Matthew Parris: Against the war
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Dear David,
“Isn’t it exhausting,” you say, “this merry-go-round of argument, always in motion, never going anywhere?” “I sighed” (you add) “to see ancient quotes . . . ” “We must” (you conclude) “begin to look at Iraq in the longer term . . . ”
Actually, no. It isn’t exhausting. This argument is vital. Nor is it true that it’s “never going anywhere”. It has moved and it’s moving. It has moved in the direction of demonstrating the deep unwisdom of the doctrine of quick-fire armed intervention by Washington, without international sanction, to remove old regimes and install new ones. You supported that doctrine.
The old quotes matter because your voice was influential among British columnists and gave comfort to politicians, particularly new Labour politicians, not least because you came not from the Right, but enjoyed, instead, the credentials of a left-of-centre thinker and journalist.
I am pleased to see you now think that with the benefit of hindsight the whole thing was a mistake. Perhaps I should have picked this up more clearly from your columns over the years but I must say I had not.
You now ask that we desist from what you suggest is a wearisome and useless argument. Again, no. If I thought that the opinions of columnists and commentators in Britain and abroad were of no account, I would cease to write for newspapers. If I thought that arguments between media voices were so much futile babble, going nowhere, I would not contribute to them. If I thought that all necessary lessons had now been learnt from Britain’s colossal blunder in the Middle East, and the implications for future policy agreed, I would be happy to move on, as (echoing a favourite phrase of the instigator of Britain’s part in this war, Tony Blair) you seem to urge.
But I won’t move on. The neocons and their supporters have lost this argument, David, and they have done Britain and Britain’s standing in the world tremendous damage. I do not lay to their discredit the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi deaths, as I do not think they envisaged these, and nor am I sure Iraq’s history would in the end have allowed the region to be stabilised by anything other than exhaustion. But there have been British deaths, too, and all to no purpose – or no result.
You ask me to direct my thoughts and our discussion towards the future of Iraq, starting from where we are now. Again, no. We are almost powerless to determine that future. Heaven knows what the British Cabinet think any more, but what perhaps you, your British fellow hawks and a range of American voices have yet to acknowledge is that the United States – still less we British – has lost leverage. It is almost out of our hands. The situation is probably farther from our control than would have been the case if the invasion had never taken place. For you and me to discuss the future of Iraq and what ought to happen there and why really would be exhausting because it’s pointless.
There remains point in argument about the past: for two reasons. If we can agree without qualification that this intervention was a very bad idea, and that those who supported it erred, we can perhaps nail down the coffin of American imperialism, separate Britain’s reputation and good name from the Bush Administration and its ideas and discredit support for American unilateralism among British journalists.
Join me in this, David, and I shall be happy to “move on”
Yours sincerely,
M Parris
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Truth be told: If Saddam Hussein & his Iraq had ever really been a threat the West could have reduced it to cinders at any time, & that still applies to many perceived 'terrorist ' States. The point is that war is big business & benefits the likes of Bush & Halliburton & British 'Defence' interests.
Ian cheese, London, UK
Lost the argument?
Here in America, it's difficult to believe they've lost the argument. Or lost anything, for that matter. The Iraq War - and our Mideast policy in general are yoked to our necks to boost the power of the unitary executive to that of a Mongol warlord, make money for the big deathware suppliers, and ensure the security and regional strategic hegemony of our brave little ally in the Levant. Much of these elephantine accomplishments is courtesy neocon schemes and efforts.
This crusade has thrown away the lives of some of our best citizens, depleted our treasury, shredded the Constitution, established an American Gulag of officially sanctioned torture centers and rendered us more isolated and less secure than we have ever been.
But unless the Bush Administration loses power, the war profiteers stop earning big bucks and Israel is attacked - the goals of the policy's designers have been met.
No... the neocons haven't lost. The rest of us have.
Curt Morgan, Los Angeles, California, USA
Parris is wrong: the intervention was a good idea but the execution was clumsy and flawed. The idea - to liberate an enslaved and brutalised people - might have been a success had the UN supported it and helped to carry it out with the necessary extra troups and perhaps wiser counsels. Remember that even Dr Kelly thought Saddam must go.
To demand "without qualification" agreement that an idea whose application is bungled was Bad is unreasonable. To insist on acknowledgement that "those who supported it erred" is rather mean and - forgive me - schoolboyish
Michael Scragg, Brasted, UK
Many of us who were aghast at our would-be Rambo's plan to invade Iraq, hoped that our older and wiser cousins would stay his hand. Instead you went along, perhaps out of guilt from having created Iraq in the first place. Perhaps you felt even more guilt from the early actions of BP's predecessor in Iran. We are both still paying for that. There is time to "separate Britain's reputation and good name from the Bush administration." Please have a go .
Rolf E. Westgard, St Paul, MN USA
The Iraq war was NOT "a very bad idea". It was regarded as the lesser of the evils at the time, The biggest mistake was underestimating the depravity of the other side. Yet despite all the atrocities committed by the so- called "resistance" (bombing mosques, pet markets, celebrating football supporters and strapping suicide belts to the mentally defective etc. etc.) millions risked their lives to vote in their government and polls still show that the majority believe that removing Saddam was worth the hardship.
Stan Rosenthal, Haywards Heath, West Sussex, England
This morning I heard the United States Ambassdor to United Nations explain in the clearest possible terms what the neocon agenda was in the the post Soviet era: brook no opposition from any quaters to the domination of the world by the United States. Everything else was bunkum. In this consequences did not matter. Either our government was taken for a ride or were complicit in the American endeavour. Liberal interventionism is clap trap.
sinna mani, London, uk