For all of you who are Pro-American, and are from India. Open your eyes and witness what Americans are doing to your brothers in the Middle East.

End of discussion.

jeff, Toronto, Canada

The main thing is that, India will not join the axis immediately because of her bitter relation with china. It is certain that China is joining Russia. NATO may be able to prevent India from joining the axis.

kaushik, Kolkata, India

China and Russia as allies against the USA? No thanks. It is in India's interests not to read too much into this "multipolar" jingoism -I don't think India can never trust China. At least the USA is a democracy and Americans speak English -there's lot of synergy between Indian-US academics, research specialists and US culture/events have a daily impact on our lives; also so many Indian industries depend on American cooperation. By throwing in our lot with China (which invaded India in 1962), we risk being isolated in this world. While I'm all in favour of good people-to-people ties with China and Russia or any other country, India still needs the West much more than they need us. Look at Singapore, Japan, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand -all these countries are strategic allies of the United States and have been rewarded immensely to become first-rate developed countries. And what happens to "non-aligned India" we're still a third-world country behind all this superpowerdom baloney

Sahil, Ahmedabad, India

US is a nice country (except the damn gun laws). Even if russia and china go against america, india will never ever go against a country which has helped its citizens (NRIs) to live a comfortable life. NRIs (Non resident indians) send almost 50 billion dollars every year to india. India is the largest democracy and just one person cannot make a decision like in china and russia. India would like to have good relations with all the countries of the world. India is a spirutual country.

Bharat, Pune, India

Well it seems a great step towards the begining of new era.I wonder why some people are so much worried about india's,china's or russians poverty when there is talk about the rising superpowers.I think they are feared of their fate and end of lavish era.i believe poverty could only be eliminated by technological leads, and india is doing great in this respect.only its a matter of time when india can overcome poverty with its huge resources.there will be no surprise if these three great nations might shake hands for a new power polarisation eleminating US superimacy.

B Kumar, london,

Hmmmm!!!That's interesting,because the way i see it is there are rich people and poor people( either you have it or you dont)china,russia,india,and africa are no differn't.YOU will find poverty where ever you go(paris,london,new york.etc.)I belive that if you really want to make a difference then you have to sacrifice and stand up to the oppression that your country has bestowed on to you, and stop comparing yourself to others. by the way the way some of those countries i just spoke of do not have an execellent record for being humain.sincerily in response to my freind over there in india..

michael, san mateo, USA/ ca

The trouble with the world is that humanity's beliefs and systems of government still come from ancient views of understanding. At that time, religions and cruel centered anarchies were necessary to control a world which humans have no understanding. Now that we have a better understanding of who and what we really are from technological advances, we should face and accept the truth, be who we are - humans, do away with religions and few powerful rule to one of world wide cooperation. However, realistically this is an impossible task, unless a common threat finally forces us to do so.

Jessie Pinon, Spartanburg, SC, USA

the great problem with the world is it is broken up in nations. even though people are essentially the same, nationality provides a clan structure to organize people against each other. one that is perfectly acceptable.

it forces 35% of world population into a small corner of the earth giving 2% of the population control of most of its resources.

in my country it was a caste system. brahmins, kshatriyas, vaishyas, shudras. the least favoured shudras were not to drink water from village wells, not enter temples, not even to let their shadow fall on a brahmin. in other countries, it was racism. blacks not allowed to vote, to live free, to own land, be forced to carry passes.

in todays world these passes are green and red books called passports. the harbingers of exploitation.

get 100,000(there are millions) of the poorest of poor indian, african, chinese, russian people out on the streets of new york, paris or london and let the cruel world stare itself in its face.

hrh, mumbai, india

In response to 'avatar singh of India' ...with people like you and your beliefs - I ask myself, can mankind ever achieve a mutual understanding and peace. I find a lot of young people, like myself wanting to learn and improve on the problems existing in the world at present. We want to communicate with others less fortunate and many find empathy among each other when the prejudice created by the evils of the world are broken down. When will people stop judging others for what they are or where they were born start perceiving people to be who they are and what they believe in.

Jim, Montreal, Canada

On reading all these comments I must say, it's a feast for an Indian to be on this forum!
American friends here are feeling so "insecured". Even people from a Super power nation can also feel insecured? Some invoke greatness of USA, some its military prowess, some its supposed humanity as an international policeman etc etc etc.
It's a law of nature that the one who goes up, has to come down one day.
I wish best of luck to America and its people.

Vikram, New-Delhi, Delhi

I think Johannes O'Dei is over reacting. The people of US are of course peace lovers but its the government that has an itch to poke into others matter. If US wants to be the supreme power then maintain your steadiness and patience in relation with other countries. Disgusting is the word that I can use for American Policies. You guys call India and China the place for diseases, but let me remind you that America is a place where sufferings are created for generations. Complex but fragile freaks is the best term I can use for the American Policies and the Government of America.

Royce George, Mumbai, 400001

I personally feel the future is India and china. America can never be the peace keeper. USA failed in Iraq , but succeeded in getting control over oil. USA always play dual role, they mean some thing and do some thing. As a human one must strive for the benefit of mankind. We cant escape a day without hearing bomb news related to Iraq. So many innocent people lives are mixed in air. Australia will know the true side of America soon.

srikanth, dc, usa

avatar singh of India, your abhorrent anglophobic remarks are some of the most racist i've heard in all my life. How dare you dictate how anglo majority countries should behave. How dare you say that America must rid itself of Anglo influence, when the countries forefathers and ideals were Anglo to the core. Your resentment must consume you.

Johannes O'Dei, Sydney,

I will add to my last comment, that a world under the strong influence of China will be hell. As an animal rights activist, there is no country more obscene and heartless. The day will come when the world will look back on American dominance as the most peaceful in history. Already in my country(Australia) we are seeing Chinese influence(mining etc) and it is not good. There may be a world war coming up that makes the last 2 seem petty by comparison.

Johannes O'Dei, Sydney,

This article is nonsensical! Countries are not what are the problems with world power. It is the very wealthy families hiding behind the legally defined borders that work with each other behind the scenes in profiting off of the world's resources. My advice to you is get a history book on monarchism and arab-world dynasties and see how they have influenced the masses throughout history. They are friends to each other and go to the same cocktail parties.

Canada is still under the Queen's influence in more ways than we are brainwashed to know.

Karl Victoria BC Canada.

karl, Victoria, Canada

Well I see Ocienna and Eurasia are forming, wonder how long until East asia comes up. Its kind of uncanny how Orwell could have seen the world splitting up like this back then. Its even more scary when looking at the direction American society is turning at home with big brother like surveilance and gradual decrease of freedoms.

Ron, Richmond, US Va

An Anglophile to the core, Wilson didn't care about the fate of the Russians. His concern was in keeping German forces split along two fronts. The payoff worked: Russia's provisional prime minister Aleksandr Kerensky kept the Russians involved in the war.


In 1916, Woodrow Wilson was re-elected to the presidency chiefly on the strength of a slogan: "He kept us out of war." By 1917, the peacenik prez was leading the charge against Germany, jailing antiwar activists, and exhorting Americans to fight a "war to end all wars." In 1940, Franklin Delano Roosevelt told the voters: "I have said this before, but I shall say it again and again and again: your boys are not going to be sent into any foreign wars." Behind the scenes, however, he was maneuvering to do just that – and by the end of 1941, we were fighting a two-front war, embracing "Uncle" Joe Stalin as a fellow "anti-fascist," and planning the internment of the Japanese-American population.





November 1997.




Exploitation of U.S.A. by England and her Agents.

The recent case of an English servant( au pair) by name of miss Woodward being convicted of man-slaughter of an American baby of American parents and yet allowed to walk away Scot free highlights those who did not realize earlier) the complete hold of England and her agents on the affairs of U.S.A. The same english media and her agents in America were doing free propaganda for the girl and even before and after the trial were declaring the convicted girl innocent. It is the same media (B.B.C. And others of same punk types) who have all through last 15 years been doing propaganda against Blacks, Hispanic and what not, and have fully pushed for tough measures against drug takings on the basis that with drug scare a lot of Blacks would be (and have been) put behind bar for more than 15 to 20 years on trumped up charge of possessing !5 dollars worth of Hassis. It is the same British (more specifically english) media and peoples who are pro-capital punishment (as long as victims are non-english) , pro hard line policing( only against non-english peoples), more pro tobacc0,more pro rotten british beef, more pro big british business( but anti-foreigners` business-whiplash against Japanese ownership of a few American concerns but complete silence of American firm being hostile way being taken by british and Canadian firms is one example), more pro pollution, more anti-environment, very pro-english financial institutions` hold on world economy (but against European finance getting strong--anti-European Single currency is for that reason), very anti-cultured( they call it pragmatism) and very anti-foreign countries (Usa, Canada, and Australia excepted as these are regarded by English press as their colony( they call it across the pond, or english backwater))), very anti-blacks, anti-whites of Europe, anti non anglo saxon whites of America and even anti-Scottish
British media--racist-- (BBC was giving vehement
propaganda against Scottish devolution). BBC even suggested that Wales referendum peoples who lost referendum (i.e. english sympathisers in Wales) should revolt against Wales referendum result). These all characteristics you find daily in and out in programmes of BBC, independent channels, satellite english channel, all enlish papers. there is no difference between tabloids and broadsheets in England ,they all are owned, produced, edited, written and read and edited by low life forms). In fact what they try to project to others especially Americans is exactly opposite of what they actually. They deride other cultural things (like French) but would try to impress Americans as torch bearer of culture. In fact in name of pragmatism ( really meaning slimy, low life) they deride all cultural things. They are hardly musical but would make the most of commercial success out of music. In fact when German style techno music started getting popular, because it would eat away british music industry’s carefully orchestrated profit and also because money would probably go to foreign bands, the BBC and all english media started orchestrated propaganda against that music scene falsely claiming that it was full of antisocial elements consuming drugs and doing crimes. That is how the techno music scene was killed in Britain. That propaganda was worse than Soviet propaganda against pop music. That is how one never hears of excellent pop girl group Tic-Tac while
British media-propaganda machine of english race-- BBC and all british media have done full steam propaganda to popularise the names of rubbish pop group like Oasis and spice girls. In fact the English race is only good in propaganda and the sale which results from it. But they would like Americans to believe that they are original thinkers and others steal their ideas to sell¬ The english are sellers, and commercial but because they know it is not a classy qualification, they started talking of class when in reality there has never been true aristocracy in England. they all are pirate cum shopkeepers. Make no mistake about it. It is the british agents in U.S.A. who (through complete hold of media, Hollywood and money) who have been active in spreading racial hatred against blacks, Hispanic, Irish, Italians, Germans, Greeks Russian, Polish Jews -in other words against all those Americans who are labelled ethnic Americans and who constitute more than 70 % of Americans outside anglo-saxon race. The same english which said on one voice to free the murderer girl is the same who goes which daily talks of desirability of tough law and order measures in U.S.A. It the same english media which does propaganda on behalf of biggest drug dealer in the world-B.A.T. And it is the same English sympathisers in States and English Govt. which brought about civil war in America to protect drug (tobacco) interests in U.S. It is the same B.B.C. which opposed in 1988 the sanctions against apartheid South Africa saying it will hurt British jobs. IT openly violated U.N.O. resolutions against South Africa for british interests. Such british interests must be destroyed as it is based on inhuman practices. In fact in the 1988 American election B.B.C. had invited the chief drug dealer of bat (who of course is an englishman) and there was another American there. During discussion of Ducassis' candidature the B.B.C. anchor man suggested to the American that the opponent of bush was hardly an American as he looked to dark and was Greek, the country of geek being too much near Africa. It really happened. This shows a few things. According to B.B.C. not only Blacks were not American but also all those who the english agents have labelled ethnic Americans. In fact B.B.C. openly said (in that program-usually B.B.C. does not reveal its evil intention so easily) that the American means actually anglo-saxons. Don't confuse that it includes Germans either. The same English agents (in America) who created a monstrous film like ``birth of nation`` are the same people who crated prohibition only because many German immigrants were drinking bear and they did not like it. It is the same england sympathiser crowd who went on killing blacks, Irish,
etc -
British propaganda against Europeans races-- The same crowd who pushed U.S.A. Into both World Wars because otherwise England would have lost. It is the same crowd who asked for tough immigration measures against foreigners but have given free reign to English people to come to u.s.a. and work theatre without visa requirement. Those restricted against (from other foreign countries) are not only much more highly qualified specialists in their field but also they have much better standard of living than the English people who come to States. Those foreigners are mostly from elite school and are educated up to Ph.D. level while these english people are all non- PhDs. and almost all school failed. Very few of these english people are university educated. In fact England is a nation of plumbers and fitters. It is a progression from piracy and shop keeping. It shows in their accent that almost all of english immigrants to states are from plumber and fitter class. But they pose otherwise. they have created an accent only to show to Americans that they can sometimes Talk posh but it is a put on. actually they become posh only after they have milked America and taken jobs which would otherwise have gone to Americans. Besides their so called posh themselves have graduated from Pirates-turned _so called gentleman class. The upper class of England always have been pirate cum shopkeeper class. England never had aristocracy in the same the word aristocrat means. Aristocracy is in Italy, in Spain, In Germany, in France and other European nations. But the one country -england which never had true aristocracy talks a lot about that to impress Americans. Example-in all European countries There is a word to describe a lower member( let us say a starting point) of aristocracy-A Man who is mounted on a horse. Chevalier in French and Caballero in Spanish means exactly that. A man on horse. So is it in all European languages. but not in english. The equivalent word knight is not derived from horse
.It has been artificially given the same meaning. The reason is simple. In England there has never been a class of blood’s (though they talk most of all people about it). Anybody could be and can be given entrance to their so called aristocracy. Mostly Pirates turned shopkeepers have been favourites to receive knighthood. It is not true of only pirate queen Elizabeth1 but is has been much before that bandit queen and it is true even today. The point is important. Because by giving false propaganda that they somehow have class they have gained entrance into Hollywood and shaped much of today’s American thinking. In fact enlish people declare themselves classy in england usually they have earned a lot a money in Hollywood. It is america which improves their class and not vice-versa as they would like Americans to believe. There is another word (or lack of it)
which shoes that English race never had class. In all European languages there is an equivalent word for` `Bonn Appetite``. Not in english. Because even after last 200 hundred years of ill-gotten money the English race never developed class to appreciate good food. In the same way english language( u.k.) has a lot of word for sensational and secretive kind but very few words to describe finer things in Life like Philosophy, arts, etc. The point being made is that English people must be prohibited from coming to States to get employment in lucrative jobs when their are more better qualified people in States and elsewhere. Because England is not only controlling American foreign policy but also it’s domestic and economic policy.
british infiltration into American Film industry-- How this state of affairs have come about? Why is a Hollywood film industry become an employment avenue for English parasites? Why for example even in a sci-fiction film is it necessary to employ 3 to 4 Enlish voice over? The provisos point about english race being one and only one in Europe without real blooded aristocracy was given for this very reason. Even TONY Curtis once said as to why is a high Roman supposed to speak in enlish accent and can not in american accent. These english parasites insinuated themselves in Hollywood and started this propaganda( first in background and later openly) that Romans, old Christians etc all need english accent. They did to evict the american from important positions and secondly to get the job themselves. Ho w this came about ? Because it has been so entrenched (thanks to english propaganda) that to unravel it we can see a few recent examples and than we will go to Past.
other industry---- The same thing that the english race did in Hollywood ,it did recently in computer industry 2 years ago. When Cd-rom age came about 2 years ,there came about reasonably priced Encyclopaedias, lessons in Sciences like Physics, chemistry, geography and mathematics. Of course most of them were american. Initially the british did bring out high priced low quality( like most of british products) computer educational programmes. And the british media in unison urged the public to buy british products. First they said that british product though costly was better product. When that did not hold then the british media were saying that though american product was as good or even better ,who would buy american product because it did not give british bias rather american bias to things. They were saying that even about Physics and geography programmes. Later on they based that it had cute american accent and not stern british accents. they openly said that real english even in america should be what is spoken by anglo-saxon race in their homeland-that is england. In fact the british media were insistent that in britain one should buy american programmes only because it had american accent (irritating was the word used) and not till it was localized. Suddenly in a computer ,a global market where a particular accent in science matters nothing a new buzz word came into being-localization. The english media and their agents in america were active and pressurised the american company like Microsoft and etc to not only produce for u.k. market in england auto also for whole of non-U.S. market also to be produced in u.k. And they called ed u.k. edition world edition. Considering that in world only in last 50 years have people mostly learned english because of u.s.a. influence and they imitate u.s.a. accent ; it was a misnomer. But the real intention was to take job away from Americans and give the translation, and low tech but highly paid job to English race. In other words they grabbed american jobs. By the way if it was irritating and objectionable for an englishman to read and listen in american accent and bias then why is it o.k. for the rest of world to read and listen in shopkeeper’s accent? This thing happened in last 2 years so you can understand the process how the english shopkeepers and plumbers have taken away american` job in Hollywood and many others jobs. Many go there to be servants and pose as butler and au pair. Can’t Americans not do it? In fact of all the different groups that has made america the immigrants from England have been not only the least educated and least cultured but also the most poor. In fact even Russian Jews who came to america in beginning of this century came with more money than the immigrants from england. It is only by such propaganda that they insinuated themselves in high position and got rich. anglo-saxon race is the Lumpen proletariat of america. Only by default of others has it become rich but could never got class. Let us see how the english race managed to exploit and are exploiting u.s.a.
Total lack of class and culture amongst the english race Let us be frank. though in some places england would like to compare her selves descendent of Romans and Greeks it is more a descendent of Phoenicians. The latter were also pirates cum traders and had equally low culture, trade and money with exploitation being their only passion. Till end of Napoleonic war England has been pariah of Europe. It was always a nation of ugly looking people looking for and trouble among the great powers of( england was never that ) Europe and pirating and doing all criminal activities . In fact Richard ,before going for crusade, killed all the Jews in York and elsewhere so that he and his inklings would not have to pay to those bankers which was owed. This despicable creature has a monument in front of british parliament. He was a coward plunderer who spread the seed of anti Semitism in europe when he passed though Europe. Before that there was never a racism in Europe. But racism was a ploy to not to pay debts. Probably the Third world should learn from that and do to these despicable creatures wat tehy they showed the way. In During Turkish expansion ,while Christians of Europe especially as
Spanish and Austrian were trying to protect Europe, this Pariah of Europe, Elizabethen England were trying to encourage the Turkish empire. Of course it did have no effect because english were not important. Even fact England was one of the most poor country in Europe till very late time. It is only because the prime minister of Louis 15 said that France was not interested in expansion than what is her today’s` boundary, that England could get opportunity But even then it was not in guts nor power of england to expand. Only when the great powers were to fight then england have a chance just like when 2 lions fight it out and get injured then comes a hyena and takes the kill what was lions` originally. England is the Hyena of Europe. Her policy has been through spy network to let real powers fight it out so that it can enjoy the kill. Therefore first it pirated against Spain ,and 50 years later against Holland (who it had tried to help against Spain). Many of Dutch east India company ships were looted in English channel. At the same time it incited France against Spain and after Spain had been neutralized It incited Spain against France. The similar pattern would be repeated it it got empire by default and it would continue even after empire was practically gone after 1st world war and certainly after w.w.2. So we find england a pariah dog at the time of Napoleonic War .IT tried six times to assassinate Napoleon. Such a great man likes of who gets born once or twice in a thousand years. England’s propaganda against Napoleon was the same as it would be against Germany in 1st World war, against Hitler against Gandhi against Lenin and Stalin. Napoleon freed the Jews from ghetto which they got through racism introduced by the English by pirate Richard. Institutionalised racism is very english thing which basically means hatred for all things not belonging to english. Here also comes the role of Jews. Though Napoleon had freed the Jews, for some inexplicable reasons since then Jews put their fate in the hands of English and (suffered from it) What Hitler described as the characteristics of Jew is really very English attributes. In other word , being cheat and doing spying is the very english quality and nothing to do with Jews. It so happens that Jews started working for english cause and used those inhuman qualities characteristic of english race. Anyway after several attempts on Napoleons` life (they were fist terrorists) ,napoleon had to declare him selves Emperor to protect continuity of Republic and revolution. (sounds odd but this exactly how it happened). England had to concede 91801) to give up all ill gotten territories . So after napoleon becoming emperor, england got a chance for propaganda. While Napoleon was meeting the Russian Czar on a Royal barge, hidden underneath the barge was an Enlish spy who overheard everything. Rest is history. Through enlish lies and propaganda and spy work confusion was created which created mistrust between Russia and France and Napoleon attacked Russia and lost 80 % of Grand Armee. Then of course the Prussians and Austrians would attack and Napoleon would lose. The credit of military victory the english take-hyenas taking over from Lion. The similar pattern would be repeated 100 years in 1st world war and also in W.W. 2.. and beyond continuing now. In fact england hardly got anything by military fighting. England has not won a single war own her own. Even Boer war at a time of empire resource. IT is always by cowardly act of crating trouble between two strongest powers and making them fight till bloodied.40 years after Napoleonic war, when in France was installed highly unpopular monarch- a stooge of England- the same erstwhile enemies became friend to attack previous friend Russia in Crimea war. Whosoever is England’s friend is called ally and every generation it changes. After Napoleonic war, in order to make a comrade in loot, England would persuade stooge king of France that it was not bad after all to exploit other countries and ask France to take desert lands of north Africa. One needs accomplices in crime for safety. This pattern of involving a strong country in war till destruction would be followed in W.W.1. against. Basically Germany had grown too strong for England’s liking so it had to be involved in war with some other power. (never england -it will come later when going gets easy). So English spies started giving hint to Germans that if Germany attacked Czar’s Russia , it would be o.k. with England. Remember by 1885, Germany had industrial output higher than england` in spite of all captive market of England where it could sell high priced low quality rubbish goods (it still does the same today with stooge govts. of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait).So Germany was given wrong signal and encouraged to attack Russia while england stated to make pact with Russia as well- That very Russia against it was inducing Germany to attack. To justify back stabbing england had this small clause of sovereignty of Belgium .Of course if it was simply a matter of sovereignty only , Belgium could simply give transit passage to German army and matter ends there. But that was an excuse to declare war against Germany who had been induced to attack Russia by england anyway. IT tells a lot about German army that inspire of 80 % army being at Russian front, The Enlish were loosing by 1917 and that inspire of all empire soldiers (million) , all the help of Americans and all spying work. Of course as was said earlier these cowards have won a single battle, let alone a war in last 100 year on their own strength. And they have won not a single war rr battle by fighting ever, only through cowardly cheating and double crossing. It is interesting that The same racists who were just like Hitler were in America and they were most vociferous in fighting racist Germany of Hitler. Of course they were not fighting for an ideal, they were fighting for England. In America 150 year after independence!

Democracy-a propaganda word-How world wars was started by England----
In fact this talk of democracy and freedom and secularism started soon after start of ww1 when England started losing the war. It begged other nations to help her in name of democracy and freedom. Think of it_ England which had enslaved so much of world population and killed and exploited them( they are still proud of it) asking in name of freedom! In fact what england means by secularism is worship of her kings and kings, by democracy is meant dictatorship of English shopkeepers and by freedom is meant freedom to exploit other nations and people. The same freedom for other nations is not to be granted. the same worship of other Royal peoples is not to be encouraged. Only for English royals or those who have been made stooge royals like those of Saudi-Arabia or Kuwait. Kaiser is to be a villain because He wanted exactly the same things for German peoples as the English wanted for themselves. After all Hitler was evil but what crime did Kaiser did? Soon before w.w.1 the Japanese had attacked and defeated Russia in naval battle. That was arranged and financed in London with help of German Jews who had settled in America. But after ww1,in the league of nations and in american immigration policies, the erstwhile friend-Japanese were not given respectable position on the prompting of Britain . That was the start of anti-Japanese propaganda by the british who in ww2 asked american to block all raw material supply for Japan. In other words ,much before American entry into ww2, U.S. had already done an act of war against Japan in order to help England maintain her ill-gotten colony. In between wars, the english sympathisers had already been doing what Hitler was to do in Germany against Jews. But those very american racist very the first to jump for action against Germany at outbreak of war. Of course from the first days of ww2,America had been giving all arms and help to britain .It was fighting war without declaration. There are unexplained phenomenon of W.W. “ .-of which no satisfactory explanation has yet been given because all explanations and propaganda has been by british-directed and of course british have to be given all possible benefit of doubt. These phenomenon are (a) Why Was Hitler surprised at british declaration of WW2?
(b) Why did Hitler not attack England (if he was supposed to do) and let england have more preparation for more than 1 years?
c) Even later when Hitler acted on western front, why did he allow Dunkirk? Why did he not finish the English army as he could have done? Why did he halt attack for 3 days to let the English cowards flee through Dunkirk?
d) Why was there such a little attack in western front? Why was there virtually no war in Europe or against England? For almost 3 years there was hardly any war in so called western Europe. Why did the war started only when England had enough time to muster resources and when 80 % of German army was on Eastern front?
e) Why did the second in command of Hitler-Hess landed in Scotland and immediately arrested? That was nearly the same time that America openly entered the war. Such a high position man like Hess do not fly to enemy country in time of war as a Spy. Germany could muster many other spy than sending the second in command of Fuhrer. What Hess had to say in prison was never allowed outside but after his death his son revealed British involvement in pact with Hitler was hushed up by british and american media. In fact there are many other incidents which directly point to England masterminding the 2WW. It does not mean that england was to fight. It is too coward for that. Just like before in W.W.1 , It orchestrated the war to let Germany and Russia destroy each other. Stalin recognized this immediately and made a pact with Germany to buy time.

How did England started the w.w.2. It happened like this. Though admirer of Hitler and his despicable views, England got worried of German might. (England always has inferiority complex versus Germans).England made a secret pact with Germany that it was all right for Germany to attack East And later Russia. England will in public make a few sound-bites but inside it will fully support Hitler and his nasty aims. England may offer token resistance for public consumption. Hitler believed it. He should have known better. In fact what Hitler described in ¬¬Mein Kampf¬ about Jews is not Jewish characters tics ,it is rather typical English characteristics_--I.e.- sly, Manipulative, selfish parasite on world, spy and ugly. (most of english and enlish race derived people look like misshapen potatoes (Churchill) or toad or dog( Which is also their national symbol.).
Anyway, Hitler was duped and when he went to Czechoslovakia, England had an excuse (as if it cared) to declare War. The w.w.2 is traditionally supposed to start from that date though war had already started in `38. Hitler was very surprised (as vouched for by his aids).Normally he should not have been surprised if his intention was to destroy england as was alleged. He was surprised because contrary to british secret assurance, England declared and went to war4 against Germany. But England ,though preparing for war, sent a message to Hitler that it was all for public consumption and Hitler can go ahead against Russia. That is why England was celebrating picnic in the summer of 40. Later when Hitler realized that some stern action was necessary against traitor (England-who had done secret pact) ,Hitler ordered His army to throw out from Europe the English army (supposedly the elite among the english army) But then even supposedly elite among the English army turned out to be coward. When The English army was at the point of annihilation, England sent urgent messages to Hitler, pleading for reprieve. Of course Hitler needed ally and his intention was simply to show to the English not to mess with German army and with secret pact. That is how these cowards flew through Dunkirk and later on made it as if were an heroic act. Later on when Hitler had success against Russia (he had no need to-If Germany wanted she could have destroyed England and occupied it without English being able to do anything about it except plotting). But as Russia was the main target and as England entering war was (to Hitler’s eyes simply for public consumption) immaterial (though England had it all pre-planned and is a classical case of back stabbing and double dealing characteristic of English race).

How world war 2 was started by britain-- If Hitler had wanted to act against England he would have attacked England instead of Russia at a time when the Japanese were defeating the English and giving the dose of same medicine to English race which it so much wants for others. Well, when England saw that Hitler and Germany are too much than it could chew, England offered to Germany another pact just before americans were induced to come to war openly. When americans, who had been in the war form day one (IF americans did not fight from start of 2ww. then neither did the cowards English) openly came to war, England again changed her mind and arrested Hess who had come to Britain at british govt request to finalize German-enlish pact in which Hitler was to take over Russia and leave britain have her empire. Hitler was again duped. So, as you see ,forget about Hitler being duped evil man (which he was), the England was very much of same view and actively collaborated with Germany in order to destroy Germany. In fact, when Jews in america were canvassing about start of concentration camps and danger to Jewish life in Europe, It was England and her govt, and media who pooh -poohed the whole thing and actively advised america not to do anything about it-even in public forum. America was( and still is) to fight for no group except the English and english-derived race.
Aryan and racist myth- an english invention-- In fact this mad thinking that Germans are Aryans and so superior is not even German thinking. Remember even today the most hate publications in the world are produced by those so called middle america( so beloved of BBC) who wrongly called themselves Aryans and hate ,besides others, the real Aryans in america who are Immigrants from Indian subcontinent. (And these real Aryans from India are much highly educated and cultured than these plumber cum shopkeepers lot of ugly looking baptist america going by the name (euphemecally) middle america (who usually get visitations from u.f.o.). When the German scientists (and some French) in employment of The Czarina Catherine the great were collecting (for St.Petersburg library) language (among other things) information in far-flung Russian empire, they stumbled across some Tchokhari language near . They found that some of the language resembled German. Later on they were told by French that similar language was the main language spoken in India-Sanskrit and all Sanskrit derived languages of whole India except in South India. Even in South India, the Brahmans spoke Sanskrit. That is how Germans came to know about Aryan language. In fact the shopkeeper’s race -english who already had been trader in India for 125 years, had no inkling about this similarity. Germans studied the Veda, Upanishads and what not and were very impressed by Indians achievement. The English said that Sanskrit was a new artificial invention created by Indians after Europeans came to India. This is how these low peoples` mind works. Anyway undeterred, the Germans studied Sanskrit very well and wrote a lot about it. Then belatedly some English people started studying it to find not knowledge but common Hindu laws and also to find fault with Hindu religion and scriptures. So there was a fundamental difference between Germans (even Italian Jesuit priest and a Frenchman in 16 the century had studied) and the English. Germans studied because it was and is a beautiful language with literature no other in the world, while the english (who after Napoleonic war got real power in her history through default) studied to prove that Sanskrit was a fraud creation. Then even all evidence showed contrary to english view, the english first said that Veda was written soon after Alexander invasion. then the date Veda was pushed back to 55 BC. then 1000BC then (only after Al-Amarna tablet and Bogzhoiki tablet) was it pushed to 1500 years and then 1800 years. In other word ,malicious intention of English race has been to first deny. then malign and make Aryan literature not so old and it really is. This is from a shopkeepers race like English who never had real aristocracy but always talk of heritage and tradition. A tradition of pirate cum shopkeeper turned land grabber and then so called gentlemen with no culture and taste and talking of low life as pragmatism. In fact the Germans said that the Hindus were the Aryan race and Germans were somehow related to them in language. Germans used Indo-Germans while rightly restricting the Aryan word to Hindus. (In all Hindu scriptures there is no word -Hindu; it is always ARYa to denote Hindu race and literature. ). Of course the English jumped into this naming process and said `me too`. That is how Indo-European word came into being.
Basic thing is that when before Alexander the Greek language was considered un barbaric by Indian grammarians (who knew everything about origin-roots of language). Even the Greeks called the old Persian -barbaric (in way of foreign) language. And that old Persians was akin to Sanskrit. IN Persipolis (which Herodotus did not know because as non-Aryan Greek would not be invited in Emperor Darayaush` or his descendents` ceremony )there still is a relief of how Medians (foremost among the Persian Aryans) looked like. WE know how Darayaush the Great and his descendents looked like. There is also coin of other Iranians and Indians in Gandhar region (which has always been populated by Indian descendents). Compare to the =median’s coin( found archeologically) medians, coin profiles with Parsees (who fled Iran in 600 AD.) and with Many Sikhs, Bahamans, And a lot of North Indians-And you know what Aryans looked like. Indira Gandhi, Jubeen Mehta , and such are the typical Aryan faces. In profile, Aryans a have what In Sanskrit literature is called Eagle or Parrot like bent nose. Sides of the nostrils are arched and Eyes have a particular sharp angle with nasal bridge. Aryans are usually very hairy as well especially in Facial department. Besides when the Babylonian scribe about Kassites invasions (who it has been proved were Indians-full stop) they wrote about coming from East. Just by saying that it was Afghanistan does not disprove anything-of course Indians (Kassites) had to cross Afghanistan to come to Babylonia; besides Afghanistan till 600 A.D. had always been in Indian sphere of influence -population wise, culture wise. In fact Aryans homeland was what is today’s UP. and Northern Bihar regions of northern India
up to Narmada valley (Hahehya) in central India from whence they spread gradually to Punjab and then Afghanistan and then Iran. Even Medians called themselves coming from East and the real name of Persians was Persu-A Sanskrit word. Aryans regarded East as sacred and would never have said the region west and north of Afghanistan as derogatory sense if that had been their homeland. In Rig-Veda the 10 kings battle happened ain Punjab but historical background is given not in Rig Veda ( which is a sacred religion book) but in Brahmans (which explains Veda) .Those 10 kings had been fighting for more than 5 generations and it was a battle of kings from Varanasi and Pratishthan (from Narmada). Therefore before that Rig Veda was formed ,The Aryans had already been kings of Central-northern (Madhya Desh). Besides Aryans were not that great in material achievements as compared to their chief enemies (when they attacked Babylon) Asur. What characterised Aryans was their Horse-chariot use. no martial heritage, human warfare, and human attitudes to other peoples. What they hated most was shopkeeper like attitude and people like Panis(Phoenicians0. The enlish race is direct descendant of those hateful Phoenicians-Pirate turned shopkeepers. In fact the Phoenicians had a colony in what is know northern Holland. The English race in form of anglo-saxons came from that very water logged poor region of Holland. The Greeks knew of Celtics and hardly about Germans. Celtics came from same branch as the Latin’s. the Romans were told by the Barbarians( Germans here) hat tribes they constituted of. In none of that is mention given of Angles and Jutes-the two class which made English race. as if even the barbarians were ashamed of these jutes and angles. But Lombardy, Franks were the main tribes. Because Goths were living near Black sea( Till Huns overran them) these Goths came in contact with some of the remnants of Aryan tribes and also probably some of Emperor Ashoke`s Buddhist missionary who were spreading Buddhist religion there (Buddha called his views simply as arya religion). With that was early Christianity mixed and some early Goths adopted Aryan Christianity. That is the only and earliest relation of a German tribe with word denoting arya. As some one said, from German language it appears that German language is an Indo-European language adopted by non-Indo-European race. WELL THE ENGLISH RACE HAS RELATIONSHIP WITH NOT GERMAN RACE BUT WITH Holland. THOGH IT NEVER TALKS ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT WANTS TO ASSOCIATE ITSELF WITH MORE SUCCESFUL RACES. The only Aryan-derived race in Europe are Lithuanians. Irish also have got Aryan name in their country .in fact Irish, French and Latin’s all came from( evidenced by their earlier chronicles) from that what of Today’s Turkey where Indian in fork=m of Mittanis and Kassites and Hittes had established empire. In fact ,due to mountainous region many of the Kurds (descendents of uratu) have been able to maintain their Aryans face and features. One thing more. Many of the Rishis who composed holy of the holiest books of aryans-Ved were themselves labelled as dark-complexioned. and many of the Aryans kings-including ones in 10 kings battle in Veda have got Das surname (Name of non-Aryan slaves by western propagandists.). in fact if you look at world situation for last 500 years ,all these Aryan races have been enslaved by low grade
non-Aryan peoples. One thing more-there is no history of animosity between Aryans and Jews. The great Aryan king Kurush ( Cyrus ) freed Jews from Babylonian captivity. Jews have been well treated in only true Aryan country-India. What the Aryans hated was Panis (Phoenicians whose direct descendents (both mentally and racially) are the English race. In fact english are not an European race. They appropriate others` name Of course se but they are not. In Britannica encyclopaedia they write that Roman empire was nothing to do with Italy and Italians-it was world empire. Would they say british empire has nothing to do with English and britain?. They do not get tired of their 150 years empire but would not give the same credit to Italy. In many Roman ruins in Britain, they would mention in writing that the Romans soldiers were nothing to do with Italians. next to this writing is a few pictures of Romans men and women who certainly look like today’s Italians and certainly nothing like English anyway. Why do these bastards minimize others achievement. Because it gives them false sense of history and besides that is how they land up Hollywood role of Romans in americans film (And taking jobs from americans).Anyway, in 1900, one Griergson, surveyor -
general in India and a Sanskrit scholar wrote very revealing thing which has not been given as much importance. He said `` todays(19oo) many Englishmen have suddenly started calling themselves as Aryan and nothing can be further from fact. only Indians are Aryans.``
German Sanskritologist said that even the blackest Indian is more Aryan than the fairest Scandinavian. Incidentally most of the Germans are not blondes rather red-haired just like supposedly Irish. Point about Griergson` is that these Phoenicians-derived English race had aggressively calling itself Aryan and using it as a kind of racial superiority while exploiting the real Aryans in India. This happened much before Hitler and that explains despicable shopkeepers cum plumber` white superiority jibes in England and america both before and (more) after 2WW. In nutshell, these inferior people through media manipulation, spying and cheating crated 2ww. and caused so much misery with minimal loss of their life and interests. Those would believe such people usually get similar fate as later on it happened to Russia.

While WW2. was still going on, in @43 when the English started their spy work and propaganda against Russia( with whom they had made common cause against Hitler).The same way after cold war the same anti-communist propagandists of England would direct their propaganda against Capitalist Germany and European unity.
How english race has used the Jews for her own benefit-- ---- It is very interesting that the same type of english people (who are anti-communists, anti-blacks, anti-Muslims, anti-Catholics) started the same sort of propaganda (like used against Russians and communists) against The Germans. the French and Europeans in general. First England did not want Germany united though during cold war it suggested that only Russians are against it). soon after German reunification and even before disintegration of Soviet union ,England changed the lie-tactics( through media and government) against Europe. There is one more thing. nato was supposed to counter Warsaw pact, with the latter gone there was no discussion as to nato should be wound up or not. Europe does not need nato. Europe can have and should have her own defence system as is the Germo-Franco_Italian_Spanish collaboration. that European defence pact must be strengthened rather than Germany supporting nato. Actually england needs nato to prop up its nasty influence in military matters. With the help of Usa and nato has england been able to prop up her influence. In fact england is ant-Europe and through nato it wants to keep a tab on European affairs and not let Europe get strong on her own. As england can not do this own her own it has let America involved in it (during empire days england hardly shared power with America but it needs America now). Germany or Europe does not need nato. In fact nato is the greatest enemy (through england) of Germany and Europe. How can england be so much anti-Germany, working so much against German interests and be a major partner in common defence pact? It is a ludicrous situation. England manipulates financial market (in last8 years through recession and what not London market has risen 3 fold while far Eastern markets-who are the main producers of consumer goods-has fallen drastically.). That is why it pumped up the value of pound before joining European system- of course it was unsustainable but for devaluation of pounds the Germans and some Jews (as said by british propaganda machine BBC and sky TVs) were blamed. As england does not want German or any other European country to get economically strong and be financially independent of London market, it opposed Single currency vehemently. Even a so called left-paper like Guardian was suggesting that if Schroeder (of German SPD party) were the chancellor than he would give more say (than others in Europe) to England-so it would have been good. In other word they want special treatment for themselves. Why? When they talk of sovereignty is england not the main country pushing, threatening and cajoling the third world to accept World bank and IMF( created by america for England’s interest) so called structural reform regardless of people's wishes. If other country’s destiny can be controlled by bureaucrats in IMF. then why not England's by European's bureaucrats? England is the most beaurocratic and centralised country in Europe with all the regional making machinery smashed by the government with the help of bbc and all other propaganda machinery. And that England talks of local development and beaurocracy of European commission. Single European currency is a must for Europe not only for European economic advantage and stability but also because it will smash England’s power of financial market manipulation.
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In Fact the rest of Europe should actively discourage england to join Euro, because then England’s financial power will be smashed and it will be good news for Europe and the rest of the world. Not only England want to eat rotten, viral infected meat but also wants to force feed the rotten thing to the Europeans. When Germany resists this nasty move on part of england to take rotten meat ,then Germany-already a villain in their eyes -becomes a super villain. As soon as the news leaked out of viral infected meats, the first reaction of bbc was not as to why it happened but ''Can Europe ban the export legally?-has it got the right?''. there was never a hue and cry about cruel treatment of cows who were forced fed on infected animal meats (cows are vegetarian). This sort of so called commercial farming is the thing which has been pushed down the through of rest of world through GAT. which was made to suit anglo00saxons' interest. France was right to oppose gat in this form. If the similar thing happened in any other country in the world then this the same british media including bbc would hope said a cruel, primitive practice for rotten meat with no regard for peoples health or animals@ welfare. In fact for showing so much cruelty to animals in this case it is not the animals which should be killed but the peoples (british farmers and their media propagandists). There was and is always a support for such disgusting affairs by the british peoples and it shows what sort of people they are. we will british meat even if it is rotten. in fact there was hardly a influx of foreign meats following disclosure. This phenomenon of using rotten british product is not confined to beef-it extends to everything . in fact protectionism at home and forced infiltration abroad is the name of game in england. And this is the country talking about liberalization. That is why british products, though rotten in quality are high in price. All this because of underlying protectionism. That is also why you will not only not get fresh ,healthy products but also you do not find variety in british life. In the name of traditional (to protect the internal market) britain sells to own people and a few foreign stooges, the same rotten cheese, the same low quality high priced car and same rotten but high price arms (Saudis and others are fed with it). Actually this clone like cancerous feature is very much english way of life. the english live in only 4 or 5 varieties of house, their furniture is the same 4 to five varieties their clothes are they same rotten un smart types and their food is the same rotten type with rotten ingredients. Then why do the english live? for extracting money for money sake. this ia feature of parasitic and cancerous race. the same thing they have exported to where they went. that is why all anglo saxons countries show lack of variety. and it is the english who accused Russians of imposing their culture destroying variety in soviet union. As to talk of this supporting own rotten meat and drug industry (tobacco) for the sake of jobs, why can not the third world support her own industry for their jobs and prosperity. at lest third world still produces better quality food and clothes and even car than the general british Joe is used to. When agitation was going on in South Africa in '86 against apartheid, the bbc reported in support of apartheid that otherwise in case of sanctions against s.africa it would be british profits and jobs which would be lost. Such peoples who benefit by others misery should be made jobless. In fact capitalism and so called freedom for them means freedom to exploit other nations and give them misery. For themselves english never practice free market-it is for foreign suckers. England is a protected and market for themselves and their rotten products. For example, Honda (which rescued B.L. and rovers are the same cars but rovers cost more because it is british car and because they sometimes put a thin veneer of wood in it. Bearing in mind the british homes have hardly got a furniture of solid good wood, the english are selling their cars not on engineering but on carpentry and tatty presentation. And as these shopkeepers never have class, they make a lot of noise about class too. in fact what british media says and what truth is 180 degree apart. For foreign goods (car, consumer items etc) the english would be very fussy and want to get at least price abut for british goods they would create all lies and excuses to pump up the price and sell. That ids why the advanced countries in Europe and far east are in recession and britain and other anglo-saxon countries (which except america is only primary producers of land-oil. timbers. etc-land stolen from others in last 250 years) are in boom. It is not even alive and let live. english like to wreck others ' prospect of prosperity or happiness. For example. england knew that it had no outside chance of staging soccer world cup. but it put forward proposal nevertheless at last minute at a time when Germany was well favourite for that. Why?-to wreck chances for Germany to stage one. So Germany lost not only that glory but also a lot of money to immense satisfaction of english press and people. unemployment in Germany could have eased up if it had got the offer to stage world cup, but no. And it is this Germany who agreed to british request to delay monetary union for 2 years (When britain is not going to be part of it even) . Had that monetary union come about earlier, German chancellor would not have been facing this problem as he is now. But then england has always survived on folly of these suckers who do not know who their real friend or enemy are. nato which ia really an agent for english interest (and broadly anglo saxon interest) should have been rejected by Germany and also euro-fighter in place of truly European (excluding britain of course) military alliance. but Germany lost that chance and new cold war (england has always done cold wars, it is too coward to enter in direct confrontation without first weakening enemy with lies and propaganda machinery like Bbc and others) has begun. For those who do not believe this let me give an example. Soon after fall of Berlin war, the editor of Sunday times (who is renowned racist, anti communist and anti poor, pro capitalist and later came out to be anti Germans and anti French as well) said on bbc that to protect nato and english interests in Europe ,may be americans should get out of Germany and than british garrison can stay there because americans would be resented as occupying foreign forces while britain can simply say that they are European as well and so stay. This from a man who is European hater and is one of leading propagandists against Germany (as he was against Russia).So there you are-cat is out. The english are a foreign intrusive element in Europe through nato. In fact england should not have been allowed in European community ,barring this england must not be allowed to join European single currency if one wants to insure stability and cohesive strength of Euro. It is very interesting that the same editor of Sundays times who rave about like a mad dog against Germans ,French, Europe in general and of course against blacks and socialists was also a sort of adviser to lady Diana. That lady diana@s most of the friends during her fame have been what can be described, for lack of better word, a representative of greedy '80s is significant. Diana was a representative of that greedy shameful period called 80s and her main friends were the same exploiters which made 80s'climate of greed and selfishness possible. Diana was mainly liked by lower class shopkeepers and plumbers class -in other word whose forefathers were Lumpen proletariat only a generation or two. She was neither aristocratic in taste nor her friends were. but the same Diana -a darling of greedy exploiters with no class_ is being pumped up by british people as some angel. This is all to give themselves importance. While bbc and british media always ignore others countries’ important and good news, the other countries should also ignore british media and operate the same voluntary blanket on british news( which in reality are not important anyway). There is no point in giving exposure and importance to the very propaganda machinery (british media) which though belonging to not even a 4th league in military is a dangerous adversary for spreading lies and demoralisation (they call it cold war-the only war they are effective at).Even you see what happened after cold war then you realize that what a shame the cold war was ad only for the benefit of britain. Since then soviet empire is gone but britain still boasts of evil empire called british empire which existed before soviet empire. If it was all right for Russians (as was advised by britain ) to exchange tanks for tractors, to exchange empire for so called freedom the why did not britain disband empire in 1880(the same level of power as enjoyed by Russia in 1970): why britain not stop forcefully imposing a sell of arms on Saudi Arabia? propaganda was that soviet union was governed by a select few without any say of parliament. Who were those western media peoples advising Yelstin to storm the parliaments and if possible kill the parliamentarians if they do not approve of yelstin plan to sell Russia to English tobacco and liquors interests and english pimps? Of course it were mainly english and anglo saxons who were advising yelstin to take all the measures to be sell Russia cheap. soon after storming of parliament yelstin, with the support of anglo saxon media brought a constitutional changes to give himself a dictatorial power. But then he is a western( read anglo saxon stooge) therefore he was hailed for that in western media. The result. There is only one thing selling in all earst while communist country---Anglo-american tobaccos product( drug), british and anglosaxon@whisky and liquors and prostitution. English never was, is or will be a language of culture but certainly it has become a language of prostitution and drugs (cigarettes) advertisement. Therefore through that mad, weak, ill man Yelstin these anglo saxons have made prostitutes of women, wife’s and girlfriends; have left the helpless children on the cold, cruel streets and left the olds (who worked hard for their pension able life) pauper forced to beg on the street. Even full war does not do that. Soviet union had better dropped hundred hydrogen bombs on England and then gone pauper at least it would have satisfaction of having levelled with the enemy. (In fact in cold war Russia did not need to target anywhere, if britain had the first possibility of being annihilated then war( because it was controlled by british and pro-british elements in states) would never have arisen. Cold war against Russia was started for the same reason as cold war against Germany has started. TO keep britain in picture as it gives them a sense of false position, to harass other country and wreck others economy. IN august90, the soviets had captured some persons with british passports who were pumping up False notes of Roubles in Russia. IN other words they were british agents who ,by putting illegal tenders were making rouble go down in value and ultimately wrecking Russian economy. The english are very careful of their savings and pension and economy. their deeds in other countries must be remembered to get even. Therefore english nature is to be cancerous like low form of life’s' like spread and to be very intrusive, and to pass as parasite from one host to another (they call it cold war). Other country have no choice to neutralize this cancer and remove it forcefully and bodily because otherwise the same game would be going on for ever. The main aim of england in Europe is (and has been( to create a rift between Germany and France or Russia or whosoever is strong so that england can play her intrusive role in Europe and bullying role in world. Having failed in creating this rift, the same english propagandists are saying that Europe should not become strong because it will create a rift and possible war between Europe and America. Why? When according to the same english propagandists american culture is( or should remain) predominantly European then why should be such a rift. Gradually with Europe getting powerful, this idea of rift will be instilled into americans just as a cold war was started between earst while allies by the english agents in media in britain and america. But why should america be influenced-it should not but it is : so let us examine the role of english propagandists in shaping up american foreign and domestic policy.
How britain got hold on america after american independence-- --- This all started soon after Napoleonic war when in 1816 to 1817 The english again attacked america in her southern flanks and the day was saved only because of some French navy mercenaries and French speaking population of Louisiana and such states along with non-english origin americans. But the english invaders infiltrated among that population of Southern america which today calls itself bible belt (whose god has always been english royalty and who worship only stolen money).By 1850 to 1860 England attacked erstwhile friend (in Napoleonic war) Russia in Crimea along with erstwhile foe (now controlled by unpopular english stooge) France.-how the same pattern is so predictable in case of this intrusive, cancerous exploitative race called english and anglo saxons. At that very time England was actively supporting the slave exploitation, in fact all the big plantation owners were english derived and they owned loyalty not to flag of United states of america but to England. -in other words they were agents of foreign country who wanted to keep south america occupy as foreign power again. The civil war in america was not only supported with money and arms by england but rather england was the instigator of american civil war in order to keep whole of america enslaved and if not possible at least those parts (South) where it could call upon filial loyalty. It was truly a war of race-not against whites and blacks but against anglo saxons versus blacks, Irish, other European peoples .The same would be repeated in future. The confederacy was a traitor to america-a british agents; but ironically that same confederacy flag today is being propagandised by their descendents as symbol of american independence and patriotism. Having lost the proxy war england resorted to the one thing it specialises-terrorism and misinformation. Abraham Lincoln was murdered by the person very sympathetic to british cause. (against Napoleon england had sent several terrorist squads-that is why Napoleon had to declare Himself an Emperor to maintain the clear line of succession to protect glorious French Revolution). It is very interesting that most of the american presidents assassinated were those whom England did not want being elected. By the end of civil war ,instead of disinfranchasising the british supporters (of southern states) and taking away their land or at least redistributing evenly the stolen land, the american govt. was persuaded by britain to spare them and let those southern traitors keep all the stolen land so that drug (tobacco) and cotton would be of assured supply to england. Of course by that time because of fall of Napoleon (brought about not by military might but by conspiracy to embroil the Europeans among each other( conspiracy hatched in London-that was the only english contribution to napoleons' fall-forget waterloo where Austrians and Prussians had contributed most militarily):consequently england got free reign to exploit the rest of the world and amassed wealth. With that new loot the english shopkeepers started not only factory but also bought titles (Always a purchasable item in england) and started giving themselves high sounding titles and names. With that they started the rumour that english people had class and aristocracy and america could rub some off it if it was willing to ply right and play right. During that period england started propaganda of herself being friend of america though in britain news it hardly gave any importance to americans except with contempt. When the first world war came, england had already infiltrated in the american decision making process.( Though some of southern traitors had fled to Canada, most had remained to slowly spread their cancerous tentacles tn American govt. The first world war had been started by england to destroy Germany and Russia at the same time. England had got envious of germane prosperity (by 1870 Germany without an empire had taken over england in industrial).Encyclopaedia Britannica writes (anyone can verify that) about Bismarck that Bismarck was aggressive in domestic policy but very peaceful in foreign policy because he did not interfere with Others' empire making process. Try telling that to the then French and Austrian peoples. This only shows how the mind of england and anglo saxon race works even today. The same encyclopaedia hardly gives any credit of roman empire to Romans or Italians saying it was an world empire so Italians ((even of Rome) had little to do with. Take all the credit for a bandit cum shopkeeper's empire (british which lasted 100 to 150 years but no credit to Romans for an empire of much better quality and longer duration. anyway during 1st world war the slogan of england was freedom for world from German aggression who wanted to take away world. This was from a shopkeeper's country who had imposed devastating assault on the whole world not only economically and politically but also environmentally. The evil was giving a slogan to be spared! Though the main intention of Germans was against Russia (to which england had secretly given support) on england@s backstabbing Germans took decision to sort out the English as well. With all the resources of empire (men and arms not to speak of money) England could not do anything against Germans who had been embroiled (as was planned by england-Belgium's sovereignty was an excuse) on two fronts. This shows the inferiority of English military power at the height of her power (but then it never won war on strength but through indiscreet looking spies. What Hitler said of Jews was all wrong, it never applied to Jews. Hitler was barking at wrong tree. What Hitler said of Jews applies only to english race and not to anybody else. The Jews in freemasonry are english agents-in freemasonry are many peoples other than Jews. in fact freemasonry is shopkeeper@s race (english) spy machinery as are all the british journalists who are still working-after clearance from british spy service-mm5-as british spy. The Jews got all the blame because their very small fish-main mastermind of international ring to take over world for its own geed use has been england’s and no one else. Anyway ,English army and navy were so ineffective against German might that by 1917 england was loosing the war. Then come the immense pressure to declare war against Germany by america. -in name of democracy. before that democracy word had not been used to defend anything. Now facing defeat england started talking of democracy just as it started talking of democratic reform 99 years after ruling Hong Kong-an year before departure. Democracy from then will mean not what it is supposed to mean in dictionary meaning-but a special kind of system anywhere in the world which protects english interest and which allows england to exploit others race. A very famous news mogul (Jewish) had been stopped from running american presidency because he might not have been inclined to rescue england in the 1st world war. Anyway, the southern constituency was pressing hard for america to come to rescue england who was staring defeat and thus loosing the prospect of enslaved nations who would have been feed from defeat of england. America did come to aid of england and it was called end of isolationalism. But this end of isolationalism would be tolerated only when it suits english interest against others and not in case of others like freedom for Irish people in northern Ireland (an occupied part of Ireland). But american intervention was not decisive-Russian winter was As it would be another war 20 years later. But the pattern had been set-up for america to make her polices to suit english interest not only in domestic policy but also in foreign affairs. IN fact in pursuing such policy America is acting against the home countries of majority of her citizens. But who says in democracy majority rules . Who says in democracy peoples have choice. Democracy as practised and refined by the british media propagandists is any system of government -even by a psychotic like yelstin in Russia-which benefits british business and gives jobs to british people at the same time making pauper and slave ,stooge of english interest. Between the 2 world war, even before the rise of Hitler in Germany the british agents and british sympathisers (who used to keep a photo of queen Victoria in '20s as object of worship) started a terror of murder, killings and what not against not only the blacks but also Catholics. This is how british always operate. first let be it white versus blacks. then whites versus Jews. all one at time otherwise victims will be forewarned and retaliate . then white versus white Catholics. then whites versus white Germans. They do like that in nations they do to peoples.--- only if the people realize that and finish these parasites off once for all! Those very confederacy flag bearers had recruited a lot of other whites to their cause and later on they would attack those whites also whose origin did not look like from england-one by one. Those same racists were the first to pressurise america to join 2nd world war for saving britain. so their racism was and is not for white race but for a shopkeepers’ race derived from Phoenicians (no European) and who the world knows by the name of English and anglo-saxon race. From the 1st day of 2nd world war America secretly supplied arms and supplies. british spitfire and other british arms were low quality useless junks-american plane along with Japanese Mitsubity and German planes were the real weapons of 2nd world war-but then british and anglo saxon media would like you to believe otherwise. Rest we know. With 80 % of German's forces on winter Russian soil, even then Germans were more superior in might and valour then the english who simply were conniving how to embroil others in the war rather than fight themseselves. Israelis in last 50 years have won spectacular victories (without assistance of UNO sanctions agents enemies, unlike some (in 48 war \Israelis Massesmitchs plane destroyed RAF plane flown by english( fighter) pilots who dared raid against Israel). Then british threatened Israel with dropping atomic bomb over Israel. But Israelis do not celebrate so much (even 30 anniversary of taking of Western Wall in 67) with military band and show and do the english with their tartly shows of crap british war machine. But main point is why should american sources and effort be directed solely against others for the benefit of England (nor=t even Scotland in recent Scotland limited freedom referendum bbc was vehemently opposed to giving any power other than a token on to install own bus service or erect toilets). After all the population (legal) of united states constitutes more than 69 5 of those who did not come from Britain let alone england. In fact those who are noe-englang derived are the main people who made america great otherwise america would have remained like Canada-the largest country in the world with stole land of immense proportion ad thus benefiting from what comes out of stolen land-oil, timber, grain. Canada constituting mainly of (not French Canada) those peoples who fled states after their forefather’s failed coup attempt to take over united states (and thus relation of low brained confederacy's descendendents ) are british agents and also primary producers of the land (stolen). Canada gross product constitutes very little of what man produces by brain or talent. The same way is of australia and new Zealand. these non-american anglo saxon countries arte third world-in fact their brain power is less than that of third world people. But then as west, as understood by English is really England and her descendents (anglo saxons) these backward countries-culturally and by criteria of per square kilometres’ product. It is exactly what united states was until influx of immigrants from central and southern Europe incidentally came to america with more money than the british. By the way Canada is among the most 4th debted nation in the world but no body likes to expose and discuss it. It is the German scientists (till 1930 language of science was German and not English, it was after German speaking scientists came to america that gradually english( broken) became the language of high science. IT is because of effort of these non-english immigrants that america acquired power of which she is so boastful and which made her powerful. As that intellectual property right of foreign country (rocket making, atomic bomb making ,china crockery, tea even gunpowder from china) was stolen by both america and britain ,without paying royalty (how much british wedge wood or royal Doulton or Lipton tea has paid to china for having stolen china's product and reverse engineering?; it is why this so called GAT pact must be scraped (as it produces rotten british beef in agriculture for once) and other countries should enquire whatever arms they want without giving a damn about anglo saxon world who incidentally dropped one and only one atomic bomb without their security having been jeopardized (that is why they did it-if they know that they will also be annihilated then there will a peace-borne out of fear. the only language anglo saxons understand. Anyway what these non-english immigrates got out of all these contribution? denigrating remarks, patronizing talk, and deliberate attempt to annihilate their identity-they call it mixed bowl. \even Einstein has not got a stream in the university town of Princeton.\\they are called ethnic americans-Italian, Greek, Lithuanian (Who incidentally are the only Aryan race speaker apart from Latin in whole of European peoples and in america).Jewish ,Spanish etc. Implication being they are not really americans but only anglo saxons are ,. Even the Hispanic have been made villain as non americans. AS Spanish were the first to discover america and stay) one third of america is stolen from Spanish Mexicans) and Hispanic are Spanish and some are even half Spanish and half original americans (Called Indians),those Hispanic are the one who have got most right to stay in united states. But they are being labelled black as a sort of derogatory undesirable way. Blacks are the one who contributed most to what is any culture in america.129 years after slavery abolition and 220 years independence, the blacks are not even third class citizen. It is this same america who .in order to harass other nation on one pretext or other ask third world country to improve human right situation, IN fact america and england combined should be prosecuted in a war crime tribunal for crime committed against her citizens( non-england derived) and culprits 'property and all assents confiscated with capital punishments for many of tobacco barons and others pushers of alcohol ,cigarettes and what not. Main point is this england through her control of english proprietorship, and through ufo-seeing morons (english gene plays a role here) have completellty manipulated most of not-british -derived americans people that there is common cause with those parasites first in name of black again white, having won that then they attack whit catholic, Jews, Spanish, Germans and so on but not all at the same time-the game then will be revealed. Most of the english derived peoples are making money in jobs which does not require brain but are primary producers-of land( stolen from others)-timber. forestry, prairie agriculture, oil extraction etc. in other words anybody can do that if they also had that land. it is parasitic living. Unfortunately these land produced goods are what makes most profit (unless it happens to other countries ; product then price will be manipulated to go down to lowest possible level).Because of that parasitic ill-gotten money-which remained in the hand of traitors to united states( because after civil war their land was not confiscated as it should have been) these southern village idiots (bible belt dwellers- eumpherically called middle america) got rich and had undue influence on american policy anglo saxons are low bred Phoenician derived shopkeepers race, it is not surprising that money is their god and exploitation and hatred their motto, and cowardice is their prudence and spying their only means of fighting for a such a coward weaklings. But majority of americans are long that because they do not belong to anglo saxon race. IN fact they are more intelligent and capable than all the anglo saxon morons of the world put together. They must make a think tank to root this evil out. They demand that there is enough talent in america it selves to make Hollywood film and stop the british actor getting any job-the jobs which would have gone to americans. They should give less value to media pumped up british pop musician whose song look like coming from badly split bamboo. And it is through british control media and Hollywood that a positive picture is sought to be given of english shopkeepers (saying that they somehow come from classy background-in fact every Indian and Asian and German who went america came from much superior background -economically, socially, breeding and education than these english lowlifes who end up in Hollywood only because they can speak (they can not write correctly-word processor comes to heir aid) in a low accent-more like fishmonger and most like a corner shop owner. DO we want these low lives from britain? Their visa should be confiscated and they need to apply the for visa the same way as any other people do. and selection criteria should be as stringent as for those from other country. In other words they not only have to pass stringent professional exam but also prove without reasonable doubt that they will be of PhD. material. as for visa casual servants works like au-pair must be stopped. there are a lot of better americans who can do it without killing babies.
All the non-english derived (i.e. non anglo saxon race) race has to come together on this agenda to remove this english race's cancerous infiltration in america and it will be done because that disease does not let you leave in people and happiness. It feeds on others misery. this awareness can completely remove this england parasite from american scene and only then will america be free atlas.
American south confederacy--traitor to Usa
and agents of britain-- It is the same class of british loving american traitors who hunted down all free thinking director, producers, actors and artists from Hollywood. They hunted the Jews so much that though Hollywood had been started by the Jews ,the Jews never dared put in Hollywood films anything other than glorifying those southern and western bandits who were of english extraction. the Hollywood became a propaganda and fictional plot to further english interest. The hunting of conscientious artists had been going on before war but after Hitler it intensified. And these same racists did to Jews and other minorities in Hollywood worse than Hitler could do to German film industry. since then Hollywood has become an easy employment place for all sorts of rubbish british star who would get the jobs to the detriment of real american subjects. british are not even grateful to the americans for that. They would propaganda for british films which are equally bad. failing their attempt to pump up british films, they would infiltrate american films including even the alien films where their low accent has no relevance. Then the british propaganda against Hollywood that it is rubbish( though when French will like more European films then they would protest). Hollywood is rubbish not in spite of but because of the presence of british (english) actors and so called british artists. Also Hollywood’s agenda is determined by the british agents for England’s interest. That is why is the Hollywood rubbish-because of english stars' presence. and americans must wrest away this control for themselves rather than leaving Hollywood as means of propaganda and employment for english foreigners.
President Truman( a british agent) used to have keep Victoria’s picture in his childhood sleeping room-no wonder he gave to the british secret( stolen from Germany) of atom bomb. Even president Kennedy( who the english race did like to have been not to be elected) allowed britain (in order to make old man Macmillan happy) have a nuclear submarine which britain called Polaris. Britain has not got an independent nuclear power-it has been given as a charity case by the americans .All because of propaganda and manipulation by british lobby in america. It is the same british lobby who raised the spectra of hordes of Hispanic invasion to america -and it called those Spanish speaking peoples black. For all the non-british peoples in america there is only and only one enemy-england and her agents in america.
Recent bastardly acts of britain since end of so called british sponsored cold war--- And start of new world war--- These days for last few years a lot of Kurdish refugees( who by the way are more Aryans than all the Europeans combined-though it is irrelevant here) are escaping from Turkey because of Turkish pressure. But nobody has ever stopped Turkey from having her air space nor has anyone bombed turkey. And why should anyone? Who has given right to a handful of countries to be a policeman? Could they dare demand such thing at time of so called cold war? Every December ,ever since gulf war there is a show of bullying tactics by anglo-saxons in middle east. There is really no ground but excuse is created because this race feels uplifted when others are insulated. Also there is a low cost exercise in bullying any other nation by military postures.
How Britain was mouthing venom against Israel in 1981 and ‘82.
Why should Iraq not have weapons as he desires? in 1981, when the Israelis had bombed the Iraqi nuclear reactor (a few days before going critical) it was britain) govt, and british media) who had vehemently opposed Israeli daring action and did a lot of anti-Jewish propaganda. At least Begin had a reason to fear from the Arab enemy of Israel. even in '82 Lebanon war it was britain which was most vociferous in criticizing Israeli military action at the same time minimizing the Israeli Air force’s achievement in destroying Bacca’s valley missiles through high tech method. Read any paper from June 81 till June ‘83 and see how britain -both government and media was anti Israeli and was for Lebanon to be free from Israeli but not Syrian influence-in fact british advocated Syrian interference in Lebanon. And british media (BBC) was very enthusiastic in minimizing the military achievement of Israeli ) in that war) In fact What americans did in gulf war was what Israeli had achieved way back in '82 in Lebanon war and America obtained that military know-how from Israelis after Lebanon war. But gulf war is justifiable on basis of military superiority but not Lebanon war. In fact when an american general said that america learned a lot from Israelis' achievement then the american defence minister Weinberg said that America learned not from Israeli but from British. Of course we all know that Weinberg was (awarded sir) more of a british defence minister than american one. He was pro-british and anti-Jewish (and anti Russian and all others as well). In fact in Lebanon war the american foreign secretary was changed because the british did not like Hague's attitude. This much britain exercises influence in american affairs. Now having installed all the stooges in Arab world britain has discarded her sham veil of Arabists and openly insults( through america of course because on own britain is not even a fourth grade power) the Arab world. Talking about the stooge, have you wondered why these days even Yeltsin's bad health no longer makes any headline news in anglo saxon world? Before any cold that Yeltsin had was noticed and still before that any peon from Russia had a headline news ' material. The reason is simple. Britain has installed in Russia not only a mad man likes yelstin but also a second line of stooge successor to him. After Yelstin usefulness is over then he will be replaced by those second line of british stooge who at the moment are already controlling Russia and destroying her everyday. Democracy ,as understood today, basically means any system which gives free hand to britain to exploit other races. If their is one example of what an evil this so called capitalism is and what a saviour communism (britain does not dislike communism, she dislikes other's prosperity and independence whether it comes from communism, nationalism or what ever) is: this ruinous example of Russia is the real lesson. China is right to hold on to her nationalistic pursuit. It really is a war between anglo-saxons and the rest of the world. It is a race war. Sooner the rest of the world realizes that better it would be and this danger would be sorted out.
CND and amnesty International-british agents for british interests- -- You remember that at the height of cold war in mid 80's there was a lot of activities of C.N.D. You would expect that with so called cold war finished, this C.N.D. would be asking to the british peoples to leave the nuclear weapons given to her, out of pity and filial relationship , by the United states. But exactly opposite happened. C.N.D. has been defunct since than. It is as if that was a front of the british govt. to show by way of propaganda that that country had some moral voice. In other words, C.N.D. was a sham created by the british to give them respectability. Of course when a non-anglo saxon country could perfect their nuclear weapon, as France rightly did (in 1995), then there would be a lot of hue and cry by the anglo-saxons' media. France and china are right in strengthening their independent military power. The real danger to world comes from england and her anglo saxons agents. France understand that and Germany was a fool in not supporting France in Nato meeting this Summer. Just as CND has been proved a sham of british propaganda, more so is the sham which goes by the name of amnesty international. It is interesting that as soon Falkland war started, within a few weeks this amnesty international presented a dozier on Argentina. In the same way as soon gulf war started (soon after Iraqi’s intervention in Kuwait) the same amnesty international presented a dozier and report on Iraqi’s atrocities. an fact many of the amnesty allegations were just a copy of what british media was saying and which later on proved to be fabrication and great big lies. But this did not dent the reputation of amnesty international. british propaganda ensured that. IN '88 when Dalai lama, at the height of Tibetan disturbances, visited west, the then british prime minister refused to meet Him. Later on with the demise of Russia and usefulness of China gone and with manipulation to keep power in Hong Kong somehow intact, the same british media and government ,like dog, started barking at China. It is interesting that amnesty international selectively targets those very countries( as it did china after cold war) who are out of favour (because they would not be a british stooge) of the british media and govt. This is not surprising as amnesty international is the creation of british govt, and british media. england with the most appalling record of human rights in last 200 years of her evil rule, needed some organisation to keep the others from charging england off her past and current evil practices. In other words it went for aggressive posture in propaganda war so that others can be demoralized and stopped from pointing out the real evil which is england. That is why amnesty international is one armour of the british lies to exploit the rest of the world. Amnesty international must be ignored and an independent human watchdog (which england will simply ignore) created. One purpose of amnesty international is to create an atmosphere for hatred towards the would be victims of british exploitation so that a victim could be blamed to have deserved the consequences. That is why ,now amnesty international sometimes threatens China, sometimes India and etc. India because India needs to be cowed down and also so that India does not make nuclear weapon and thus feel free from future american (read english and anglo saxon) aggression. This is all to create an atmosphere of misinformation. The other countries are also responsible (out of sheer inferiority complex) for giving these instruments of british propaganda so much importance. If they simply ignore and then the british lies and then themselves go in offensive (they can do it-no problem) against british exploitation and propaganda then those countries would not in such dire strait as they are now. Think, this deterioration has happened in only last 20 years( though the british have been at this game for a long time but they were not always successful when others have been vigilant).Ignoring and fighting all this anglo saxons propaganda, the other races (yes it comes to that) must unite and support each other against this common enemy england. The other nations should also go nuclear and assemble as much arm as possible ,collaborate on it and ignoring this anglo saxon race they must be prepared for war which then would be prevented otherwise it would come inevitably. The other nations need to arm themselves to protect themselves from anglo saxon race. Thinking any other way is simply kidding oneself. And it can be done and will be done.

avatar singh, delhi, india

its sad that americans consider themselves not responsible for war like situations which exist throughout the middle east and in particular in iraq. it was ameriaca's own decision to attack iraq for which the whole region and americans too are paying a heavy price. all the media channels have only news related to the wars in afghanistan and iraq and pictures of destruction. young kids are growing up without parents and will be a potential source of jehadi organisations in future. by attacking iraq and destabilising the region, americans have increased the risks of atack by islamic fundamentalist instead of decreasing them. yet they claim that they are not responsible for this situations. now targeting iran would be another blunder. its better to leave countries on their own fate and looks aftre their own affairs to make the world a better place to live in.

hars, jaipeu,

I really pity the ignorance of Americans on their History and Economics knowledge. The US economy grew only from the money it obtained from weaponry sales and debts during the world war2 and other wars it still fighting in the name of Democracy. Previously they gained profit from selling weapons, now by plundering oil from rightful owners. Taliban was an organization supported & nurtured by the US to stop the influence of Russia in west Asia. US invaded Iraq on the pretext of biological & chemical bombs but there is no report of a single bomb till date. Now they are paying the price for their mistakes.They complain other nations and even boast themselves of being a world police.
Just think of India, China, Russia embargoes US , then the whole US economy will come to a standstill. This is not possible because we all live in a system which is interlinked. This link should not be broken by an unipolar power there should be a balanced power. China, India & Russia are indeed superpowers.

Pearl, Chennai, India

I agree with Neel from Canada.The U.S.A. will def remain the most powerful military and econmic powerhouse for many years to come but there is nothing wrong with having other powerbases on this planet.....esp and as long as they work with us as "friendly" rivals and not outright enemies.The U.S. tax payer can no longer suffer the burden of being the worlds police officer.This should be spread through out the planet with other prosperous and powerful nations.

Mike, Fishkill, USA/NY

It would be nice if all the 'America Haters' would stop blaming the USA for the worlds problems and wake up to the reality that there are countries out there that want to see our demise. Self-protection is not 'Bullying' and terrorists are not 'Freedom Fighters'. Wake up peacenicks!

Anthony, Tacoma, WA, USA

Maybe we should try to quit fighting each other and behave like normal peaceful people. The world has seen and noted that W. R. Bush is not the smartest president the US ever had, but his thinking and actions are controlled by others. And when they say :"jump!" he jumps.
It would be nice to think that parts of the EU would join that new association in Asia and help in building the second powerbase in this world.
But then, maybe I'm just dreaming.....

Warren M Moore, New York, NY

The world is changing rapidly and as many say " erosion of American influence in world affairs, have already started".
Although America would still remain, the dominant economic and military powwer in next fifty years or so, there would surely be other power centres by that time. It is definitely a good trend, because unipolar world leads to unilateralism , that could be dangerous for world peace, as the Iraq war has proved beyond doubt.

Neel, Calgary, Canada

America is not perfect, then who is? I wish people would just sit back for ten minutes and think what the world would be like now and what freedom we would have if we had a weak America. Think about it and then stop complaining.

Dennis, Suffolk, England

Ignorance. If your biggest customer is bankrupt then what happens to you? China can't call in the debt or it would have to find new jobs for 100 million of its people.

Steve Dallas, honolulu, Hawaii

Maybe China will see the light and call in the American government's debt it
holds. THAT would stop a whole bunch of our interventionist behaviour immediately and put the screws to the debt-spending of both the American middle-class and the government. For our long-term strength, America doesn't need a recession, but a full on, decades long DEPRESSION to balance our books and teach those same profligate debt-spenders some economic responsibility. Unfortunately, we've gotten so spoiled that for us to learn, it's going to need to HURT. Besides, then China, India and Russia can spend their own money playing the global bullies game. Have at it gentlemen.

Deborah Terreson, Portsmouth, N.H, USA

There is nothing to get startled about. Sooner or later it has to be and it will be as long as America will project an image of bully. Intervention in Iraq and Afghanistan,both independent nations, without U.N. approval on filmsy grounds ( this is actually what the people think in Asia and elsewhere..). has sent wrong signals across the globe and no country is feeling secure. Asia for example is feeling the heat of American misadventure, and no doubt Putin has vented his feelings in no uncertain term. America is actually helping the formation of an Asian block with China, India, Pakistan, Koreas,Viet Nam,Indonesia, Malaysia and others who are technological giants. It will be something of a European Union with multilateral trade and technological agreements. This will be an unfortuante divison of the world This, probaly, will be the beginning of an END. Time is still there to rectify the situation . America has a duty to bring peace as a super power and should make an effort now.

Nazim Hasan Khan, Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates

China holds many of the bonds for US debt. All it has to do is call them in and the US will do as it is told.

Hamad Lone, Thornton Heath, Saudi Arabia

If PEACE would be profitable, would we still fight wars ?
" Terrorism is the opressed people response to counter act DEAFNESS "
Bush is the smartest president ever.......

(it is his second term..?!.)

andras szekely, Millville NJ., USA

The U.S. is considerably more religious than other Western countries and tends to interpret world events differently. Most Americans are Christian and many get their knowledge of the world and the middle east from the Bible. Islam is viewed with suspicion and many believe we are living in the End Times. Most non-Americans think they understand Amerixca, because they watch U.S. films. But Hollywood is not representative of America.The U.S. and the rest of the world will continiue to misundertand each other.

Martin blank, seattle, WA

time for sanctions on the US, put a 50% tax on all weapons exports and stop the bloodshed NOW! Before King George invades Iran.

jim, Cottage Grove, OREGON, usa

Everybody wants to talk and be listened to...but who will make the REAL contribution of money and might when it's needed? Thanks Britain for making a real contribution, as difficult as it may be.

James, Minneapolis, USA

The worst President in decades? Like how many decades? does that include William Jefferson ? Carter?

m. guymon, irving, texas

Joe, Farmington, MN.

...sorry but you don't know really much about the real history. I was shocked what kind of disinformation is taught in American history class.

America is the thread number one to world peace. Moreover the political system has finally reached what Germany had in the Third Reich. Executive power, no checks and balances, a messed up jurisdiction and no more the seperation of powers.

I'm sorry to tell you but the Hitler finally won the vicotry.

Guenter Monkowski, Holualoa, HI

Yes, thank you god yes! Finally someone is going to stop our retarded President that we Americans are too lazy to get together to impeach. It's about damn time.

Marty, Hammond, USA

So the stance these three countries are taking are directly tied to economic benefit to each country so Russia veto's any UN proposal against Iran for it's own gain even though they are a part of the non-proliferation agreement? Does that not contradict itself. If not for US money the UN would not even exist.

Lyon, ontario, Canada

Increasingly, It seems the America-haters are emboldened. They should be. Our current sitting President is without question the worst in decades, and our willingness to cut our leaders alot of slack has placed America in a bad postion. There. Got that done.
Now,on to all of you, or at least the Euros among you. Forget the daily back and forth of "how America ruined my life", because if you had any sense at all of how things should be, you would not have ventured across the Atlantic, and there never would have been an America.
Good luck to you all, and may you find peace and happiness, and ever so much more "justice' with your new, Asian overlords.

The Col.

Walter kurtz, Princeton NJ, USA

Why would anyone expect that this particular trio would be more likely than the U.S. to "promote international harmony and understanding”? Why would we expect that together they would be likely to oppose those actions of the U.S. which are opposed to liberal democratic values? Why would we expect they would not oppose those actions of the U.S. which promote liberal democratic values?

Mark Mealey, Calgary, Canada

I agree with Benjamin Franklin who once said "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." I think that a better UN system needs to be in place to reflect the new realities of this time vs 1945 realities.

Chris, Miami, USA

Mr. Randleman's view that "the world hates the US because by GOD's grace we have saved every country on this planet at least once" flies in the face of reason and emotion. Why would they hate us for saving them? They do not. Many of their citizens are concerned that the US has become a dangerous, violent, mass murdering (over 600,000 dead Iraqi CIVILIANS) irrational superpower, completely un-concerned with international (and domestic) law. If the present administration invades Iran, expect our dollar to be dumped and interest rates to soar. It's the only weapon the world has to counter our madness.

Don Anderson, Santa Rosa, USA/California

"I would like to remind all of you American bashers that with out US intervention in WWII the world would be speaking German and Japanese today..."

Yawn...step in to this millennium dude.
Peace is the way for the enlightened to enlighten.

No one's saying the U.S. doesn't need a strong military...
But it also needs enlightened people to know how and when to properly use it to make the world a better place, as in WWII...
NOT as in Iraq '03 ('04, '05, '06. '07, yawn...)

Joe, Farmington, MN.

Oceania has ALWAYS been at war with Eastasia.

Here in Airstrip One, we get to launch the flyovers...

Jeremiah Cornelius, Ladbroke Grove, London, UK

The americans commenting here have a hollywod view of history. The UK had to give up the far east in WWII to ensure it could hold on to its home ground.
Be very careful to get your facts right and take care who you insult as you dont have that many friends!

Richard, England, England

Doug - Firstly, 25 million Russians died fighting the Nazis during WW2, and it was this sacrifice that won the 20th century's most decisive battle against tyranny. The United States also sacrificed 418,000 of its soldiers in allegiance with these brave Russian men, women and children. Please spare a thought for your noble ancestors with whom they stood shoulder to shoulder and fought. You urge those naive UK writers to "Pick up a history of the twentieth century for God' s sake" and assume that this will confirm your assertion that "Russia has never shed blood or treasure on behalf of anyone but themselves". Try reading Beevor's "Stalingrad" to understand how the UK owes its current liberty and independence as much to the old USSR as the new USA. Secondly, the article above is about India and China (not "European socialists") forming an alliance with Russia. Are the Asians also "socialists who hate America"? Sounds to me like the only sane folks live in Oregon.

Steve, London, UK

"Tucked tail and ran" hardly seems accurate and has not been supported by any of the history books but perhaps I am reading the wrong ones Mr Randleman? Simply because the US managed to run the last leg of a war marathon lasting over 5 years do not mean they deserve 100% of the credit. It was the allies who won this war Mr Randleman and it was many of their soldiers lives that were lost before the US even decided that it was time to jump off of the fence. Like all super powers of the past the power of the US will one day diminish and it is because of this fact that negotiations such as those mentioned in the article should be promoted and continued. The increasing rate of globalisation will and should continue. It is only through co-operation that the nations of the world will acheieve any sort of peace and prosperity.

David Iredale, Warrington, Britain

This is just so all larry randleman in the world realise that the world would never be the safe haven we all want as long as america continues to ride roughshod over the rest of the world , this will be a better world if there are 2 nay 3 superpowers, and please kick out the notion that america came to the world war to save europe or the rest of the world from german/japanese domination, rather the entry of the us after many months of sitting on the fence was to save their own asses or japan would have taken over the white house. the real savoiurs of the ww2 are the russians and the brits, so randleman read genuine history books not american propaganda texts

THOMAS OLUWASINA, london, uk

Let it be known that Larry R. of NC, USA does not speak for the majority of America. While it may seem that his is the popular view of U.S. citizens, it simply because his camp is more vocal and reactionary than the mainstream.

Our mid-term elections proved to be a mandate against our President's arrogant and dispicable foreign policy. We do not support his view that we are "chosen" and that Might equals Right.

On behalf of the American people, I apologize to the Nations of the world who are victims of this administration's foreign policy.

Jim C, Boston, USA

Hopefully, this triad of world powers, India, China, Russia, will put an end to the USA- Israel versus the world (or whomever gets in their way) attitude that is further isolating these two proud countries from the rest of the world. For examples of the aforementioned, see Jimmy Carter's new courageous book, Palestine Peace Not Apartheid, or just turn on BBC.

Chris, Miami, USA

China, India, Russia are all lost causes. India with its built in racism/ castism/ corruption, china with its totalitarianism/ corruption/ inhumanity, russia with its corruption/ lawlessness/ disorder. Those countries while claiming some power today will be hard pressed when their populations start aging and dying off to keep up or grow their power base. Canada, Australia, Singapore and especially the US should serve as inspiration for the rest of the world on how countries ought to behave inside and out. The UK is being eaten alive internally by the terrorist supporters, left wingers and multicultists.

Kave Singh, Toronto, Canada

Brisa, if it's so bad here, please move to China, Russia, or India, and enjoy their versions of a more democratic society.

Peter, Queens, USA

So much fun being lectured by the bloody british whose hands are still bloody from raping the rest of the world for several hundred years.

steve hotho, Hot Springs, usa

I think the point is that the US is now being seen as no better than Russia, China or India. As for 'ungrateful nations' (Mike , San Diego) Russia lost more people in WWII than anybody (and turned the tide at Kursk & Stalingrad before the Normandy landings). As for Jonathan (Washington), you may not have asked for anything in return but it still took the UK until 2006 to pay off the debt to the U.S. we accrued fighting the Nazis.

Paul, Preston, Lancashire

Some commentators on this article seem to assume that America and the west have a moral highground which gives them the right to dominate the rest of the world. It is perfecty natural for China, Russia & India to join together against what they perceive as American imperialism. It is equally natural for America to wish to force its influence on the rest of the world, as great powers have since civilisation began. Of course China, Russia & India are big polluters and violators of human rights. So, it can be argued, is the USA and Britain. The idea that countries like Russia somehow owe the US a favour due to a war 50 years ago is ridiculous and dangerous. You cannot define a countries political policies in moral terms. World leaders will always do what they perceive is best for their country and themselves, moral considerations are always secondary. We need to get away from unhelpful morally superior rhetoric and go forward with our eyes open.

Rob K, Norwich , UK

To Jeff of Seattle: what are Marxism, Socialism and Communism other than Western philosophies, and for that matter what is National Socialism?

Toby, Sheffield, UK

americans are so proud of saying that they have given aid to every country, but that aid came with strings. the rest of the world is not jealous of our freedom, they are angry that our aid propped up US puppet dictators, like Saddam Hussein, the Shah of Iran, and overthrew democratically elected leaders like in Iran, Chile and trained terrorists in Georgia to keep the people of Latin America oppressed. The double standards of the US, "saving" Europe, and sponsoring the occupation of Palestine while figting the occupation of oil rich Kuwait are why the world stands against the US now. Islamic fanatacism is less frightening that US foreign policy. THAT is why the world is joining together to stop the US, not because they are evil or jealous. our aid enslaves, our policies destroy hope of freedom and democracy

Lee, Chico, California

After reading the comments posted above, I am truly embarassed to be associated with the term "American." Who ARE these people?!?! (sigh) I love my country, but being critical of its government & those who run it does not exclude me from being a "patriot." Perhaps this has been bantied about too much as of late, but truth is truth, no matter how much you "spin" it. Benjamin Franklin once said "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." I would have that tattooed backwards on some of these dolts' foreheads so that everytime they looked in the mirror they'd have to read those words......sometimes I honestly do tremble at the genepool we have here..........can I get a lifeguard anyone?!?!?

Thomas Sommerfield, Detroit, Michigan/USA

Mr. Bush will not allow anyone to rain on HIS parade. His thurst for power is obvious looking at the way he treats the US house of representatives with no respect for thier veiws. They seem to have a world view for some kind of peace while Mr Bush continues to seek out war to fuel the coffers of the machine.
To see these powers meet and actually get along is a boost for the planet. Perhaps when Mr Bush is finally out of office (assuming there will still be a planet when he is done) the new president will talk for peace and world issues rather than money. I look forward to more information from these leaders, especially their views on Hamas, Israel, Africa and of course reeling in the US before they totally destroy our world.

C. Douglas, Ottawa, Canada

Oh dear, Keith and Pat show just how slight most Yanks' knowledge of the outside world and history really is.

Pat, Russia China and India fought on the same side as the Allies in WW2. During World War II the Indian Army became the largest all-volunteer force in history - over 2.5 million men.

I wonder if you realise that the US only entered WW2 halfway through and long after India and Russia and only a day before China officially became one of the Allies?

Keith refugees and asylum seekers pour into many other nations including in 'row boats'.

Martin, London, UK

India never been too close with China or Russia after Indo-China war. India is slowly inclining towards US as well as satisfying their neighbours and not US to have upper hand in Asia by means of INDIA.

Badri, Munich, Germany

I am utterly amazed at the naïveté of some UK writers. Russia with it's brand new and updated nuclear warheads and accompanying brand new ICBMs is controlled by an unreformed communist who dreams of new Soviet glory. The US has not updated a single missile or warhead category in over 20 years. But the US which has shed a lot of blood on behalf of Europe is seen as a greater threat than Russia which has never shed it's blood or treasure on behalf of anyone but themselves. Add to this the once and future USSR's total occupation and domination of Eastern Europe and it's 50 year attempt at doing the same to Western Europe (prevented by the US and ONLY the US) and UK/European sympathy for the Russian agenda borders on the insane. Do you all put on headphones at bedtime so as to absorb the lies and half-truths of European socialists who hate America for standing in the way of a total "workers paradise"? Pick up a history of the 20th century, for God's sake.

Doug Wargo, Portland,, Oregon

Like many Brits I may not agree with the George Bush adminstration's view of the world but it is infinitely preferable to that of Russia and China with their records on human rights. China seems quite happy to cosy up with some grim African regimes and being a Chechen doesn't seem to offer much.

Muslims should remember that it was the west who intervened in Yugoslavia to save muslim lives - the thanks for that was 9/11 and the London and Madrid bombs.

When it comes to world super powers I think Europe and North America is where the future lies. Let's face it east european countries have been quick to join the EC and NATO.

Richard, Northumberland,

Whilst true that India has been substancially more indoctrinated by Wester thought, It is important to point out that being a colony of the British led to their direct impoverishment and decline. The Indians owe nothing to the western world. Having exported anything of value to their own lands in the past, the british today ought to realize that India has been forgiving and still maintains good relations with her western counterparts. India maintains excellent relations with Russia simply because they've never had any disagreements and have always been staunch allies. Whilst India and China have their differences, they recognize the importance of their common borders for trade and growth and would rather improve realtions with each other than with countries a far way off.

Dwayne Anger, Bombay, India

I would like to remind all of you American bashers that with out US intervention in WWII the world would be speaking German and Japanese today. US lend lease and the US navy saved the Russians by the material we delivered. The same for Britian and France. Until Pearl Harbor Japan owned and controlled all of the Pacific. Thr Brits had already tucked tail and ran. Yes Russia supplied 146 divisions, just goes to prove it takes 5 to equal one American. Bottom line the world hates the US because by GOD's grace we have saved every country on this planet at least once. Britian numerous times. Read the history books

Larry, Randleman, USA North Carolina

The war on terror and the invasion of Iraq without UN approval has led a lot of countries to be wary of the US. The expansion of NATO to include former Warsaw Pact countries has rattled Russia. The US backing of Taiwan has had the same effect on China and in the case of India, she has been a long standing friend of Russia who supported her when the US supported and armed Pakistan
and two wars were fought during the Cold War period. These 3 countries are telling America don't expect us to support you should you attack Iran and don't expect us to support sanctions when we need Iranian oil and gas for our expanding economies. The Eastern Bloc is no more, so what is the need of NATO other than its members to wield a big stick in world affairs. America should use diplomacy and the UN to solve problems facing the world and not threaten.

Robert Sebastian, ASH VALE, England

It seems that some of the US commentors seem to be suffering from some kind of guilt complex here. Scare-mongering headline aside, if you actually bother to read the story there is no real mention of any threat to the US, only a threat to US dominance, which, lets face it cannot be a bad thing. Bring on the multipolar world...

Andy, London, UK

Oh dear, Keith and Pat show just how slight most Yanks' knowledge of the outside world and history really is.

Pat, Russia China and India fought on the same side as the Allies in WW2. During World War II the Indian Army became the largest all-volunteer force in history - over 2.5 million men.

I wonder if you realise that the US only entered WW2 halfway through and long after India and Russia and only a day before China officially became one of the Allies?

Keith refugees and asylum seekers pour into many other nations including in 'row boats'.

Martin, London, UK

India will hesitate to challenge USA in whole as her economy is fuelled/dependent on US. When it comes to choose Russi-China or USA , India would NOT definitely go against USA.

Badri, Chennai, India

Allies: two countries whose hands are so deeply in each other's pockets they lack the time and energy to despoil a third
(Ambrose Bierce: The Devil's Dictionary)

Philip Morris, London, UK

Alternatives to Israel Iranian discord

Admit Israel and Iran as permanent members to the security council. Have Israel sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and allow tight inspections. It would seem reasonable then for Iran to comply with such measures. Extend a hugh economic package to both Israel and Iran; so large that no Iranian nor Israeli could turn it down. Use the Egyptian Israel accord as a model in part. Include water as an instrument of foreign policy. Water from the Great Lakes for Israel and Gaza; and water from Siberian Arctic rivers to Iran and the Persian Gulf countries. Global warming allows access to such Arctic inflowing rivers by Russia. Also all nuclear technology and weapons, as well as all civilian wastes, would be deposited in a South Pacific site at 15000 feet depth. Hence Israel and Iran would serve as an example, leading the Northern Hemisphere in disposing of all nuclear breeder cores, weapons, and civilian wastes in such site. So do we hear the Middle East singing, or have the stones turned silent?

zankaon, zanville,

Absolutely amazing. One article which presupposes that the gathering of India/China/Russia is anti-America and the bile starts to pour out of every crevice of human society. In one swift move India is as communist as China, as belligerent as Russia and China as democratic as India. Not one respondent has stopped to question what is the truth behind the article or are we purely reacting to spin here? Today when US/Europe(trio)/India/Japan/China/S Korea/Australia/Russia are overcoming their old differences to work together on scientific, economic and social progression and to form a new world order of mutual reliance, no one needs participants like respondents here in that new future. Has any one bothered to ask why do we need a polar (uni or multi) world? Why do we assume the guy next door is some how lesser than I am? Finally, when intellect and common aspirations should drive us all humans prejudice seems to be the driving factor? Grow up and learn to look beyond your prejudice.

Prabhat, UK,

Mocking Russia as a nation without democracy is all too well until we remind ourselves that western democracy formed an alliance with Stalin's Soviet during WWII. What's more it was the Soviets who actually brought down the Nazis- a fact lost on all the Hollywood WWII movies which show only the American GI's rescuing the Europeans!!. As for the democracy in USA- we all saw live what happened in 2000 elections in Florida! And US's diplomatic credentials- killing and gassing Vietnamese in 70's, supporting Iraq (Saddam) during Iraq-Iran war in early 80's, giving money and ammunition to Mujaheedin in Afghanistan in late 70's, supporting Pinochet in Chile and the list goes on....

Dash, London, UK

These countries should take a good long look at themselves before annointing the US as something that's wrong in the world. Their lack of certain freedoms combined with human rights abuses is something the media tends to look right past.

Nick, Omaha, NE

While Russia, China, and India profess to disapprove of Iran's nuclear ambitions, their actions more loudly proclaim that they would tolerate a nuclear Iran as long as they get the oil they want. This is not evil on their part, they are merely looking out for their own national interests, as they should. And make no mistake, if any of them were capable of achieving the global prominence of America that they collectively disparage, they wouldn't hesitate to do so.
America is successful because it wins in the marketplace of ideas. If you had to choose between emigrating to America or any of these other three, which would you pick?

Jay Inman, Houston, Texas, USA

Meanwhile, Leftists like you sit back and watch your country and other European countries slowly turn into Sharia states. Once you're finally under Muslim rule, will you then say it's time to do something?

Ian, New York, New York

American readers must stop being so paranoid - we don't hate America but we don't agree with every aspect of American foreign policy. Cynics would say that in recent times America gets involved when it is of strategic importance to itself, others who are less cynical would say that America works hard to uphold the virtues of freedom and democracy. Most people are somewhere in between. We both want democracy to flourish, but Americans tend to go in guns blazing whilst we would probably want to give diplomacy a bit more of a chance. Only in retrospect can one judge what was the right or wrong attitude in any given situation.

Bottom line, for all it's faults, I would rather be with the US than against it.

Sonny, London,

I don't know what the hell is going on in the world anymore..

Robert, Spokane, USA

Anyone notice Phil's comment aboout India, "Although poor too, only India has the appearance/ability of a stable society that may naturally cope with the demands of the 21st century."?.....Particularly insightful - India is the only country of the three infused with a legacy of Western thought, culture, and politics, courtesy of the late great British Empire. Though by no means perfect, Western attributes have accomplished more in the advancement of people throughout the world than Marxism, Socialism, Communism, or any other totalitarian philosophy one would care to name.

Jeff Connors, Seattle, Washington

The United States has shed its precious blood and spent its treasure to save and preserve every major country that is railing against it. This is the sorriest reality of the hypocracy of these countries that exists in the modern world. Rather, join with America to bring about peace and prosperity and help destroy the islamic fanaticism that has attacked the whole world.

Kirk Terry, Yes, USA

IF these three would have the guts to push the U.N. to take action, then, the U.S. would not have to fix all the problems of the world. Who came to the aid of the U.S. after 9/11? No one. Not even the briish. Who looks the other way when confronted by terrorists? Everyone except Bush. Thank you Mr. Bush .

R.K.Hall, Los Angeles, CA

Bring it on. We love challenges to our policies (if you can even call this a challenge)

Dave, Charlotte, NC

You European pacificists have never learned from history and feel problems will go away if you bury your head in the sand. The worldwide socialists are blind to the problems at hand and hate the US out of jeolousy instead of any real substance. The US has helped more people worldwide than any other country in the world. Whenever there is a problem, who do they turn too? Whether it is aid to Europe after WWII, aid to Russia after the Cold War, aid to Africa and the third world, AIDS relief world wide, tsunami relief, and on and on and on. So stoping these "evil US neocons" will be better for everybody?

Robert Heckman, Houston, USA

This all makes you think, why as americans do we feel we have the best intrests for the rest of the world in our international policy? I believe most of the problems occuring in the world hit the USA so hard because we need to have control, but nobody seems to care about control within our country. Poverty is at an all time high, humanity is at an all time low, the economy is is failing and the almighty USA seems to be dwarfed by europe and asia. Maybe we should stop concentrating on running the world and begin to make some healthy alliances. I dont know about the rest of americans but the last thing i want to do is enter into a world protection fight with two of the biggest super powers in the world, china and russia. May god help us in the future!

Vincent Piazza, Long Island, New York

More American drivel. American is still a spoilt vane teenager preening itself and forcing its will all over the world either blatantly or behind everyones back. Iraq was and still is a farce, and if we are talking previous troubles, I beleive both Iraq and Afghanistan were allies of America?
The US has not built freedom, it has merely smoothered out any attempts otheriwse to further its own goals. As for America saving Europe, where would Europe be without the 146+ divisions Russia sent to battle Hitler (no where near as many as the US and Allies together.. )
Please take a look at reality instead of hiding in your dreamland at the expense of others, there is more to the world than just the USA and the sandpit has to be shared...

Darren, London, UK

This should be a surprise to no one. The US can not swagger and brag about its 'supremacy’ and not expect others to take notice and action. Perhaps if the Bush administration had chosen to speak more diplomatically while it acted decisively we could have bought more international goodwill and delayed major foreign power-blocs from lining up against us until we were better prepared to deal with them. If only someone in the White House had ever heard that great Republican phrase “walk softly but carry a big stick…”

B. Monroe, Keyport, NJ, USA

I am very glad to see that other powers are taking a stand. World politics should not revolve around one main power. Global politics were more balanced even during the cold war because of the power struggle between West and East, of course those were scary times and no-one wishes for that again. But if we have several equally heavyweight powers such as US in one corner, europe in another and Russia, India and China it will create a more balanced world. Too many countries and too many people are very scared that the US wants to take over the world and that can only lead to disaster

Judith, Berkshire, UK

It's funny that on the one hand the world fears our strength and tries to limit us whenever possible, and on the other hand they are the first to look for aid when threatened. I think most people should worry about themselves and correct their own mistakes rather than being so obsessed with what goes on in th US...its very frustrating. I do realize that it's not easy when you lead the world on every front. Everyone is always looking to knock you down. Btw, there's a reason why people risk their very lives on row boats everyday to get to our shores..they're not really doing that anywhere else. think about it...

Keith , New York, USA

To Ryan, yes, let the healing process begin with Hillary as your candidate. Hooray continued polarization!

It would be great to have another source of deep pockets for the world et al to have their hands out for. Sovindichina money machine sounds great to me.

thomas, medfield, ma

I wonder what else we could all collectively blame on Bush. It seems he is responsible for all the worlds problems because as one writer would put it, we will have to wait until Jan 2009 before we can begin the healing process. Perhaps then, Iran and North Korea will give up nuclear tech and the world will be a happy place once again. Because, we all know that when Bush wasn't in charge, everything was peachy, there were no problems. Get a life people!

Ryan, US, US

Ryan, Dallas

Americans have nothing for which to apologize.

The total stonewalling perpatrated by the Democrats has made us appear weak. Your comments do the same.

A Democrat in the White House won't change any perceptions.

China needs future oil, India needs someone to bring it out of the stone age and Putin needs to deflect opinion onto to someone most Russians don't like-the US.

I would worry more about the EU than China, India and Russia. The EU is out to bring down the US, with your help.

James Troscinski, Grosse Pointe Park, USA

The Bible prophecies of a war that will kill 1/3 of the earth's population. this war will begin from an army of 200 million. The only country that can man that size of an army is China. Rev. 9:13-21. Four bound angels are released from the river euphrates, which, not coincidentally runs through Iraq. 5th trumpet king over them in arabic is the same. Sadamn. The third trumpet is chernobyl nuc disaster, Wormworm in Ukraine is chern.
The need is to repent of sin and believe on Jesus Christ.

Dru Lacy, Itasca , usa

Ah, yes, the icons of capitalism and humanitarianism have banded together for "international harmony and understanding". Russia = irrelevant. China = Communist society that has yet to surpass 1960s technologies. India = yes, the caste system survives.

Who cares? Do you think any developed nation is going to jump on that bandwagon??? Sure, let's saddle up for the trip to failure and oppression.

Oh, and George has a degree from Harvard, John. If he's an idiot, you just insulted a lot of people who also worked very hard for that achievement. Liberals are intellectually lazy; if they can't debate an issue, they resort to the race card or personal attacks. His public speaking is poor, but the guy has made brilliant moves with taxes and the war on terror. You just need to invest a little thought and see past the 15-second soundbites on CNN in between your reality shows.

He HAS really dropped the ball on the southern border, though...

CWB, Phoenix, AZ

Judging by the preceding comments, I very much doubt that this one will be selected, but I will try anyway. I wouldn't worry about this. These countries never get along for very long. Soon this Neocon thing will come to it's conclusion, whatever that will be and they will start bickering amongst themselves.

To be honest, I'm far more afraid of people like you. You Christians can be really scary, and I'm a white middle class American. Please stop trying to overthrow the government. I like this country, at least I used to until you folks started really winding up this coup thing about 12 years ago. This never was a Christian country. In fact many of the early European settlers were running away from Christian pursecution, the rest being slave, Indian, or endentured. The seperation of church and state is there just because people were afraid of churches. Think about it. If any of you do manage to take over, you'll just end of fighting amongst yourselves.

Mark, Camarillo, CA

People who say that Bush is divisive should see the effect that he is having on the rest of the world! Think about it-in 2003, Russia, France, and Germany-once mortal enemies-presented a united front against the idiotic Iraq War.

Now, in 2007, Russia and China, who Tom Clancy would have us to believe are mortal enemies (this was true back in the 1960s), and India and China (who have a long-running border dispute) are uniting against the unbelievable arrogance of the current President. Yes, Bush is a uniter.

Drew Bowers, Tuscaloosa, USA, Alabama

Talk is cheap. The next time there is an earthquake anywhere in the world, or an aggressor similar to Nazi Germany is at your door, try depending on Russia, China, or India coming to your rescue. Good luck!

Pat Moran, Houston, USA/Texas

Mr. Kevin Sullivan, we will remind you of your comments when you are bowing down to your Islamist masters as the dhimmi that you appear to be. We shall not bow down to them. As President Bush said after 9/11, we will address all state sponsors of terrorism, as Iraq was, in due time.

Proud the President is from Texas!

JK, Dallas,

This is in response to a selected president of the United States who thinks he is above the law, above the Constitution and is governing our country as if he is a Dictator. And along with him, we have a selected vice president who is a tyrant, who has broken the law, violated our Constitution, and evidence has come forward that he has made impeachable offenses, yet Congress has not moved to remove him from office. These two figures are a threat to our national security and have caused our standing in the World to deteriorate. This is unacceptable and the American People and Congress must act immediately before all of our lives are in danger. We have both a selected president and vice president who are unfit to serve as such. They must be impeached immediately. The media needs to do their job; they work for the American People, not for the president or the vice president.

j-m, Los Angeles, California, USA

the Bush/neocon administration has proven that 'power corrupts and, absolute power corrupts absolutely' Any alliance that acts as a counter balance to the strategy of this administration and US global strategy in general must be welcome, and, will lay down a marker that it cannot continue to act with impunity.

Kevin Sullivan, London, London

A multipolar world during cold war times created much misery in the less developed world. Unilateralism is not the answer but it is unfair to blame the United States solely for the state of the world. Lets us not forget that India, China and Russia support many of the worlds worst regimes in the name of energy security and open markets. They do so through continued trade, arms sales and UN veto. I can envision no possible scenario in which the world would be better off being lead by countries that care little about democracy (exclude India), human rights or global climate change. It is important to remember that great partnerships do not always move in lock step but lasting friendships are built upon mutual history and shared sacrifice. The US and Europe have much to gain by working together towards a truly equitable and fair world. The Iraq war was based upon false assumptions but the underlining motives were pure. To give the Iraqis life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Even Walser, San Francisco, CA

u.s.a. rules - doesn't matter if you like it or don't like it. we have advanced weapons in place that you know nothing about. the world is totally dependent upon the u.s.a.'s economy. when a deep recession hits the u.s.a. and it will, (markets are cyclical), the economies of russia, india and china will be devastated.

joe, chicago, u.s.a.

I'm not afraid... Most of what these countries offer is cheap labor and an abundance of natural resources.

China/India-cheap labor alway equates to eventual wage increase and less reasons to produce goods in the country to ship back to US. (Look at Japan)

Russia-Going backwards away from capitalism and full of coruption. (Look at how they nationalized some foreign oil companies)

mike, omaha, ne

It is interesting indeed to read the jingoistic rants of the delusional supporters of the Bush/Cheney cabal. To those individuals, I would suggest that you realize that America's continued economic dominance is predicated upon a steady inflow of cheap energy and capital. Both of which are drying up. The US, as it has been, is coming to an end. We have no energy, manufacture nothing but weapon systems, save no money, export mountains of debt and can't resist editing our own Constitution. Sure seems like the definition of a Banana Republic to me.

While both political parties share responsibility for the decline of America to which we are all witnesses, the current administration has accelerated the process dramatically. Stand up for yourself and for what is right and just. The politicians care only for themselves and their sources of campaign cash. A government predicated on lies and mendacity will not stand.

brisa, Galena, IL USA

The US once upon a time spoke softly but carried a big stick. A quiet menace, with moral authority which was very effective at keeping other countrees in check.

The last five years, George W has thrown this away. Its a pity that Dubya's shrill supporters on this forum don't recognise the damage that he has done to the US's strateguc interests:

1) Bringing its opponents together in solidarity (as above).
2) Shown itself to be an empty threat with a bark lounder than its bite (N. Korea).
3) And losing its moral authority to be a true leader for the free world. (Guantanamo, Iraq, Abu Ghraib, Palestine etc.)

Punit, London, UK

I'm not too happy about my country's current foreign policy. But to read that these three ungrateful nations are ganging up on us makes me angry. Russia and China wouldn't even be around had we not rescued them from Germany and Japan during WW2. And we should never forget how India sided with the USSR during the cold war. To think that the only reason that China and India are experiencing such economic growth is as a result of importing all their junk into the U.S. and because of "American" companies exporting our jobs.
All we need is for the average American to realise how we are loosing our place in the world, and how these nations are planning to take us over, not militarily but economically. Only when we realise this and decide to buy products made in the U.S. or by one of our allies, or by any nation within our hemisphere and only then will we be able to save our nation.

Mike, San Diego, USA

Yes international policies, please run our country, especially china, india, and russia, we need your unique talents such as india's poverty, famine and overpopulation; China's disease control, communism, and cheap labor, and especially Russia's supreme soviet socialism, and wonderful economic contributions. Im pretty sure we would all like to run America our way, but is our way necessarily the best way. I would like to see any of you run America and handle the conflicts any better. Im not saying Bush is our best fearless leader, but perhaps he and his "cronies" might know something we dont, dont let other countries push us around, and honestly "international community" go ahead and hold it against us, because obviously you know whats good for America. If you did im pretty sure China wouldnt have so much over population, indias ganges river would be cleaner, and russia wouldnt have a nuclear meltdown. America stop complaining like babies.

george, new york, usa

Pleased to hear that India, Russia and China are interested in building a more democratic "multi-polar world."

Perhaps they should set the UK and the US a good example and start in Chechnya and Tibet, just to show the rest of the world that they really mean it.

The war in Iraq is a disaster for Iraqis, of which my country and the US should be ashamed . But is it any worse than Russian involvement in Chechnya (including the murder of dissident journalists) ? And is it on a par with the cultural and ethnic genocide of China in Tibet? Last estimates show 2 million Tibetans have died as a result of the Chinese 'liberation' of Tibet.

Who is joshing who here?

John Holmes, London, U,K.

Its unreal how many anti-Americans there are right in our own country. I am in favor of pulling out of all foreigh countries right now, stopping the flow of cash to all of them and then begin the arduous process of finding and weeding out you traitors.

Gary, Ash Springs, Maryland

Let us not forget about the “elephant in the room” when it comes to the US foreign policy. Why dance around and call Bush’s handlers neocons, call a spade a spade, the US is completely dominated by Israel.

Matt Linzbach, Merrifield, MN, USA

The U.S. is the champion for freedom and democracry around the world. No other nation has sacrificed as many of its own lives and given of its own resources without asking for anything in return than the U.S. Of all peoples, the Europeans should know and be thankful for that. Given the repressive and bloody histories of the Chinese and the Russians, who have murdered countless millions of their own people for differing viewpoints, I wouldn't be cheering for them at this stage.

Jonathan Parks, washington, DC, USA/DC

Yeah, right. Let's pull our U.S. dollars from their countries and just watch them change their tune. Or better yet, let's pull our foreign aid from ALL countries and let those three pick up the slack. And to hear these three talk about democracies, is just a joke. When they become democracies, then they can spout off about it. As for those three advocating the U.N., why shouldn't they? The U.N. has been ineffective in curbing any of the human rights abuses in their countries. So, they know that the U.N. wouldn't be able to stop anything that they choose to do.

jeri, sykesville, Maryland

Lets see, India Russia, China are tolerant of muslims in their own countries -NOT! They are helping resolve the Tibet issue-NOT! They are against the dictatorship/opression in Pakistan/SaudiArabia/Burma -NOT! They opposed the opressive rule of the Taliban-NOT!

Its easy to blame the US, but show me one instance where any of these countries have stepped up thier game to provide world leadership.

Safi Ali Khan, Houston, USA

As a conservative American and a strong Bush supporter, I say the rest of the world be damned. When the new crowd in Washington picks up our marbles and goes home; who's going to keep a lid on the chaos. Europe? Russia? India? China? You all know the answer to that.

American isolationism is on the rise and the rest of the world will strongly regret it. Don't come looking for us the next time a Bosnia, Kosovo, or whatever occurs. You deal with it.

Vince Hill, Springfield, PA, USA

Let's give them what they want. We don't need them and they don't need us. Let's take all the foreign aid money and spend it on us. Imagine no homeless people, social security would be fixed, healthcare would be a problem, and we can invest in other forms of energy.

They don't want us and we could use our money at home, instead of buying friends who stab us in the back. Just think what we could do with all the billions we spend overseas!

Jerry, Washinton , DC

Based on the comments I've read from my fellow Amurkans, our corporate-run media has certainly done its job. Most of the people in this country continue to believe that WE're the good guys! It boggles the mind! It would be funny if so many people worldwide weren't suffering because of our willful ignorance.

Kellie F, Tulsa, OK

I think it would be good if all people would be so welfare as the US or EU citizens. But the US or EU don't want this happen, because such trend deprives them to be number 1. It's arrogance and haughtiness moves by them. But developed countries should know that disbalanse or inequal situation cannot be going longer on. We see how arrogant USA are doing in Irac, where they take into account just killed 3000 US soldiers, without mentioning 100 fold victims in local population, 5 millions of refugees. And without a shame they put themselves a right to accuse muslims that they are terrorists.

uran, Itakura, Japan

I would like to apologize for the oh so common "You would all be speaking German" comment made by one of my fellow Americans. Basically, competition is a good thing. It will inspire creativity, stabalize economies, and a more stable consumer environment. I do believe that China, India, and Russia have great potential to compete with the US, however problems within their own governments and the low incomes of their populations would hinder their advancement to world dominance. However, the EU, after it works out some of its problems, could be and is a major competitor for the US. I believe that my country has done well since the end of the cold war, but our current administration has created a world wide contempt for the US. After we become the America that we once were we will have a chance to win back the world's approval. Once again I apologize for my countrymen, do not let their bible thumping conservatism cloud your view of all Americans. Not all of us our insane cowboys.

Ryan, Sacramento, USA, California

As an American, seeing the harm we have caused (think Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, El Salvador, Nicaragua, just for starters) I am glad to see an answer to the hegemony. And for all of you chest beating 'we gave the world the world' uberpatrots, I encourage you to read more. Not USA Today prepacked news, but what is becoming more and more accessible via the internet. You have no excuse, as it appears you already have figured out how to hit the Explorer icon.

Your children deserve better informed parents.

dan ports, Pittsburgh, PA

Oh please, please don't believe that most Americans think as Mr. Rutherford. (A prosperity that the governments of Europe can't provide for their people??? Europe, has some of the most prosperous countries in the world, where the government is entirely capable of providing for its citizens.) It's amazing that someone who has obviously gone out of their way to read a foreign paper could be so utterly ignorant.

I agree with Frank, from Halifax. The world would benefit greatly from more powers coming to the table, so to speak. Furthermore, the U.S. isn't going to be the most powerful country forever. All countries have a rise and a fall.

Liz, colorado, U.S.

The problem is that America doesn't see anyone more powerful than she. I think that would shake alot of american citizens to the core if other countries, especially ones non-white where to talk down to us and consider us a jr. in everything. I think by the way Russia, China and India are putting there nose into everything dealing in natural resources and military might shows that they know American dominance in the world is waining.
They know are economy is going to burst with our fiscal responsibility going out the window. We are the biggest debtor nation in the world now, and it' s just a matter of time until the dollar implodes and we do see what happens with the US.

Buck Johnson, Columbus , USA

to travers rutherford:
You have no idea what you are talking about. You say US dominance is here to stay....nothing lasts forever! as the US has lost its dominance in the world to both China and russia.....wake up dude!

Dan, chicago, IL

its about time that these countries got together,they can show us how 3 extremely large nuculear nations can lead the world peacefully and without war,unlike the us ,israel,uk and other nations.wake up to yourselves america,its not about oil its about the $$$$$.google iranian oil bourse and read for yourseleves why america and its allies are in the middle east.one other thing for boston michael,every time the USA intervenes it seems to cause untold amounts of suffering &death to the people they are apparantley trying to save.it has noth ing to do with the $$$$$$.god help iran &the rest of us.

cook, lismore, australia

Manny, I'm an Englishman now living in the US and since being here I've heard the kind of argument you make several times. It is only ever Americans who use their own imbalanced, imperialist notions to project on other nations. Iran is not interested in attacking anyone, neither is Russia, China or India. The only nation to have attacked anyone recenty is the US. 'Bail us out?' By Blair (whom one colleague here recenty thought was PM of Belgium) acting as puppy dog to the Zionist Neo-Cons here in the US, the UK is a far greater target and at far greater risk than at anytime in the past half century. I welcome the news that finally the rest of the world may be growing weary of the sheer arrogance and criminality of the United States government. The world will be a lot safer place with a greater balance of super-power.

Simon Harris, chicago, USA

Im from Canada. The war is for oil. Your government has been taken over by evil since JFK was assisinated. Yours is no longer the land of the free. Sure, you may have liberties, you can choose which station you want on TV or what burger you want from McDonalds. But you are slaves to your corporate controlled media and government.

And what's worse, the type of false democracy that you are spreading is destroying the Earth itself.

At this point I await your nuclear war.

(why is castro your enemy? Why is Ahmedinijad? Why is Chavez? because your newyork times has told you so.

Good and Evil are relative terms.

How many did Saddam kill? How many have died since the US invasion?

Andrew, Winnipeg,

G.W. Bush and the rest of the leadership must rembember these facts: True democracy evolves from within and from the bottom up; not from the top down and imposed at gunpoint. Second, democratic nations don't wage wars of aggression; despotic ones do. Also, another feature of a totalitarian nation is its outreach of domination worldwide through bullying and aggressive war. China, India and Russia have every right and reason for joining together to oppose US domination. This is a multipolar world; and, this is what it should be.

eileen kuch, hyattsville, md, USA

The U.S. government's foreign policy is often not in the best interest of the American people. The U.S government appears to frequetnly base it's policies on false assumptions or outright falsehoods to secure narrow goals that are often not in the national interest but in the interest of powerful and financially influential groups.

Nick, Madison, NY

I believe in George and his cronies...I don't, however, believe in any Liberal to act on behalf of our country in a positive way. Liberals do not like this country and all of them should be politely but firmly escorted to the border and asked to step across.

Jeff, San Francisco, Ca

For a quick lesson into why the rest of the world hates us, start off by reading a book called "Confessions of an Economic Hitman", written by a former NSA agent. All of you that think our country is a 'beacon of freedom in the world' will most likely realise that we are more likely regarded as "An economic opressor and a supporter of slavery to the world". Sure we have things good in our country and we have plenty of flashy gadgets and toys to preoccupy our meager existence, but at what cost to the rest of the world? Many of you have much to learn.

Bruce, Round Rock, Texas, USA

Diplomacy! Hah! You are right... Russia and China have a very good diplomatic record (ask the Polish, Czecks, Afghans and Taiwanese ...hehehehe)! Same with India (just ask Pakistan) and the folks in the Kashmir region. Unchecked the US has freed millions of people from tyranny of the ilk of these "Giants". The only time we fail is when we lose our will to fight evil.

How about killing people who want to kill you and your families - is that a valid reason - Mr Buffalo, New York?? That is called self defense. We fight because we have to - if not now, then later and if not there, then here. I wonder if Mr. Buffalo, New York would have been so bold as to condem Patrick Henry when he said "Give me liberty or give me death". But then again, Mr. Buffalo, New York probably doesn't believe there is anything worth dying for. I do - my God, my family and my country - and even Mr. Buffalo's right to whine in my country ....

JJ, Raleigh, NC

India, China and Russia are ranked right up there on the Freedom Index alongside such luminaries as Cambodia, Burkina Faso and Cameroon. Of course, the world should look to them to take up the sword of righteous indignation against the evil Satan. With a little more determined effort and the enthusiastic support of liberals, these three heroic nations can one day rise to the level of such a saintly state as Cuba - or maybe even North Korea. With the dedicated love and worship of liberals, anything is possible.

Vituperator, New Orleans, USA

Unfortunately too many Americans are acting like a bunch of fat and happy frogs in a pot of luke warm water and don't have a clue, nor want to know whats really happening in the world, especially in Iraq and Iran. The pot is about to boil and President Bush knows it. We should thank God we have a President who is willing to stand up and do what has to be done inspite of popular opinion. America, Its time to get our heads out of the sand and realize where we're headed.

Sam Stoltzfus, Lancaster, PA, USA

What a load.... Yes, such democratic powerhouses such as Russia and China are joining together for a more mutipolar world. One where inaction is the rallying call under the auspices of that paragon of competence the UN. Oh, and they are all for keeping Iran from having nukes... as long as they can continue to sell them the technology and materials to build nukes. If the Russians are so serious, why do they not call for UN help in Chechnya?

Wesley Canno, Denham Springs, LA

I'm sure Ryan in Dallas means well, but may not be able to get beyond deep-seated hate of his President. So, he forgot to comment on the article........

Nations forming coalitions is nothing new, and isn't necessarily, in fact isn't likely, a reaction to George Bush. It is good move for the nations involved. A coalition like this will carry a big stick, but whether such a diverse group can achieve meaningful solidarity is another thing.

W. C. Wood, New York, USA

My USA was established to be the, "City on the Hill," the, "City of God," as our ForeFathers envisioned. A Constitutuional Government/Nation, a citadel of Freedom.

What we have been witnessing is now an, "Empire," instead of Republico, and this Empire has been envisioned by those Neo-Cons finally stearing this nation to promote democracy a Wisonian idea that will not work in the long term.

We, as a nation, have lost our way, and need to come back to our senses as a nation.

John, Wilmington, DE

These are the last days of this form of society as has been prophecied by most cultures seers and Holymen and Women. There is to be a reconing and the dark lords will be no more. The lighted realms will increase and hold sway on this planet and the entire solar system. Those socalled UFOs we see more and more every day are here for a purpose. They have culture and history and that history includes our evolution and upliftment. They are helping us in the struggle in many ways not yet known.
Dont fear the reaper. They can only deprive you of a vehicle, of which we all have had many. The evil will pass and be no more forever. Fear feeds the dark ones and they delight to make you squirm at their manipulations. Laugh in their faces and demand that they retreat from your presence and they must. IF you fear them they have you in their power. Call on the Angels to protect you and it will be so. It wont be long now. The end is in sight. The birthing is upon us. Namaste

Ron, Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada

"Returns for investment"? You already got it, my friend. All the goods and services in the world for trillions of paper money called the US dollars shored up in banks which no one can buy anything meaningful with, except for oil, which is enforced by the US military to be denominated in US $.

Qwerty, Earth,

We Americans enjoy reminindg Europeans of history. Because we were triumphant after joining your brutal little wars decades ago we are forever superior in knowing what is best for you today. We don't quite understand why you don't simply believe that terrorists will only fight us in arab lands and that should we leave, they will then get the idea to plot against you at home. Oh yeah... next time a terrorist bomb blows up in London, we will have to share some of blame as we have a monopoly on the best practices for fighting "terrorists." Cheers.

Bruce Hoby, Rochester, MN

This is exactly why you will see America fall from power. We are so worried about the almighty dollar and executives from major corporations making 20+ million dollars a year is the norm. We are sending our jobs to India, China and in the mean time they are building alliances against us. I work for a very large company that offshores work to India and we have many security processes and control of our equipment in their hands. We don't care because it supposedly so much cheaper and the executives get to make more money and bonuses. They dont care about this country and only want to expand. When these alliances decide to act against us, we have no one to blame but our greedy executives. We are putting our technology and companies in the hands of other countries like India and China while these countries are building alliance militarily against us. WAKE UP!!!!!! Is there anything that can be done? I don't think so because money is the root of all evil and we are seeing the results of that.

Brian Walker, Madison/WI, United States

the problem is that there will always be vicious competition for dominance. media spin notwithstanding, in my view a pax americana is much more preferable to any other. can you imagine the world under chinese or russian global hegemony? i can, and i can tell you for a fact it would suck. the united states needs to continue to do everything it can to maintain the status quo. if that means destroying all who would dare challenge us, then so be it. violence is the univeral tongue, and it is the only language that is ever understood.man is inherently evil, vicious, bloodthirsty, and rapacious. if it isn't us it would be someone else, and probably alot worse. you people need to wake up to the truth.

gunga din, paterson,

We need all the help we can to stop the runaway Bush Express to Armageddon. Hopefully the world community, with China, India, and Russia taking the lead, will stand up to the threats and tantrums of the bully President. It seems that our Congress doesn't have the guts or political freedom to stop Bush & Cheney. The Israel Lobby will beat up on any politician in America that speaks about peace with Iran. The Israel Lobby was all too happy when the US destroyed Iraq. The NeoCons want to control the oil in the Middle East, but the Big Three are putting aside their historical differences to counter the military might of the US. Bush is serious about Iran. Two Carrier Battle Groups are already in the Persian Gulf and two more are being deployed. Think of how much it is costing the American people already fighting in Afghanistan for a natural gas pipeline, for oil in Iraq, and now attacks in Somalia. Now Iran is in their sights. Pray that the Big Three do say no before WWIII begins.

Dave in Jersey, Belleville, USA/NJ

Some of the comments here show just how out of touch Americans are with the way their country's foreign policy - and actions - are becoming loathed around the world. I'm a middle aged white Westerner, but having spent time in China I can attest that that country's social fabric and family values are superior to what normally passes for them the selfish West.

The USA contributes much that is good to the world - I remember being very moved by the sight of that Red Cross ship sailing into New York harbour after 9/11, considering how often it had sailed out filled with your generous donations for suffering people in other countries - BUT: you need to know that your increasingly belligerent and out of touch attitude in the wake of your Cold War 'victory' demands that other important countries, such as those named, must begin to make themselves heard.

Who knows? You might even learn something.

Gavin, Auckland, New Zealand

Having lived in the US the comments above are what you would expect from a country that knows little of history and the world we live in. How would your American revolution have gone if France wasn't there to help. Look at D-Day how many countries were involved and it wasn't launched from mainland USA. Your arrogrance doesn't even tell you that geography allowed you to stay safe during the world wars. And you still haven't come to terms with 911...a small bunch of terrorists attack the worlds greatest air defence and get 3 out of 4 targets. And the Iraq war another small country able to tie up the worlds most advanced military for years(Vietnam anyone). Its a sad day whenYou need countries like China,Russia and India to show you what diplomacy means. Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq show the US is not so great on its own.

keith Wilson, molendinar, australia

A multi-polar world is inevitable.

Alfred Bussian, Denver, US

your (US) aid?? you know what is your debt??

andy, mumbai, india

The descendants of Ghenkis Khan are now civilized businessmen. The US can't even whip the Iraqis whose army ran away. And the US dawdles instead of attacking the Persians. Perhaps Bush and his followers know what happenned when the Romans attacked the Persians. 700 years of war and Rome lost. So India, China and Russia can now focus on peaceful development instead of wasting their resources on war. Good for them. They are no threat to the US.

Charles, Colby, Kansas

Oh brother. Two of these three nations are totalitarians and are providing the weaponry to terrorist and totalitarian nation. Their interests are anything other than noble.

T jordan, Washington , dc

This is much bigger than domestic US politics. Leave that out of it. They don't like the new globalized western world that has been created since the end of the cold war. The US is the leader of this world order and they are looking to increase their influence by decreasing ours. Bush, Clinton, Bush I, and whomever is next from whichever party, it doesn't matter to them. They still want to change the world that the US and its western allies run. And trying to be all nice and sweet and giving them what they want in return for nothing is not going to make the world a safer place or your life as an American better off. This is global power politics. So react as an American, not as a donkey or an elephant.

Derrick, Arlington, VA

Actually, it is the result of having idiots for an electorate for at least a century. The United States grew from a nation to an empire during the 20th century. It has sent the marines to and meddled in the internal affairs countless other nations in order to secure the advantage of corporate interests. Meanwhile, the pride of a naive populace, growing increasingly illiterate with each generation, swells to the tune of patriotic demagoguery and the same nationalistic arrogance that has endeared cheering mobs to the like of Hitler, Stalin and Mao. Eventually, the rest of the world had to grow weary of the American arrogance. I have predicted this very thing for years now. No empire has escaped collapse. And when this one falls, it will not be pretty. It is not a day to which I look forward.

Alan H, Kentucky, USA

Russia, China, and India want to kill their goose that lays the golden egg. How much money has China made off of the US? Think Walmart. How much money has India made off of corporate outsourcing from US companies? How much Aid money has Russia received from the US since the fall of the iron curtain. Sounds like old Communists coming together. Make no mistake this is a reinsurgence of Communism. Their goal is to weaken the US. The US is marching down the same road as the Romans, Greeks, and Ottomans. Soon we will be just another Great "Empire" that imploded.

John, Columbus, Ohio

I believe that other nations have a duty to rally against the lone hegemonic powers. If the roles were reversed and the United States was not a power I'm sure be getting vocal with our concerns. And Ryan, I agree with your pleading to the rest of the world, less that 35% of Americans currently support Georges views and policies. Don't harbor bad feelings for US.

Greg, Laramie, WY

I thought George Bush and Vladamir Putin were buddies who didn't need things in writing because they shook hands like they do in Texas. I wonder if the next President will just shake hands with Putin.

Ed Bodensick, Easton, Md

Kevin,
The cold war was great, I can't wait for the emergence of the new Soviet Union(sarcasm). Look at Russia, no more freedom of the press and corporations being seized by the government. Also, they are arming Iran with Nuclear technology. If the US could truly act with impunity like you say, we would have already taken over the entire middle east. That would clean up the big mess the UK created after WW2. Better start familiarizing yourself with Sharia law. It will be in Europe before you know it.

Tom, Chicago, Il

Please, Please, Please, can we stop sending our men and women around the world helping out other countries. Can we also stop all foreign aid!!!! Imagine what our freeways, roads, and infrastructure would look like if we just worried about ourselves. I'm sick of listening to these other countries spew their hate for the U.S. Yet, they still whine if you ever mention cutting off the money that is sent to their countries. We should never help anyone in any situation. Just fend for yourself and stop whining!!! But remember, if you bring your hate and problems to our shores, we just might bring it back to you as well!!!

Steve, Redlands, CA

we're it not for the U.S. and the Christianity that exudes from this great nation, the world would live in great want and darkness. I see only pointed self-interests and dictatorial socialism as the motives for the China, Russia, and India summit. I'm in aggreement with you, Dan, and so aren't most people who are neither reading nor responding to this story.

Bill, west brooklyn, New York

Kevin, you must mean the global stategy that bailed your buns out during two world wars. Unreal!

OAL, Uptown, USA

I am no fan of the current american administration, still less so of the country's conduct in their 'proxy wars' around the world since the second world war. However to say that any alliance that threatens their dominance should be welcomed remains to be seen. Kevin, be careful what you wish for! America's power is waning, so we must try to ensure that a new stable and hopefully benign power structure emerges to replace it.

Alex Harvey, Bristol, UK

The history of the U.S. is just as bloody as all others (The Indians, civil war, etc.), in addition, in the U.S. 5% of the people control 95% of the wealth. You americans think that you know it all, you would do well to remeber that most other cultures on this planet existed thousands of years before yours. As history has taught us, ALL empires fall, and yours is starting to crumble. The rest of the world is sick of you attitudes and arrogance, and when your country does collapse you can be sure that there are many that will ensure that you pay for the crimes that you have comitted.

Tom, Frankfurt, Germany

These three countries have divergent national interests except to undermine US supremacy in the world. What some fail to recognize is that the US is as powerful as it is due to its free market economy and individual liberty. Until their people are free to produce, their economies will never be able to compete and produce the innovations and wealth created in the US. Thus, they must resort to efforts to undermine the US. Sadly, US foreign policy that sometimes elevates private economic interests over national interests aids them in those efforts.

Martin, Austin, TX

Thats what people do with bullies, they gang up on them. I personally LOVE it. and american corporations will freak when they realize we are setting up a scenerio where we are adversaries to 40% of the worlds potential consumers. So even they will abandon Bush. As a 50 pluss person I grew up believing we were the light for freedom in the world. What a shock to realize with our arms sales, erosion of the Geneva Convention, blockage of world global warming action, financial withholding of support to the UN, and promotion of our self serving interests over the good of the whole we have become an inpediment to negotiation, peace, freedom in the world. I guess Bush can take credit for getting the world to unite.....against us.

Kara, San Rafael, California

Actually, "international community", a majority of us DO approve of the president as evidenced by the most recent presidential election. What most of us DO NOT approve of is not pushing a stance to WIN the war on terror.
I agree with Steve in Little Rock, it's laughable that China and Russia would lecture us on democracy.

Ted, Seattle, WA

All you Bush-bashers, please speak for yourselves and don't apologize to the "international community" for me. I appreciate my president and that he doesn't hold his finger in the wind to determine the decisions that he and his administration make.....unlike our previous president.

Nancy, Orlando, Florida,

I would suggest that the old Soviet government and Communist China have been responible for more deaths (their own citizens) then have died in all US involved wars. Their histories are neither benign nor democratic.

Rick L, Seattle, US, WA

I can't wait until Jan.2009, the healing begins. All the Christians and Muslims will hold hands and sing We are the World.

Al Franken, MINNEAPOLIS, MN

Before you get too excited about this potential alliance there is another old adage you may want to remember. "Be careful what you wish for"

Steve Paulus, Celina, Ohio/ USA

It is quite reqired step from these countries. Everyone seeing the default of Bush policy in the world and everyone is hopping to the arrising of force able to stop his idiotism.

The Pax Americana is not a "Dream of humonity"

ARAB, St.-Petersburg, Russia

china needs usa to buy it product ,has view that it will dominate russia ,and india ,but for oil russia has no industuries,instead critisizing usa they should work with to help bring democracy then again two are not democracies

hiil, cleveland , usa ohio

What is it about this forum that attracts reactionaries?

Peter, Sacramento, CA

I am an American and before the end of these comments many in America will have already classified and categorized me. I wish to remain a soveriegn nation who remains for the people and by the people, not a nation under international law, but not a nation that is an island to itself. I want America to remain free from others forcing their opinions or beliefs on me, yet as a person of faith I find that my beliefs are under assault and doctrine contrary to my faith is being taught in our classrooms, literally forced on faith based families. Now alternative life styles are being forced, not only through the school system but also through the television. Why can't people just leave each other alone? Why does it have to become law? If a person chooses to pray in public, why are the to be shunned? You cannot separate the person from their faith or the faith from the person. Americans need to take their respective foot off the gas pedal of life and slow it up. Divided we will not stand.

Patrick Boren, Van Alstyne, Texas

To David from Rockville Center, NY...You are on the money excellent contribution

jim campbell, Irvine, USA

I have serious doubt that any one of the three leaders mentioned could say the phrase "more democratic" with a straight face.

Bill, New York, NY/USA

I don't have any problem with countries gathering together to promote greater understanding and, frankly, if the US is always included on the guest list at meetings this leads to infantalization, a sad state that's too often on display in international politics these days.

It's not all about the US and it shouldn't be. One salient fact remarkable by its absence is the official US reaction to the meeting. If Washington were to be alarmed, that would no doubt have been included in the story but a statement of pleasure at improved relations where in the past there had been war would have entirely killed the spin and thus could not be included. The silence is telling...

TM Lutas, Munster, IN, USA

Russia is moving to make itself a world player once again. Remember, that Russia may talk about nuclear non-proliferation, but they just agreed to enrich uranium for Iran and are major exporters of arms throughout the world. Combine that with a stranglehold on the natural gas needs of western Europe, and Russia has a huge amount of influence. If India and China make deals concerning energy purchase, Russia will begin to have a stronger say in world politics.

Luke C., Oregon, USA,

I agree It's time to make this world a better place for ALL not just for the chosen few ... We all count!!!

karen , crestview, us

Why is he American public ever so suspicious of Russia or China and now India?

These are three big countries with a lot of cultural and economic histories. There has to be balance of power. No-body is interested in challenging the US. They have their own populations and economies to take off.

An Asian, San Francisco, USA

Everyone jump on this band wagon, until one morning we wake up in the minority of world affairs. Look at these three with the population and natural resources they control and we may not be so happy with an alliance of communists and socialists who have no reason to be friends with us.

Mike, Broken Arrow, OK,

Ok for all of you putting this on Bush. They said since the end of the cold war and I know that the liberal memory only goes back to 2000.
Someone will always be the most powerful country and I'd rather have the US in that position. Not only that we are better off being more feared than liked.

Matt, Atlanta,

Perhaps the USA should open the borders, allow for free access to all information, and disband from being a country, to allow for all others to control and run the world.

Philip Pate, ALB, NM

All of us must work together for our children,so that they will have a world worth living in. Our destructive capabilities have outstripped our humanity. We are now beyond justice, we need forgiveness and love so that we can tell each other the truth, for truth is the only foundation that will stand.The children, look at the children. The choice is ours. This is our planet for we are one.

erich kronberger, South Bend, USA, IN

All of us must work together for our children,so that they will have a world worth living in. Our destructive capabilities have outstripped our humanity. We are now beyond justice, we need forgiveness and love so that we can tell each other the truth, for truth is the only foundation that will stand.The children, look at the children. The choice is ours. This is our planet for we are one.

erich kronberger, South Bend, USA, IN

It looks like these countries that have been backwards for so long are finally being won over to democracy. Competition makes everyone stronger, so the US is ready for the competition. We look forward to new ideas; then maybe we can get some return for all the investments we have made aroung the world.

Carl, Dallas, TX

Excuse me Chuck, Rory and Lisa, but did it look like these guys were asking for U.S. permission to pursue their goals? America is no longer calling the shots, guys. Better get used to it. No one stays on top forever. And uh, maybe you should dig a little deeper for the truth here., Alice. You 'd be amazed how deep the rabbit hole goes.

Melanika, Ruston, LA, USA

reading the comments from the us citizens on this board , i am astounded that there still appears to be hubris/arrogance/pig-headedness, call it what you will, on the part of the people of the so called 'united' states.
it's absurd to call sovereign nations, some with 1,000's of years of history and culture behind them, 'third rate' countries. oh, this is soooo why the world has problems with the US. All i want to say here is GROW UP United States and stick your adolescent insecurities away. The rest of the world doesn't want you to play with your dangerous toys any more.

tom pryce, darwin, australia

Oh how I wish the next few years were over. I see the USA rightly becoming very introverted and the powers discussed in this article taking the stage. god help Europe and everyone else then. Remember, then America that you can tak ecare of yourself and should only take care of yourself. And history repeats itself...

Peter, Bomburst, Vulgaria

World is gonna change soon.....we all must battle for planet Earth not with each other!

NicSO, Lovran, Croatia

'the world is jealous of American prosperity.'

In fact, most of the world isn't. Most of the world lives in societies which average people are at least as prosperous as average people in the US (and often more so), or feel that if it wasn't for American postwar hegemony, people feel they would be much better off than they are now. This includes most of Latin and Central America, just to start with.

Giordan Smith, Bangkok, Thailand

It's no small irony that most of the idiotic comments on English press websites originate in America. One can even gauge the IQ and politics of the writer by punctuation and grammar. Fundamentalist religious beliefs also lurk in the text.

To be sure, other nations have their problems (the UK, the Blair government and the damning UNICEF report on children) but in my travels I've observed that lorry drivers in small Canadian towns have more sense than elected officials in the United States (nevermind their numbskull constituents). I wouldn't invite us to an international discussion, either, and would feel great if China shut off trade for a few weeks (bye-bye Wal Mart), to follow up on that casual downing of an old satellite.

With Regret,
In the Ashes,
From Weimar America,

Jeff, Boston, MA

To counter the last comment, it was actually the British who did first recognise Hitler as a threat and the British who stood alone against world terror in the 1940's. This has a direct correlation to the current world situation where europe understands that diplomacy has to run it's full course until force is brought to bear. How sad that the USA is stuck in this nineteenth century nationalism that most of the democratic world has grown out of.

David, Croydon, Surrey

I am not a big fan of the president and I know many of you are not as well. However, this is not all the fault of President Bush. You hatred of the President has blinded you. There is a jealousy of our culture and out attitude that contributes to a lot of this mistrust. Just remember that under President Clinton our reputation was getting blasted around the world. It has alot to do with jealousy, our wealth and that we are the world's only super power. Russia is a Super Power want to be and China is one in the making. Before you bash who ever is in charge of our great country you should remember that these countries have their own motives. To be at the same leverl on the global stage.

Doug, Minneapolis, MN

Lets see...The United States had to fight two wars to get the Brits off our backs, then save them twice from the Germans, then protect them from the Soviets for 50 years, then fight three little wars to keep islamic radicals and maniac dictators from perpetrating terrorist attacks against the west. So yes its time we stop acting with impunity and let ungrateful little buggers like Kevin Sullivan take care of themselves. Oh yeah......next time a terrorist blows up a bomb in London, call China, Russia or India for help.

john dosta, miami, florida

"this is the consequences of having an idiot for a president...
how can he communicate with international leaders when he can't even speak proper english. "

Oh, so everybody loved the US prior to 20 Jan 01. What a bunch of lunacy. Might the problem more likely be a KGB colonel in charge in Moscow that perhaps didn't buy into the "I Love the USA" that apparently everyone else did in Mr Smith's pre-Bush world. Then again, several have posted the desire to see "any alliance" to counter the US. We've had some of those...Hitler-Stalin comes to mind...but hey, they were just leading the struggle to stop the Evil British and Americans. There are lots of fun alliances I think would bring true world peace. Some "non-aligned" enlighted leaders like Robert Mugabe and Fidel Castro (they could join up with Kim Jong Il and share some swell stories about the liberation struggles against the UK/US and how free and prosperous their peoples are now).

Steve, Triangle, Virginia

What exactly is s neocon?
Anyway I would like to know if the USA is truly viewed so negatively from the outside. If most of the world is threatened by us then why do so many contries rely on our aid? If you all don't trust us than each country should say "thank you for your help, but it's time to go home now."

Realistically what is the lesser of 2 evils:
A Nuclear Iran who has declared that Israel should be wiped off the face of the Earth.
Or a country that may have a little too much influence but full of good intentions?

Just something to think about.

Tony, SCS, Michigan

If you still believe, in light of all that has transpired, that the positioning of the United States as the "evil empire" wasn't engineered deliberately then this won't be a learning experience for us anymore than the last two conflicts.

There is a power at work that is neither national, nor religious. It is restrained by neither morality, nor religion, it maintains no standing armies, has no allegiance to people or place and it has been working ceaselessly and tirelessly for centuries in order to achieve its ends.

Bush is no more the engineer of the current catastrophe than Hitler was of the last one, they are simply the targets upon which the global elites have pinned a bullseye and it is the human populations once again that will pay the price for our deliberate and unconscionable ignorance and cowardice in standing up to them.

I have to say, we deserve whatever we get because we have failed to learn from history.

francis parker, elysium fields, usa

and then there is N. Korea...which i believe their recent agreement to disarm is lip service.

In my opinion the U.S. is deemed as a world wide bully and unfortunately it is a justifiable opinion. It's only a matter of time and pressure that eventually all of the weaker kids on the block join together to either protect each other or retaliate against the common threat. As our military forces are pushed to brink and spread thin around the globe it gives others an opportunity to move in whilst we are in a dire situation.

War, as in politics, can make for strange bedfellows and we are getting a glimpse of that.

zonumb, lawton, ok,

I keep hearing people say "US" and "Them". To bring some perspective to this debate the United States has in the recent past supplied weapons to countries that are known human rights violators/ dictators (Iran, Iraq.. and Pakistan an Ally). Befor people start pointing fingers at other nations sitting here please step back and look at your own government's policies. India has benefited by opening up to the world and its not just american money as some claim that is boosting the economy.

People love freedom and democracy in other parts of the world too. India has been fighting Islamic Terrorism even before it ever got to the Westen World. Please get your facts right. To all freedom loving people living in the US stop painting the rest of the world with the same used brush.

Shravan, Hyd, India

If an alliance such as this does not give one cause for pause than you have no appreciation for history. This type of alliance does not bode well for the United States or for the world. I am suprised how quickly some of you blame George Bush for this situation. The United States has traditionally had some very powerful enemies. The alliance of these three promise to deliver a new one for the new century.

Jim, Houston, TX

I think this article is proof that the US lacks the actual "absolute power" that you describe Mr. Sullivan. If the US had absolute power the conflict in the middle east would long be over, most likely ended with forced cooperation from Russia, China and India. The conflict is not over.

Another point you failed to derive is that Russia, China and India agreed on outside interference on separatist conflicts. (A country trying to flex its own power within its borders.) The US is simply trying to defend itself from future attacks from Islamofascism, protecting its sovereignty, just the same as the aforementioned countries are doing within their borders.

Frank J., Lawrence, KS

Just as two companies closely at odds have to dump ALL their resources into countering their competitors bid for a larger share of the market, so too does one nation have to be more restrictive with ITS generosity but instead gear its efforts more to a balanced relationship.
In other words, the more the US has to share influence around the world with another nation (or two or three), the less money the US will be able to send to Africa to fight AIDS, send to moderate governments in the Middle East to stem the tide of extremism, the less (that’s right less) caveat the US can be about CO2 emissions. People argue that shared power promotes dialog and thus is a great thing as if compromise will always result in a better conclusion. But THINK about it, a compromise between the idea that ‘All men are created equally’ and ‘I have a right to own a slave’ resulted in a black man, legally, being 1/3 of a man (that ratio might not be historically accurate, but the point still holds true). Is a compromise between the most generous nation on the planet (the US) and the two most closed societies (Russia and China) going to result in a better conclusion? I would put forth to you that the answer is NOT for the children of Africa (and many other nations).

Jon D,, Austin, TX, USA

That's right Ted. Guantanamo holds terrorists that other countries are afraid to take back. The NSA tracks terrorist organizations to protect americans and our allies. It's great to see that these countries have less people hanged, drawn and quartered. It will really be great when no one is hanged, drawn and quarterd. Thankfully, most in Australia disagree with you.

Roy, Monroe, Georgia

"Yet when the world needs help, America is always the first to help."....uhhh...buddy....read up on your history. "First" isn't years later.

Tibor, Toronto,

The USA became so powerful because of its economic succes. Captialism works! With this wealth we are able to maintain the most powerful military in the world and defend any threat to our democratic/capitalistic society. Whenever you are at the top, it is expected others will condemn or challenge your success. Even some of our own citizens somehow feel 'guilty' at our wealth and success rather than recognizing our accomplishments. The only thing that would make them happy is if we lose our power and wealth!
I say that our country can compete against any other country because of our business leaders and technology. Let them come after us!
The only thing is that we must ALWAYS maintain a powerful military and be ready to challenge any element that threatens to destroy us and not be timid to take strong actions to stop them in their tracks!

Vince Currie, Atlanta,

So we see the elites of India, Russia and China want to align to "counter" the evil west. Yet where do the common citizens of those countries choose to emigrate to to start a new life?

Do Indians flood Russia? Do Russians yearn to breathe the free air of China? Does the common Chinese citizen dream of living in India?

Of course the common citizens of those countries by the millions risk all to come to the west and in particular the "world dominator" United States.

When the day comes that indeed the numerous citizens of India, Russia, China also choose to migrate to each others countries, then truly they'll be peace in the world. Until then the countries of this imperfect planet that best guarantee individual freedoms, those of the west with the U.S. as the leader, are legitimately superior as evidenced by immigration patterns. The ruling elites of India, Russia and China apparently refuse to humbly admit to this and seek to oppose instead of reaching out.

Michael, New York,

"Less and less people getting hanged drawn and quartered" - and you imply that you'll back them? Wow. As for NSA...let's see, they take four years to process a security clearance - check...are on a relatively open installation (Ft Meade) with "NSA" clearly marked on the highway sign on the Baltamore-Weshington Parkway - check...and have their hands tied by the ACLU and Dumocrat party - check. Man, faced with THAT sort of shadowy outfit, I'd opt for a nuclear Iran, too. That's FAR less scary.

One wonders what sort of news you get in Perth, Ted!

Steve, Triangle, Virginia

Ultimately, these three countries are desperate for resources and commerce, of which the US can help. Frankly, I believe Putin is out for some cold-war payback and is looking for some help to get the job done.

I would agree the US should minimalize their seemingly emperialistic ways and seek collaboration among other nations. However, there is a huge coalition in Iraq now, albeit with smaller nations.

Iran is, IMHO, doing a lot of posturing. The Iranian people would be wise to toss out their president and seek a more peaceful leader, one who doesn't continue to fan the middle-east flames.

Mike, West Milford, NJ

From a U.S. citizen: Iraq is a unforgivable mistake by our President. I for one never thought once that Iraq had WMDs because Clinton kept bombing Saddams Army almost every time they stepped out of line. If Russia, China and India want to form a multifaceted alliance of sorts then by all means go ahead. I am quite tired of my countries resources being offered to solve other nations problems especially when more often than not it is not asked for nor welcomed. We have our own problems at home and if the "Moscow-Beijing-Delhi" connection can shoulder the weight of the worlds problems for a while that is fine by me. As for all of Americas critics; I welcome criticiscm but I say also look to your own countries. No one government or nation-state on this planet does not have its own inherent problems or secrets.

Marcus Cotey, Longmont, CO, USA

What's probably the most amusing about all this is they had to communicate in ENGLISH, our language and not one of theirs. We need to just turn our back on the world for a few years and let them try and figure it out for a bit.

Justin, Memphis, TN

Sullivan, who apparently thinks that "London" is in "London," rather than the UK, is a clear pseudointellectual. Bush is, at worst, an impractical idealist whose goal has always been to spread Democracy around the world, though he has often gone about doing so the most backwards way imagineable.

Jordan Lewis, Baton Rouge, Louisiana, USA

US "step in at any time like we did in WWII" Hello! It was late '41 more than 2 yrs after the start and then only because of Pearl Harbor.

Julian, Washington DC, USA

The US is "blood thirsty"? Riiiiight.

If that were the case, Iran and North Korea would be pretty bloody now. And Iraq would have been carpet bombed into submission.

I'll admit, the US isn't purely ultruistic in her pursuit of freedom and democracy around the globe. But by the same token, it's ridiculuous to label US efforts to counter radical jihadists as "blood thirsty".

PS - who funds the largest chunk of the UN? Who gives the most to fight AIDS in Africa? Who gave the most when SE Asia was hit with a tsunami? As Bill alluded to above, the US cannot be characterized solely by its efforts to fight terrorism. And I shudder to think what this world would look like if China or the former USSR were the only superpower.

John, Houston, TX

Mr. Sullivan, you cannot seriously think that China and Russia is a welcome counterbalance to the US. The EU might someday serve that role, but China and Russia? Journalists getting killed for writing the news? All independent thought quashed? A counterbalance may be needed, but lets at least find democratically elected governments to serve that role instead of stalinist dictatorships.

Chuck, Ft Lauderdale, FL

The willingness of the international "community" to always assume the US is bad and that cruel, despotic nations like Russia and China can contribute to a "democratic" multi-polar world borders on farce. In everything from international food and medicine aid to the spread of science and human rights, the US continues to lead the pack. Trusting the fate and governance of the planet to Russia or China is so foolhardy it beggars belief.

Rory, New York, NY

We, as Americans, have given the world well, the World. Left to it's own devices & the Madmen, that have come & gone, Adolf Hitler, Lenin, Marx, need I go on? We have always given back more than ever received, such as the countries, to the people. I think at stake here today is the world, from terrorisim, which left unchecked would run amuck, devour the world whole ,which by the way is it's aim. Free Will would be gone Freedom a thing of the past! Something our future generations would read about much like we read "The Communist Manifesto" or "Mein Kempf" as rational caring human beings we cannot let this happen, because the world is at stake here! One World Goverment Agenda could never work, there would be no balance, Absolute Power, well would be ABSOLUTE! We need the people, this idea goes back to Socrates. There seems to be a blindness settling over the world, happening slowly, yes but there eerily creeping in. I for one don't want to be a Muslim I have a God, I respect theirs, but them not mine.

Lisa Saims, Charlotte, North Carolina

The signs of the times are so obvious. Times change. and empires fall. Any student of history can attest to that. The IRC is probably going to build an even stronger alliance, and will certainly bring in other nations who can find a point of agreement - disagreeing with US policy (thanks Bush).

Discrediting Russia and China based on it's people is incredibly naive. While they may not be strong at this point, with an alliance with other nations they can help each other, build each other up and in 20 years we could be looking at a whole new superpower group.

Oh yeah and the bible does predict all this....just a little side note.

Sophia, Indianapolis, IN

Ooooohhhh Neocon....you guys throw that word around...what the heck does it mean anyway. If it weren't for the US's global strategy, you would be speaking German right now.

Chris Marcus, Atlanta, United States of America/Georgia

Alliances are made to be broken. In the end each country has it's own interests as their primary goal. Enemies and friends come and go on the global stage. Naturally they would like to take the U.S. down a peg or two. With Putin , it still rankles him that they lost the Cold War . China and India are the new kids on the block and would like to flex and expand their new found economic and military powers. Our problem is not so much these countries but that we feel duty bound to be the policeman of the planet.

LARRY, KENMORE, NEW YORK

riiiight. And Russia, China, and India are all the models of freedom and human rights who should be leading the charge. This is purely self serving politics masquerading as some type of global peace initiative.

I have no qualms with countries opposing US policy but please lets not have any illusions about what these countries are after. Russia would kill, mame, and murder (many would claim they already have) to be where the US is today.

Evan, Orlando, FL

One day, we Mexicans will be a Super Power. As soon as we get rid of the corruption in our Gov't., adopt a viable currency, end our guerrilla fighting, stamp out our economy dependent illegal drugs, elect compotent officials, encourage our youth to have more ambition than getting a high score on Grand Theft Auto, then one day we will rule the North-...eh. Forget it. It's too much work.

Need some weed?

Marcus, Mexico, Mexico

India, China, and Russia are second rate powers at best. It is a bit of a stretch to think that any of these nations could ever be a counter balance to the US. The fact that people around the world welcome a so called "anti US alliance" to "keep the US in check" only proves to American's that the world is jealous of American prosperity. A prosperity that the timid and weak gevernments of Europe can never provide for their people. Face it world, US domiance is here to stay...and you are better off for it. Without us there would be world wide anarchy and the world would fall into a new "dark age". Only the US, and the American people have the courage to tackle tyrany and opression. Thank God for GW Bush!

Travers Rutherford, Dallas, USA Texas

I wonder if the legacy that W seeks may be that he was the one to bring the US down a notch and lose us the status of being the only world power. I agree with you that absolute power corrupts absolutely. It's possible that we would have a safer world if there were no world power.

Linda Falkner, Tampa, Florida

The comments from the USA so far are all wide of the mark. What Russia, China and India are discussing is what all Europe is thinking too, and indeed most Americans also, that we should all talk and not go to war so precipitously.

Frank, Halifax, UK

You know I always want to snap back with this breakdown of why the world needs us but its becoming ridiculous. This is what I want. Pull out all of our troops from around the world. Stop payment of all the money we give to other countries. Graciously ask the America hating corrupt bloated bureaucracy know as the UN to leave our shores. This will allow us to focus on innovation and feeding our own people. Stop trading with places like China until the agree to play fair. Lets become isolationists in everything besides economy. Lets just let the genocides take place and next time the Bavarians want to goose step around Paris, so be it. I'm sick of us propping up countries around the world, especially these failing western european "post-modern utopias" and then having them bash us. Bye Bye good luck with out our innovation money and might.
Seriously, anyone who believes that these three countries have anything but their own interests at heart is delusional.

Michael, Boston, USA

Hey Kevin Sullivan!!!!!!!! Jealous of the GREATEST country in the world are we???? It's easy to bash America. I can't wait until the next natural disaster hits your country. Since you hate us so much I expect you to turn down the millons and millions of American dollars that will help rebuild your community. That goes for all of you other whiney spineless countries. We are the first ones to save your butts when things go tough. However, when we are struck with one of the most devastating Hurricanes the world has ever seen, no one, none of you came in to help. You should bow down and thank the Lord every day that the United States of America exists. If it didn't, you would all be speaking German!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brian, Coldwater, OHIO

Russia and China are both paragons of democracy aren't they? I mean they have complete freedom of speech, religion, and the press in both countries right? Neither of them have ever forcefully nationalized private industry at all have they?

We should listen to them both, because it is obvious by how they manage their own political processes that they are serious about creating a more democratic world.

Grudge, Washington D.C., United States of America

Mr. Sulivan I very much agree with what you have said here. I thank you.

Sinclaire, Portland, oregon

It is about time other countries besides the US start taking responsibility for the problems they create. They enable terrorst states like Iraq, Iran, Syria with trade alliances and then rely on the US to clean things up when those state go rogue. And then when the US does take action, you have idiots like Kevin Sullivan spew lame rhetoric about how the US abuses its power. Despite what you read in the media, many of us in the US are sick of countries who ruin their economies with socialists policies (all of Europe), make treaties with tyrants (France, Russia), and then cry like babies when someone plays the adult (US) and stops their little party. We are tired of playing "Daddy." Keep this attitude up and you will find the US retreating within its borders and become more isolationist, much like the period prior to WWI. With the economic and political problems facing Europe, it can not afford an isolationist US.

William Bowles, Louisville, Kentucky USA

I cannot wait for Bush to be long gone so that the impotent, neoliberal, elites of Europe who keep their populations enslaved with 60%+ socialist taxes while providing marginal employment for the masses huddling in the corner from fear tactics like anthropogenic global climate change continue with their desire to expand socialist tax systems to the rest of the world. Add to that the third world petrothugs awash in petrodollars to finance their nationalist, corrupt anti-American rhetoric. WOOHOOO! bring it on baby!

I cannot wait for Bush to be gone so that we can get down to the next global war. About time.

K Irvin, St Augustine, Fl

This alliance is something to really sit and think about. With the bad PR worldwide regarding the war and the ultimate decision to fight a politically correct war the world is now a more confused place to live. The United States is the only country in the world that will fight politically correct wars and even if it kills every man and women in the war the left will say at least we did it fair. This is a time for strengtth not weakness. It was streangth that kept us safe for 50 years and it will only get safer if we can again be the biggest bear in the pack. Wake up and smell the blood to come not cry over the blood that has been let.

George Lobman, Toms River , US / NJ

In responce to Kevin.....

Your comment was unintelligent and is proof of a declining United Kingdom. You would welcome a US downfall? Who do you think would fill that vaccum Kevin? You are at best a clouded thinker to believe that this would be a good thing for the rest of the free world. I certainly hope that the majority of Brits do not share your opinion. If you want to trade partners and go to bed with the likes of Russia, France, China...ect, do not come to us for help when the knife gets put in your country's back. I don't think there will be any sympathy left. Europe has already done a good enough job of making the USA feel deserted and backstabbed. You need us "mate" alot more than we will ever need you.

Matt, Tampa, USA

India, China and Russia don't want a nuclear-armed Iran, but they also don't want Iran bothered with restrictions because they do business with them. I'm neither a "neo-con" nor a liberal, but I find it passing strange that leaders of 40% of the world's population are quite so muddled.

Patrick Curry, Irvine, CA,

Wake up! Do you really want a return to the days of East vs West? When you use terms like "neocon," you show your ignorance of American internal politics. There is no such thing as a neocon in America: that is a label placed upon those who support the President--a label meant to diminish, not define, them.
Read your twentieth century history. Do you really want Eastern Alliance bombers over London?
You welcome a union between nations that will challenge WESTERN strategy. Not just Bush's, but your nation's as well. Well, you have been misnamed, you should be known as Neville Chamberlin, not Kevin Sullivan.

Steve Henderson, Grand Junction, Colorado, USA

You folks that want less US are probably going to see that happen one day and I think then you will be crying out for more US again. Every bad thing that is said about the US is not based on any facts but merely left wing media spoon feeding to a lazy audience that won't find out any facts for themselves. If the US were truly the evil influence that you vocal minority say they are then why are they not acting like it. The US is a force for good in the world and everyone knows it. I hope you don't get your wish, that would be very very bad.

Chris, BROKEN ARROW,

Forget the lot of them - let's mine the moon with the USA. We have the capacity and capability toegether to do it.

AW, Coventry, UK

This article would have greater clarity, if it had stated the obvious: that it is the bizarre subservience of US policy makers to Zionists and Israeli ambitions, that is driving the emerging multipolarity. A negotiated Korean solution to Iran is not possible, because Israel must eliminate, even the possibility of a technologically and scientifically advanced Iran. Because the US has suppressed its own interest in the middle east for the sake of an insane Israel, the US itself is perceived as insane and dangerous.

Matthew M, Bumpass, va

Kevin Sullivan -- you are so right. I think the world would be better off if influenced by nations that have never tasted a drop of free will, freedom of speech, and ultimately freedom of choice in their entire history (Russia and China). Did I mention I was being sarcastic?

John, Columbus, OH

some in london dont get it ...we are talking about our democratic way of life, 2 of 3 countries do not share this idea. it sounds like a good idea a 'counter balance' ...until they impose their will on merry england. then your US hating ways will change and you'll look to the US to bail you out AGAIN. keep letting the hate blind you but in the end we are on the same side.

manny, dallas, tx, US

Not all of us in the US respect or follow Bush in his Pollyanna on PCP walk through history. In the words of Terry Jones "He's not my king, I didn't vote for him"We count the days till he leaves office and hope he leaves our country somewhat intact. We can only hope. Cheers!

John Magin, Huntington Station, NY, USA

I believe the last major world Axis formed in the thirties. I believe that one had roots in Germany. ;)

m philos, gilbert, AZ

I don't think we (the West) should take much comfort from this triple alliance. China is still a totalitarian state and Russia appears to be heading in that direction (again). India is a democracy of sorts, thanks to Britain, but only lacks wealth to start throwing its weight around. Once Bush has left the scene, the USA, whether Republican or Democrat, will start to pursue a less belligerent foreign policy. Nothing will ever be perfect in this world, but who'd want to be under the control (I almost typed 'jackboot') of the likes of these three rogues?

Mi6ora, Manchester, UK

"Any alliance that can act as a counter balance to US/neocon global strategy can only be welcomed." Really? ANY alliance? So Castro's Cuba, Kim Jong Il's North Korea, and Ahmedinijad's Iran are preferable to the United States? Interesting. How about Hitler's Germany and Stalin's USSR? They had an alliance to counter the US, too. That worked out extraordinarily well for world peace. Why, anything beats that evil US Consititution or that pesky Bill of Rights. Hmmm...how about some other notional alliances since "any" alliance is better than the US: how about Chavez and Mugabe? Pol Pot and Bin Laden - now they would have made a great pair, and definitely better than Bush and Blair. Would that work better for you? As for "absolute power" with regards to President Bush, the statement only makes clear a stunning misunderstanding of the American system of government. But the Bush bashing, especially in Europe, continues while the old KGB colonel in Moscow busily rebuilds his old utopia.

Steve, Triangle, Virginia

Counter balance never comes from immoral entities.Washington's job is to use America's clout for Americans. America is not perfect but we are the most moral country to ever exist. God has rewarded us for that.
However liberalism and pagan culture are destroying our country.President Bush believes in limited government and limited power, far less power than the liberals want.
Good men know that evil needs to be called evil and evil must be confronted.Global strategy is only necessary because peace is a hope in a hostile world. The greater good must be prepared for any situation that creates a risk against it.

Dennis, Sewell, N.J>

Yep, the US should've kept it's hegemony to itself 50 years ago when Europe was threatened by the Soviet Union. We'd all be better off.

Ingrates.

Tom, Charlottesville, Virginia

Kevin, please be sure to keep our number handy anyway the next time Europe needs help solving any conflicts. Funny, how Europe can watch a country like Yugoslavia blow up right next door with incredibly vicious atrocities and nothing gets solved until we step in.
As an American, I would love nothing better than to see you solve your own problems. However, reality is that you're more than comfortable to sit back and watch while innocents get slaughtered.
If we would just cut off the funding that we provide and take that approach of 'let the chips fall where they may' what do you think would happen? Think about all the innocents in the MidEast, China, Russia, Balkans..who were oppressed. It isn't an easy answer.

Dave, New York, New York

I agree balance is needed. I only have doubt of the true intentions of the behind the scene alliance of Russia, China, and India. Who also have ties with Iran, which has ties with Venezuela and North Korea. My fear is these countries have been power hungry for so long and now, united, they may not use their power to "balance" in the long term. The secrecy of China; the defiance, secrecy and antigonizing Iran; along with the recent moves Russian President Putin have made, concern me. The EU failed to persuade Iran's pursuit of Nuclear technology. Russia and China talk a good game but rarely back up the consequences the INTERNATIONAL community agreed upon. I personally feel they have an alternate agenda. We do need balance. Unfortunately you can only persuade others who want balance diplomaticly. Those who want power will be defiant of the International community; Sadaam, Ahmadinejad, Kim Jong, to name a few. I only ask, how long should countries (any country) be allowed to defy the UN?

Nathan Vaughn, Louisville, United States, KY

Great Kevin!

I hope you and the world's apologists for Saddam, Osama, et.al. will join us in asking the world communities to take over the lion's share of UN funding, policing world crisis spots, and coming to the aide of nations such as we did during the tsunami. Too often, the world wants to villify the US to the point that we are seen as the problem. There could be nothing better than China, Russia and India taking a fair share of the world's problems on.

WWI, WWII, Marshall Plan, tsunami relief....we're tired of being the World's "go to" nation while being criticized at every turn. I am sure that the next time there is a crisis you and others can be counted on to criticize Russia, China and India nations for not doing enough (or doing too much) while we "Imperial Americans" take a well-deserved break.

John, Virginia Beach, VA USA

Yeah. You hate Bush, so this is a good thing? Russia and China teaming up with India who should be a natural ally.

Great ideas, there.

What's the history of the UK, again? What exactly did you do around the world?

You did it with poor intentions and it was glorified. The US does it with noble intentions and it's villified.

It's no wonder we can't stand Euros. Hypocritical, blind, children.

John, NY, NY

Yes, these 3 countries are large and represent great economic and military power. India is touted as the world's largest democracy.

Russia is backsliding to communisn. China goes about its internal affairs in a way that would make Stalin proud. And India? A trainwreck in slow motion.

That said, these three should certainly get together and show us the straight and narrow way.

Bill, vineland, usa

In that case, Mr. Sullivan, don't call on US to save your butt again when the communists are knocking down your door.

William Richards, Orlando, USA

ho hum. The US economy is still around 23% of the entire world's economy, more than all three of these puny economies combined. Plus when Russia and China get real democracies, maybe they can sit at the table with real countries----right now they're kleptocracies.

daveinboca, Boca Raton, Florida

India and China are "Teenagers"? Its seems a little churlish to call two countries who's societies have been around for thousends of years as Teenagers. Also one of the main reasons America is the power it is today is because of the fact that it was founded by the British Empire and rode on the British Empires (and other European Empires) coat tails. The very concepts that America is founded upon were developed by european phliosophers. We are one in the same hence the term "Western World" to donate europe and the anglosphere (UK, US, Canda, Australia). Americans do level some interesting critisim's of Europe but accept of few of ours will you? Say the very in-action of the UN against war is more constructive that what is happening in Iraq right? Who knows what could have been achieved if Blair/Bush had waited for a few months in Iraq before charging in, maybe even some better after war planning! I for one will keep a wary eye on the new eastern bloc but will welcome the balance.

Stephen, Maidstone, UK,

Kevin Sullivan,

You're lucky you're not speaking german right now.

Chris, San Diego, USA

First everyone, foreign and domestic, need to realize that although Bush is the President and termed a "neocon". His views are not entirely in focus with true conservatism. Awarding democracy to the Middle East as a goal is pure foolishness, however the US will and should defend its interests at home and abroad. We will act whether the global community concurrs or not to defend our ideals and our way of life. If you don't like it tough, try and stop us. The only enemy the US should fear is the polical left. "..one Nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all."

Jeremy, Charlotte, NC, USA

These countries have a right to be concern with any one powerfull country , but make no mistake do not threaten us or you will see a mighty power unleash. Iran is an evil state Islam is the Devils religion. We must we must destroy this evil.Russia, China and India better remember these evil religios freak are much closer to them than to us.
America wake -up these are our true enemies.

drod, miami, fl

Well, since we, the American people, seem to have any say in what our government does, and since our government continues to strip us of our liberties, then I'm quite happy that someone is doing something. We are becoming international bullies. We have more than enough problems at home to keep us occupied.

Dave, Austin,

Mr Hunt, what exactly is India doing to its people in order to advance its agenda? India is one of the most stable democracy's in the world. The US promotes the idea that liberal democracy can only be achieved through adoption of western culture and the western concept of modernisation. However, India has retained her traditions, but advanced economically, to the benefit of the indian people, not to their detriment. I don't know what your source of info is but you are misinformed.

M Nair, London, UK

Bush has started a new cold war.. USA -vs- Globe

Mike, Wilmington, NC,

The USA wants to defend the right of individuals to act free. These countries want to defend the right of goverments to act free.

The USA grew out of that struggle.

There is a difference between Irak and the Iraqis, Iran and Iranians, Cuba and Cubans etc.

Bush will be gone soon, what then? He will not try to stay in power a la Putin, Castro, and all of those dictators. They dislike the USA because if it was not for the USA they would have a field day raping their neighbors
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emilio ferrer, Atlanta, USA

So, what they're really saying is "It's all about oil." I thought that was THEIR gripe against the US in Iraq. How come we didn't grab that Iraq oil? We're putting 400 Billion Dollars into Iraq and have taken NO oil out. It looks like America ARE the good guys after all!

David Coles, Atlanta, Georgia/USA

Yea, Kevin, it's been a drag to be the world super power and be prepared to step in at any time like we did in WWII. Now it is time for Russia, China, and India to step up and make the world in their image. Onward and upward!

pat, dc, us

let see... India and its system of "lower" humans, Russia and its KGB presedent (killing of over 40 million by his organization comes to mind) and China and its treatment of those who dare to think and talk.. Nice group! Germany, Spain and Japan in 1930's comes to mind too.. What next? UN as a Leage of Nation? Should we now find a small country that we can "sell" for the sake of world peace? It did not help in 1938. Seven years later we had over 55 million people dead.

Victor, chicago, USA/IL

Its about time someone challanged the American DICTATORSHIP that has developed since the cold war.
Maybe now the US forigen policy will represent the people not the ones in charge

Bill, billings, USA

Long live the greatest / fairest / most humane nations in history...Russia, China, and India. Let's have them impose their excellent humanist, peace and individual freedom standards on the rest of the world. Then finally we would all live as oppressed powerless citizens of this planet.

Why is it so fashionable to say beware of America? Everyone I have ever met foreign or not loves everything American.

America is the most romantic of all notions.

John, LIVERPOOL, USA NY

Typical do-nothing countries that together will achieve even more - nothing. As an American I welcome other nations to actually do something to curtail the growing dangers that our world is facing. It just seems their answer is to keep America from doing anything. What country is doing anything (in realistic terms) about the conflict around Israel, Africa, mid-east, Chechnya. People are dying - tell me what countries are making a difference? (insert cricket noise) Sure - we are so corrupt and need a counter balance. The counterbalance will be this - US actually tries to help - the counterbalanced "nations" will stand in the US's way to prevent anything from happening. So they let the conflicts get worse, allow Iran and other to develop nukes, and soon - kaboom on US soil. That's a great strategy........real safe also. So i guess you would rather prosecute the rapist AFTER raping your kids. After all - your strategy is sit by and react afterwards - don't try to prevent it.

Randall, Houston, Texas

Wow Kevin, nice cliche there. It's always good to spoute inannicties when you let emotion overrule reason. The only reason this is news is the inclusion of India. China and Russia have been trying to undernime the U.S and western society since the communists came to power. So, Kev, if Bush and the neocons have "absolute power" where does that leave Kim Jong IL?

E Mack, Cleveland, Ohio

This is widening evidence of the failed American policies. It is also world leader’s reaction to Mr. Bush’s frightening and disturbing brand of religious faith – which has been a concern abroad for some time. That faith being myopic and exclusive thinking bolstered by aversion learning and enlightenment. Simply put, the American “redneck agenda” is driving India, China, Russia, and others to organize to vie for balance. As the John Steinbeck, a keen observer of the might-makes-right crowd wrote, “Who would have thunk it.”

Dennis, Los Angeles, California

a counter balance to US strategy? So these three corrupt government systems are going to have a positive impact on the world?This is nothing but a self serving way for these countries to try and build thier own individual power and influence, lets see them step up to the plate during the next world crisis, or maybe they can start by supplementing the billions of dollars the US sends around the world, dollars that build the US's power and influence.

mike cofrancesco, torrington, ct

Does any reasoned and seasoned person not know that these powers (India, China and Russia) have indeed figured out exactly what happened on September 11, 2001? Certainly if President Ahmadinejad openly challenges the 9/11 issue in his letter to Bush, would it be a surprise that the leaders of these powers also understand the true ploy of 9/11?

The US, England and Israel are in the proverbial 'end game' of 9/11, and the truth will checkmate all three . . . it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

Paul V. Sheridan, Dearborn, Michigan, USA

LOL, What Americans don't like a little competition? LOL, you guys created the technology, lol!!! You guys brought in Indian and Chinese scientists to 'work' for your firms. The Indians and the Chinese were the ones who created the technology!!! The US has only been around a couple hundred years, the Indians and Chinese for thousands, so calm down young bucks. If the Indians and Chinese left 'american' firms, you guys would be in last place in everything like your sorry *** automotive industry, lol!!!!

Gary, Philadelphia, PA USA

American arrogance will result in it's downfall.

MC, Payson, AZ

I hate to say it but what great achivements has any one of those countries done in the last 300 years? The world today was built on Western ideals. I frankly don't see anything those countries have to offer in technology, ingenuity, and democracy.

Sorry, I don't see the world following those countries except for the 3rd world.

JR, Gerrards Cross, UK

Typical leftist imbecile who has no understanding of the consequences of what you are saying. You have no understanding of the political process in the United States, you are just an outsider looking in.

It was that dangerous lack of knowledge and acceptance of "anything" to counter balance, that led to 2 world wars in the last 100 years.

The world should work together, but be careful of what you wish for. I dare say a United Kingdom dominated by Russia and China wouldn't be as friendly to you as the relationship that the UK and US have enjoyed.

MIke Rhoades, Cleveland, GA, USA

I am tired of the judgemental rants from Europe. If you truely have faith in the United Nations then pay for it. I'm tired of seeing my tax dollars pay for the United Nations. America pays for over 70% of the bill.If Europe has such faith in China, Russia, and India let them have it. Just remember....No nation can be trusted further than its own interests. I doubt that China or Russia has the best interests of Europe, liberty, or freedom in mind.

By the way, in my last trip to the U.K I was greeted with hatred, bigotry, and short minded attitudes by the supposed enlighted brits. I pray that Europe regains its senses so that we can have good relations again.

E.S. , Littleton, USA

Kevin, your statement is very ignorant considering the strategic realities of the world. The U.S. is trying to stabalize the world by bring countries into civilization. Countries that are outliers will continue to cause problems for all of the world. Since the U.S. is a hyper-power and is the only one that can project power around the world it is left to the U.S. to bring the world's outliers into the family of nations.

Lucas Leaon, Burnsville, Minnesot

when will people learn. Russia an China are not doing it because it is the right thing to do. They are doing it so they can get cheap oil or sell nuclear material. President Bush is doing it, not because it is popular or the media likes it, but to protect the American people and the free people of the world. We have to go it alone sometimes or with our good friends the Brits and Aussies because so many other leaders don't act for the right reasons.

Eric H. Taylor, Woodstock, GA, USA

Keep it up. Confrontation will lead to a massive nuclear war throwing global warming of this planet to become Mars 2. Uninhabitable forever.

Calvin Hobbes, San Francisco,

Oh I see, Russia, India, and China won't try to use their power to influence the world. India would never threaten to use Nukes on Pakistan, Russia isn't fighting an illegal war in Chechnya, and China would never launch a war against Taiwan. No, these countries just want to help the rest of the world stand up against the U.S. They don't want power for themselves to dominate the world. Right.

Steve, Evergreen, CO

You're all just jealous haters. I'd bet you'd be singing a different tune if all the foreign and military aid from the U.S. dried up. The U.S. has been covering your butts for 60+ years. I say you're right; no more U.S. hegemony. Let those "budding" democracies with their stellar economies go it alone. And you can take the United Nations with you . . .

Darryll Dennis, El Paso, TX

To the reader who said that we need more UN, why? TO be more corrupt and waste more money? Name something; anything, the UN has done of note the past 10 years. As for the nukes, would we agree? Of course not, because we don't trust Russia or China to do so. The sheer fact that 2 nations have united who diatribe against the West every chance they get shows they long for the old days. We simply trusted (without verification) North Korea and look where it got us. Yes, the cold war is over. But the war against terrorism (which we did not start!) is now on. They've been bombing us since 1991. How much do we take before we strike back? Again, we just want peace, and a level playing field. After that, the human spirit will take over.

Robert Nunemaker, Sunrise, Fl, USA

The US is not trying to act without "impunity". We just recognize that this IS a war. Those of you in England who thought Hitler wasn't a threat, or those in Europe who thought the Soviet Union wasn't a threat now see we were right then, just as we are now. Is it acting with impunity to try to deny a country that has called for the destruction of Israel nuclear weapons? Is it irresponsible to try and stop the actions of madmen like Saddam or the leadership of Darfur? How about trying to stop the mid-East from using oil as a weapon? Should we use food and economics as a weapon? We are just trying to stop the maniacs and level the playing field. After that, Freedom, Democracy and capitalism will be the result in more countries.

Robert Nunemaker, Sunrise, Fl, USA

Wonderful. Two nations (China - Russia) that have murdered and are directly responsible for the murder of more human beings than any nations in history are going to lecture the U.S. on behavior. I think better of India, but they are also vying for influence. Fact....this is more based on their own economic and political interest than any sudden altruistic epiphany.

Jim Breasette, Chesapeake, Virginia, U.S.A

Who is blocking UN action in Darfur? Oil hungry China, among others, but not the USA. Who helped lean on North Korea to give up its nukes? China.

Absolute?

Who sold out the Iraqi people by doing business with Saddam (true blood for oil)? Russia, France. Doesn't sound so absolute to me. Under Bush the US liberated 51 million people from tyranny. The Taliban no longer stones women to death at football games. Saddam no longer wages genocide on the Iraqi Kurds. Saddam murdered far more Iraqis in the 1990s than have died since 2003, but nobody cared about that then.

Maybe the world seems unipolar because other civilized nations sit on their butts and do nothing while preening their moral vanity.

J. Bass, Santa Barbara, California, USA

Huh? "any alliance that can act as a counter balance to US/neocon global strategy can only be welcomed..."

Like the gentle humanitarianism of Khomeini and Kim Jong Il for instance?

Hating the US has become an epidemic, a sickness of the soul.

joe blough, NY, USA

Hopefully, this triad of world powers, India, China, Russia, will put an end to the USA- Israel versus the world (or whomever gets in their way) attitude that is further isolating these two proud countries from the rest of the world. For examples of the aforementioned, see Jimmy Carter's new courageous book, Palestine Peace Not Apartheid, or just turn on BBC.

Chris, Miami, USA

To paraphrase Winston Churchill: you, and the rest of the world, sleep soundly in your beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do you harm.

When the jihadis turn their bomb sights on you, will you bring them to the negotiation table a sign away your sovereignty?

Kelvin, Knoxville, TN, USA

Exactly what sort of person would see near-despotic regimes as a "counter balance" to the US? Perhaps if some of our "allies" would use their hands to support us rather than simply to pick our pockets we wouldn't need to go it alone. America has been--and always will be--the major beacon of freedom and democracy in the world. Make no mistake about it, Mr. Sullivan, our government is inextricably connected to our people and you can not attack the former without antagonizing the latter. We will resolve our own issues as best advances the safety of our people and the security of our way of life. We have always seen the British as our cousins in these efforts. But perhaps it is time for you to step up and address your own issues before pointing a finger at us and supporting nations like China and Russia as "counter balances" to the U.S. Shame on you, Mr. Sullivan.

John Hess, Martinsville, NJ, USA

31st jan.2007.

it is very important to realize and understand the trickery of the english race in manipulating usa to wage wars on behalf of britain which gains most from iraq war and anywar that usa imposes on the third world and even on europe.

here are some of the writings done years ago to give a global picture of what is REALLY happening in the world and by WHOSE agency.
please read thse if u get some time
thanks

avatar singh, kolkatta, india

Here we go again, blame the US first!

Ray Martinez, Greenbelt, USA/MD

The idea of these countries talking about forming a alliance to promote a more democratic world is not only laughable but in a big way dangerous for those who believe it. For those who do believe it have you looked at China and Russia lately. Does either country give any indication of being democraticaly inclined.

Jim, Reno, NV, US

Bush is leading the amerikan sheeple right over the cliff into oblivion...when will the ignorant & arrogant sheeple awaken to their dangerrous plight..?

Mike Javick, lima, mt usa

The world is rapidly getting smaller. How far can it go before all hell breaks loose? There are too many ethnocentrices involved for a peaceful evolution. It's just a matter of time and one nut with a nuke.

J.Frazer, Vancleave, USA/Mississippi

Does anyone see the irony in China and Russia meeting to discuss a Democratic “multipolar world”? This is hysterical

Steve, Little Rock, USA

this is the consequences of having an idiot for a president...
how can he communicate with international leaders when he can't even speak proper english.

john smith, new york, ny

I'm a moderate Republican here in the states, and I am hopeful of a prospect for another world power. With the US as the lone superpower, all the attention, good or bad, lands on us. We carry a heavy burden across many interests, and yet as the only big guy on the block, all the negative backlash comes on us alone. Life is all about balance, and right now in the world there is simply not enough of a balance. The US will only benefit from an alliance such as this.

Chris Kennedy, Louisville, KY, USA

The George Bush administration acts completely on its accord. Unfortunately, his crafty and genius political architect Karl Rove duped American voters into supporting George and Co. not once but twice (not myself, but many others). This administration absolutely does not care about what the American people think or want; only itself. E.g. In November, voters elect a Democratic majority in Congress to show their opposition to the quagmire in Iraq, and George escalates it. Baffling.

Unfortunately, it seems that Americans will have to wait until Jan. 2009 before we can even begin the healing process. Please don't hold it against us, international community, most of us don't approve of George and his cronies.

Ryan, Dallas, TX, USA

This is just more proof that The Soviet Comunist regime never fell it just went under ground. President Bush needs to put a Trade Embargo on China and Russia until they stop undermining freedom loving nations and supplying arms to terroist countrys.

Luke, Dertoit,

To Kevin S.
Yeah, until you need help saving your butts from the next rogue government that threatens your borders. And that time will come. Remember if not for good 'ol Uncle Sam, you'd be speaking German or Russian today.

Pancho K, San Antonio, USA, TX

Interesting...all three are against "outside interference" in Chechnya, NE India (and Kashmir..I'm sure) and Xingiang. But, what "outside" force is "interferring" in all of these places? ... radical Islamists, not the USA. And who is the only real force opposing the world agenda of the radical Islamists? You are right, it is the USA. It sounds as if these people have conflicting needs that are far more perplexing than the use of US power. And Mr. Sullivan, please tell us... what is it about Sadaam Hussain and the Taleban that you admire so much that you wish them to still be in power in Iraq and Afganistan?

Jack Williams, New Orleans, LA

I think it's wonderful to have these three countries desire to take a leadership role in world affairs. Next step? Devote as much cash and effort as the US does in foreign aid and numerous other good works that the media and world opinion tends to ignore.
Let's measure these "Giants" on how compassionate and giving their societies are, not by their population, nuclear weapons and economies.

Bill, Charlotte, NC

Do you people not see the danger in this. Are you all a bunch of Socialists that want to give your freedoms over to these tyranical governments. What a bunch of idoits! Tiananmen Square was only 18 years ago and the Soviet Union ended even less than that! We should be very wary of these three. I am tired of listening to the rest of the world bash the US while they sit on their hands and talk about the, highly currupt completely worthless UN doing something. Quit turning a blind eye to countries like Iran. These people hate western ideas and freedoms. They want me and you dead. They announce it on their state run television. Wake up and see what is really going on. Maybe, I'm just one of those crazy US/neocon Soldiers, but I believe in freedom.

Jeremy, Jefferson City, USA / MO

Hard to hear this coming from India which has the single biggest boost in its economy thanks to U.S. outsourcing of technology jobs, Russia which is little more than a dictaorship and China which rules its people with a brutal thought police, both of which have a long history of supplying weapons used to fight democracy the world over. To take the idea that they are some sort of saviours of common sense and rational thought and not just power hungry? I dont agree with the neocons, but these guys most particularly China and Russia are no angels and are far worse than one administration and its mishandling of Iraq. People opposed to Bush and his policies should not make a deal with the devil(s).

Joe Cortez, Los Angeles, CA

Unchecked, the U.S. has proven to be very blood thirsty, and I believe, with more time, it will only get worse. It is critical that these three powers step in, in an effort to restore diplomacy as a means of settling world disputes. Killing people cannot long be tolerated as a means of securing resources and profits for a corporate dominated culture.

Michael Carroll, Buffalo, New York

Mr Sullivan, no doubt Russia and China will show us the way to goodness and light...

Nathan McDaniel, Phoenix, USA Arizona

I find it so funny how people "hate" the US and it's foreign policy position. The same people who promote "tolerate" and "open mindedness" and the same people who label people or countries (US/neocon) with names. No one, I hear of no one, talking about Iran's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, "global strategy" of the death to the United States, death to Israel, and stating the holocaust never happened. Can we be more ignorant? I suppose Orwell was right, ignorance is strength, war is peace, and freedom is slavery. I not saying the US is perfect; it’s not; however, I do believe, at the end of the day, people are jealous of a country that got it’s act together in 200 years and still has somewhat of a moral standard to stand on that hasn’t been washed away into the horizon. Excuse me for defending a country to a group of terrorists that feel we or infidels for not believing in their god. I know there is a better afterlife than 72 virgins; a god who grants that is not a god of Love but only selfish desire.

Dan Baker, New York,

The US is more corrupt than China, Russia, or India? You must not have spent time in these countries as I have. Russian and Chinese
intentions of course are goodness and light. A more informed
US electorate will do far more to correct US foreign policy flaws than counter balances of two dictatorships.

Nathan McDaniel, Phoenix, Arizona, USA

Please, these three countries need first to focus on their own problems. The majority of their people live in absolute poverty and dismay. The governements need to prioritize on making life better for their people before they try to shape the rest of the world. Only the US has the money, military strength, and moral authority to attempt to spread democracy. The UN is not the answer, they fail at everything they do.

David , ocean city, USA, Maryland

I would love for the rest of the world to step up. I eagerly await the day that the US pulls all its troops back, closes its borders, and lets the rest of the world deal with its own issues. Nowadays the US is damned if we do and damned if we don't. I didn't hear anyone crying about negotiations during World War 2. If Europe and the rest of the world powers want to step up to the plate, be our guest. I would love to pay less taxes and stop funding operations in other countries that do not benefit me. Don't come crying to us when Russia cuts off your nation's gas supply and suicide bombers are detonating nukes in the back of box trucks.

Chris, New Jersey, USA

Replace Germany with Russia, Japan with China and Italy with India......a new Axis. All three have territorial ambitions and two of the three are led by little more than civilized thugs. Yes the US is sooooo evil....bringing democracy to where there was once brutal dictatorship needs to be counter balanced indeed. Warts and all, the world is lucky the US won the cold war and would be just as lucky that the new Axis doesn't prevail going forward.

Dave, Newark, DE

Three comments to this article and to Kevin Sullivan's response:

1) The US needs to continue to strengthen our ties to India and Japan, who are natural counterweights to China in Asia.

2) The US needs to realize that Russia has recovered from the collapse of the Soviet Union, is now run by a dictator, and desires to return to a superpower position.

3) China will go to war over oil, and will stop at nothing to ensure that its oil supply is strong.

4) In response to Kevin Sullivan's post, does he really think that it is in England's best interest to have Russia and China running the world? Its amazing how weak Europe's stomach has become since WWII ended, its as if all their brave men died in the conflict. I expect such a response from the French, but not the English or Germans.

Scott Buckhout, Poughkeepsie, New York

Next time we'll make a deal instead of pulling Europe's chestnuts out of the fire. From the looks of it that deal will be made sooner rather than later once the Democracies of China, Russia, and India dance together. It's about time America thinks of itself first.

fred, anytown, USA

And if not for the US the rest of the world would be living under some sort of dictator. Remember the treasure that was spent and the blood that was shed in order to free Europe. No need to thank us, because I know you dont care. Yet when the world needs help, America is always the first to help.

Pete, Massapequa, NY

India is the largest democracy in the world and it depends on Western technologies and the Western market. I think Indian leaders are wise enough to never join any alliance against the US. On the other hand, what we see is the Bush admistration has it back against the wall. It's high time America revised its foreign policy.

cyberstranger, Moscow,

I find it very interesting that we are supposed to believe that Russia and China want a more democratic and multipolar world. Russia who is in the process of renationalizing industry, squelching freedom of the press and speech, and assassinating opponents of government policy. China is there enough space to point out how undemocratic the authoritarian communist regime is? Everything is restricted in China, freedom of the press and speech are non-existent, along with freedom of religion. You mean to tell me what you would rather China and Russia have more power on this planet? I wonder if you will still feel the same way when China steam rolls over Taiwan and Russia moves to reclaim the satellite states that it lost after the end of the cold war? Bash on America all you want my British friend, because we'll still come to your aid again when the time comes.

Jon, Washington D.C., United States of America

Well it seems that there is alot of American bashing going around these days. Anytime a country needs aid they put their hand out to America. When they are being invaded by their neighbors they ask America for help. We give more foreign aid than any other country in the world. times Should change. America should cut off all foreign aid bring all our troops home from all overseas assignments withdraw our 30% of the U.N budget we pay and force the move of the U.N off U.S. soil. You people that bash America why don't you imagine that world

Steve, Dothan, America

US/neocon 'corruption' is the only counter balance to the limp wristed, milquetoast approach being offered up by the likes of Kevin. If my memory serves, an outstanding statesman by the name of Winston Churchhill had to take a stand against the growing threat of Nazi Germany. It is regretful that a nation forged in the fire is so quit to forget that evil people do not desire peace. Russia & China in particular only care about making sure their energy resources are secure, not giving any mind to the fact that ideologies like Iran's are bent on destruction. If negotiation doesn't work, then what? Wait for all hell to break loose?

GR Henry, Birmingham, USA

That's great news. Now we just need the US to listen to LaRouche and join the three in opposing globalization and defend the sovereign nation state. Then we could have a global agenda of peace and economic development instead of looting and war.

Tom Gillesberg, Copenhagen, Denmark

Kevin, you and Nevil Chamberlain have it right on the mark. Lets just wait and instead of having 3,000 dead we can do like WWII and lose 30 million. Or learn to speak Arabic, put our women in lines to be "circumcised", and start Burka production. I suspect you are Godless anyway, and THAT the Moslems CAN deal with effectively (if not lovingly).

Richard Wilson, Houston, USA/Texas

oh, yeah, we'd be MUCH better living under the utopic societys of Russia or China with gulags and Tiennemen Square.

Clint, cocoa, fl, usa

Mr. Sullivan couldn't possibly be a reasonable Brit or American.

asdf, asdf, asdf

Some nerve the USA, bulging economy, low,low, unemployment,all time high stock market,

And we should be worried about socialist contries opinions, why ??????

ken dean, st aug, florida,32092

It is absurd to claim that an alliance that inlcudes Red China and chekist Putin would make the world more “democratic.” This is no more credible than the Soviets’ claims that they were the “democratic” side in the Cold War--“democratic centralism” has nothing to do with democracy as it is known in the West.

The so-called US world order is a world of countries governed by constitutional democracies with an economic system based on free trade. This is the formula for world peace, so why do these countries feel the need to oppose it?

William Woodford, Little Rock, Arkansas, USA

This article has so much spin it is unbelievable. So let me get this straight Mr. Page; Russia sells nuke technology but it doesn't want Iran armed. Ok, that makes sense. It is obvious these so called journalists only report the facts that fit their agenda while ignoring the ones that contradict their views. How about some unbiased reporting for a change?

Matt, Tampa, FL,

China and Russia have the potential to be great economic powers, but they must become free Decomcracies as opposed to dictatorships.

L. Borne, Central, Florida, USA

Boy, am I tired of whiny, chickenhearted fools.The war in Iraq is difficult. Can you imagine? There are people there (the bad guys) who actually oppose what we are there for. Maybe it has to do with oil interests, but protecting those interests is important to the whole western bolc, not just the US.
Giving the Iraqis the option for democracy is a good thing. Who else is willing to do this? India? China? Russia? Not likely.
Here's a fact. If the US succeeds in Iraq, the Democrats lose big time. They are out of power for years. They cannot afford to let us succeed there. Now do you understand why they are attacking this war so eagerly?

Dirck Brendlinger, Richmond, VA

Happily, I think you're quite wrong, in those countries there are less and less people getting hanged drawn and quartered for having a political ideal that doesnt coincide with their nation. But in the States you have Guantanamo Bay, and NSA and other acronym-ridden organsiations that exist as shadows... Your call who I'll be backing!

ted, perth, asutralia

It is the "Grand Game" of the European powers of 100 years ago. Just new players. Interesting to note that the primary "area of agreement" references regions in the respective countries where the real issue is radical Islam. Further, it would be pure humor, if the issue were not so serious; the comment that all three countries do not want a "nuclear-armed" Iran. Their actions, along with those of a few other nations belie the truth.

John, Seattle, Washington

This is wonderful news. Amererica welcomes India, China, and Russis to step forward and begin spending their Human and Monetary resources to make the world safe from terrorist and poverty. Perhaps they could start by replacing ALL American/Ntio troops in Afghanistan..STOPPING Iran from developing nuclear....and providing billion of dollars of Aid in Africa.

Larry , Atlanta, USA

A few points:

-I believe any American with a right mind would agree with such a step to create a more balanced international community.
-taking on the world's most pressing issues is too tough for one nation (the United States) to go it alone no matter how historically great we are.
-with daily analysis taken from unbiased media outlets, one can conclude Putin and Ahmadinejad, in fact, are in bed with each other more so than many realize.
-GOD Bless America

JohnL, Tucson, Arizona

Who cares what Russia, China, and India say. They talk about solving problems but what problems have they ever solved. India cant solve the Kashmir dispute, russia cant take care of the chechyans and China is a closed oppresive regime who cant deal with taiwan. Just because the Iraq war isnt going well all of sudden the US is a power hungry, out of control country. George bush was faced with a problem and instead of following 40 years of failed middle east policy he tried something different.
Iraq might be in chaos but what country in the middle east would you use a model for what iraq should be?

David, Rockville Centre, USA/NY

Russia and China are both paragons of democracy aren't they? I mean they have complete freedom of speech, religion, and the press in both countries right? Neither of them have ever forcefully nationalized private industry at all have they?

We should listen to them both, because it is obvious by how they manage their own political processes that they are serious about creating a more democratic world.

Grudge, Washington D.C., USA

Just remember - the majority of the United States citizens are not out for world domination.

Gii Gadduah, Hajje, KS

Long term, I have been expecting Russia and its political allies to officially challenge Zionism, the most powerful influence in the world, specifically in the United States and Europe. This news article is good news for those wishing such a move. Personally I think that Zionism is doomed to failure, but before its funeral, many millions of people will be sacrificed to its alter. Ironic that in the end result, when all that is hidden has been revealed, a true holocaust could result. Ironic that the former Soviet Union and communist China could be the saviors of the West. Lord Jesus does work in mysterious ways.
Kent - Lubbock Texas

Kent, Lubbock, Texas

Kevin,

That certainly worked out well when Germany, Italy, and Japan worked together. The same crowd begging for US isolation today may be begging for US intervention tomorrow.

Roger, Brisbane, Australia

Kevin...

"...any alliance that can act as a counter balance to US/neocon global strategy can only be welcomed"?

And one day... when these "giants" are invading your country ...
Who will you run to to bail you out... again?

Patricia, Tampa, FL, USA

Global Pacific Alliance GPA which includes
China, India, Russia, Korea, Mongolia, as well as
Former Soviet Asian republics, as well as France and Germany
(with a possibility for associated membership of some countries in Africa and South America) has been discussed for quite a while and now is closer every day. The alliance accounts for 80% of the world economy, not 40% as the Rupert Murdoch's press would like it to report. The core of this alliance of course is China - Russia - India - France - Germany which has been already formed. There is opinion among some diplomats, that the unstable and unpredictable foreign politics of the US and their client states,
make it necessary for the GPA to take a greater role in a global defence development to protect Europe and Asia from the unpredictable and expansionist policy of the US.

R. Husselhopf, Uberamergau ,

Russia, China, and India are all equivalent to rebellious teenagers. They now want to lead the world, but have never led anything on the world stage that is considered noble or for the good for humanity. (In fact, 2 out of the 3 are quite the opposite). They should come back later when they have grown up, learned responsibility, and can clean their own room.

Sam, Kansas City, MO

Phil is right. In addition, despite numerous flaws, the US has built an enduring freedom and a system that has stood up to many historical challenges.

It is analogous to the user and the developer: the user of computing devices is touted by the media as being so technically savvy - when it is actually the developer who built the system who is the savvy one! Almost anyone can be a user. Big deal.

These countries are riding on the coattails of the nations (including, of course, the UK) which developed technology and free markets, etc. - and using the money they generate from the US to do it! And the US continues to allow a most unfavorable trade balance that is a result of China's unfair trade practices with the US and its prejudicial monetary policy.

See what the globalists get!

pat, dc, us

Well Kevin, when you need someone to save Great Britain again, maybe the US won't have the strength to help. Let's see, maybe Putin will come to your rescue. Or will he be the invader?

Jim, Minnesota, USA

..A more democratic "multipolar world".? Chinese and Russians "democratic"?. That's a joke. Everyone's worried about Uncle Sam. They same Uncle Sam who saved the Euro's from destroying themselves (twice) and helped rebuild them, provided armed forces where then the euro's could build their bloated socialist systems. You folks are a funny lot. A country half a world away worries you so much. A country that never started the conflagrations you folks have in your resumes, never had colonial empires. You have a zero, or negative, native population growth, bloated welfare societies, and the utter inability, and unwillingness, to defend yourselves. 20-30 years from now your societies will be unrecognizeable. The U.S. will continue to lead the world in innovation, wealth, strength, and determination. Central and Eastern Europe will start to surpass you, and you can lament over former glory as you walk to the mosque. Ever wonder how a country that's been around for only 250 years leads the world?

Stephen , NY, USA,

I have no problem with countries that want to work together to ensure that all peaceful means are utilized to solve issues such as Iran. However, I have a big problem with those who use the disguise of peaceful intentions in order to profit. Iraq's "Oil for Food" program was an example of just that. Two countries that used this United Nations program for profit was Russia and France who also were, and still are the biggest critics of the Iraq war. Russia is pushing for a stronger United Nations because they know they can make huge profits even if it means the inhumane suffering of millions of people such as the people of Iraq.

Michael, St. Petersburg, USA/FLorida

More Anti-American jealousy brewing to somehow make their own nations feel significant in world matters. The US is not only the most caring and giving nation in the history of mankind, they are the most properous and powerful, all stemming from their love of freedom, liberty and self-reliancy...rooted in Christ. So stop US hating, you jealous winers and stand up and cheer, because those that gain from US strength and success is the world itself.

Darryl Douglass, Atanta, Ga, US

This is an interesting spin on this development. They say the following:

"The subtext, however, was clear: how to use their growing economic and political muscle to prevent Washington from tackling such issues alone."

I welcome the interest of other nations to actively engage in more than just political blather as it applies to the big issues of the day. Talk is one thing - but any type of commitment to back up that talk (this does not just mean militarily) has been severely lacking from anyone besides the US. Saying they support a strong UN appears to be more of the same - just talk......as the UN is committed to no-action. Even their guiding principles on the big issues of the day would be welcome.

Take a stand on something ..... anything .... and provide a leadership vision on that stand and then we will know that perhaps this is something to be excited about.

Bob Lussier, Atlanta, GA

As a U.S. citizen I welcome the country having to follow international law and abide by the U.N.'s decisions. I'm tired of being imprecated by an irritated globe for living in a misbehaving country. It benefits the people of the United States for our nation's actions to in some way reflect the ideologies of its citizenry, as it is now falsely assumed to be. But then, wasn't it a certain propaganda minister from the 3rd reich purportedly saying that the people can always be made to support their leadership's decisions creating the appearance of popular consent?

Matt Norris, West Springfield, USA

I'm with Russia, China and India. A nuclear Tehran sounds like a great idea.

It's nice to know that Russia, China and India have the world's best interest at heart and oil is not the main issue!

Craig, mechanicsburg, USA/PA

How narrow minded you European think we Americans are.....but in fact, it is you who are narrow and short minded. Let's not forget the not so long ago history of both Russia and China. Not to mention what Russia, India & China are doing to their own people in order to advance their agendas.

Mike Hunt, New York, NY

In a World, Where All think Alike No One Thinks Very Much!

Lisa Saims, Charlotte, North Carolina

For my part MrSullivan any world were the U.S. has more say is welcome world, since what you are able to say is in great part due to the U.S. promotion of freedom in the world....I am not so sure that in Russia or China you would be able to critize Mr. Hu or Mr. Putin so cavallierly.

Lupe Smit, Miami, Florida

we are in the middle east for western oil companies. bring our soldiers home now. get out of afghanastan as well.

david, gobles, mi

Gog and Magog... it's all in the Bible...

Sergio Sanguinetti, Vina del Mar, Chile

Both Russia & China's institutions and infrastructure are built upon shifting sands. Most people in Russia & China are poor - in China 750-800 million of them! Russia remains a secret, thuggish society. Although poor too, only India has the appearance/ability of a stable society that may naturally cope with the demands of the 21st century.

Phil, Preston,

Thats great of them, we need less U.S and more U.N. the iraq war was neccessary, but botched, it removed a strongarm dictator, but has its major flaws. What would happen if the big three turned to the U.S. and said...well we'll disarm all our nukes, dispose of them safely and encourage others to do so, would the U.S. agree...i think not. A more multi polar world is what is needed, with trade alliances instead of boycotts, peace treaties instead of armed responce. BUT the instability in the middle east will never allow this, wasnt it a month or so ago when Israel was threatening to unleash tactical nuclear warheads on Iran, holy wars and people who userp their "faith" for violence cause the problems the U.S. is trying to tackle...fair play to the three for saying "wait a minute, let us have our say" hopfully this can only be a good thing. Let us not find distrust because of our past. The cold war is over...

Dave Bowyer, Worcester,

Bush and the neocons are living proof of the adage, 'power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely' any alliance that can act as a counter balance to US/neocon global strategy can only be welcomed, and will serve notice on the US hat it cannot act with impunity.

Kevin Sullivan, London, London

Cold war - mark 2.

tony dummelow, birmingham, uk

This is the start of the end. The bible predicts a army of 200 million. And that is only possible through the worlds most populated countries, i.e Russia, China, India, even Pakistan. I think we all should take great caution when even thinking of their allience. But dont fear, for we have Jesus Christ, and should i set out to seek him before its to late.

Jon Don, Sunshine Coast, Australia

oceania, eastasia....you know where this is going...

how many millions have been freed by these three?
how many millions have been allowed a say in their government EVER?!!

Where are they when the taliban blew down the bhuddas?

How many fingers have they lifted to defy islamofascism?

which of their countries would your rather live in instead of anchorage or coventry or san diego? why?

instead of meeting to discuss the opening of their societies and the betterment of mankind, they really think that its about "countering the US"?!!

you ringkissers deserve marxism...

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