Brian Hendrick, Belleville , USA
Why do people get so offended over a movie? It is one man's ideas on a big screen. It has nothing to do with the real world. If this movie claimed to be based in historical facts then we have a problem, but the article cleary states it is not. If you don't like it don't see it...
Lindz, Maryville, USA
During the war, how many good Nazis were there?
Sedgwick, London, UK
''When will be able to move on?''. Surely we have moved on. If we prevent film makers any creative freedom in depicting past events we are returing to a time of state controlled film industries when government told film makers what they could and couldn't do i.e Nazi Germany.
Joey, Buckhurst Hill, UK
So it's ok to make like 80 million video games, where the player's prime objective is to snag as many Nazi "head shots" as possible, but QT can't make a COMPLETELY fictitious movie about killing Hitler's henchmen?
Bill Lindow, Bayonne, NJ, USA
I don't think it'll be an easy film to watch, but I like Tarantino's films so I'll be seeing this.
To those who want to ban it, why are you trying to force your views on me? If you don't like it, don't watch it. Leave me alone to make up my own decisions, I'm an adult. Clearly you are not.
Cronan, London, UK
It's the worst kind of ludicrous fiction. And the portrayal of jews in the movie as disgusting, brutal thugs will, guaranteed, be offset by equally awful [fictitious] Wehrmacht behavior which will force the noble jews to respond savagely.
Iona, LONDON, England
If I were German, I would be starting a loud protest against this film on every website I could post to.
Hestia Brown, NY, USA
Qentin Tarrantino has for a long time been a symbol of violence and now he is dabbling in violence mixed with racism(Anti-German). Only a sick & unstable person can derive any viewing pleasure by watching a film that depicts mutilation perhaps not even envisaged by the cruelest Gestapo agent.
Peter, Sydney, Australia
When will we be allowed to put the past behind us and move on? When will we be allowed to have pride in our country once again?
Klara
When will Germany be allowed to put the past behind it and move on? When will Germany be forgiven and begin to reclaim its pride?
Best to ask a Israeli?
kevin, Lincoln, UK
Someone commented on political correctness. He has it wrong,. Its always politically correct to portray Germans negatively. Its politically incorrect to say something good about them. Its politically incorrect to say anything negative about Jews. Don't criticize Israel, Jews or a single Jew.
Peter, San Jose , USA
These are cartoon nazis being blown up - if the hand-wringing don't-offend-anybody PC brigade don't like it, don't go see it ! What do you people want - every bad guy in every film to be a space robot ??
Pete R., Sokte-on-Trent, UK
-The Americans were not great soldiers. The British were better trained and the Russians were much tougher. This comes from the most disciplined and best trained soldiers in the world. Thats why the western allies let the Russians do all the fighting. Russia lost 10 million soldiers,US 400000
Peter, San Jose , USA
More excerpts from the Tarantino script here :
www.yournewreality.blogspot.com
His Hitler dialogue is, errr, not so great.
Inglorious Bastards is supposed to be a revenge fantasy, not based at all in history or fact.
Darryl Mason, Sydney, Australia
As someone who is half German, I am disgusted by this film. The Germans have been insulted enough. The Nazis were awful, despicable people, but this goes too far. When will we be allowed to put the past behind us and move on? When will we be allowed to have pride in our country once again?
Klara, New Canaan, USA
Political Correctness will be the end of us all, my goodness. It will be a brutal movie, just like the zillion other ones out there..the key here is that Nazis die..who doesen't like that? Not Germans, Nazis.
USA ! Land of the free. FTW!
jojo, Elgin, USA
Martyn Davies, Arzal, France,
The irony is, the world just can't get enough of U.S. culture. If only we could fuel our cars on DVDs.
T. J. Cassidy, Arlington, Virginia, U.S.A.
I agree. The only good Nazi is a dead one.
Joseph Mills, Atlanta, USA
Hollywood is incapable of producing anything but filth these days, so it goes without saying that Tarantino is the master of it. Hollywood believes in their own propaganda of shaping society's culture but the unfortunate consequences is seen nightly on the news in America.
Dan, Seattle, USA
OK Nazis make the best villains!
QT has to be careful though that his film doesn't perpetuate the myth that ALL Germans were bad during WWII. The Wehrmacht and Waffen SS were responsible - not 'the Germans'.
I know German people and they are still very embarrassed about their past.
Barney, Liverpool, UK
Thank you Mr Tarantino I love all of you pictures. Please! continue your great work . Thank you, Thank you for not been BOORING!!!
and giving me a vacation from middle class booring values.
Carmen Perez G, Monterrey, MX
Sounds like a great film. I'll go and watch.
Anthony, London,
Freedom of speech is exactly what allows films (and this comment forum) to exist. We tread into dangerous territory if we allow the government to decide what things should and should not be said. If you are for freedom of speech it means *everyone's* speech, not just your own.
Brian, Pittsburgh, USA
I think some people just need to get over themselves. It's a movie, not an actual bloodbath. If anyone looks at drama through out history, including Shakespeare, there's a great deal of violence. I simply don't think anyone should be so quick to judge a film until they actually see it.
Nathan Post, Kent, US
I live in Germany,and I can't wait to see it. As I live very close to Dachau where they gassed many jews by the lorry load, this is some thing which they rarely talk about. You confront them with raw hard facts, they'd find the nearest hole to bury their heads in. Q Tarantino, qudos to being bold.
Faz, Eching, Germany
Nothing Tarantino could do would match the real brutality of 1939 to 1945. If modern film makers wish to make any point at all about it, thus raising awareness of this grim period in human history, it's a good thing. Why? - so that it never happens again.
Bill Bird, Wallasey, Wirral
The United States is the cultural cess pit of the world. Their 'entertainment' consists entirely of violence, pornography and foul language, their President can't string two words together but yet they consider the 'land of the free' to be the greatest nation on earth. God help us.
Martyn Davies, Arzal, France
I can't wait to see this film. I love blood bath movies. I wish I could be the first person to see it. And yes as far as its the nazis, really they got what they got and now we can do what we do with everything and that is make fun or make it horror. I love you Vintage.
O. Love
Omny, mesa, USA
wonder what would happen if all the american allies starting making films about all the brutal crimes the american empire has committed! americans are always pointing fingers at someone else, yet they, and Israel are committing the worst crimes since the war ended...63YEARS AGO
Mel Prophet, Berlin, Germany
I saw Tarantino on UK TV the other month. He is a REAL weirdo !.
michael, london, uk
What Germany started the USA tried to finish - they're still at it and it seems won't be able to finish after all....
L Schicklgraber, Phoenix, USA
He is a great artist. Charlie Chaplin's film about Hitler wasn't true to life either. I'll be happy to see the little dictator and his minions get their just deserts in true Q.T. style
Bill Anderson, York, USA
how is this any different than "saving private ryan". except that "SPR" masquaraded as a realistic if not true story and tarantino's film will obviously be cartoonish. as i remember it, there aren't any good germans in SPR either.
alex, Los Angeles,
My ex neighbour lets his 8-year old daughter watch things like this. "It's OK", he says "She's watched stuff like this since she was little, she's desensitised".
As if that's a GOOD thing.
M.M., Stockport,
Why do so many take Hollywood seriously? It is mostly pap,
put out by people who have an inflated opinion of themselves
Every once in great while they even make something slightly entertaining..They're cool we aren't.
Mojo Schneider, Mason, USA
Tarantino is gloriously politically incorrect in many ways. By horribly exaggerating the politically correct attitudes about Germans, Germany, and our side in the war, it probably is not only funny, but strangely satirical.
Some folks missed how funny Pulp Fiction was, the comedy was so black.
RPhillips, Shiloh, GA, USA
So, political correctness has reached such a high that even ant-nazi movies are verboten. What would Winston say?
Too bad he doesn't do a movies about our war-time ally, Stalin, who killed more of his own countrymen than Hitler.
That would really "offend" all of the whiners out there.
Steve, Miami, Florida, USA
Never Forget. They killed 12.8 million people. Germany still has much to answer for.
JJ, Ohio,
Chris,
(Why doesn't Tarantino uses his time and energy to help cure AIDS or ...)
Why doesn't he make movies about puppy dogs or rainbows? Give me a break, he's a filmmaker. He doesn't have to be Bono if he doesn't want to.
Jim, Chicago,
This sounds like it has all the makings of a great action flick!
Bruce, Chicago, USA
Tarantino best work ended with Pulp Fiction. This will be another overindulgent exercise for Tarantino and a complete waste of time for the audience.
Stanley , NYC, USA
Will Mr. Tarantino contemplate making an action-movie based on the Nazi "war of annihilation" waged against the USSR?. The tragically horrendous real-life accounts of the obsessive violence administered and received by both sides would make a fine movie to pander to modern ghouls AND historians.
Albert Grudge, Taunton, UK
Why doesn't Tarantino uses his time and energy to help cure AIDS or cancer or rebuild New Orelans or fight poverty or something useful for a change. I'm so tired of his immature and disgusting temper tantrums that reveal themselves on film every few years.
Chris DiCesare, New York, USA
Every view of history is fiction. Some more ridiculous than others. At lest, the Tarantino version will be interesting to watch.
Calvin, Philadelphia, usa
Looking forward to seeing it. Kill Bill 1 made no sense.. until you watched Kill Bill 2. Love him or hate him, Tarantino is a very talented artist. If he was making America look bad he would be getting all kinds of accolades. But please do not pick on Germany.
David, St Louis MO, USA
Tarantino isn't doing anything new that Hollywood didn't used to do. The only problem is the somber guilt that has blanketed the industry in the past few decades has resulted in trite, impotently didactic message films about our past agressions.
Let him blow it up, it's been stale for too long.
Harry Perales, Houston, TX
Very cool
Von Stompengutz, Georgia, US
Tarantino's use of violence in his films is tantamount to stand up comics who do nothing but utter obscenities to get cheap laughs. It's lazy comedy and lazy film making. Why was Hitchcock so terrifying? Because he left the worst to your mind. Tarantino is nothing but a hack film maker.
Bob Jeffries, Hollywood, CA, USA
If media portrayals to not effect us, why then do business large and small spend billions advertising themselves to try effect our behavior and decisions. It must work or they would not continue to do it.
Patrick Dowd, Kailua Kona, USA
What kind of a sick maniac wants to produce movies like this?
This film should be banned. Tarantino arrested and sent to do community work helping poor communities struggling with violence and crime....I could think of a few places here in Brazil that could do with some help
Peter, Fortaleza, Brazil
Here is one movie I definitely won't be seeing. I believe in free speech and all that, but just because a movie *can* be made doesn't mean it *should* be made. This movie should be boycotted everywhere by everyone, but, sadly, I doubt that will happen.
Evan, Los Angeles, USA
Instead of criticizing what will obviously be lowest common denomitor entertainment, and citing this as a reason for not even deeming it to be a viable form there of, maybe we should realise that the same could be said about anything, and by anyone, dependent on their point of view.
David Cottle, Shrewsbury, UK
Tarantino is precisely the film equivalent of a writer of graphic novels (fancy dark comic books) rather than a novelist.
Anyone who goes to see this is responding to the urges of adolescent overheated glands.
JOHN CHUCKMAN, Toronto, Canada
Perversion as high Art. Here we go again.
Julian, Finchampstead, UK
Just what the world needs more of: Violence in media and the media claiming it has no effect on us. So, if media doesn't affect us, then why do we read, watch, and listen? If it doesn't shape the way we think, act, and believe, then why do we need it? If it doesn't move us, then why have it?
Tom Roberts, Tokyo, Japan