James Hider in Athens
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Thousands of Greek protesters clashed with riot police yet again in Athens today, as police started to run out of tear gas after battling rioters day and night for a whole week.
Police sources said their riot squads had fired 4,600 tear gas canisters this week as rioters torched hundreds of banks and shops and occupied their campuses, where police after forbidden by law from entering.
The police have asked Israel and Germany to send them emergency supplies, while protesters claimed that they had been using old stock from the 1980s in a desperate bid to contain the rioting. They claimed that corroded chemicals were causing some demonstrators to collapse and need medical attention.
“We found tear gas canister dated from 1981,” said one demonstrator, calling himself only GK. “The old chemicals make us sick, people have fainted and have trouble breathing,” he said.
With the running street battles showing no sign of letting up, a march by students, anarchists and youths in masks ran into immediate trouble as rioters hurled rocks, fruit and chairs from street cafes at police trying to contain the latest rally.
Police responded by firing stun grenades and snatching rock-throwers who approached too close, at one point knocking down a Greek journalist with their plastic shields. As the masses approached parliament and challenged the police ranks, officers used remaining supplies of tear gas to drive them from the square before the assembly building.
The demonstrations started a week ago after a police officer shot dead a 15-year-old boy, claiming he had fired a warning shot in the air as youths threatened him and a fellow officer. The two policemen are in detention, with their defence lawyer claiming that an as yet unreleased ballistics report shows the boy was killed by a ricochet rather than by direct fire.
But the anger unleashed by the killing has acted as a lightning rod for smouldering discontent at a variety of social ills, from unemployment to police brutality and government corruption.
Left-wing demonstrators today chanted “Cops are murderers” and carried placards saying “Bullets in the kids, money in the bank” and “Down with the government of property and privatization”. One protester had even trained his pet dog to carry a poster in its mouth with the logo “Down with the state and all masters.”
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Left wing oposition parties? These demonstrators are anarchists note: anarchy means without rulers. Not as many believe means chaos so anarchists want no coercion or hierarchy oppressing them and from what I can tell there is a lot oppressing them At the moment
Andy Malroes, redwood,
When will we in the USA start doing the same thing? Before or after all our money is gone?
Robert, Cary, USA
Pray for Greece, it needs it. The democracy deficit is real and it's starting to show up in the streets.
Josh - US free market medicine is more lip service than reality. Prices are set by Medicare and the private insurers pay some delta off of the government rate across the board.
TMLutas, Munster, IN, USA
Events like these are fires that will simply have to burn themselves out, very much like the financial meltdown with banks etc having to plug that calamitous crevice of (toxic) debt. This takes time, and people are impatient. Greece will survive and the world will be back on its feet.
RIck Thomas, Salford, UK
Spray them down with fire truck hoses, and put a dipilatory in the water. Then they will have to go back to their lives and jobs missing hair, eyebrows and eyelashes-marked for who they are-rioters with no respect for other's property.
Todd, Atlanta, USA
Look we just had a fifteen year old boy shot here in Australia, not a mistaken richocet either, six bullets in the chest. A bit of outrage and soul searching for a better way, but no riots. The left are fuelling this with hate and should be held accoutnable.
John Herbert, Hobart, Australia
The fact of the matter is, these 26 year old canisters are dangerous. - Josh
So is throwing molotov cocktails, setting fire to police offiers and damaging over 500 shops and other looting, Josh.
A lot of these "demonstrators" are now "Rioters."
Mitchell, Goose Creek, USA
I have a variety of things to say to all of you who have commented on this tragic event so far.
Mibu, if this is the result of transnational socialism, why is the United States of America caught up in it? Our country is a place where socialism itself is almost a swearword.
Josh, San Francisco, United States of America
Our health care system is obviously not socialized, judging by the fact that there are 47 million people without insurance, we have the highest health care prices in the industrialized world, and 18,000 people are dying each year because they can't get health care. America is not socialized.
Josh, San Fransisco, United States of America
Concerning the oil crisis, we are fine.Oil prices are back to their normal rate if not below, and we inaugurate a president in January who recognizes the dangers posed by speculation and marketing meltdowns in oil.Americans are buying fuel efficient cars.This is not the end of Western civilization.
Josh, San Fransisco, United States of America
The economy is holding.The DoW Industrial Index, after a short drop, is back up, and we will have the proper stimulus packages granted with this new administration.Western Civilization is having trouble, but this is not the beginning of its collapse.And this is definitely not caused by socialism.
Josh, San Fransisco, United States of America
Alex in the UK, this is definitely not just mindless violence. This is the issues of the country coming out into the streets. Greece is a country with many problems at the moment, and these are being expressed in the unhappiness of the people. This isn't just the usual greed and violence.
Josh, San Fransisco, United States of America
Mitchell, tear gas is used because it is humane. If we were to substitute the tear gas for bullets, would you have the same response of making fun of them "It's hard to riot when the police use weapons that hinder us!" The fact of the matter is, these 26 year old canisters are dangerous.
Josh, San Fransisco, United States of America
Do the Greeks not have weapons? Enough Good 'old boys down here had the firepower to 'discourage' allot of the looting our hoodlum element tried, during Katrina. Then the Army showed up and smothered it, and not with compassion. These are Left Fringe Radicals, not Gandhi.
AWS, New Orleans, USA
Tear gas that makes people sick beyond its supposed temporary effect is a chemical weapon by the US definition. Didn't someone in Iraq get in trouble with the US for gassing his citizens who had an uprising? Second, Ayn Rand? Are you kidding? Look what global unregulated greed has done.
Chris, Tampa, FL, USA
My experience with visiting nations on the Med sea is that all the people are way too nationalistic and don't really like visitors; even though we are spending money in their countries. I've been to Turkey, Cyprus, Barcelona, and Naples, I'll definetly pass on going to Greece based on those 4 visits
josh, fahaheel, kuwait
Its time to bring about change - this is not about race, religion, nationality, etc. this about the division between the "haves" and the "have-nots" and that is not a problem that is unique to any one country.
rEVOLUTION
Adam L Tucker, San Diego, USA
This may very well be the beginning of the end of western civilzation. Between the oil crisis and economic collapse, the western nations are on the brink of chaos which could make the Thirty Years War look like a picnic. This is what transnational socialism does. Ayn Rand was right.
MiBu, Washington, DC, USA
What is going on in Greece is the left wing opposition parties are encouraging these kids to riot in order to hurt the ruling centre-right party. But it is the protectionist policies advocated by the left that makes it hard for young Greeks to get into university and get jobs when they finish.
Nick, Washington, DC, USA
The shooting of the kid was the last straw,.... this is more about Revolution, Corrupt Govt
PATRIOT, Hamilton,
This is no more shameful than the forest fires which swept the country in 2007 during which more than 60 people died. this regime like many terrorizes to take rights from its people. all we want is infrastructure- protection of youth (education) and the environment (a ministry which works)
N, Athens, Greece
The police need to establish a daily bag limit for their officers, then give orders to start busting some heads and locking these spoiled leftist radical students in cages to cool off for a few months. They could use Guantanamo as an example, and convert a desolate Greek island into a work camp.
Dennis Mitchell, Chicago, USA
It is very common to think, judge and criticise from our point of view; this is the easy way. The hard way is to try and really understand, to put ourselves in the others positions and then do the thinking. What is missing is a world, governments and communities that humanity is above all.
GeorgeM, Athens, Hellas
Well they are attacking policemen for killing a 15 year old boy and attacking the banks and government and attacking privatization. i think these people are right and should continue. "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." JFK
Mike, Toronto, Canada
The old chemicals make us sick, people have fainted and have trouble breathing, he said. - In other words: "Please send the police newer gas canisters that don't make us sick! It's hard to riot when the police use weapons that hinder us!!" --- Good God, please have mercy on the people of Greece.
Mitchell, Charleston, USA
Very sad, in so many ways. I have many friends of Greek origin, and to a person they are all so nice, the best friends you could ever wish for. My sincere prayers go to the policeman, his family and certainly to the family of the 15 year old young man who was shot. A tragic event.
tom robinson, candler nc, usa
This is nothing more than mindless violence. Mind you, any violence is mindless so my sympathy is with any police officer just doing his job.
Alex, Bournemouth, UK
The policemen are charged. The kid is now resting in peace. My home town is charcoaled to bits by little hooligans who found an excuse to destroy. I am appalled by this reaction. It does not make it any better. We are humiliated to the world by these vandals. We will never change.
AT, Athens, GR,
This is just the beginning
olli, Bristol,
Why is the Euro so strong when Greece so accurately reflects the 'New Europeans?' Does Merkel think that the Bundesbank can discipline everyone?
Eric Skelton, Cardiff, Wales