Sarah Baxter, Washington
2 for 1 tickets to Casablanca, this coming Monday
DISILLUSIONED supporters of President George W Bush are defecting to Barack Obama, the Democratic senator for Illinois, as the White House candidate with the best chance of uniting a divided nation.
Tom Bernstein went to Yale University with Bush and co-owned the Texas Rangers baseball team with him. In 2004 he donated the maximum $2,000 to the president’s reelection campaign and gave $50,000 to the Republican National Committee. This year he is switching his support to Obama. He is one of many former Bush admirers who find the Democrat newcomer appealing.
Matthew Dowd, Bush’s chief campaign strategist in 2004, announced last month that he was disillusioned with the war in Iraq and the president’s “my way or the highway” style of leadership – the first member of Bush’s inner circle to denounce the leader’s performance in office.
Although Dowd has yet to endorse a candidate, he said the only one he liked was Obama. “I think we should design campaigns that appeal, not to 51% of the people, but bring the country together as a whole,” Dowd said.
Bernstein is a champion of human rights, who admires Obama’s call for action on Darfur, while Dowd’s opposition to the war has been sharpened by the expected deployment to Iraq of his son, an Arabic-speaking Army intelligence specialist.
But last week a surprising new name joined the chorus of praise for the antiwar Obama – that of Robert Kagan, a leading neoconservative and co-founder of the Project for the New American Century in the late 1990s, which called for the overthrow of Saddam Hussein.
Kagan is an informal foreign policy adviser to the Republican senator John McCain, who remains the favoured neoconservative choice for the White House because of his backing for the troops in Iraq.
But in an article in the Washington Post, Kagan wrote approvingly that a keynote speech by
Obama at the Chicago Council on Global Affairs was “pure John Kennedy”, a neocon hero of the cold war.
In his speech, Obama called for an increase in defence spending and an extra 65,000 soldiers and 27,000 marines to “stay on the offense” against terrorism and ensure America had “the strongest, best-equipped military in the world”. He talked about building democracies, stopping weapons of mass destruction and the right to take unilateral action to protect US “vital interests” if necessary, as well as the importance of building alliances.
“Personally, I liked it,” Kagan wrote.
Disagreements on the war have not stopped John Martin, a Navy reservist and founder of the website Republicans for Obama, from supporting the antiwar senator. He joined the military after the Iraq war and is about to be deployed to Afghanistan.
“I disagree with Obama on the war but I don’t think it is a test of his patriotism,” Martin says. “Obama has a message of hope for the country.”
Financiers have also been oiling Obama’s campaign. In Chicago, his home town, John Canning, a “Bush pioneer” and investment banker who pledged to raise $100,000 for the president in 2004, has given up on the Republicans. “I know lots of my friends in this business are disenchanted and are definitely looking for something different,” he said.
Not to be outdone, Hillary Clinton has many Republican defectors of her own, including John Mack, chief executive of Morgan Stanley, who helped raise $200,000 for the president’s reelection, qualifying him as a “Bush ranger”. He said last week that he was impressed by Clinton’s expertise. “I know we’re associated mainly with the Republicans but we’ve always gone for the individual,” Mack said.
According to figures compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics in Washington, Obama and Clinton have vacuumed up more than $750,000 (£375,000) in individual contributions from former Bush donors.
Some of the donations reflect the natural tendency of those with power to shift to the likely White House winner. Penny Pritzker, the staggeringly successful head of fundraising for Obama, voted for John Kerry, the 2004 Democratic candidate, but also donated that year to Bush. As she was a head of the family-run Hyatt hotel chain, it was considered a prudent move.
With the Democrats widely expected to win in 2008, Clinton’s status as frontrunner is encouraging Wall Street money to migrate to her, while Obama may be picking up some mischievous “Stop Hillary” donations from still-loyal Republicans. But there is plenty of genuine enthusiasm to go around.
A poll released by Rasmussen last week showed Obama overtaking Clinton for the first time by 32% to 30%, although another poll by Quinnepiac showed her with a 14-point lead over the Illinois senator, her nearest rival.
The current issue of the New Yorker contains a profile of Obama, which highlights his appeal to conservatives.
For his optimism about the future, Obama has been dubbed the “black Ronald Reagan”. He frequently challenges the black community to support two-parent families and encourage school students, instead of criticising them for “acting white”.
Barack Obama's campaign is about the future, not only of our children and grandchildren, but of the United States of America and the world. This man is a developing statesman and gifted leader. He is striaght forward and is running to bring us together. However, it is up to us to step up. Remember, "in a democracy we get the government we deserve." We must help save ourselves and our republic. The world is watching and hoping too. Let;s each do our part to elect Barack Obama.
Doug Cunningham, Brockport, New york
Dear Sarah,
I'm an independent thinker and native of Maine now living in The Netherlands. The Dutch overwhelmingly favor Obama's
candidacy for President of the U.S. They see him as a genuine,
honest, gifted person who will breath new life , grace, and balanced perspectives in our tired, nasty system of politics.
As for myself, I simply disagree with Hillary's contrived ridicule of Obama's message of HOPE as a meaningless slogan. On the contrary, his message of HOPE is a challenge to not cynically give up on coming together on some really serious problems before us.
HOPE is recognizing the urgent need to correct some systemic flaws in our social-economic model. This means striving for a more intelligent, civil dialogue; to more constructively argue, compare alternatives, judge, compromise, create new ideas and strengthen old ideas. All this to remove us from the precipice of erodiing financial stability, divisive social stratification, and loss of world respect.
Frank Thomas, The Hague, The Netherlands
It was with the greatest sense of pride and enthusiasm, when as an 18 years old, I supported, campaigned and cast my first vote for Ronald Regan. Since then I have voted Republican in every Presidential election, state wide election and nearly all local elections. I would never have imagined that the day would come when I would be without a Regan Republican for whom to cast my vote. George Bush killed Regan Republicanism.
I agree with the sentiment that Senator Obama is the "black Ronald Regan." I regret that the Republican party, under the leadership of George Bush, has abandoned the principals of Ronald Regan. When Senator Obama is taking the Oath of Office as the President of the United States, he will have been elected with the aid of my vote.
Robert, Cambridge, MA
I agree with the above comment. I'm also in favor of Ron Paul, but since he has no chance, I think Obama is the next best choice. I appreciate the fact that he wants to increase the transparency of the federal government. He seems like the candidate who is most likely to unify the nation rather than further divide it. I'm a bit skeptical about his promise to improve the "fairness" of the federal income tax, but I'm willing to give him my vote and support.
James, Knoxville,
Another college-educated, pro-Constitution Republican for OBAMA. I know many of you are afraid of what is outside the crab bucket, but I assure you, there is a country waiting for you that honors the Constitution, families, and SMART government instead of big government. We'll be here for you even after January 20, 2009, to help you with the transition.
R Tracewell, Findlay, Ohio
It's quite clear with the large conservative votes going to huckabee that the conservatives will cross party lines with a McCain nomination. One must consider the only thing that will unify that wing of the party is a Clinton nomination. Obama has a clear advantage with independents as well as McCain over Hillary. Obama vs. McCain will be an interesting election. Hillary vs. McCain is a sure defeat for the republicans. Can we really afford to let the Bush policies continue? Wake up people! Hillary will not win the general election.
jake, Phoenix , AZ
i'd love to see Ron Paul on the ticket as a republican, but since there's not a chance of that, i'm going to vote for obama. Crazy? maybe, but even though i know he is very liberal, he strikes me as a uniter, and will actually listen to both parties to assess what needs to be done. besides, what president has been able to accomplish his "promises" anyway? the opposing congress and senate see to that.
irisheve, portland,
Ron Paul may be your hero, but he has enough money to not need his pension or government funded college loans. You try shunning a college loan to advance yourself while working minimum wage at a library.
Pat, Atlanta,
I once thought that Obama might be that "shining light" that this country has not seen in nearly a half century. This impression came to me following his speech before the Democratic National Convention in 2004. Wow! I thought, not really knowing much about him, or politics either for that matter, at the time. Another JFK! But, now I am totally convinced by looking at the facts of his record and his political connections that this was a staged production. It was orchestrated to attract the masses who will not look behind the veneer of the man who has become the latest "Super Hero" to save the world. Never fear, "SUPERBAMBI" is here!!!
Likkerish, Honolulu, Hawaii, USA
John of Stevens Point, WI wrote:
"If there was a republican who was principled, and actually practiced fiscal responsibility and tried to get the government out of our personal lives...I would vote for him in a heartbeat."
John, have you not heard of Congressman Ron Paul??? He is the epitome of a principled legislator, having maintained his values to the point of voting alone at times throughout his twenty years in Congress. He voted against the war. He voted against the Patriot Act, when others were voting for it without even reading it.
He is the most fiscally candidate that you will find. And his primary message is that of individual freedom and liberty which requires getting the government out of our personal lives across the board. And, further, he practices what he preaches. He would not allow his children to accept government loans for college. He refuses to take a government pension. And, he returns a portion of his congressional office budget every year.
Alan, Honolulu, Hawaii, USA
Anyone who thinks Barak Obama will herald a significant change in politics-as-usual is buying into the washington shell game. Read the article again. Barama supports aggression, a war crime, in pursuit of US 'national interests'. Why do you still trust the washington elite to define your national interests? Iraq never was a military threat to the united states, yet US destruction of that country has only served to keep its oil offline until the multinationals can pump the sweet oil out at $100+/barrel profit. Invading Afghanistan didn't profit the US but instead restarted the flood of heroin worldwide.
And we are not to worry at the prospect of this spineless juvenile holding his finger over the button of the world's largest nuclear arsenal because he's assured us "I'm not planning to nuke anyone *right now*?"
Democrats, republicans and independents please consider *very carefully* this time what you believe in, and who you are willing to trust.
Benjamin Shapiro, Giessen,
What no one understand here is that Bush has failed miserably. You, as President, are not only held accountable for your intentions, but your ability to execute. What we're seeing is a Senator who is willing to go bi-partisan on issues. People like that.
That is what's wrong with politics today. It's all negative and nothing gets accomplished. We need someone who can unite everyone to just get something done.
And as for Iraq and Dar fur, Dar fur was much more important to get to. If you want to go after Islamic militancy, go to Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Afghanistan....Iraq was the least of the concerns in the Middle East...yet it's where we base the war. Had a lot of oil though...hmnnnn. And Govt, do some history on the Sunni and Shi'ite conflict before you take down a regime with no plans for after. You created chaos and exposed the civil war.
Obama is hope for a new kind of politics. Change is necessary.
Ryan, Madison, Wisconsin
I don't understand why everyone is getting riled-up about this article. If there was a republican who was principled, and actually practiced fiscal responsibility and tried to get the government out of our personal lives (as opposed to the gay marriage amendment proposed by the current administration, for example) I would vote for him in a heartbeat. I sure wouldn't want to reward the GOP after they cherry-picked Bush over a then-more principled John McCain after the 2000 primaries by voting for their candidate again anytime soon. Obama is a charasmatic voice of reason and principle in this campaign, and his detractors can only spout-off catchphrases like "he's a flipflopper like the rest of them demmy-crats". After the calamity of the Bush adminsitration (one of the most divisive in history), a well-spoken, honest, and charasmatic candidate is a breath of fresh air.
John, Stevens Point, WI
Three reasons to support Obama [1] A Democratic president will increase the liklihood of a Republican congress; [2] A new tone for American blacks; [3] His last name is not Clinton or Bush. I'll still vote Republican, but I won't mind if Obama wins.
Maria, Columbia, USA/SC
I'm amazed that some Republicans are suggested that Hillary is a harder general election opponent than Obama. One of the reasons why I think this is guy is going all the way is because he incites so much whistling passed the graveyward by both Hillary's people AND Republicans.
Chris McDonald, New York,
This is the most disingenuous article I have ever read - the idea that a couple of Republicans who say they like Obama, (one didn't even endorse him!) constitutes a movement ? This is a not even veiled attempt to create some momentum for Obama, who still trails even H. Clinton in the polls for the Demo nomination. Perhaps we should check out who the writer of this tripe is supporting for president !!
Rick, Atlanta, GA
Should Fred Thompson stand for the Presidency might not his Law and Order platform win against any other candidate?
john kidd, brisbane, australia
AJ Pecqueur, Clayton, GA: "Just on the Darfur point alone it shows the typical left - liberal slant: only use the military where we have zero national interest. The left, like Obama, hate any military action that we get involved in due to national interests."
I must admit to being curious, AJ. How was destabilising Iraq, virtually handing it over to Iran on a silver platter and generating a debt large enough for your grandkids to still be paying off in the national interest? I can't see it myself.
Dan, Hampton, UK
Hey Dan- Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton.... You're the people who are creating the nightmare. Time for a change. Anyone, liberal or conservative, besides Clinton/Obama in '08, please.
Wayne , HOUSTON, TEXAS
any republican money that comes his way this early is purely to stop hillary. And 'Democrats widely expected to win in 2008', give me a break. Their candidates are so week that this will be only the second time in history that a party will retain power after a two term president. it happened with bussh after regan because the dems were so week
Walt, Ithaca, NY
cute article about nothing...RHINO's have always have hedged thier bet. There isnt an ice cubes chance in hell that Obama could win. Obama is the Paris Hilton of politics - a nobody. On the other hand Colin Powell was a true conservative, although conservative light. If there were an opportunity for an African American president it was Powell. I love it that companies are tossing in millions for Dems based on the front runner status. Good Luck, ah la John Kerry and Al Gore - they all looked great right up to the General Elections.
Keith, Virginia Beach, VA
AJ Pecqueur, Clayton, GA: "Just on the Darfur point alone it shows the typical left - liberal slant: only use the military where we have zero national interest. The left, like Obama, hate any military action that we get involved in due to national interests."
I must admit to being curious, AJ. How was destabilising Iraq, virtually handing it over to Iran on a silver platter and generating a debt large enough for your grandkids to still be paying off in the national interest? I can't see it myself.
Dan, Hampton, UK
Naturally Republicans are restless. The Bush administration blew their chance with lies, bad faith and monstrous incompetence, and the majority of conservatives I know feel betrayed. It will take a generation to fix, and no Reaganesque conciliator can tell them what they want to hear because the reality is so disturbing. Some will cross over, the rest will sit back while Dems try to clean up after them and come back 4 years later and blame Dems for everything again.
Mike, Pittsburgh,
Anyone ever heard of "Reagan Democrats"? Are those people "real" Democrats?
Of the Republicans on this Forum say "yes" then the "Obama Republicans" are also "real" Republicans.
Inna, Sacramento,
If I didn't know that Obama voted the straight liberal Democrate line, I might believe all the hoopla. Just on the Darfur point alone it shows the typical left - liberal slant: only use the military where we have zero national interest. The left, like Obama, hate any military action that we get involved in due to national interests.
Bush's failings should not lead to a national suicide pact to vote in a very very liberal guy, regardless of his campaign slogans, most of which seem to go against his liberal voting record.
Real conservatives never loose sight of their heart held beliefs. I question the true conservative credentials of some of the so called conseratives noted above.
AJ Pecqueur, Clayton, GA
I voted for Bush and I tried to stick with him because I thought he was the best choice. The more I hear what Obama has to say about that I value, the more convinced I am that I will switch parties to make sure I vote in the primary too. He is the thinking mans candidate.
Rick Hendricks, Rochester, NY
Don't like what Hillary or Obama have to say? Wait a few minutes and they'll change their positions. Flip flop AND a southern accent to go with it!
Matt, Fredericksburg, USA/VA
So these former Bush supporters are going to cross over to the Obama camp? They go from Conservative to the most liberal, some think socialist, candidate? Hard to believe. Sounds to me like a conclusion based only on anecdotal evidence.
Richard, LA, California
Dream on, liberals...Obama is a light-weight with NO leadership skills. He couldn't win if EVERYBODY else backed out. History will show that Bush is and was a GREAT leader who refused to listen to polls. Look at Lincoln...hmm. Washington wasn't all that popular in England either, nor with the tories or the hessians. Dems here are fixated on Clinton's legacy, trying to ruin Bush as revenge...simple as that. They are still mad because the WOT started during Bush and not Clinton, so their guy could dig out of his impeachment. Good old Bill, the working girls friend, red nose and all. Can't blame him, if I had to look at Hillary...
charles t. sherwin, pittsboro, nc
I am surprised that Tom Bernstein, Robert Kagan, Matthew Dowd, John Martin, and others would allow disagreements with President Bush's policies to cloud their judgement. It seems strange that they would all be swayed by the mere words of a first term senator with no experience of large scale leadership or demonstration of coalition building. I suspect the motives of these men are based more on self preservation fueled by the change of power in Washington.
Mike Henry, Ft Washington, PA USA
Why is everyone getting so hysterical about this article?
God forbid someone choose to vote against party lines. After the poor performance by all the Republicans last week I can see why some people want to jump the fence?
Or did any of you actually watch the debate? Listening to post analysis doesn't count.
Michael, Los Angeles,
First of all there are PLENTY of Articulate Black men in AMerica. There are regular articulate black people in America. Plus, you seem to know nothing of the black middle class and wealthy in America. They never seem to get on TV. We have countless educators, intellectuals, activists, doctors, lawyers, scientists, philosophers, business people, artists etc. We have 2 black billionaires and several black CEOs of Fortune 500 companies. It is a small mind that only thinks of Obama as some type of anomaly. Sure blacks have some ignorant people and some poor people but so does every race. The difference is you people want to think that the poor and ignorant are the standard for blacks in America.
That said, my choice is a Hillary/ Obama ticket with her giving Edwards a position in her cabinet.
Ronald, Anytown,
Now THAT'S funny! You Brits are always good for a laugh!
Marc, Cleveland, Ohio
With the mess in Iraq and the Republican base unwilling to waver on it, people who are against the war will be more willing to vote Democrats into office. This includes much of the Independent vote. Besides, Guiliani may be pro-war but he's in many ways a liberal in a republican's body - pro-choice, pro-gay rights, etc. Obama is really liberal though and I doubt how many people are actually going to vote/campaign for him. Donating money is one thing but we'll see what actually happens next year.
Katie, Mt. Prospect, IL
So three guys jump to the Obama camp, so what it happens. There were Republicans that voted and worked with Clinton...he even had one as his Secretary of Defense. My gosh I bet even some Democrats voted for President Bush. (Naw, couldn't have happened).
Dennis K, Chicago, USA
While people still hate other people because they are politically left or right, it is nearly impossible to notice that everyone is actually on the same side. All of the candidates love the United States of America for obvious reasons, but they see different ways of making it better and that's where the political divide comes in.
I think we should vote for the most capable and consciencious person running and then run our government in different ways BY STATE with federal funding. If the "red" states want domestic wire tapping, let them have it - it will surely protect them more strongly at the expense of civil liberties. If the "blue" states want universal health care, let them have it - it's sure to be expensive as well. But running the NATION requires a president to love "red" AND "blue" states, not to pick the side with the bigger voting population and neglect the sincere voters from the other side. Obama seems like that kind of person, so he's getting my vote.
Colin, Johnson,
I am a former servicemen and never voted for Bush. Whether Obama gets elected or not one thing is definate, our political leaders need to stop catering to special interest groups and fundraisers and concentrate on the actual people. The families that have familiy members serving and dying in other parts of the world and families that are finding it harder to make ends meet are who they should be concerned with.
It also unsettles me that any canidate is receiving so much money from any company that would just as soon fire those same workers that vote for their donation receiver.
Brendan, Chicago,
Speaking as a Reagan conservative I can clearly say I do not and will not support Obama for President. O is a lib. He is for bigger government, higher taxes and a weaker military. This guy hasn't stated his presidential position on anything except he loves everybody and if he had been in Congress he would have voted not to go to Iraq. So he was willing, based on what we knew at the time, to let Sadam retain WMD and work with terrorists, that is a very strong defense position? In the democrat debate he said his response to a WMD in the US would be to make certain FEMA responded well. Strong defense?
The writer of this article might have offered a few reasons why a any conservative would support O. Nothing is stated. True conservatives generally do not feel Bush has been coonservative enough outside of reducing taxes and the war on terror. He has been weak on government spending (espansion of Medicad) & illegal immigration. We do not view McCain as a favored candidate based on Iraq.
Ray Harkins, Hamilton, Bermuda,
Personally, I say the people of the United States are ready for a fresh change in Washington and I hope Obama will be up to the task.
He will have much work to do as "King George" has really screwed the American people over.
It should be an interesting election!
Paul Aughtry, Clearwater, USA / Florida
The folks mentioned and those before them that have jumped to another political party are why the term RINO became popular. They are fleeing to support folks that with RARE exception promote issues that people that support republican positions are strongly opposed to and could never support. While it is certainly within their rights to do so, the media needs to refer to these people accurately, to wit: Republicans in name only.
Jim Roseman, Etna, CA
Yo' Mama Obama!!!
Ross, Charlestown, WV
I have been a Republican since I was old enough to vote. I voted republican in every election I've voted in, with no exceptions. Today's republican party has moved from it's roots of conservativism. True conservativism defers to the individual; preserves individual rights. I will be voting for Obama, if he makes it to the general election (I can't vote in a Democratic primary in my state). I have more than a couple long-time conservative friends who feel the same. And they have friends. This article, while not actually talking about a "larger movement" of Republicans, is actually spot on.
David, Jacksonville, FL
Personally, I think this is a fabricated story. Obama is a far, far leftist and will no way appeal to the typical Rpublican, let alone serious Bush supporters.
Jay Mason, Chicago, US
I've voted for Reagan, Bush, Dole and W (once, and only once), and I now will vote for Obama.
Numerous other attorneys in my office have similar voting records, and are doing likewise, of leaning in that direction. At this point the Republicans couldn't BUY a vote in my conservative firm.
Dennis O'Brien, Springfield, IL / USA
Thank goodness, there is some thought left in the left-soaked, brain-dead country of my birth. After the 2004 elections, I vowed never to vote again (after having NEVER missed since 1972). But maybe there is hope still. We have brain-washed our education system and the media advertises the news they want all to hear. I'll be watching America as we approach 2008. The strategy of the left to divide and conquer and then just smear defensive anger works on most of the "sheeple" in my area. Hope I like what I see, or I will just hope to outlive my retirement.
carrie rich, Hermitage PA, USA
Oh yes, let's extricate ourselves form one hellish civil war so that we may participate in the Sudanese civil war. Are you kidding me?
I'd much prefer we begin minding our own business. Trade as we need; but, stay out of their affairs.
Phil, Saint Louis, USA/MO
Baxter,
Do you even know what a neoconservative is?
And if so, could you point me to the Official NeoCon Group that...
(a) Is endorsing John McCain, or
(b) Considers JFK a hero of the Cold War?
You not of what you speak, and you've turned the term into a catch-all for "People I don't like."
Jeff, Charlottesville, VA
How foolish that the silly republican party who have shunned all forms of diplomacy have a complaint about the Democratic candidates. Why don't you guys just be quiet and let our country get back to the real business of making the USA a superpower instead of a laughing stock. The poor leadership and corrosion of our country is historic and for that the red states must now realize they have always been wrong in what the country needs. And as for Giuliani, we are so happy a "NY democrat" is running as a Republican. Mr. Obama is the future of our nation even if he doesnt win; the American people are ready for an intellectual and measured president.
Adrian Scriven , Bayonne , New Jersey
This nation is not divided. The MSM wants you to think it is. Obama is not the answer.
Steve, Romulus, MI
I believe the forgotten person in this race is New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson. He by far, is poised to outshine anyone on the Democratic side. Mr. Richardson has executive governing experience, knowledge of international affairs/diplomacy, a familiarity with the energy issue and what is needed to be successful on the national stage.
AG Kaska, West Newton, PA
Add my name to the list of former US Republicans. Obama has the eloquence and intelligence required of a true US President - he has the vision and optimism to pull this fractured nation back together after years of purposeless partisan strife.
It's worth noting that during the Cold War, the US elected a Republican President 28 out of 40 years (1953-1993) and held a Democratic Congress for 38 of those 40 years (1955-1993.) The Dems elected were hardly peaceniks - Kennedy and Johnson were Cold War Warriors, even Carter was shocked into action by the Soviets in Afghanistan in 1979.
It may be time for a reversal at home. It worked well during the last six Clinton Years (1995-2001.) Bill was free to feel the world's pain, to be our friendly Oprah-In-Chief abroad, while the Republicans at home in Congress were reasonably serious about fiscal matters.
Divided government in this country works best - certainly it lends itself to avoid corruption better than any one party rule.
Tony G., Seattle, USA
I can attest to this phenomenon.
My own mother, a conservative church-going lady voted Republican in the last three elections.
This time she is an Obama backer. That should concern Republicans. She says Bush has become arrogant and incompetent now and she wants change. She hates the war.
She introduced Obama's book, "The Audacity of Hope" to her church book club and all the ladies loved it and "felt hopeful for the first time in ages," According to my mom.
She turns 70 years-old in June.
Republicans used to call her their base.
Bob Smith, Davenport, Iowa
Dear Ms. Baxter -
Let's see - Good looking, speaks well, makes vague promises to improve harmony and social programs and has absolutely zero experience -where have we seen this combination before?
I bet you lost your bet on the French elections too.
Lokki, Dallas, U.S.A
The truth is that most people are not truly dedicated to a party even if they are registered to one. Most thoughtful Americans are independent by nature and only register as democrat or republican to be part of the process in the primaries because of the two party system. A good moderate candidate like Obama can take do more good for the country than some dense ideologue because he puts good sense first. People appreciate this.
Todd McCollum, Austin, TX
Who wrote this article, Howard Dean? A Democrat victory in 2008 is by no means assured, and the idea that conservatives are going to vote for Obama is ludicrous. Republicans lost in 2006 because the conservatives sat on their hands and just didnt go to vote. The loss of votes by Republicans did not translate into votes picked up by Democrats. After 2 years of seeing what Nancy Pelosi and her socialist colleagues really stand for I guarantee the conservatives will not sit it out in 2008.
Jim Mahoney, Allentown, PA, USA
Fred Thompson or Mitt Romney President and Vice president. Americans will not vote a Demo into office if there is even a possibility that we will be at war or the war will continue. The left is like the old French lib Party. You saw what happened to them. Even with 99%of the Press going all out for the Dems most Americans still do not want to commit suicide. At least not yet.
Dallas Jackson, Vacaville, California/USA
The new Diageo Hotline poll shows Obama receiving the best numbers any Democratic Presidential candidate in modern history has ever gotten from Republicans. Among Republican voters, Obama gets a 44% favorable/30% unfavorable rating.
On top of that, among independents he gets a 51% favorable/13% unfavorable rating, a 4-1 ratio, which is better than any major Presidential candidate has done with independents in recorded history.
The Reagan comparison is not only justified by these numbers; it may be an understatement.
It seems more and more people are starting to understand, whether on an intellectual or intuitive level, that an Obama Presidency would not only up our world standing but destroy the visceral basis for anti-Western terrorist recrutiment propaganda. The added level of national security that would result from the utter confusion in jihadist recruitment efforts would on its own dwarf anything any another President would be able to do for our national security.
Shadow, Hamden, CT
Dear TimesOnline Readers;
As an American that isn't affiliated with either the Democrats or Republicans, I assure you that the above article is wishfull thinking at best and blatant propaganda at worst.
All of this hoopla is generated only from the choir interested in a partys primary election, not the voting public as a whole. America isn't jumping out of their seats for Obama or Clinton or anybody else at this point.
All this talk about how powerfull the Internet & Grassroots support is, is simply nonsense. Remember how powerfull the Net Roots thought they were in the Joe Liberman Campaign? Well Joe Liberman won the election and the vocal net blogs all went down in flames.
Net Blogs in the U.S.A. are 0 - 2.
They couldn't defeat Joe Liberan and they couldn't elect Howard Dean.
Jim Foy, West Islip, USA, NY
This is a lot of wishful thinking crap. If Republicans are going to migrate to any Democrat, in itself a highly unlikely turn of events, it would be to Dodd or Biden. If this article is an indication of the kind of reporting not U.S.-citizens are reading, it explains a lot about the misinformations we Americans have to endure.
JE, Washington, DC, USA
The people mentioned in the article are not the rank and file members of the party, rather high powered fence sitters who will endorse the candidate they think will win thereby improving their own standing in terms of political favors.
Obama is a rookie politician who votes the party line....not exactly a free thinker. The best thing he brings to the campaign trail is his youth, his looks and the fact that he is not Hillary or Al Gore!
Obama may mature into a candidate worthy of the Presidency, but I don't think he is there yet.
Paul Morris, Centereach, NY
Does it bother anyone that Obama is warmongering like Bush? It bothers me. More soldiers and more money for an undeclared and therefor unconstitutional wars?
I want my President to follow the Constitution.
Ron Paul 2008
Don Pratt, Des Moines,
Wow, the Times online has found a "trend" in three Repubicans jumping ship. Then moves onto quoting some polls for evidence. Even the Kosmonauts are laughing at this story. Don't you guys know that Hillary is the black Ronald. Thanks for the chuckles. PS Sarah please cut back on the hydro.
Stephen, New York, New York
That is the biggest pile of BUNK I have ever read.Three or four people (who make a living in politics) flip flop, and your title your article REPUBLICANS DEFECT TO OBAMA CAMP.As if all Republicans have suddenly decided to vote for a muslum for president. "NICE TRY THOUGH" .......
Will Bevis, Florence, Al. USA
Some misinformed paranoid maniacs are still trying to claim Obama is a Muslim. The truth is he is a Christian.
Obama had two parents, one was a moderate Muslim student from Kenya ( a nation of mixed religions) and left when he was "two years old".. his mother was from Kansas and a Christian who later remarried, and who later sent Obama to his grandparents in Kansas who were individually Baptist and Methodist, and he himslef was later baptized at the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago.
Check your facts you miscreants or better yet who do you work for... Fox News, Hillary or Halliburton?
Marc, US expat in Amsterdam, Netherlands
Call me a skeptic. It would be just like the neo-con(artist)s to back Obama to retain power. They back a democrat, whom they feel would not be elected in th general election, only to have a republican elected. The new president would be a "known commodity" to them, like McCain or even Giuliani.
Bob Stephens, Dyer, USA/Indiana
Nothing kills political movements faster than inopportune wars and now the neocon movement is being smothered by a war that is not only inopportune but has become the worst policy disaster fiasco over which any president has presided. I don't know who the Republicans will run in 2008, but you won't hear them saying much about George W. Bush. There will be no more "neocon" candidates for president for a long, long time.
Steve Owens, Indianapolis, IN, USA
This article seems like a elaborate Media Goof-Joke .
Product of a hang over , perhaps?
I note not one point is stated as a fact.
Of course Republicans want Obama to win the Democrat nomination...how obvious can that be?
RUSSELL DIEHL, Irvine, Calf
This is the first time that I've come across the assertion by Obama that he would increase defense spending to 'fight terrorism.'
Obama is no longer the peace candidate. That would be Ron Paul.
Imp, Redmond, WA
If they are supprters Obama then they are not Republicans. We won't be fooled by the sudden appearance of a hackneyed website like "Republicans for Obama" either -- that is one of the oldest political campaign tricks in the book. Get one of your supporters to pretend he represents the other party and that by inference, you are a political moderate that should draw support from members of both parties. Obama's voting record makes him the most liberal member of the Senate.
Bill, Nashua, NH
I have enjoyed some of your recent articles, but I have to agree with others that this one is a little "out of touch". America will never elect someone who is going to try to socialize our country. Obama is a handsome young man with absolutely NO experience in government. Less than 2 years in the Senate does not qualify him to be the leader of this country. Further, he may be "talking the talk", but his record shows that he has no intention of "walking the walk". He is clearly a socilaist in his voting record and views. I cannot imagine that he will suddenly become a conservative.
Pattie Bittles, Scribner, NE
Obama is a glib talker, but when you get down to substance, Obama is just a left wing Democrat who will pursue policies of appeasement and military weakness in foreign affairs. Any defecting Republicans who think otherwise are kidding themselves and doing a disservice to the country. There are not, however, many such defective Republicans and certainly no defecting conservatives.
Phil Byler, Huntington, New York
Well, Obama's got a nice voice. And he smokes, which goes over real well with the Euro and non-hygenic crowd over here. So yeah, I see the repbulicans and everybody else lining up for Barak Hussein Obama. Sure...that's the ticket!
Donald, Riverdale, GA
Barack Hussein Obama President of United States We are really in trouble. This man Commander in Chief Of our Armed Forces? Think again. A man that was brought up as a Muslim. A Person that is not just a liberal, but farther left than a liberal. This man is not qualified to be a President of anything. He hasn't the slightest idea of what this country faces. He could not unite two pieces of steel with a welding torch let alone unite this country.
Mike Lorenzo, Sharon , Pa
Who is Sarah Baxter? Anyone here know her backround? I ask this because many Euro-UK journalists and voters are not as aware of US politics as they think. The so called "defection" is a result of the impending doom of a second Clinton administration. Obama is a typical US liberal Dem. (much like Bill Clinton), who looks and sounds good and who will fool the average dolt. But under the surface, he is completely dependant on "finger to the wind" policies. They will support Obama in hopes he will topple Clinton, Inc., and his vast inexperience will but guarantee a Republican president. It's really that simple, and it's US politics in a nutshell.
Joe Manzo, Peabody, US/MA
Something gets lost as news travels across the pond.
The only Republicans who support Obama are liberals who wouldn't support a typical conservative Republican anyway. Obama is as leftist as Hillary, and there is nothing in his campaign that would unite our country. He would unite a lot of Democrats, but Democrats who run as liberals - as Obama is - always lose.
Mainstream Republicans are hoping for former Senator Fred Thompson to run. He is a mainstream Republican that both conservatives and moderates (the majority of voters) will support.
Jeff J, Atlanta, GA, USA
It does not seem as tho Obama has credential one....
Kenny Bouy, Naples, Fl/USA
You are not a republican if you support Obama. Things like socialized medicine and giant welfare are not Republican ideals.
S, Washington, DC
Yes we really want an 'inexperienced' charlatan as our next President -- to get us through all the 'tough' siuations and problems that we face in the future??!!!--How outrageous is that!!
diane, princeton, New Jersey
Ridiculous on its face. Except for his position on the war Obama is Hillary. There arent 5 republicans in America who would support him.
Kevin, Boston, Ma., USA
Barack Obama will be the most important political figure of a generation. He will be our next president and will bring America back to being the country the rest of the world looks up to, not down on.
Hillary stands in the way and Republicans want nothing more than for her to win because they fear that maybe, just maybe Americans have woken from a nightmare that they created called George W Bush and will unite the country again.
Dan, Toledo, OH, USA
Obama just makes everyone feel so good, doesn't he? Unfortunately, what this country/world needs is to fix our foreign policy and he doesn't have any clue how to do this. He just doesn't have the experience we need in our next president.
Buddy, Round Rock, Texas
Hey Nick fron S.D McVeigh was an Atheist. He did not do it in the name of religion.
Mike B, Inverness, Florida
These big polical insiders and business people don't believe in anyone except the potential winner. This is why they donate cash and endorsements; so they get jobs and favors when he gets in. They don't care what Obama stands for. But they certainly know that he is an emplty suit who is a brilliant speaker. And good enough to fool the dumb American public to vote him in as President - just like we were fooled by Jimmy Carter and Slick Willy.
Nick, Creedmore, NY
What a ridiculous pro-Obama article. Most conservatives will never vote for this guy. What a ridiculous conclusion to jump to that republicans are for Obama. Also, the quote with Democrats expected to win in 2008. Could it be any more obvious who this reporter is cheering for? The election is a year and a half away. Obama is a complete fraud who has done nothing signifigant at all in his short time as a senator. If he were not a monority nobody would know his name. What a ridiculously slanted article this is.
Stadler, Detroit, Michigan
"Democrats widely expected to win in 2008," ha ha ha, I do not think so! If that is the case, how come with Bush's approval rating at 37%, Giuliani still leads all Democratic candidates? America is not going to elect a tax raising, weak on national security Democrat.
Adam, New York, NY
And, pray tell, how many Republicans are flocking to the side of Obama? Two? Three? Is the rush of converts causing a traffic control problem, or is the author of this little liberal fantasy on loan from The Onion?
Vituperator, New Orleans, USA
Good riddance, republicans can only get elected nationaly with a truly conservative message. The chamber of commerce types just dont cut it with the regular folks. You know the type of republican that will sell out the folks for an extra buck every time. The drive-by media loves to puff these guys up. Put up a conservative candidate combined with a percieved threat and the American people will run home to daddy every time!
james, wichita, usa
This "Uniter" "Bring the country together" is fine as long as it is driven by strong, wise and experienced leadership. We can expect challenges from within and outside our country that will threaten our safety and values. These threats will not be solved by a candidate who exhibits charming stage presence and mouths off phrases that sound like they came from Miss America finalists.
I'm looking for a candidate who shows experience, gutsy leadership and is a good communicator.
Gene Jurasinski, Gettysburg, PA
I find it "interesting" how a few high profile names constitutes a larger "movement".
joe, atlanta, ga
Hey Drew from Texas.( another tolerant individual) assume you don;t trust all Muslims, because of 911. Do you also feel the same way about Catholics. Remember Timothy Mcvee. Think about that .....
Nick, San Diego, Ca
I actually work with someone who was a top Bush consultant. He is currently volunteering for another Republican campaign but stated that he will quit the campaign if/when Obama wins the Democratic nomination. He said he felt Obama would be good for the country.
gary, austin, TX
Our nation needs healing after the divisive ways of the Bush administration. Hilary is also a divider, while I like her personally, she is not the one for the job.
Obama carries a message of hope for this country, and will come as an eye-opening surprise to many, carrying this country forward into the next decade.
Daren, Fresno, California
While I appreciate that some Republicans may be "defecting" to the Obama camp, I challenge that they were ever Republicans at all. It is almost unthinkable that a Republican, well to the right of center, would move to the extreme left of political ideology to align with an avowed social democrat. On the right we tend to call these people Rino's, Republicans in name only that find it a label of convenience. Every camp, it would appear, has "les agent's provocoteur"...
Gregg, Fremont, Michigan
Conservative David Brooks was also favorably impressed with Obama some weeks ago - writing in the NYTs but I don't have a link, sorry.
david morley, moab, utah
The title and opening sentence of this article commit the fallacy of making a statement in which 'all' is implied but only 'some' is true.
Kevin, London,
Glad to see that the Democratic Party dirty tricks campaigns have been working overtime for this planted story. Clearly the Obama Camp is getting nervous if they start to resort to this type of talking-points blast faxed/emailed/blogged out to the media...besides the aparent laziness, this reporter clearly has cut and paste their way to miss understanding American Politics.
Roger , Washington, DC
Hey all you people who say Obama can;t win. Newslflash today....... Any, thats any Democratic candidate will beat any Republican contender. Poll out today. Bush's popularity is so far down the sewer that he will drag any and all Republicans down with him.
Nick, San Diego, Ca
So John Martin says Obama has a message of hope for the country. Who cares, is that why you are supporting Obama, all the presidential canditates have some kind of hope message. Like my Grandpa Gustafson used to say: You can hope in one hand and crap in the other and see which gets filled first.
Joel, Saratoga Springs, UT
I knew that I was at a left-wing site when I read this article.
Sarah is such a good little Liberal with her socialist. agenda. The Socialists didn't win in France. We need to vote them out in the US.
Trish, Aurora, USA
Obama and Clinton both have been too middling and full of doublespeak, they haven't put forward any new ways of thinking, they only seem to vaguely think we should evacuate Iraq while threatening Iran with use of force. The only Democrat candidate that has really straightforward and spoken for himself has been Mike Gravel.
Joseph M. Pence, Champaign, IL
The Muslim community has stated they would take over this country without firing a shot. Putting Obama in the White House they would be succeeding.
J. Reilly, Aberdeen, NC
Republicans that support Obama are doing it for one reason. He can't win, but Hillary might. By putting the weaker candidate out, you increase the chances of the GOP winning in 2008. Despite what the liberals say, this country is not ready for a black president. It won't happen. I don't even believe a woman can win. You'll probably scream racism or sexism, as any Kool-Aid guzzling liberal would, but it's just the truth, face it
Dan, Pittsburgh, PA
I believe almost nothing that comes from the liberal media. Nice try, but we've seen this tactic plenty of times in the past.
Rick, Midland, MI
Now that "The Times" has decided who will be the next U.S. president maybe we should forego the elections and concentrate on something important, like BP's executive mis steps...
Lou, Fort Myers, USA Florida
If it wasnt so early in the year, this would definately be the award winning article under category Liberal Media wishful thinking. Give me a break. This type of reporting belongs in the Enquirer. No wait, even the Enquiirer wouldnt post such a ridiculous article
Ken Hamel, Newton, Ma, USA
I find the quotes of Obama's speech to be hard to reconcile with other things I think I've heard him say. It's a jedi mind trick. He's for expanding the US troops, and starting wars to protect US interests? Doesn't sound like the Obama I've seen on TV.... but is it?
Jeanne Hannigan/ Hilo, HI, Hilo, HI
Sorry - but Obama is an empty suit.
Before he announced his candidacy, I was impressed with him. In his few TV appearances, he sounded intelligent and I was impressed (despite my conservative views).
Once he announced, though, it's been all downhill. He speaks liberal platitudes and talking points.
After six years of a president seemingly unable to articulate his thoughts (I voted for him both times), Obama was a breath of fresh air.
The air has gone stale.
Robert, Kansas City, MO
Another post that could easily be applied to George W Bush.
(Well, if you replace ZERO by NEGATIVE: driving a corporation into
the ground, driving a sports team into the ground, letting 9/11 happen
after telling the messenger "You can go now, you've covered your ass."
"The guy has absolutely ZERO accomplishments on his resume aside from getting elected in a race in which he was essentially unopposed. Remember, ZERO accomplishments. Not one of his supporters can name a single thing he has done. Its only what he 'believes'. People believe in Santa Claus too but the guy doesn't make a credible Presidential candidate."
Silvio, Minneapolis, CA
Only U.S. citizens should be allowed to vote in U.S. elections, to propose otherwise is insane.
Jeffee, Springfield, U.S.A., IL
How to turn a screed from false to true changing a single name:
No one who is a true Republican, a believer in smaller government and more individual responsibility, could possibly support GEORGE W BUSH. He is a big government socialist [DEFICITS!!!]. and believer in the nanny state [for corporations], despite his platitudinous speeches and personal appeal. His performance in the debate [whenever he opens his mouth] show he's definitely not ready for prime time. Lofty, non-specific speeches may sway the addlebrained but will leave us all in the lurch when it's time to govern. It is a sad commentary on American culture to think that such a neophyte could garner so much support based on affability and bone structure.
Silvio, Minneapolis, MN
No conservative would ever vote for socialists like Hillary or Obama. They are not worthy to even be mentioned in the same sentence as Ronald Reagan, or even George W. Bush and John Kennedy.
Paula, Richmond, USA
These people are just looking after themselves; they see the writing on the wall. The Republican Party is going to be trounced in 2008 and these folks don't want to loose there seat at the table!
And sonny,
The reason we don't let Presidents serve more then eight years is because they all get corrupt over time and need to be flushed out!
Bison, Granada Hills, ca
Thw Republicans should not be underestimated. They are after the front runner, being Hilary, and if propping up Obama will set her back, then Republicans will sign up to do it.
Emma, London, Eng.
If these guys were real conservatives they would look at Obama's voting record, not what he says. A candidate will say anything to get elected, as we saw with Bill Clinton.
Mario Goveia, Toledo, Ohio
Ithink Americans should wake up to the fact that the world is changing.Bush and his generals as well as those Americans citizens who voted him again in the second election made a whole lot of mistakes on the war in Iraq.Just look at the mess.Americans should look for someone who is going to fix this mess.Dont look at the colour of the person.Look at his strategies.There is no way America can succeed and survive with its foreign policy.This is not 80's when risks were minimal.
Iam no American citizen.Ilive in Africa-Malawi but I could see chaos with the Iraq war.America could have sealed the Iraq borders when it was invaded.But it chose to ignore all its neighbours,Iran,Syria and the like.Now it is requiring their support,but it is too late.So when choosing candidates look for someone with fore sight so that the mess is cleaned.
Dont choose people who supported the war earlier and are retracting in their actions now.They lack foresightedness.They wont help America.Wake Up Now.
Patricia, Blantyre, Malawi
no way!
And jesse jackson is voting for David Duke.
Get a real life
Tom, chicago, il
Anyone who could vote in favor of partial birth abortion shouldnt be allowed to even babysit let alone be put in charge of a country!
Besides writing a book and giving a rousing speech full of empty platitudes, exactly what has this man actually done for this country? Seriously..
Judith, Dickinson, ND, USA
Drifting Closer to Disaster: Demoncranks and Republicants
The nation drifts ever closer to disaster and neither the Demoncranks or Republicants have the political wisdom, much less the will to implement critical measures necessary that would make possible the constitutional restoration of our country. Both parties are so bound by special interest groups, the pursuit of personal power and aggrandizement, and proselytes of the idolatry of internationalism that they have become the enemies of all those who love liberty. Nearly all of them have violated their oaths, in one way or another, to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.
And we have stood by and not only allowed it to happen, but often have encouraged their perfidity. Instead of holding he villains accountable, our only concern has been if their would be a wider space at the feeding trough and more slop to keep us content...
Rest of essay: http://blog.myspace.com/runrigtexas
Richard, Austin, Texas
As an American, I had to laugh when I read this article. I can assure you, very few Republicans are defecting to the Democrat camp and very few Democrats are converting to the Republican camp. Taking a few examples and trying to peg the trend is utter nonsense.
Scott, Houston, Texas, USA
My guess is that if the Dem. candidate is either Hillary or Obama a huge percentage of Democrats will be voting Republican.
Ron L., camarillo,ca., usa
Obama has it right. We should focus on fighting "our enemy" where they are, namely in Pakistan and Afghanistan, rather than playing out a losing hand by refereeing a civil war in Iraq. The "enemy" in Iraq is primarily freedom fighters that just want us, the occupiers, out of their country.
Steve, Oakland, CA
I don't know where the "Democrats are widely expected to win" comes from. All of the polls I've seen have Republicans and Democrats neck and neck. I think a lot of people want to ignore the Republican candidates because of their party affiliation with Bush. People will see that their messages actually resonate well when it comes down to it.
AC, Mesa, AZ
Obama has a nice personality, but is a far left liberal by American standards. To think that he is acceptable to a majority is a media and left wing big lie. Say that he is mainstream long enough, and maybe the uninformed will believe it.
Unfortunately most Americans don't take the time to study the issues enough. My favorites are Mitt Romney and Rudy Giuliani. They are not as conservative on illegal immigration as I would like, but I think they are loyal to the traditional values of America. They are articulate and attractive candidates. They are more experienced than Obama also. I believe that Mc Cain is too old for the job.
Of the Democrats, I would prefer Hillary, at least she has a lot of second hand experience.
Ronald C Wagner, Decatur, IL
Obama has made huge pushes to clean up corruption and promote campaign finance reform. And he even did this by reaching across the isle and working with McCain. Obama's Awesome!
Tony, Portland, OR
It really does not matter what the elite media have to say about who becomes presient because in the USA each INDIVIDUAL has but ONE vote. This country is not going to elect either a female or a black to be president. PERIOD end of story. Not this time. So whoever the Republicans actually DO nominate will become president.
Leslie, Commerce Township, Michigan
This author is so disingeniuos it hurts. All you have to do is go to opensecrets.org and punch in Bernstein,Tom to see who he gave to. The results, while he did give to Bush, as a friend I am sure, mostly he gives to liberal candidates. Chuck Schumer and NY Liberal Party. Wow I cant wait to look up the rest. BIG defection... NOT
Dave, Pasadena, CA
I live in Orange County and am about as republican as it gets. That said, I am watching Obama with interest. and giving him the benefit of the doubt. I can't get excited about any of the GOP contenders. I like Obamas tone, but am waiting for him to say something that he knows will displease some - his 'sister souljah' moment. So far it has been a lot of bromides and truisms.
I almost think it would be a good idea to have a democrat president for a while - the democrats have had a free ride for 6 years and will find out that, as bad as Bush is, not everything is his fault.
Ian Board, Mission Viejo, California USA
Yes, there are some Republicans who are capable of thinking for themselves. When almost one third of the current covey of candidates discount evolution, I think you can expect many more who will wonder Where in the world is the Republican Party?
ED, Jaffrey, NH
In your wildest dreams, I know of no Republican who would vote for Hill or Obama " EVER. "
Nell Stewart, Georgetown, Tx
I'm a republican and I LOVE Barack Obama. He is the best there is and he has given me hope for the future of America. Sarah, Oregon
Sarah, McMinnville, Oregon
I am a U.S. Army Captain and an Iraqi Freedom Veteran. I can tell you that more and more career U.S. military leaders are angry with the Bush administration. Bush had the full support of the military leadership initially. Now he has lost our trust. Of course we will follow and carry out his orders. That doesn't mean our heart has to be in it. This current administration has embarassed our nation even more than the Clintons ever have. I registered as Republican to vote for Bush. I am glad Kerry didn't win, but this administration has embarrassed us. We need to leave Iraq. The president has become so disillusioned with Iraq. We in the Army are also glad Mr. Rumsfeld is gone. We need someone who is a good conservative to turn this country around. Sen. McCain could do it but he won't win the White House because he thinks we can win in Iraq. The Repubs better get a candidate that can get us out of Iraq, or you can be sure they will not win the White House in 08.
Joe, West Palm Beach, USA, FL
Perhaps some people cross party lines during the primaries to help their opposite party select a candidate which will be easy to defeat in the general election.
That is why I am a "democrat" "supporter" of Obama.
D Paul, Tucson, Arizona
Sounds to me like republican dirty tricks. Send enough money to the #2 candidate in the opposition camp that he feels like he could win. That will divide your enemy.
adam russell, san jose, california
Anyone hear of Ron Paul or Mike Gravel i think they should be mentioned more also.
st, hornell, ny
It seems the media always has information on when Republicans go to Democrats, never the other way around. Obama is not a conervative, any conservative supporter would never support Obama.. There are a great number of good Republican presidential
nominees coming up for '08, no need for the liberal media to start the Obama band wagon.
The Western world is going "Conservative, my own country Canada voted for a "Conservative PM" and now France is following , the US will go again for a strong "Conservative person in these troubled times.
Louise Paquette, Tecumseh, Canada, Ontario
Tim from Florida and Chad from Texas are right. You're misreading the trends in the U.S. Please remember that, if Obama manages to claw his way past Mrs. Clinton for the nomination, he will NOT be running against George W. Bush. The conservatives are hungry for a nominee who is more conservative and more articulate than Pres. Bush. When that candidate emerges, that's when the election will get interesting.
Pam, Spotsylvania, Virginia
I'm retired Army, have 5 combat tours under my belt, (3 of which are thanks to G.W.) and voted Republican since I was able to. This election, I'm voting for Barack Obama. Period.
Barack Obama is the only candidate I see whose "mistakes" were made BEFORE he was in public office. He admits to those mistakes, and has the best chance of unscrewing the perception the rest of the world has about our government.
The refreshing thing in my eyes is that he's got my vote because of the man he is, and not because he's black, half black, 1/4 black, whatever... Race doesn't matter to me anyhow. He's a helluva lot smarter than I am, and he has good ideas, principles, and a lot more morals that the others. Who cares if he's a first year senator? I want someone who isn't already corrupted to be the next president.
steve berkshire, Loveland, CO
Those so called defectors are NOT conservatives. If they like Obama and are aware of how he has voted then they really should be called socialists. Like so many they should look at what he has DONE not merely at what he says. Words are often hollow.
ab, new alexandria, pa
I agree with William from El Paso.
One of two 'useful idiots' allow themselves to be used by liberal journalists & socialist politicians, and the resulting propaganda is supposed to convince thousands that an Obama or at least a democrat presidency is inevitable.
Everyone wants to 'vote for a winner', and the press is already working to convince those who will not think for themselves, that Obama or Clinton are predestined to be president.
I also agree with Larry from Cedarburg, and would like to add the following. What has Hillary actually accomplished, other than standing by her political 'meal ticket' through all of his scandals. What legislation has she authored that has made a real difference in the USA?
The only practical experience that Hillary has is in the "politics of personal destruction" to those who stand in her way!
Dave C, Virginia,
Are you guys kidding yourself? Do you really believe that huge numbers of Republicans will vote for Obama?! That may be the dream of Democrats, or other countries who hope that America will vote Democrat in '08 so that America will be defeated internationally on a variety of levels. Let's be honest, Americans are not the only ones who know that the Democrats will lead us to defeat. In all due respect, "I admired Ronald Regan. And my friend, Barack Obama is no Ronald Regan!" Good try though!
Nicolette, San Bernardino, CA, USA
"My 2c worth is that "Informed Republicans" is a contradiction in terms."
M McGregor, Tunbridge Wells, UK
Well, M McGregor, you placed the value on your own opinion, and I agree... 2c. It is ridiculous to think that conservative Republicans would even consider voting for a socialist. Obama is the media darling, so perhaps he will garner all of the media votes, but I doubt that he will be more than a fleeting fancy for bleeding-heart liberals.
Cecil, Eastland, Texas
If they have defected to Obama, then they were never Republicans.
David, Bloomington, IN, USA
Sorry if this sounds like naive Brit-speak but I think that the best Clinton for the job and the best candidate fullstop is Bill. The US should allow more than 2 terms on the basis that it disqualifies (potentially) the best man / woman for the job. I know Bill is better viewed outside the US than within so this view may not be shared by many in the US, but he has a greater grasp of world and domestic politics than many if not all of the candidates currently thinking of standing. It's such an important job, not just for the US but for the world so someone with a "global view" is essential in my opinion. Maybe we should be allowed to vote as well?
sonny, london,
Thanks for your insight into Republican support for Democrats. This is not new to America and may prove to be mere self-interest on the part of campaign contributors who either have business interests in Obama's state or in the purview of committees he sits on. Core conservative and liberal philosophies do not easily change just for elections. In the end, one will not hear Democrats using such phrases as "our beloved country" or "our great nation", much less "God bless America" or the dreaded phrase "on to victory". Therefore, most conservatives such as I will vote for a liberal Republican before we accept a conservative Democrat. Your gracious Queen was very welcome here. May God save her. And, if you have more communicators like the brilliant Christopher Hitchens, send them over - we sorely need the brain power
Tom Budney, Sheb Falls, Wisconsin USA
At last some Republicans may see though the darkness they created.
Rob Noll, Norway, Maine
Please stop attacking this article by calling it mere propaganda and attack the facts it's based on if you want. If you can't, swallow it down, even if it hurts. Barack has made clear his position on many issues, just because you don't know his stance, doesn't mean he doesn't have one. Go to his website. While I'm not sure why Obama would even strive to emulate Reagan, he has said he was fond of "Reaganomics." The world socialist probably shouldn't be directed so quickly at Obama or hillary considering how much Bush increased the size of the gov, except for the EPA of course. It's ashame so many people have the opinion they will never vote for a Democrat/Republican, true ignorance.
John, Chicago, IL
Who cares. Obama will not win the primary anyway. Hillary and company will save the dirt on him until it is close to the primary and he will end up a distant second or third in the running.
Tom Spiegel, East Stroudsburg, Pa.
If he now supports Obama he never was a Republican to begin with.
bob macdougal, St. Augustine, Fl
How would Obama conduct the War on Terror or does he even acknowledge the risk of another 911 if we don't fight the Muslim terrorists? If we don't fight our enemy in Iraq, where do we fight? Eventually he will have to provide some details on how he will deal with this issue. That will be the end of his hopes to be President.
Russ Stabley, Fort Lauderdale, Florida
Its true! My christian conservative father and grandmother from Texas (former Bush supporters) have praised Obama and named him the best candidate for President from both sides! He is the real deal!
Noel , Washington, D.C.
It is difficult to classify Obama as either left or right. His policy positions are reasonable and guided by common sense. In any case, the next President won't be elected by pundits and bigwigs, but by the vast grass roots movement for change from divisive politics that will restore a united and stong nation.
Mark, Arlington, VA
This fact in the article undermines the whole premise of the article:
"According to figures compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics in Washington, Obama and Clinton have vacuumed up more than $750,000 (£375,000) in individual contributions from former Bush donors."
Bush has raised hundred of millions of dollars in the last two election cycles and if these two candidates COMBINED have only been able to raise less than $1 million from former Bush donors, this should be evidence there is no massive defection to these socialists.
However, when you see the names of these people that are defecting and their close association with the President, it allows you to better understand why Bush has not governed as a conservative. Sadly, Mr Bush is not a conservative and neither are many of his close associates.
Doug, Jupiter, FLA USA
Tancredo is the best candidate. It's too bad that most of the American public is too absorbed in their ipods, tv, and American Idol. They are brainwashed by what the media dictates. Hillary?? Obama?? Come on!! The lack of independent thought and the ignorance of our own American citizens is driving our country into the sewer. The politicians have the advantage because the American people don't know their Constitution and they fall for the tactic that we have to help the entire suffering world, at the expense of our country. Focus on Darfur and ignore the parasitic illegal immigrant problem and other destructive problems within our country? That's the way to destroy America. All terrorists need to do is watch. We are destroying ourselves. It's pathetic.
G., Lompoc, USA
the stupidity of people calling for Surrender in Iraq and Redeployment to Darfur/Sudan is beyond belief! If we cannot see bin Laden's work in Iraq..and call it a Civil War..we WILL indeed see it in Darfur/Sudan! The UN Has IGNORED it for years..and if we Surrender In Iraq..the UN should Not then get our Troops involved in Sudan. the call from EVERY Surrendering Soldier should be "Remember Mogadishu"! Surely we will have enough on our hands fending off attacks in Kuwait or wherever we RUN TO..
Lara Barker, So. Boston, Ma
Kagan supports Obama! Hell has frozen over.
Dan, Atlanta,
Biggest bunch of HOGWASH I have ever read... As usual in presidential elections, the people will have TWO choices: bad and worse... The democrats will self-destruct and the republicans will simply fill the vacuum.... The less of the two evils will remain for a third of the disenchanted and disenfranchised electorate to choose.
Jay Heimdal, Mobile, USA / AL
Is this writer merely ignorant about the American political scene, or affirmatively disingenuous? Hard to tell.
James, Los Angeles,
If anyone thinks the Clinton machine will allow Obama to win this primary, you'd better think again.
At best, it will be a Clinton / Obama ticket. That's if Clinton doesn't destroy Obama in order to knock him out of the race...which will probably happen.
Obama is a novelty that will wear off...just like dean.
Mike Hunt, NY, USA/NY
This is pure garbage, No Republican, living or dead, would support Obama. This is pure swill.
William Hofmeister, Moberly, USA/Missouri
I've been in the GOP since I worked for the Ford campagn in 1976 before could vote. I voted for Bush and never voted for a democrat for President. I'm career military.26 years. I've seen our stature plunge around the world, even among friends, seen the disasterous effects of current ops on our force and the lack of thought the administration put into to Iraq. I have lost conficence in Bush and the GOP in congress. Most running for the GOP nomination inspire little confidence. I haven't decided who to support, it is possible that for the first time I might vote Democrat for president. The GOP is no longer the party of Reagan, it's the party of Fundamentlaist Christians and BIG GOVERMENT, it has helped destroy our manufactring base and has betrayed Regan's heritage and needs to fix itself, or it will contnue to lose people like me. That's not treason, that's wisdom. It's not about supporting a winner, it's about what's best for the country. I hope the GOP can recover from Bush.
Steve, Virginia Beach, Virginia
"And unlike many Americans, I do not get my news only from Fox. I actually read Drudge, CNN, the Washington Post, the BBC, Al Jazeera's english site, the Bangkok Post, etc. I then use my intelligence to make well thought out observations regarding world politics."
Wow. What an arrogant assumption to make. So, since people think that a Republican might make a better President than a Democrat, they must be unintelligent and uninformed?
Get off your high horse. You're not as intelligent as you think you are...
Jon, Stow, OH,
Your publication can say what it will. "Republicans defect to Obama", reads the headline. Where do you guys get your info, from the tooth fairy? Because one or two "prominent" Yalie types like Obama, all of a sudden there is a Republican upwelling of support for him? Give me a break. Obama is not qualified to be president. He doesn't have any executive experience of any kind. Two years in the US Senate qualify him to "advise and consent", not to lead. He's never had a real job in the real world. Let him dry off behind his ears before we crown him.
Patrick Curry, Irvine, CA
I feel pity for anyone that could support such canditates as Clinton and Obama. They have no convictions, just stick their finger in the wind.
robert sizemore, morgantown, monongalia, wv
Fiction masquerading as journalism: a disturbing and ominous trend even by today's biased media standards. The premise of this bizarre article have been sufficiently de-bunked by others here, yet what is most troubling is that it made it past the Times' editors in the first place.
Mark, AZ, USA
The media an liberals love Obama,but when real AMerica finds out that he did NOT support avenging Afghanistan but rather wanted troops in Darfur, when they find out that he approves of letting prisoners out early rather than supporting our police, and that he has no intention on coming up with genuine ideas, but rather talking in Hillary terms, they'll see that he is nothing more than a typical liberal that the media(ny, la, london) tries to force on REAL Americans.
J Mill, Chicago,
Democratic Disinformation. Republicans for ... a fill in the blank by the DNC to move all of theses loony liberals to the middle.
Tom Jordan, Valley Stream, New York
That is crazy! A true Repulican would never support Obama. His ideas are totally off. If you ever listen to his speeches, he is for higher taxes, abortion, gun control, and many other things so-called "Republicans" are against. My feeling is a person will emerge soon. As far as now, not one person running has peaked my interest. As a true Republican, I am waiting...We still have a long way to go.
mjones, Alexandria, va
Sarah Baxter seems to forget one huge problem for Barack Hussein Obama- Hillary Clinton. The Clinton political machine will not lose the primary to Obama, which leaves the Democrats stuck between a rock and a hard place. On one hand, Hillary will not lose the primary, but on the other hand, she is not well liked by mainstream America. She is not capable of winning the general election, which means that despite the "Drive by Meida," the Republicans will win in 2008,
XEKE, Cuyahoga Falls, OH
What phenomenal bias and lack of insight from Ms. Baxter.
Listen carefully, madam: the Democrats are not a shoe-in for the White House in 2008. As much as you'd love to influence that decision with weak anecdotal premises such as the Republican "defections" you stated, the values of Barack Obama on social issues are fundamentally antithetical to the will of the majority of Americans. Particularly as regards abortion and affirmative action, the majority of Americans will not fall for this hollow populist.
As others have said previously, half of Mr. Obama's time was spent on an astroturfing book tour that any reasonable individual would now see as an overly ambitious plan to run for President in 2008. Presenting Barack as "fresh" versus the "older, more biased" political contemporaries is in and of itself a false dilemma. He is constantly equivocating on points that other contenders would be hung out to dry for.
In short, your article makes the wrong conclusions, period.
Gerald Townsend, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Its also a very big leap to say Republicans are defecting to Obama. Perhaps they are not Republicans but Democrats who have previously voted for Bush. The Times Online will never understand American politics. Republicans in America dont change the things they believe in every four years. They have guiding principles that they stand by and dont waiver. Obama does not offer many of the guiding principles most Republicans look for its a laugher here in America to read the kind of dribble that comes out of the Times.
Woody H., Purcell, OK, USA
What a foolish premise for an article. Republicans are merely funding the opponent they can beat in 2008.
David, Sarasota, FL USA
It's a set-up to trap the media into thinking that all these people support Obama, but they vote in secret as we ALL do! One citizen, one vote! The American people will decide who the next president of the United States will be, not the OTHER politicians! Personally, I don't trust anyone who "flees the camp" to side with the opposing party. They are back-stabbers in my book and not to be taken that seriously. There will be a backlash, alright, but not the one you want us to believe!
Kathryn Warren, Shreveport, LA
I would have to say that the far-left will "overblow" just about ANYTHING now to see Obama elected. There are absolutely NO avaerage American Repubs going to vote for Obama. There is absolutely no way he gets elected and everyone knows it. He is currently running for Vice President as WE ALL KNOW, Hillary will be the Dem Prez nominee.
southerndemocrat, carmel,indiana, usa
This article must have been written by a closet communist. BO a 'black RR'? That's rich, comparing a guy that was afraid to debate on Fox News to the guy who dealt the death blows to the Iron Curtain.
The foreign press is tabloid. No, you really can't buy machine guns in convenient stores here either.
Dan, ROC, NY
More and more Republicans will come out for Obama or help him behind the scenes. Everyday, he is seen more and more as the best way to derail Hillary. Republicans will beat Obama 50 states to 0 in 2008, if only the Democrats will nominate him.
thomas, Phoenix, Arizona
He's more liberal than Hillary and almost as socialist as Chavez. Any "Republican" that thinks he's the right candidate should carefully consider whether or not they are members of the right party.
Radiant Times, Desert Southwest, USA
Oh Mamma! Obama, oh horse manure! Can a country be run with only a grin?
El Duane Whatley, Dallesport, Washington, USA
I believe that the support for Clinton and Obama from typically republican supporters will shift once Frd Thompson enters the race.