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Hopes rose yesterday for a revival of the Middle East peace process with symbolic overtures from both sides.
An Arab League delegation made an historic first visit to Israel, while Ehud Olmert, the Israeli Prime Minister, spoke to the Palestinian President about establishing a Palestinian state.
Mr Olmert has also drawn up a plan of what final-status talks could look like, adding to the apparent momentum. It is understood that under the proposals, Israel would hand over 90 per cent of occupied territory and parts of Jerusalem to a future Palestinian state.
The foreign ministers of Jordan and Egypt arrived in Israel bearing an Arab League proposal for a land-for-peace deal. “We have heard a lot of positive commentary, from which we discern an intention on behalf of Israel to work seriously on giving the Palestinians an opportunity to achieve their state,” Ahmed Abul Gheit, the Egyptian envoy, said. His comments followed talks with Shimon Peres, the Israeli President, and Tzipi Livni, the Foreign Minister.
The plan, which was rejected by Israel when the 22-nation Arab League unveiled it five years ago, offers Israel normalised ties with the Arab world if it pulls back to the boundaries in place before the 1967 Six Day War, when it occupied the West Bank and Gaza.
After the withdrawal, a Palestinian state would be created and millions of refugees would be allowed to return, something that has been a sticking point for Israel in the past.
Israel has now sensed an opportunity in the split between the two main Palestinian factions, the secular Fatah with which it is negotiating in the West Bank, and the Islamist movement Hamas, which drove Fatah from Gaza last month. Israel hopes that it can bolster the Fatah-led Government while isolating Hamas in the tiny Gaza Strip.
Mr Olmert said for the first time yesterday that he had discussed measures to establish an eventual Palestinian state with Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian President and Fatah leader. “We have started very seriously to talk with Mr Abbas on a peace process and questions that can allow a Palestinian state to be established,” he said after talks with Mr Peres, a Nobel Peace prizewinner for his role in the 1990s Oslo accords.
“These discussions will continue at the pace we have agreed upon, and we are in agreement for them to continue until they bear concrete results.”
According to the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, Mr Olmert has offered the Palestinians talks to agree on the principles on which a Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital could be built. The Palestinians have been arguing that the small, trust-building measures offered so far by Israel — releasing prisoners and frozen funds and amnesty for wanted Fatah militants — were welcome but held no hope of a political settlement to work towards.
An Israeli official said that the new proposals aimed to rectify that obstacle, “so everyone understands where the process is going”. He emphasised, however, that it was still too early to begin final-status talks. The issue could bog down negotiations before they even got off the ground. “It’s talking about the principles of final status, making it clear what it looks like,” he said.Nabil Amr, an aide to Mr Abbas, said that no concrete initiative had so far been put on the table, but emphasised that the Palestinians’ “readiness for negotiations is high”.
Mr Olmert’s vision includes a Palestinian state in Gaza, and about 90 per cent of the occupied West Bank, Haaretz said. The two territories could be connected by a tunnel, with most of east Jerusalem as the capital of the new Palestinian state. While Israel might pull out of occupied parts of the city, it would not relinquish the Old City and the Mount of Olives.
While offering fresh hope for the moribund peace process, the plan is still less than was rejected by Yassir Arafat at talks in 2000 with Ehud Barak, then the Israeli Prime Minister. It was not clear whether the Israeli proposal — effectively talks about future talks — would overlap or collide with the Arab League plan. But the Egyptian and Jordanian foreign ministers, who have both visited Israel before, representing their countries, urged Israel not to dither.
“We need a precise timetable, a quick timetable, and we urge Israel not to waste this historic opportunity,” said Abdel-Ilah al-Khatib, the Jordanian Foreign Minister. “Time is not on our side.”
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Abbas and Olmert will agree on peace and it will lead to more than anyone has ever imagined. Forget about who is trustworthy, neither side is. But that is not what matters. Remember your prophet, Israel. Daniel declared that this peace will happen. "He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.'"
David, Monticello,
I agree with Newman from Hadera. Olmert is the head of a "C Team" government representing not even his own family. He speaks well but has failed to actually win prizes for incompetency, as he's failed in everything else. This is a very dangerous time for Jews; in the same way as Sharon resuscitated DisEngagement to head off his own personal indictment, so Olmert (& Peres) would willingly sacrifice the people and Land for their own personal advancement.
Israel badly needs a competent, representative government which keeps its head well out of the sand; for too long has wishful thinking been given the initiative.
M Lester, London & RBS, UK & Israel
Is it for real, or just a " bleuff " as it was always the case.
Soufiene, Sheffield, UK
Promising 90% of the West Bank and a return to the pre-1967 borders is a disaster of gargantuan proportions. I can only hope that the Olmert/Livni duo is ousted before it can do any more harm than its already done, which is considerable. The majority of Israelis want peace, yes, but they are not willing to sign a suicide pact, which will become very obvious when Netanyahu is elected in 2008. Hopefully, Olmert will be powerless far before then.
This is a calamity in the making. All know that the Palestinians cannot be trusted under any circumstances. How many of the scores of agreements made to date with them have been upheld? NOT A SINGLE ONE. One should learn from experience and history...something that Olmert has never been able to do. A complete incompetent.
Newman, Hadera,
Who is in his right mind would ever think that Israel will one day withdraw from the occupied territories?! I think the Arab League has committed another big mistake by showing Israeli leaders that the Arabs are weak and desperate for a peace agreement. When the Quartet appointed Tony Blair as their Envoy, the message was to the Arab League:"Guys, you will have to wait possibly another 60 years for a peace plan to be drawn up".
If the Arabs want really to get back their lands, they have one choice and that is the invasion of Israel rom all sides. They should ironically learn from President Bush how to do that... after all he is an expert.
Everybody remembers: everytime the peace process becomes so close, the Israeli Government initiates thousand of reasons to topple it down: calling for an election, arresting palestinians to infuriate the Arabs, killing their own soldiers and blaming the arab militants, thus giving them the reason to stop further negotiations.
Bernie Haddad, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Mr Waters:
You clearly do not understand the meaning of "coup d'etat". Hamas was and is the democratically elected government of the Occpied Territories. It would only have been a coup d'etat if Fatah had taken over from Hamas.
Davd, Cambridge, Canada
"There will be peace when the Arabs love their children more than they hate the Jews"
Golda Meir
Howard Weiss MD, Baltimore, MD
I bless the meetings which could advance dialogue toward peace , although I think that Mr Olmert has no mandate to speak in the name of our country especially after the conclusions of the Winograd Report .
To discuss about vital questions any democratic regime needs a based majority in the population .
The second Lebanon War proved that the present prime minister is not strong enough to discuss about the future of our marvelous country and have no right to discuss on vital questions which could endanger lives .
MARMOR Alain, JERUSALEM, ISRAEL
I hope and I pray that something concrete will come out of this effort by the leaders of the Arab world. It cannot go on forever.
Noor Allam, Alor Setar, Malaysia
I hope the Arabs are finally ready to accept Israel and make peace. The truth is - it will then be up to the Palestinians to decide what kind of state they want to have before true peace will ensue.
Mo Habibi, Dallas, USA
Having just returned from three weeks in Israel - my fifth visit there over a span of 37 years - I was pleased to see a vibrant nation with a thriving economy and a future for its young citizens. Should a Palestinian state emerge from the current effort, it will be important for its young citizens to also live in a state that offers them a future. Given the choice of a good job and peaceful life, who would be eager to strap on a suicide bomb?
RB, Santa Cruz, USA/CA
The treaty will spark the seven year tribulation in Daniel 9:27. The treaty will be brokered by the one called the Antichrist. Will it be Blair or Javier Soana. Who knows, but remain vigilant and rember these are the last days. The Lord Jesus is returning soon with great power and glory
Beechnut, Jasper, United States
The irony being of course, it appears that Hamas' coup d'etat in Gaza may lead to a comprehensive moderate settlement of the Palestinian issue.
N. Waters, Mississauga, Canada
They would rather do all this than talk to our Tone?
Wow
Bill Bird, Wallasey, Wirral