David Charter: Analysis
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The prospect of a “two-speed Europe” is being discussed in European capitals as an answer to the deep crisis that would face the EU if the Irish Government were to rule out a rerun of its referendum. Under the plan, a group of countries that ratified the Lisbon treaty would find a legal way of forging ahead in a “core EU”, while Ireland — and anyone else not willing to join the advance party — would be frozen out. Serious consideration to this idea is under way in Germany, France and Luxembourg, but Britain and others are firmly opposed.
In reality, the EU already moves at different speeds, a process set to become more common as the number of member states continues to grow. Britain has various opt-outs from EU decision-making, including those affecting justice and home affairs, while Poland was due to join the British opt-out from the Charter of Fundamental Rights under the Lisbon treaty.
Provision for “enhanced co-operation” was made in the Nice treaty of 2003 but is rarely used: even the most ardent federalists know how damaging it would be for the EU to splinter into different camps. Also, it cannot be used for the kind of institutional changes at the centre of the Lisbon treaty. A cadre of “true believers” cannot push on with a president of the European Council or extra powers for the European Parliament without a fresh treaty signed by all members. Ultimately, the only way a hard core could go it alone is by doing just that — by reforming as a “Lisbon treaty club” and leaving the EU behind.
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Dear peterfieldman, Am I to take it the French are NOT paying more for loans, food and absolutely everything else?
Jeremy Drake, Norwich, United Kingdom
Even as a Eurosceptic of long standing, I think it would be quite improper for the UK to oppose this idea. If the core wish to press ahead with integration, it's really none of our business. It fits our role as Atlantic bridge even better than membership of the EU does.
jon livesey, Sunnyvale, CA/USA
Where would the UK fit in with this two speed Europe since it is not a "core" member of the EU due to its refusal to switch to the Euro. Without the single currency there can be no meaningful United States of Europe and the British people will continue to pay more for loans, food and everything else
peterfieldman, paris, france
To Ramon in Rottedam.... lets not forget that your own people of the Netherlands rejected the same constitution/treaty as well as the French public ! do you not believe in Democracy ? ......... history teaches us well ..ignore the people at your peril !!
Peter Sloane, Dublin, Ireland
Quite amusing! Britain is against a two -tier EU....Hilarious. You are already in the outer circle. Are you afraid of words? There is no way hiding reality...If the Treaty fails, believe it or not, merkel, Sarkozy, juncker and many others will find a way to create that "inner Core" you abhor!
pascal-pierre, Brittany, Dinan, European Union ( F)
Now its time to ratify the un-audited Euro budget and the MEPs expenses
Charlie, lancaster, uk
To ignore the Irish vote is dictatorship. If France and Germany want to form some homogeneous political gloop then let them. Our democratic rights are more important than some self serving , non elected, supreme soviet.
Morse, Oxford,
The talk about freedom and democracy does not convince me as long as NATO can force nations and people into a war nobody wants.
Marcel Chase, Deggendorf, Germany
Why not have the good and the bad, or the bad and the good. We are trying to build the United states of Europe....It took centuries to work the other side of the pond! And even now laws etc differ from one state to another....oh I forgot we are more inteligent than the americans, specially the Irish
E. Bee, Toulouse, France
As they wrote the treaty, the bruxelliots also conspired against referenda: They want none of it and for a reason: This treaty, as it is, would be rejected in most member-states. This is not an Irish problem, it's an european problem.
I only didn't vote against because I wasn't asked.
Rui, Lisbon, Portugal
"it is clear that when so many want a union" - er, like who ?
Even the french rejected the constitution when given a vote.
Alan, bristol, uk
To: DJ and Ramon: If there are so many of you YESers, then why don't you let us all vote?
quote: «(...) so many want a union (...)» Who? The Irish? The French? The Dutch?
quote: «(...)leave us alone(...)» and let you run the joint, waving our democratic rights away?
Rui, Lisbon,
why is it so hard for nthe wasters in Brusells to write a simple and effective constitution that the majority of people could support; is it that the EU is to be a socialist superstate in which the opinion of the public does not count. Pro European but a democrate 1st.
Andrew Wakeling, London, uk
Clearly the EU is not a democracy and this Fascist project should never have got off the ground, no one asked for it.
our polititions have turned traitor to get their hands on our taxes and grant themselfs piles of cash.
It's time for the treason trials to begin.
Peter, Germany,
No doubt Brussels will find a way of getting the results they want, regardless of the peoples wishes the same way they have manage to fiddle the EU accounts, now unaudited for eleven years.
Chris, Camberley, UK
From the sideline it is clear that when so many want a union, an objection of one percent would not wreck the union. Therefore it seems the Union will survive the Irish no, with some small, or face saving compromise. However It is quite possible that the Irish and others will not join this time.
D.J., Israel,
Thats great if they don't wanna join let them leave us alone.
ramon, rotterdam, netherlands
If Europe is a 'democracy' then everyone in Europe should have a vote. What are the elected politicians and unelected commissioners frightened of?
Paul, Coventry,
What began a a "Free Trade Club" has been turned into a monstrous waste of its citizens money & worse. The legislation enacted is counter-productive to competitive edge. Worst of all the European politicians seem to think that they have a inalienable right to exist.
Richard, Bucharest,