think it great that people such as www.aflag.com only sell flags made in America!

Matt, Lake Elmo, MN

I think both our countries waste resources = Weaker (Read "Strength makes all other values possible") Perhaps we would all help protect our way of life liberty; if we invest our efforts however small in our own country. I find it madness to have tax payers fund agencies to protect us and in doing so. Catch perps who come to our country to harm us. THEN the tax payers have to PAY to keep these perps that would kill us; all healthy in a prison for XX years.. to me that is madness. Read ("waste of resources = weakness") It could be argued that if we all put our money back into our own country. Apart from being stronger the TAX could be less than it is currently. Come to think of it; i would like to see the figures of what we spend outside our own countries. I mean every consumer item is tagged with a seller ID of sorts. Then you can trace all goods. From e.g Sony to supplier to supplier to middleman to local store to Individual. Information is power = Stength.

Sydistic, Smallville,

The commentary on this page shows that the issue here is not just about Flags. The Brits and the Yanks care deeply about maufacturing skill and strength. It is culturally important to both, like it is to Germany. It is like land to other cultures. Both our countries need to work together - and we have not been - to make sure we have strong, top-notch manufacturing bases. On a trip to London last year I had a great and useful conversation with members of a technical society and heard real concerns about the British engineering industry. Same here in the US. We both have good bases now - but we need to keep an eye on it and keep it growing, which it is after years of decline. Free trade is pretty darn good - but it is not religious dogma - it needs to prove its worth every day - and you get to question its value. So what's the game plan? What are the best engineering schools in the UK?

ed, Yarmouth, MA

Antipatriot from Boston,
Try your own prescription and go visit Africa or some other tribalistic part of the world. If you've done so, you certainly didn't contemplate the social environment. On the evolutionary tree of civilizations, the only thing above nationalism is universalism, and nobody is seriously close to achieving that! Nationalism is far from perfect, but when focused on a set of ideals rather than ethnicity then it's better than most anything else currently available. Step out of your own bubble into someplace with no sense of nationalism. You'll get a feel for how many opportunities to cooperate for any worthy goal that people squander just because they waste so much of their lives not trusting one another.

In America, trumpeting a set of common values, rightly or wrongly, frees us of the burden of everlasting suspicion of our neighbors' intentions. That goes a long way towards explaining why it's the American flag on the moon. The UN has no flag up there.

Jeffrey, NYC, USA

Louise from Brighton - spot on

Come on guys Brits and Americans are supposed to be friends!

Henrietta Forbes Hamilton, London, UK

All this fuss over where a flag is made.
what about your Nikes or the car you drive to buy your new flag? or even the PC you are now using where was that made?

Dave, PETERBOROUGH, UK

I THINK AMERICANS AND UK or western people are missing
the point here ,we are allowing CHINA to steal manufacturing
jobs in massive numbers and the governments of our countries are doing nothing to stop it, we need to introduce
stricter import controls on traded goods ,if we do not do this
MORE AND MORE JOBS GO AND WE GET SOCIAL BREAKDOWN ILL HEALTH AND ACHOLISM IN LOWER SOCIAL CLASSES WHICH ALSO LEADS TO MORE CRIME.

george william taylor, hull, uk

Could someone please verify that the coffins of dead soldiers are draped with American made flags?

Keith, San Francisco, CA

I often wonder why it just rankles the British so much what goes on in America. You seem to devote so much of your time and energy commenting on and critizing the Americans that it beggars belief. Americans hardly seem to reciprocate. In fact , I am willing to bet that few, if any, major American publications, let alone a major one such as the Times ,would devote so much space to such antinationalistic sentiments. Why does it bother you so much that Americans are different from you? Afterall, wasn't this desire to be different at the heart of the establishment of what is currently the USA? Logic alone would dictate that if you dislike something or someone so intensely as some of you claim that you should just ignore it. At least pay little attention to it. But it's not in your DNA, is it? No, that would mean one less opportunity to trumpet the merits of the superior culture.

Mendoza, Statesville, NC

I have a question: does this mean that there aren't any American firms that produce flags for other countries?

starling, Lancaster,

Oh I like a serious debate.

What if the Chinese only made the fabric and it would be cut and sewn in America by illegal immigrants from beyond the Rio Grande?
Would american flags made in Europe be acceptable?
Who made the american flags Noah waived on the Ark (and why did he forgot to get dinosaurs aboard)?
Let the Chinese make Old Glories and have Americans make Red Banners!

Ronnie, Paris, FRANCE

Well, it's fair to say I will never buy a US product again. I'm so sick and tired of their xenophobic behaviour. Oh, and their arrogant claims that they saved us in the World Wars. What lies they spread! They never saved anyone except themselves. They happily watched Hitler launch the Holocaust and did nothing because, as they said at the time, it wasn't in their economic interest to take action. It was only when they saw the chance to make billions that they finally became involved. Britain and France, on the other hand, fought from Day 1, in the cause of freedom, even though Hitler was adamant he didn't want to fight them. Sure, Britain received money for rebuilding after the war, but the punitive repayment terms crippled our economy for years. Boy oh boy did the US make HUGE money out of the War, but then that's all that US citizens care about isn't it?

Carol, Derby,

I believe the U.S. has back itself into a corner. The average American doesn't think twice about always buying the cheaper product...or looking at the tag to see where it was made.

As I've worked in two industries---semiconductor and now cast polymer/solid surface---that have come to an almost a complete end by less costly imports. We (the U.S.) are a nation of consumers. It's not a good place to be.

Buying U.S.A. made flags is a good start. It might sound a little like protectionism, but what country doesn't look out for its own interests?

Angela, Tucson, Arizona, USA

I think it's jolly decent of the Chinese to make other nations flags, and at a cut price too! People buy it because it is cheap. I can understand if people have ethical concerns, but any other reason goes against the principles of having a free market.
When it come to 'made in..' tags the only ones that ever significanty affect my judgement on purchase are 'made in Germany' or 'made in Japan.' Anything else I find totally hit and miss. Nowadays you need two ingredients for a high quality product. 1. The 'know how;' which can be purchased at the right price and 2. quality materials.
In America top Chinese, British, German, Russian etc scientists are probably working on improving America's already super-advanced weapons systems... I think America should boot them out because these weapons will not be truly American.
Anyway..not to worry..if the dollar drops any further they wont be able to afford imports anyway..

Pete, Tong, Wales GB

This story is also on Fox so dont read too much into the anti-American slant. I understand the Americans concern as its their national symbol but you either believe in free trade or you dont. It must be the decision of the American consumer to buy Made in the USA and not made in China.

Steve, London, England

"American mythology you Brits your total history is mythology!"

Must you fight throw away comment with throw away comment? (I corrected you spelling of Brit, I felt that it might make your comment appear less foolish. Unfortunately for you it hasn't worked.)

Also Kenneth, Ohio supporting terror by buying something from China...?

Are the comments made by Americans designed to make peoples blood boil? This thread is for a flag, a piece of material, a symbol. There is nothing wrong with national pride, love your country, but its like young amorous couples, I don't want to have to be witness to their love when they're licking each other and I'm minding my own business drinking my tea.

America is mass-produced, why not the flag too, surely to ban imports is simply hypercritical?

liz, york, UK

Unbelievable. It's exactly this kind of xenophobic attitude which alienates and marginalises ethnic minorities within the US and damages the perception of Americans abroad. I can just about understand wanting to make best use of the US's own manufacturing resources (although criminalising the use of non-US products seems rather fascist), particularly for such an important symbol as the stars and stripes, but the majority of the comments below are at best ignorant and at worst downright racist.
I'm not sure how Kenneth J Roberts concludes that buying flags from China constitutes supporting terror, but given this absurd logic, perhaps he might consider moving away from Lebanon, Ohio to somewhere which has fewer terrorist connotations.
The sooner you realise that the US isn't the centre of the universe, and develop some cultural sensitivities, then the sooner you will develop more harmonious relations with the rest of the world.

JM, London,

There's nothing xenophobic, isolationist, or raving (by the way, that's precisely why we read a British online news source because we're none of those things) about wanting to have at least the country's flag actually made inside of the country.

No one is saying that everything has to be made here. And no one is rubbing anything in anyone else's face. We just love our country and want what's best for it. So what if we want to "protect" what's ours, and our way of life? Sometimes you have to take a stand, even if the Know-it-all(s) don't like it.

You all want to "tsk tsk" at us about xenophobia & isolationism? Please! Take a look at what's happening in your own back yard, and then tell us what [unlimited] liberal inclusiveness has gotten you? Americans will fight for their country on multiple levels. "Others" will simply give theirs away.

Lee, Houston, TX

Wow, kinda shocked by the huge amount of americans commenting on this story (not in a bad way).

Personally, I love the country I live in, but I believe in the right for all humans, wherever they live, to have a voice, a choice in how their country is run.
And I don't see a flag has being representative of what makes Britain great. Instead, I see the freedom to speak and criticise the people in power, as what makes this country great.
It's not that the people born here are inately better though, it is just the way history has played out - I hope all people in the world get a chance at that freedom.

Having said all that, I recognise how much americans value their flag. It is a symbol... but let's not hate over symbols.
Not all of Europe, or Britain hates America. And even the people who do, often just hate the government, and recognise that individuals are just that.

Matthew MacDonald, Andover, UK

It's good to read that the brits are still interested in the everyday ongoing within the USA. As for why, I'm reading a British paper, it allows me to keep an open mind and be more aware of world events which can impact my own little world here. By the way I also read plenty of other papers from throughout the world. I don't know if this makes me a nut, but what happens in other countries effects our lives here in the USA. I am a Native American (Navajo) and a lot of my fellow Native Americans have fought for this nation. I for one, will not dishonor my fellow Americans who fought for this country, died in wars in foreign countries by buying the very thing which signifies the freedom I experience each and every moment of my life, day in, day out.

I can only speak for myself, as I do not if the Brits have an equivalent day such as our 4th of July celebrations. But if the Brits or any other country has an equivalent celebratory day, then you should celebrate it and enjoy

Navajo Injun from Kayenta, Navajo Nation, AZ. (USA, Kayenta, AZ (USA)

Cheers to you, guys, on that day of great celebration for your independence, the very one you owe to the frogs indeed. I'm pretty sure you won't acknowledge this simple fact since the all of your education has been brainstormed by Gibson's soap (the Patriot), and more recently by Murdoch's insanity (WMD, and so on) that makes you worship freedom fries when so much of you can't even barbecue at home today. But, fortunately, there came Internet.. So try typing a search on Google that would ask for US FINANCING NAZIS BEFORE WAR and you will get 1 750 000 documents to seriously inform you on that matter.. Odd Pals who saved Europe twice!!!? If that's too much for your brain, try to read the very first page of Sir Winston's memory where the same topic is clearly mentionned. So stop the myth, you'll get more intelligent. Now, let me teach you a basic rule of economics; should something bad happen to Chinese economics, you, the U.S., would endlessly plunge in its own "crams". Not yet drunk?

Patrice Christophe Denaes, Toulouse, France

... your individual control. On 9/11 i was glued to the tv because it was an issue that affected the World, but the individual, human stories have spread (like a ripple on a lake) within your own country, and have had some devastating effects. This was very quickly followed by Iraq and the issues continue to be a hard time in an historical and emotional sense for you guys. I'm sorry if the comments of some of the anglos here cause offence and hurt but they're only a minority, just a dozen or so people who feel the need to bash a country because of the choices made by a few individuals in power.

I think the best way to sum up how i see these times, from my own point of view, is that it's been the worst i have known. I'm sure it's also the worst of times for you too. I can't point a finger at anyone, those bombers in London were convinced they were doing the right thing, just as are all 'freedom fighters' around the World. What i do know is most Brits are standing firm with the US.

Justin, Redhill, England

I seriously am starting to think, as evidenced by the constant anti-American comments, that leftie Euros and the US left are going to be the downfall of Western Civ.

We should be presenting a united front to the radicals of the Middle East. By constantly bashing the US and Israel with propaganda by the media, we are providing fodder to the radicals of the Middle East. They get access to our media, and by constantly seeing many here spew how bad America and Israel is, it just confirms their worst ideas. In fact I would say even more than their own media, as perhaps they think, if even WE say it, it must be true.

How nice this world would be if we all say - Saddam Hussein was unacceptable, and if you run a country that way, we are going to step in. How nice if we all say, you have to work out a border arrangement with Israel, and not blow up women and children to get your way. Bush has a point when he says you are with or against us. Seems Europe has chosen already.

Claudia , Atlanta, USA

Ha, you people from great Europa are ones to talk, you create the EU because you cannot even come close to competing on your own with the US, you can't possibly have any pride when when there is no longer an individual country its just the floundering EU. Soon there wont be French, Brits, Belgians, it'll be "I'm a Eurpean Unionist" under one flag under one currency.

We can't help but to have the pride we do for as far as this country and as advance as this country has come in the 200+ years of our megar existence compared to the old countries who now need the help of the illegitimate child, the US.

They hate us not because of Bush, he's just a convenient excuse, they hate us because they need us more then we need them.

I bet you all wouldn't like if it the Euro was minted in China or the US.

Don Juan, Town, US

Kinda sounds like the U.S. is closing the barn door after the horse has bolted.

Martin, London, England

Why aren't all those Americans who are complaining about the British & this article complaining about the self-hating Americans who buy Chinese made US flags?

Why aren't all those Americans who are complaining about the British & this article complaining about the self-hating American Corporations who sell Chinese made US flags?

The level of self-denial from these folk is incredible

Alan, Edinburgh, UK

Do you guys know what's really amusing? If you count up how many whiny, childish anti-the-other country messages are on this thread, they are overwhelmingly from the US.

Dan, Hampton, UK

Hang on, isn't it most American (and British) companies that farm their jobs out to kids in China/India. Isn't this globalisation and "free trade" that is championed by America? Perhaps you should try looking within your own borders to find out who it was that sent manufacturing abroad?

What if you simply had a choice to buy flags made in America or China? At the very least it would be interesting to see the results.

How would you react if we in England banned cars Made in America for being unpatriotic or banning American Steel.

The most ironic thing is that the symbol of freedom you so cherish is now bound by laws restricting it's production and it is supported by free people.

Justin, London,

All this does is show how little American's know about world trade and protectionism. Lucky for you you're only worry is where your flag is made and not how you're going to feed to family because you can't compete with subsidised American farm produce dumped on the world market.

Jonathan, Auckland, New Zealand

TC Iowa you muppet!

How is our history mythology? Have you never heard of the Magna Carta, Chaucer, Pepy? Britts is not an acceptable way to refer to us, it’s similar to referring to Americans as Yanks.

I don't understand how preventing free trade constitutes patriotism, or for that matter why flag burning is such a heinous crime. It would surely only bother the most petty minded person.

M S, London, England

"National Pride" and "Patriotism" are bad words in Europe. "Loss of National Identity" and "Intifada" are bad words in the USA.

And MInnesota, Pennsylvania and NJ are a liberal democratic states, btw.

Kelly, Philadelphia, PA

Kenneth and Matt, Target is selling flags made in the U.S. Unfortunately, the flag poles, brackets, etc. are made in China, but you can get the flag at least and then try for the pole somewhere else. Frankly, given all the problems with Chinese products lately, I'm hesitant to buy anything they make just from a pure safety position, let alone an economic/manufacturing one.

Marilyn, Catonsville, MD, USA

Now why is this not a surprise? Another week and another article in a British or European publication bashing America. This is usually followed by the requisite antiUSA responses from Brits and everyone else telling us everything that is so wrong with Americans and their country. Of course the generalizations soon follow. Never mind that 49 out of 50 states have different laws on the subject in question . But that does not matter, does it? Even in a reputable paper as the Times. It's like dangling a red towel in front of a bull and watching the beast go mad with rage.
I often wonder how some of you actually find time for anything else since you devote so much of your time and energy bashing the USA . I suppose it is like a barking dog. Eventually the creature just shuts up and licks itself to sleep when it gets tired of barking.

Thomas, Mooresville, NC

Calling all americans (and everybody else for that matter), instead of lauding about how this article is anti-american please take the time to read it... carefully.

it is neither pro nor anti american, all its doing is stating is what lengths american industry will go to. Not too be moaning, but it seems the land of the free is not the land of free trade, mind you no developed economies are fully commited to free trade.

As for hating americans, we're british we dont hate people, we merely regard them with humorous indifference. Basically we laugh at some of the measures some people take, as im sure people do with us.

j stevens, lancaster,

Why is a British paper making commentary on a domestic American issue in the first place? It has no bearing whatsoever on British everyday life, so why the commentary? Many people in the United States criticize the media for bias, but it pales in comparison to the media in the UK, who seemingly has nothing better to do than criticize the US domestic agenda now.

Dan, Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA

That from a state who sent a black muslim to congress? Interesting.

Charles , Hauula , Hawaii

So does this mean no one will be offended if we burn the flags made in China? (just kidding of course)

Neil W., Champlain, USA

I do not object to China's economic growth & stuff, but to be honest I am sick & tired of "made in China" cheap goods, I'd better own fewer items, but produced in europe/usa/canada. Cheap actually is tacky, what's the reasoning behind cheap stuff? The thing that you can damp your clothes into rubbish every week or so? Probably, my view is very old-fashioned, but fast food, cheap & tacky stuff impoverish the everyday life. As for the flag, i honestly think it's a very good move - to have an American flag made in America. It's a symbol and it's should not be enslaved to demands of global economy. Why should money go to China instead staying at home?

Pam, St.Petersburg, Russia

Why do Americans keep spouting about WW2 and seemingly thinking that the victory was all down to them . There was me thinking the Russians were first to Berlin ... Never mind facts aren't important , at least you were clearly on the winning side during this one and you don't get to say that too often .

Benzo, Nr Chelmsford,

"We still helped save Europe from Hitler, and Communism, and freed many women in Afghanistan from abuse. "

You also eradicated Christianity in Iraq and created a Muslim state, smartypants. Women used to be able to have careers there, now they're afraid to go out on their own, and several Christian settlements have been flattened. Stop listening to propaganda and start thinking (and researching) for yourself.

starling, Lancaster,

"American mythology you Britts your total history is mythology!"

TC, Iowa, USA - A brilliant example of how a small handful can manage besmirch the reputation of the whole. Where did the “founding fathers” of America come from? Simply put, if British history is nothing but myth and lore, presumably the vast majority of Americans have been born out of that very fiction.

I would hope that instead of making sweeping and accusing statements, maybe some people could think before they jump right in. As an American TC – I would have thought that you may realise the stigma attached to your bravado, maybe it might be time to finally get off that awfully high horse and put away those cowboy boots?

Tom, London, City

I hope they don;t bring in a law that says you americans have to buy american manufactured cars, otherwise your country will grind to a halt.

God Bless America - NOT

martin, derby, uk

As a citizen of Minnesota I'm glad that US flags on sale in this state need to be made in the US. Our flag is something special and we should never have to be beholden to another country for its construction.

That being said I also hope this is the start of a larger process where Americans truly examine the horrid record of China on human dignity and rights. The cheap cost of Chinese made goods is entirely the result of a brutal government stifling human freedom and flouting environmental concerns. Without that "advantage" China would not be able to overwhelm the world with crappy shoes and dime store trinkets.

John the Fierce, St. Paul, Minnesota / USA

Sir,
Long live the jingoistic paranoid armed ghetto. How about the values of freedom and capitalism, international free trade. Perhaps it is better to worship a tribal totem. I think I prefer our reserved manner, rather than our becoming the 51st State, quite vulgar and maudlin.

SC, London, United Kingdom

How short sighed and foolish. This is America! - where free trade rules. It is in the best interest of this county to allow goods be purchased by the consumer and sold by the most efficient producer. If Chinese flags suck - then don't buy them. Why should an industry get protection from a goverment because their business model sucks or they can't pursuade American consumers to buy American made flags. This type of law makes me ill. There is nothing more patriotic than a cheap , plastic Chinese American flag. The producer made money and someone buying that thing wanted it and was happy.

Seabert, Richmond, VA

Good on you for supporting America and not China. I know thi smust irk the America haters in your state.

Willy Brown, Chesapeake, VA

I would like to see all our food grown in America.

Debbie, Sunnyvale, USA/ CA

I do not want to rain on anyone's parade because this ia a good start. But, I no longer trust our government (Democrats or Rebpublicans). So, we must have a muliple of laws to make sure this one is carried out.

We fell for this before back when a similar situation required public transpotation vehicles to be made in the USA. They purchased them outside of the US, brought them back here, took them apart and then uilt them back up again and slapped a 'Made in the USA' sticker on them.

Question, where is the dye, material and thread going to be made. Will they pay prevailing wage in America when the flags are sewn together by Americans? Or will they pay less than prevailing wages to the illegals.

Debbie, Sunnyvale, USA/ CA

No problem with the concept----------as long as capitalistic greed doesn't dictate the price.
Where is the material for the product going to come from? The dye? The mast? Fasteners?.....
My Dodge Ram Cummins pickup is "Made in the USA". It was "Assembled in Mexico".
Since no American citizen will work for low wages, according to the liberal left, who will produce the product.?
Which politician's brother-in law will get the contract?

LR JohnstonUSMC, Hidden Springs, Idaho

To Mohhamed of London. There is 150,000 U.S. Flags on the shoulders of Americans in Iraq. By contrast there are only 5,500 hundred Union Jacks in the same locale. Don't preach to me about patriotism!

Murph, Madisonville, KY/USA

The Arizona class rooms arn't FORCED to place flags in the classrooms. The law was changed because so many classroom were flying the MEXICAN flag in the classromm not the U.S. Flag. This law, when fully read, states that the U.S. flag will be in every classroom. If you don't think it's right to love this county and preserve the Flag that binds us - Leave.

Kelly, Sierra Vista, US/ Arizona

There is a reason these flags can be made more cheaply in China: manufacturing in the US is too costly to be competitive. The solution certainly isnt government interference in the market, the solution is to adapt accordingly. Ultimately consumers benefit from buying a cheaper flag made in China. The jobs that are artificially maintained in the States due to protectionism are a waste of human capital. I have nothing against patriotism, indeed, I support it. But when it gets in the way of simple economic common sense then we have a problem. Let China do what it can do best - manufacture cheaply - and let the US do what it can best - offer services, financial intermediation, trade etc. Protectionism ultimately hurts the US economy because it is anticompetitive and thus creates inefficiencies. These laws should be repealed because they represent steps towards a command economy. I expected more from such a great nation!

Ben , Dartmouth , NH

Anybody with even the slightest understanding of economics knows that protectionism does not create jobs. Here's an idea: get an education.

Sam Adams, Boston, Massachusetts

To Zheng Li In China, your response cracked me up! Good one! Really, who cares, it's just a flag. I love living in America but I'm not going to stress over fabric. I think my flag was made in Indonesia.

Todd, Dayton, USA/OHIO

We still helped save Europe from Hitler, and Communism, and freed many women in Afghanistan from abuse. We dumped millions of dollars into rebuilding Europe under the Marshall plan. We stopped the spread of Communism into South Korea. We rebuilt Japan after they attacked us... two thriving economies today. The American people are the largest givers of foreign aid and charity in the world. I wish the world would show us some respect instead of hatred. Regarding global warming, check into the correlation between climate "change" and the solar cycle. Even Mars is warming up these days. Get your anti-American propaganda correct.

Mike, Northbrook, IL, USA

It's Larry Haws btw and he is also a Democrat (and my rep).

I know it's hard to admit Great Briton is no longer relevant but bashing us incessantly won’t change it. Maybe a bit of protectionism on your part would do you some good before you go completely down the toilet.

Bubba, St. Cloud , MN

The story of Betsy Ross having sewn the first Stars and Stripes surfaced publicly in 1870 and was based on earlier, written depositions by her relatives. There is no contemporary evidence from 1777 or thereabouts for or against her having sewn the first flag. It may very well be true, but to the extent that it is accepted as part of the story of the American Revloution it is, surely, reasonable to regard it is a 'myth' in the strict sense, something not necessarily true or untrue, but of symbolic and narrative importance.

Frank Upton, Solihull,

I'd be interested to hear if this runs afoul of any free market/trade agreements. Otherwise, while certainly a pro-US job/patriotic gesture, I'd label this as easy political gamesmanship.

These kinds of stunts are a lot easier than dealing with issues like education, health care, net neutrality, privacy, and the like. All of which the states have the power to change for the better.

Jay, Chicopee, MA, USA

Sure, buy that US-made flag... and then on your next outing you'll buy a Chinese-made bicycle at some American megastore without even applying similar logic!

We need better education such that the next generation understands the risks in having such a high trade deficit. We can't fault China -- WE created this mess.

I'm a 2X war veteran but even I feel guilty about hoisting the flag now and then when I think that we wiped out Native Americans to establish "our country."

Toy, Bellevue, WA

At the risk of introducing another note of irony into this stimulating 'debate' - the Union and Hong Kong flags flown and lowered at the Handover Ceremony on June 30th 1997 in the Hong Kong Convention Centre were specially made from silk in the USA! Free Trade really should be a two way street chaps, dontcherthink?

Turks & Caicossian, Providenciales, Turks & Caicos Islands

Then why does Minnesota require all workers to be illegal aliens?

Makes NO sense.

Linda, Harvard,

What frothing ingrates my countrymen are. If they left their back yards for once and saw that there was a great, wide world beyond their bubble of infantile innocence, they might check their dangerous nationalism. Here's to the death of nations!

Antipatriot, Boston, Massachusetts

Why does this anger Americans? Why would you want a flag manufactured anywhere else? Do you not want to employ American citizens, create jobs, promote our economy, keep individuals off of welfare and community assistance? Or, is it that you'd rather the Chinese earn the income, support their citizens, continue to help their economy thrive while watching the United States stay stagnate? Tell me why this is wrong?

Ashley, Edina, MN

Funny, the Right is accused of wrapping themselves in the flag when they try to make it illegal to burn them, but now the left is passing laws against importing them. The result: the price of flags made with expensive American labor goes up, and it gets more expensive to be flag-burner.

Maybe a pro-flag burning party will emerge to counter this trend and keep the supply of cheep imported flamable flags flowing.

R. Bowman, Detroit, Michigan

Lee from Houston writes:

"There's nothing stupid about having a sense of patriotism."

Examined more closely, patriotism is essentially inverted xenophobia combined with self-superiority based on what patch of ground your parents decided to copulate on.

When will Americans join the 21st century?

CD, Belfast,

"I thought the British were our friends. "

Friends can criticise each other without falling out. Friends does not mean constantly saying "yes" and "amen" and not always going "how high" when the other person/country says "jump".

starling, Lancaster,

Try Googling "Made in USA". There is no such country as "America", only a continent.

Barth Glumm, Rankin, Ill,

...Let me list a few other things that we need to make sure are made in America: Fish, toothpaste, animal food, soap and everything else that America should make at home and shouldn't need to import...I have boycotted anything Chinese because I don't agree with their practices and attitudes. The Chinese need to respect others in their fight to become the manufacturing nation of the world.

Portia , FL, USA/ExPat,

"Five words to Australia: We're Not Under A Queen.
Yumiko, Seattle, WA, USA"

No you are under a bush....pretty close.

bill, sydney, Aus

One of the most inspirational stories involves a Lieutenant Colonel John Dramesi, United States Air Force, who was held almost six years in North Vietnam's Hanoi Hilton prison. At exceptional personal risk, he hand-stitched a US Flag from the bits and pieces he could gather. Upon his 1973 release, he smuggled his precious flag out and brought it home. It is beneath contempt that Minnesota's narrow-minded morons would ban Lt Col Dramesi's flag, or ANY US flag! Anyone supporting this law deserves flogging.

LTC (Ret) Bob Stackhouse, Ellicott City, Maryland

Hey Colin,
you make some great points, but let me remind you... The Brits have been utterly defeated in Basra. They are pulling out in ignominious defeat and retreating to one base near the Basra Airport. So their Union Jack doesn't fly in Basra as much as it gets trampled on by the Shiite militas.

Way to tough it out, Brits!

William, Cleveland, USA

somepeople--THE "DRACONIAN", your spelling is wrong, Burma is not "Bhurma"

hong, beijing, China

I always thought the Americans were our friends, but this perfectly inoffensive article seems to have brought out all the foaming-at-the-mouth "we saved your butts in two world wars" Brit-haters! America's position in the world today was established through free trade, and also through the enormous boost to its manufacturing industry provided by arms manufacture and other production during the second world war. Getting involved in the European war was good business for the USA. It's free trade that made America, so it is a principle that the USA should continue to uphold. Isolationism, as proposed by some here, would do more harm than good to the USA.

Martin Evans, Newmarket, Suffolk

America is just doing what the English would like to do if it wasn't so concerned with political correctness. Having recently returned from living in the UK, it's amazing just how often the talk quickly turns to Britain having lost it's identity - this is, after all, a country where not even Scotland Yard can fly the Union Jack without a government directive. While the US does itself no favours on the world stage with its protectionism trade (just how many farmers in countries across the glabe have you guys brought their knees) - and often goes overboard with its rhetoric about being the best country in the world - I think it's a smart move for any economy to promote homegrown trade where possible. Of course, we'd all be living in la la land if we think the yanks will start to build up Iraq's economy and then award contracts to Iraqi-owned businesses!

Adrian, Sydney, Australia

Everyone shut up and read what Louise from Brighton said!

Well said, brother. I agree.

Ozz, DAYTONA BEACH, USA

The new Chinese middle class likes to buy designer products. Why don't we made some designer Chinese flags and export them to China.

Keith, San Francisco, CA

Once more, politicians missing the bigger point with their shallow pandering that sounds good on the surface. I would think this nation would want as many people as possible outside the US to see our flag of freedom!

Dean, Kingman, AZ

I cannot believe how many American readers (or at least those who commented) are exercised about this article. Seriously guys - chill out! The article wasn't overly derogatory towards American citizens or US policy, and the word draconian can actually mean 'very severe' or 'rigorous' - i.e. robust, all the journalist is saying is that Minnesota has taken the harshest approach in implementing the law.

Although, Tom's maybe got a point - I understand that some DUI (drunk driving) offences in Minnesota are considered misdemeanor punishable by up to 90 days & a $1000 fine (and license suspension too I think). Does having a Chinese made flag as serious an offence as drunk driving? What a crazy thing....

Kate, London,

I think you should sell Chinese made flags alongside US made flags and let the buyer decide how patriotic he or she is (presumably the Chinese made flags will be cheaper than the US made flags).

Also I don't see why the comments from the US readers are so negative towards the British - as far as I can see the article is objective and not judgmental.

sonny, london,

Something for Americans to think about - the amount of good consumed in the USA dwarfs the amount of goods that the US workforce is capable of producing. This manifests itself as an enormous trade deficit. If you abandon free trade and become protectionist, your economy will collapse.

Joe, London,

The "evidence" that Betsy Ross made the first US flag is based purely on statements produced by her descendants almost a century later.

There is no evidence from ANY other source - not one of the signatories of the Declaration of Independence mentions it, nor is there anything mentioned in official US records of the time.

Alan, Edinburgh, UK

Competition is fine in case someone makes a better product The Chinese invasion is not about better products, it's all about sending jobs to a people-factory. There are so many Chinese, they will work for $0.20 an hour, no unions with outrageous demands, no EPA regulations, no problem. That's why so many American "manufacturers" use this over-supply of cheap labor to increase their profits. Everyone is up in arms against immigrants, protecting their jobs, but have no problem with the "Made in China" labels on pretty much everything they buy. It would make so much more sense to buy American when available, and keep the money in circulation. I know a lot of fine American manufacturers who produced excellent goods, provided many jobs, supported their local communities, only to be forced out by greedy speculators. They buy the business, fire the local workers and send all jobs to Asia. If every now and then you choose to buy American, the job you save might be your own.

Stan, nyc, usa

"I don't see what all the fuss is about. I'm British and try to buy British whenever I can"

Whenever you can. But if you can't, you don't. And nobody will fine you or put you in jail if you don't.

starling, Lancaster,

I think about those who work in the factories in China that produce the "Stars and Strips". What do they think when they ship out thousands upon thousands of those flags. Or the thousands of Union Jacks or the Southern Cross? Maybe they think "Geez, those folks love their country also".

30 years ago I worked for a company that made Michigan brand earth moving equipment (in Michigan). One summer while driving on a new portion of highway I noticed that the equipment was Komatsu! Not even the State of Michigan was buying our equipment. I got a job working for a bank; that company is history (we do have an employee reunion every other year though).

Gene Clem, Kalamazoo, MI, USA

There are plenty of American made flags, but guess what? The shoppers at Mal Mart always buy the cheaper foreign made ones.

Biff Bullington, bergun, ma

WOW… It’s amazing the emotions raised by one politician simply helping a contributor that manufactures flags.

Mike, Minneaplois, MN, USA,

If patriotic Americans cared about Iraqi people/economy as much as their flags, the Iraq war would have been won long time ago.

Mohammed, London, UK

I wish in spain , my home country, there would be the same patriotism as in the USA. American flags for american people.!And chinese industry copy less!!!

Jorge, Barcelona, Spain

All the people bashing Brits and Americans and Canadians on here should grow up.
The story is interesting because it's about nationalism and the extreme national image - a national flag. A decent person at least tries to respect fellow races - especially when we are allies with our sons and brothers dying alongside each other as we bicker behind computer screens!
People should stop generalizing about other nationalities - afterall neither Britian, American nor Canada are perfect.
We should be trying to help each other and build on our strengths. These playground fights are an embarrassment.

louise, brighton, uK

"Does England use a good number of Americans?"

Of course not, American actors just aren't as good.

Anyway, your reaction, and that of other Americans on here is rather disturbing. Being locked up for buying the wrong brand? They used to do that in the DDR.

starling, Lancaster,

@Jack, Washington, DC

Of course, Fox News is the standard for impartial, accurate reporting.

Robert Thé, London, UK

For those of you that say China doesn't support terror, think Tienanmen Square. No, terror doesn't have to be just one category.

As for the person in China that says you will just change the label to made in the USA. Sorry, it is an import law in the US that requires products to say where they are made. Therefore, ALL the flags that you label incorrectly will get rejected. Even in the states that allow flags made in China.

As to those commenting about us reading a British pare, I have several comments. First, it is a British paper commenting about US policy that does not effect England. Unless they are going to start making US flags. Second, we do read papers from around the world to get a sense of what i happening . Also, it makes it so I am against sending so much foreign aid. Interesting that so many people hate us, yet are SO eager to put their hands out when there is money involved. ALL of the EU doesn't give as much as th US.

Rob, IL, USA

There's nothing xenophobic, isolationist, or raving (by the way, that's precisely why we read a British online news source because we're none of those things) about wanting to have at least the country's flag actually made inside of the country.

No one is saying that everything has to be made here. And no one is rubbing anything in anyone else's face. We just love our country and want what's best for it. So what if we want to "protect" what's ours, and our way of life? Sometimes you have to take a stand, even if the Know-it-all(s) don't like it.

You all want to "tsk tsk" at us about xenophobia & isolationism? Please! Take a look at what's happening in your own back yard, and then tell us what [unlimited] liberal inclusiveness has gotten you? Americans will fight for their country on multiple levels. "Others" will simply give theirs away.

Lee, Houston, TX

What is made in America? I bet the ones made in America are made from fabric imported from China and little tooth picks from some other 3rd world country. Cost of materials 1cent, cost for a Union worker to put the 1cent ietms together, $5.00 (gotta pay for their heathcare and high salary). In the end, the tax payers have to pay for the Union's salary for we all know government money is the peoples taxes. Just the Democrats trying to pay of the Unions that divert money from their members to get Dems elected.

fred, deluth, mn

Xenophobia is a terrible thing.

Larry Old, charleston, sc

hear hear for America!!!
Its time someone takes pride in the industries within the country!!
Maybe some of our vocal British anti-americans will takes notice when they find their dole cheques processed in India!!!

Bill, New York City, USA

I'd be much more concerned about food ingredients that come from China instead of a flag.

Hey Brits-- you all have some interersting crisps (chips)--I am still waiting for the fried chicken-flavored crisps to show up here in the USA.

marytee, Detroit, USA

What does 'Made in America' mean? Does the material have to be made in America, and the stick? What about the staple? If all those are from foreign countries and they are put together in America, then are they made in America?

What about WHO makes them? Do they have to be citizens? Can they be aliens, legal or illegal?

If your politician has time to debaste these issues then they have TOO much time on their hands.

Angelo Gitliani, Stillwell, OK

I bought a nice flag a few years back, and was glad to see it was made in the USA. But almost anything else I need is pretty much made in China, Mexico, Taiwan, Japan, Malaysia, etc...except maybe food because I buy local as much as I can. As much as I'd like to see American companies succeed, there is a reason why they are all closing and moving operations elsewhere. Between high labor/healthcare/retirement costs for workers, dealing with unions, and all the environmental protections, it's far easier to go to the 3rd world to manufacture almost anything. Plus the quality is comparable in most cases (except maybe the food issues and a few really cheap electronics). Even the so-called American car companies build a bunch of their cars in other countries and ship them in...while Toyota, Mercedes, Hyundai, and BMW now build here. It's a global economy, get used to it...because it's not going away. Now, who wants cheese for their whine?

John, Blacksburg, VA, US

You Brits! Honestly, you have to understand that we, too, have collective ideals that reach across party lines. The american flag signifies the dawning of our democracy. How can we let a communist regime rife with human rights violations manufacture symbols of freedom? i have been boycotting China for a while now. Aside from that, The flag should be made by its people and by no one else. Or maybe you would like George Clooney or Brad Pitt to take over the role of James Bond? Get it? Clearly, some things are cherished and shouldn't be pimped-out to the lowest bidder. Old Glory Deserves the best!

Brian, Savannah, Georgia, USA

Well, if anyone knows draconian, it's the folks who ruled Ireland, Bhurma, and India.

I'm not a huge flag waving patriot here, but I see both sides. This is a microcosm of the issues facing US manufacturing everywhere. We cannot compete with what basically amounts to slave labor.

As so the smug Britons here who have invoked Iraq (HG from London), last time I checked, it was a Union Jack, and not Old Glory, flying over Basra.

I'm a liberal (though not laissez faire), but I believe that if China wants to stop U.S. protectionism, it should truly liberalize; FREE FLOAT the yuan, allow organized labor, improve environmental/health/safety conditions for workers. Then we'll see who "competes" with the U.S..

Collin, Eau Claire,, WI

Union's make flags - Democrats have the Unions under their rap - Law like this by Demcrats is just a way or funneling money to their base.

Has nothing to do about being a patriot - they are just diverting our money to their base

fred, deluth, mn

I wonder how many of the hotheads sounding off actually fly the flag or have a clue about US flag etiquette and traditions. The flag is our most sacred national symbol: it is the single most powerful unifying image in a huge nation with enormous regional, ethnic, and philosophical differences. The rituals attached to raising, lowering, flying, folding, and carrying the flag are extremely simple and very moving. I understand the sentiment behind "Made in the USA," but the jingoism behind this legislation is stupid. So are the pot-shots embedded in this article--more standard anti-US junk from a smart-aleck with overactive tendons around his patellae. You guys would have gone down without us in WW2--and a lot of our guys were in your uniforms BEFORE Pearl Harbor. My daughter is a dual US/UK national. I used to fly both flags, but I think I'll give yours a rest. At Yorktown, the tune played while your flag was lowered was "The World Turned Upside Down." Get over it.

Anne Armitage, Beverly, MA USA

At least we can fly our flag. There is no England anymore. The red cross on a white field is racist or some such garabage. Why don't you Brits just give up the pound, adopt a French-German constitution, cut your military some more, and just sit back and let America protect you along with the rest of the sheep in the world. The Canadien sheeple don't seem to mind it so much.

Midwest Jay, Minneapolis, MN USA

Yo RGR,
Many of us neanderthals read foreign papers because it's been our voters and taxpayers that have relieved the EU of the burden of military self-defense. Somebody has to mind the store. Surprising that you come from one of the only western countries with enough sense to stay relevant.

Funny, too, that this forum is almost certainly taking place on a computer server in guess where...?
(oh, and well-said rockycreek TX)

Jeff, New York, USA

Some of the comments here, and indeed the author of the article, infer that requiring that American flags be made in the USA is hypocritical and anti-trade. The premise seems to be that importing the flag is simply an exercise of economic freedom. However, isn't it more ironic that American flags, a symbol of freedom throughtout the world, are being made in a country that is not free - China. What if bibles were printed in a country where the citizens were not allowed to worship Jesus? Oh wait, they already are! Capitalism without morality leads to chaos.

John Galt, Albuquerque, Tennessee

As long as we have the right to perform the ultimate act of government protest, burning the flag, it matters not where it is manufactured.

Rossman, Chicago, IL

so instead they're going to have some illegal immigrants in the US making them?

Ben, London, England

This is just more political garbage.

If someone in politics would do something meaningful and constructive to balance the international labor markets instead of pasiing useless laws that will be ignored because they are impossible to enforce, then maybe the rest of the world would stop thumbing their collective noses at us.

The comment from Zheng Li is more truthful than this ridiculous law could ever hope for.

Larry Miller, Peoria, IL

"So much for the Champions of free trade. If you are so good put your money where your mouths are and compete!

John, London, UK"

This coming from a citizen of the most protective "economic community" in the world (the EU).

Mark, Washington, DC

Great news. I didn't r4ealize this was happening in various states, especially one close to me. I'm happy that someone has forged the way to say NO to foreign "stuff". They may not have a "super bowl" foot ball team like Wiisconsin, but in this matter they have made sense that I hope catches on throughout the USA! Go Pack.....

John Feltz, Junction City, Wisconsin

I have a question to those Brits wondering why some of us Americans are reading an online British "newspaper" . Why do you care what laws WE make and put it in your online news section? Don't you have better things to do with your British lives......like finding a good orthodontist?

You should be so lucky to live in a country where patriotism is a GOOD thing.

Traci, Michigan, USA

There's nothing xenophobic, isolationist, or raving (by the way, that's precisely why we read a British online news source because we're none of those things) about wanting to have at least the country's flag actually made inside of the country.

No one is saying that everything has to be made here. And no one is rubbing anything in anyone else's face. We just love our country and want what's best for it. So what if we want to "protect" what's ours, and our way of life? Sometimes you have to take a stand, even if the Know-it-all(s) don't like it.

You all want to "tsk tsk" at us about xenophobia & isolationism? Please! Take a look at what's happening in your own back yard, and then tell us what [unlimited] liberal inclusiveness has gotten you? Americans will fight for their country on multiple levels. "Others" will simply give theirs away.

Lee, Houston, TX

I don't think Americans are xenophobic as previously stated, when all they want is a home made product to celebrate their national holiday. What is being displayed is national pride and I wish us Brits would have more of it on our national holiday.

K Baran, London,

"If the Americans commenting on this site are so patriotic why are youreading and commenting on articles in a BRITISH paper?

RGR, Gloucester, UK"

Because it was on the Drudge report?

Ryan Saylor, Stewart, Ohio

Capitalism should not mean economic treason against your own country. The economy of the state of Michigan is decimated because big business goes to communist China for manufacturing jobs. This is one step in the right direction for preserving the livlihood of working class Americans. And sorry, K, from Glasgow, but the British Empire ain't all that innocent either, so what exactly is your point?

Lisa, Chicago, IL, USA

"America has saved Europe twice. I hope we don't get called again."

I seriously wish Americans would stop bringing that old rubbish up. I'm assuming that isn't "we", by the way, unless you're 90 years old.

Does the fact that the US liberated a small part of Europe 60 years ago mean they should be allowed to get away with anything and everything now? That certainly seems to be what people are saying. You might have been all nice 70 years ago, but you're not anymore (well, your government isn't). Geddit? That was then, this is now.

Oh, and why do people believe US propaganda when you have access to stuff like The Times?

starling, Lancaster,

Capitalism should not equal economic treason. This is one step in the direction of preserving the livlihood of working class Americans. I think that the rest of the world knows the American domestic economy is weak and are loving it, so why wouldn't they keep encouraging us to sell out to the Communist Chinese!?

Wendy, Chicago, IL, USA

My flag from WalMart was made in the USA, but what if it weren't?... Will neighbors be sneaking up on other neighbor's front porches late at night, just to look at their flags, to see where they were made?? ...and then call the cops on them, sending them away to jail for 3 months?? What country do we live in??

Dave, Madison, WI

Does that represent American patriotism on their Independence day? Then, how about the patriotic feelings of 71 000 000 Turkish people when in Northern Iraq, Souleimaniye, the US soldiers arrested 11 Turkish ( allied) soldiers and put their heads plastic bags (probably made in Turkey), insulted and even tortured them on July 4, 2003 ? Nobody has forgot this in Turkey, yet. And this is just one of the reasons why the USA lost Turks (so called allies in the area).

hakan ottomann, Ankara, TURKEY

Not sure draconian is the right adjective here... idiotic would fit though. Guess I better buy a new flag now before the law kicks in and they are impossible to find, of poor quality, and overpriced. This is typical Democrat feel-good legislation that is counterproductive. I guess it's the thought that counts.

Bob Smith, Minneapolis, Minnesota USA

Todd...N.C...You don't think the American flag should be made in America?Even if it is red white and blue if it says made in China, it's not American.I don't believe standing up for our principles classifies them as a "nutcase"

Ryan Saylor, Stewart, Ohio

Actually, the Senate passage of a bill requiring a Constitutional amendment would be only the first tiny step towards achieving that amendment. Assuming the identical bill passed the House and was signed by the President, it would then have to pass in two-thirds of U.S. states in order to become an amendment to the Constitution.

The Times article is either uninformed or misleading. It's a lot tougher to change the Constitution than most people think.

I have several flags, made in China, Taiwan, and America. You can't run from the global economy.

passingthru, Richmond, USA/VA

Is this article supposed to be a report or an editorial??? The writer shows enormous bias and appears to be making an argument against the law.

While I'm not sure if I like the law or not, its not the paper's place to tell me what to think.

Nate, Boulder, CO

It's NOT an illegal law, but IS mere symbolism without substance. And who's going to police enforcement? A new agency of "banner gestapo"?

I like what somebody esle said on a blog about this veneer of Americanism........Here's a better idea. How about we ensure all Americans were made in America.

William Rooks, Madison , Wisconsin

It is American to push back when we have had enough, and it is a American independent mind set to produce our on goods & needs by Americans. At present the average middle class American is feed up with the President, the federal government, illegal aliens, any immigration at all from Third World countries, seeing our fellow countrymen unemployed because we won't work for slave wages like communist Chinese people are forced to. They are losing their homes, marriages, children, and we are sick and tired of our government allowing more of our jobs to be shipped overseas. To hell with globalism, fascism, communism, corporatism!! Up with Independent Nationalism in every country!!

There is a tidal wave rising in America that is sweeping from border to border and shore to shore. It is a rebellion against the status quo, and the failed social, economic, and trade policies that the politicians have forced onto us the last fifty years. Nationalism never left us to begin with!

Texas Rebel, Dallas, Texas

So what?

Maybe we should start using American actors/actresses in movies and TV. Does England use a good number of Americans?

Jack Murphy, Jacksonville, USA Florida

Celebrating the 4th by relinquishing freedom seems like an appropriate course of action in this day and age. The land of the brave is fast becoming the land of the fearful. Buy American if you choose. If you buy Chinese, there must be a reason, and the choice is still yours. There is no reason for Daddy government to make the choice for you.

Ken, Rochester, USA

The problem with the democrat side is that they are tied up with the unions.It is these same UAW unions that have all but destroyed the American automakers in the first place.How is that so you ask?Why would anyone in their right mind pay someone full wages and benefits when they haven't worked at the company for nearly a decade?Because the company was forced to sign a union labor contract with this kind of idiocy as a stipulation or risk not having any manpower to run the company.Now you tell me why Toyota is kicking our tails....

Ryan Saylor, Stewart, Ohio

Tom Rukavina doesn't get this much press on the Iron Range
and look at the stir he causing.
This has to be the only bill Gov. Pawlenty didn't veto in the last session.
As for the tag on the Flag, it makes no difference who makes it or where, what does matter is those who choose to respect it. and those who died to protect it.

Buzz Saw, St Paul , Minnesota USA

Honeywell (HON) is making it's upward move towards earnings, on July 16, 2007 an is up over 3.5 percent in two days. You may want to review it's performance. THEY MAKE EVERYTHING INCLUDING SECURITY FOR AIRPORTS, which appears to be in demand, given the attacks in the UK.

bob, plains, pa

Yeah, it's patriotism that is inspiring the left to demand flags be made in the state.

Not another sop to the greedy, selfish unions.

Eric Arthur Blair, long valley, USA

Since China makes American flags, I think this is a good idea. They don't care about putting anti-freeze in our toothpaste, or tainting our pet food, so maybe this is a fair response. It's an eye for an eye kind of thing.

I've choosen right up front to refuse to buy a foreign made US flag. Not because someone makes it a law.

Linda , South Elgin, IL USA

America has saved Europe twice. I hope we don't get called again. I would vote against it. All this America bashing is getting a bit old. At this time the British as well as Europeans are facing the fruits of their foolish behavior by sucking up to the radicals in your midst while they are gathering force against you. America has been subsidizing the world with our money, lives, and now are subsidizing the rest of the worlds nations with a foolish monetary policy allowing a terrible balance trade deficit. This Flag law is far too lenient for me. It should only be a starting point. Our President believes in free trade. The bulk of Americans believe in FAIR TRADE. Violate fair trade and we should stop trading with you. Fair enough.

Jake, Hastings,

It's about time we contribute something useful to American politics.

Chuck, Minneapolis, MN

Typical trash from a pitiful country setting the record on making itself into a 3rd world garbage receptacle. How lucky we are not to be brits.

GM, Portland, Oregon

I think it's about time we protect the jobs of people here, it should be a federal law.

Frank Fawcett, Cameron Park, Ca

As an American, my sympathies of course are with those who favor keeping the jobs here. But at the same time, we're a free market economy. Anyone has the right to manufacture his product anywhere he wants to. While I will never purposefully buy an American flag made anywhere else, I think this law sets an uncomfortable precedent. What if it becomes un-American to buy a banana that was grown in Ecuador? What if Swiss chocolate is undercutting Hershey's? There's a lot of emotion involved in our national pride and love for country. But just check the label and make your own decision. Let's not start chipping away at what makes our economy--and nation--great: freedom.

Jose, San Juan, Puerto Rico

Here's one American who thinks this law is idiotic on just about every level.

Bubba Jo, Jingoton, USA

FANTASTIC!! BIG UPS to MN. Why don't more Americans (i.e. politicians) have the same spirit?

Bobby Hand, Williamsburg, VA

Does anyone care where the flag is made China/US/UK as long as it is the flag of the country being shown!

mo, London, England

The hypocrisy of many Americans is breathtaking. The country which more than any other has benefited from free trade, in the process often ruining the economies of (sometimes very much) poorer countries, can dole it out but it can't take it.

Anne Murphy, London,

Given the slanted news Europeans receive, it is no wonder that they're led around by a self-interested political class baying "America baaaaaaaaaaaaaad."

Isolationism, here we come.

Jack, Washington, DC

>DIsgusting the way these Yanks show such 'national pride'.

They should be more like we British who use our Union Jack flag as the world's doormat.<

And look where it's gotten Great Britain. . . people from all over the world move to the UK just so they can use you as a doormat.

Pity.

Frankly, this bit of protectionist foolishness, while well-intended, serves no real purpose other than to puff up a few politicians standing for the next election.

But at least we don't INVITE people to wipe their feet on our flag. It's a shame you Brits do.

Lawrence Standifer Stevens, Dallas, Texas

Judging by the comments from Americans here, it would seem like capitalism and the free market are going out of fashion in the US of A. Why not go the whole hog and take up communism?

Matthew, Ringwood, UK

Don't tell me what I can or cannot buy. I'm an adult AND a patriot. If our politicians are so concerned with "Made in USA " products, then why do they enact laws making it profitable (and legal) for our companies to ship our jobs outside the US rather than keep them in our borders? Sounds like hipocrytes to me!!!

Why are Minnesota congressmen occupying themselves with this? As if there aren't WAY more important issues to tackle! Jobs, health care, constitutional rights anyone!???

Neil W., Champlain, USA

It would be nice for all flags to be made in America, but sorry, a law like this destroys what America stands for, and that is a free market, where competition drives the market, NOT LAW! It is the consumers responsibility to buy flags made in the country of their choice. The government does not have the constitutional authority to enact such a law. Sorry, this is not the land of Oz. Why not we educate ourselves more, get better paying jobs, and let those in China make our flags for a low price, see that they are making a symbol of democracy and the free market and we will all be happy.

Avrom Kohn, Huntington Beach, California - USA

American flag = War for oil; war for arms amd defence firms; Gitmo; Abu Ghraib; torture; unashamed capitalism; exploitation of the poor; Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld; helping to prolong the suffering of the palestinian people; etc.

Sam, Glasgow,

Sounds a lot like Nazi Germant to me, lets fly the symbol everywhere and now that have to be made here too!!! Look at film of the mass Nazi rallys with flags everywhere!!!

And here's me thinking in the land of the free, you can choose what you want to buy. Yet more American hyprocracy in action!

Paul Mills, London,

I don't see what all the fuss is about. I'm British and try to buy British whenever I can and there's certainly nothing wrong in attempting to acquire a home made product on what is a very symbolic day for our Amercian cousins especially into today political climate.

In fact i believe us Brits should take lesson in patriotism because after all our April 23rd is a mere damp squib compared to the preparation, organisation and atmosphere of July 4th. How do I know? I left Blighty and all of you cynics for Seattle many years ago.

Happy July 4th. From A Brit.

K Baran, Seattle,

Hey RJR:
The Drudge Report is the ONLY reason we'd ever read a British Paper in the US!

Scott, Minneapolis, MN

Uh, perhaps the average Brit is unaware that the US has been running a stupendous trade imbalance with China for way too many years. This wholly symbolic gesture only serves to show the american citizen's impatience with the Chinese regime in fully opening its markets to american firms while flooding ours with cheap goods which hurt american jobs. That's not the kind of trading any nation needs.

Mark, Calcasieu Parish, Louisiana

Whatever works, let me know when you people are done and maybe we' ll have time to help people feed and clothe themselves.

Mark, Wichita,

why is the rest of the world concered so much about this .Do you think China would fly thier flag if it was made in New York ? I love the U.S.A .And i am proud to be from Minnesota.

MR.red,white and blue, North Branch, Minnesota U.S.A.

What's to say that the flags would actually be made by American workers and not Chinese/Mexican etc imigrants???

Mark, York, England

When exactly was the 'Golden Age' of America? It has never had an empire apart from a few islands in the Pacific. It came into the World Wars 3 years late both times (by the time the troops arrived). It has only been a country for 200 years - nothing in the 'bigger picture'. They won the Cold War because the USSR collapsed. True, it has embodied many Western ideals, but that is a testament to great individuals rather than a nation. China on the other hand has millenia of history, culture, invention and civilisation. Grow up!!!

Ben, York,

Envy feeds resentment, and it always comes out in petty anti-American sniping like these. No bother, we still value our cousins over the water. ;-)

Jack Maloney, Saint Paul, MN USA

Great. So our cars, clothes, electronics, drugs, and people come from other places, but our flag has to be "Made in the USA?" Anybody for some Freedom Fries?

And to the person wondering why Americans are reading a British newspaper: it's because we love y'all so much!!

Chris Johnson, Augusta, Georgia

God bless America. Home of the brave, land of the free.

Fabio C, London, UK

Wow (regarding the posts to this article). I thought the British were our friends. Silly me. I like reading British articles to get a new perspective on things. It also can enlighten you to how much hatred people have for the US. Including Britain. Sad, really. For all our faults, America still comes out on top. That's eating you alive with envy.

KC, Houston, TX

Howdy Brits!
Hear Hear for the YANKS...at least they are TRYING to hold their own culture together while Europe struggles constantly.
The USA has always been a melting pot albeit a PATRIOTIC ONE....it's Europe that has forgotten itself and who their REAL FRIENDS ARE....Hey RGR's never heard of The Drudge Report? That's why most folks "look" at a British paper.FYI

Wally, MiniappleLips, MN

Way to go, Minnesota! This almost makes up for Paul Wellstone (rest in peace) and Jesse Ventura.

Draconian? No doubt the Chinese economy will be devastated by this move. It's well known that the Minnesota flag market was the bedrock on which it rests. I'm certain the Chinese will now re-think their entire positions on slave labor, personal freedoms, human rights, Maoism, quality control, etc. And for the Minnesotans? I know they won't take this lying down. There will be rioting in the streets of Eden Prairie by sundown.

Here's hoping the British had a peaceful 4th of July.

rockycreek, Austin, Republic of Texas/USA

Hey great idea! Why stop at flags - let's also make buying foreign cars illegal so our poorly run auto industry can have a chance to compete. Oh wait, I guess it's ok since our govement will probably bail them out anyway. I don't mind though, I love spending my tax dollars on failing American businesses - anything to subsidize American / Mexican labor!

Wake up America.

Mike, New York, NY

I've 'googled' "made in America". Very little there as far as American co's and products. I was so disappointed and very angry. No longer shop at Wal Mart, everything is 'made in China'.
No longer buy ANY product that says, "product of Mexico". I'd rather go without thank you very much!
So kudos to Minnesota. You go guys!!!! To those non-U.S. commenter's ; when it comes to our flag and patriotism, mind your own friggin' business.

Janis, Marysville, Washington

Minnesota is just one of 50 states in the United States. One out of 50 relatives in any family is a nutcase, so cut us some slack please?

Todd, Charlotte, NC, USA

good job!

everything here is being replaced by foreign products...i rather pay extra for US made flag then pay the salary of people that dont even live here and want to exploit everything possible with thier 'slave-labor' made products

DontMatter, USA,

Has anyone considered the role of punctuation in patriotism? I found all the American's arguements much less provocative when I simply removed all the exclaimation marks.

H.Waland, Glasgow, Britain

Wow, I'm usually very pro-Amercian but look at these comments! So defensive about draconian and american mythology.....what's so bad about that? The journo wasn't being insulting? Grow up!

Henrietta Forbes Hamilton, London, UK

It's an illegal law. Only the federal government can set trade policy. And state legislators should have something better to do than make "statements" by passing laws that they know the courts will overturn.

Robert Peterson, Milwaukee, Wisconsin

I think I speak for many patriotic Americans when I say we need to support home manufacture of the flag. From the condecending tone of the author it is clear that he has no strong sense of nationalism toward his home country which I assume is the UK. It is truely a shame that a once proud Britian has lost its identity and national soul. Hopefully it does not continue here, stopping runaway immigration before we loose our national identity is of the utmost importance. For Europe it is too late I fear.

Clark , San Diego, CA, USA

RE: Thank you conservatives....

Please read this telling statement in the article:The Democrats, in particular, have become increasingly concerned about preserving manufacturing jobs that they believe are being destroyed by free trade and cheap foreign imports.

Does this point to CONSERVATIVES as the reason?

I support anything that will help preserve American jobs. Of course, any factories are probably filled with illegal employees.

D Smith , Dallas, Tx

If the MN law demands that only state money be used to buy flags made in the US, that might be OK.
But passing a law telling me where I can or cannot buy a flag is unamerican.

pdq1111, Tampa, FL

I know. Why don't US citizens donate the money they would've spent on flags to a charity that helps pick up the pieces of their nation state's illegal military misadventures.
Then force municipal flag wavers to recycle their old flags to partially compensate for that country's regrettable recalcitrance to sign-up to the environmentally obvious.
And hey presto, this irrelevant and antiquated debate disappears.

HG, London, UK

Our country (Canada) has been decimated by US manufacturing subsidies, farm subsidies and other related controls...yet when we try to invoke "patriotism" and control our economy we are told by these US patriots that were are impeding the freedom of the marketplace and are threatened with sanctions.,.America the world is in "awe" of you.. NOT

Jim Boles, Toronto, Canada

I have never read such a load of anally retentive views on a flag. just because you're patriotic (and there's no harm in that to a degree) you insists on having everything made in your own country and boycotting the world's trading. why do you think your country's goods are so cheap anyway? it's because you trade so highly with china and the world's market's that you can keep this sense of freedom you so much go on about.

Your country is unaccepting of the rest of the world the majority of the time and you're the first to criticise everyone else but you will nearly never criticise yourselves. You love being the biggest nation in the world and your attitude's are one of "we rule the world and have no tolerance of other nation's".

I hope you enjoy your home-made flags whilst you remember the origins of most of your daily-use products.

Laura, UK,

Since China makes American flags, I think this is a good idea. They don't care about putting anti-freeze in our toothpaste, or tainting our pet food, so maybe this is a fair response. It's an eye for an eye kind of thing.

I've choosen right up front to refuse to buy a foreign made US flag. Not because someone makes it a law.

Linda , South Elgin, IL USA

We in China also make flags with ' made in usa' tags!

Zheng Li, Wang Zhang, Beijing, China

I am from Minnesota and rarely have I been so proud to be a Minnesotan!!! This is a great thing and if others don't like it, who cares? God Bless America....

C, Mineapolis, Minnesota</