David Sharrock, Ireland Correspondent of The Times
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Secret talks between Iraqi Sunni and Shia groups ended yesterday after they heard from Martin McGuinness and former loyalist prisoners about making peace in Northern Ireland.
The former chief of staff of the Provisional IRA, who is now Deputy First Minister in Northern Ireland’s power-sharing executive, was one of 30 participants at the four-day seminar held at a secret location in Finland.
Organisers declined to say whether the meeting, attended by some 30 participants, helped to bring the two sides closer. But one source last night described the mood of the meeting as “guardedly optimistic”.
Meeri-Maria Jaarva, a spokeswoman for the conflict-prevention group Crisis Management Initiative, confirmed that the meeting was over, but declined to comment further.
The group, headed by the former Finnish President Martti Ahtisaari, convened the seminar together with the John W. McCormack Graduate School of Policy Studies of the University of Massachusetts Boston.
Mr Ahtisaari, who did not attend the meetings, said it was now up to the Iraqis whether they want to continue the process started in Finland, the Finnish state broadcaster YLE reported.
Mr Ahtisaari was a member of an international group that inspected Provisional IRA weapons dumps in Ireland before they were decommissioned.
Although organisers have declined to identify participants, representatives of the radical Shia cleric Hojatoleslam Moqtada al-Sadr; Adnan al-Dulaimi, the leader of the largest Sunni Arab political group; and Humam Hammoudi, the Shia chairman of the Iraqi Parliament’s Foreign Affairs committee, are reported to have attended the seminar.
From Northern Ireland, Mr McGuinness was accompanied by Leo Green, a former IRA hunger striker. Both men have also been involved in talks in the Spanish Basque Country and Sri Lanka.
Jeffrey Donaldson, of the Democratic Unionist Party and Billy Hutchinson, a former senior member of the Ulster Volunteer Force who served a lengthy prison sentence for murder, also attended. Mr Hutchinson went on to be elected to the Northern Ireland Assembly for the Progressive Unionist Party.
Lord Alderdice, the former Speaker of the Northern Ireland Assembly, was also present at the talks, as were representatives from South Africa. The venue and other details were kept secret to allow the participants to meet in peace, Ms Jaarva said.
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The people at the top in Northern Ireland now might have kissed and made up - they've all made personal fortunes out of power sharing.But what about the people on the street? Have they been reconciled?You only have to read the news to see that there are still big problems with paramilitiaries in Northern Ireland .These people still rule the roost.
As for Colm O'Grady's comment ,I haven't heard Bertie and the electorate in the south begging for a united Ireland.They couldn't afford the north,its far too expensive.Only the idiotic Brits keep sending over shedloads of money to keep Paisley and his new best friends in the manner to which they have become accustomed..
Jan, London, England
The Irish maen are hardly a good example to anyone. Afterall they failed in what they set out to do and have actually turned full circle. Their aim was always to remove Britain from Ireland by any means necessary. After 30 years of killings and maiming it suddenly dawned on they that their war wasnt working and began running Northern Ireland for the British. Like Michael Collins before them they have the problem to be sorted out by another generation. Sadly as long as Britain remains in Ireland it will always be challenged by Irishmen regardless how small in number. So going back to the Iraqi situation the root causes of conflict need to be addressed rather than opting for a quick settlement and a few prisoners being released.
colm o grady, Dundalk, Ireland
It's a pity that two of the three comments posted fail to take into account the severity of the topic being discussed but instead rely on petty quips exposing an ignorance about events that occurred on their own doorstep.
Ronan mcKegney, Torrevieja, Spain
I suspect the true answer for MM would be 'work for one side openly, and work for the others side secretly'. How that helps Shia-Sunni question I don't know.
Edwin, Glasgow, UK
Whether they listen to any of the NI Lessons from Mr. McGuinness or from the loyalist prisoners, I think the fact that they are engaged in this discussion shows a desire on the part of some to move forward and explore peace. Question is, can you get enough of the warring factions on board? Difficult to do, but the message probably was something like this: Any Sectarian Group Can Decide To Wage An Armed Fight, But At The End of the Next Decade, You Will Still Find Yourself Confronted With the Same Hard Choices You Have Now, So You'd Better Find A Cross-Sectarian Political Solution, Because Ultimately You Will Need One.
Rick Howard, Sellersville, PA
Sir,
Sinn Fein, ah this reminds me of how our US allies "helped" us in regard to US funded terrorism.
SC, London, United Kingdom
He probably told them to maintain the armed struggle - it worked for the IRA. He can probably give them the names of a few good black market arms dealers.
Ellen Morris, Leeds,
The Shia are very close to Catholics in their beliefs in sinless Holy Mary, and a perfect Jesus, as well as a divine authority to guide the people and interpret the scriptures. The Ayatollah of Shias is like the Pope of the Catholics. Sunnis are very similar to Protestants. I hope that Martin McGuinness will succeed in helping to bring the two factions together. If Christians can help establish peace between Muslims of different dimoninations, then this would a wonderful things. We all love Jesus in our own ways, and I think we should let this love be bases of peace and love between all believers.
Z Hussain, Rochdale, UK
don,t waist your time mates. it is very likely that iran has sent both groups to you to hold talks just to keep you busy with these trivial talks so that it can carry on doing it,s work quietly.
one year after the iran_iraq war when the iraqi army left the southern city of khoramshahr and offered peace to iran the mullas refused to accept the un resolution and carried on fighting for another seven years in order to get basra.and now that the british have given it to them do you realy think that they are going to give it back by holding secret talks in finland?
that,s a joke my friends.yoiu need to look at the broader picture
dedesertman, london,
I wonder if the opposing sides, i.e. Shia and Sunni, actually know what they want. This I fear, is the burning question.
Steve Calascione, Nederland,