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The tactics of police in Florida who Tasered a cheeky student as he tried to question former presidential candidate Senator John Kerry have been called into question after a video of the incident was posted on the internet.
The officers responsible have been suspended on full pay while the debate rages over whether the student was a victim of police brutality or an attention-seeking prankster who got what he deserved.
The student, Andrew Meyer, who was well-known on campus for his practical jokes, was Tasered after jumping the queue to ask Mr Kerry a series of questions in a Florida University lecture hall on Monday.
Event organisers were unhappy with his line of questioning and switched off the microphone as police officers moved in to escort him out of the hall.
Mr Meyer refused to leave quietly, and as police officers grabbed him, he repeatedly tried to wriggle free while shouting: “What did I do?”
After a scuffle, the police fired several thousand volts into Mr Meyer, but not before he coined a new slogan for the YouTube generation: “Don’t Tase me, bro!”
Video of the incident was posted on websites, attracting student laughter, right-wing fulmination and, of course, T-shirt merchandise. Half a million people have watched the original post and the footage was replayed by television channels around the world.
Mr Kerry has criticised the arrest of Mr Meyer, suggesting that he could have dealt with the heckler himself.
"In 37 years of public appearances, through wars, protests and highly emotional events, I have never had a dialogue end this way. I believe I could have handled the situation without interruption,” he said.
Mr Meyer was released yesterday after a night in the cells, while students protested outside the police station claiming police brutality had been used.
He was arrested on charges of resisting an officer and disturbing the peace but the State Attorney’s Office has yet to make the formal charging decision.
Mr Meyer’s lawyer, Robert Griscti, said it appeared his client had been shocked after handcuffs had been put on him.
Bernie Machen, the University of Florida president, said that the episode was “regretful”. He placed the campus officers involved on leave and asked for a state probe of police actions.
Students at the university organised a protest yesterday and marched on the police station shouting “Don’t Tase me, bro” and demanding that stun guns were banned from campus.
Benjamin Dictor, an arts student, called for the officers to be disciplined and the charges against Mr Meyer to be dropped.
“For a question to be met with arrest, not to mention physical violence, is completely unacceptable in the United States, especially in the halls of education,” Mr Dictor said.
Not everyone has sided with Mr Meyer. Critics have suggested that the entire incident was a planned attempt to win attention for a student who has already posted dozens of videos of himself on his website www.theandrewmeyer.com.
Indeed the video of the arrest was taken on his own camera, which he had brought to the John Kerry Q&A session.
Police claimed that Mr Meyer’s behaviour was very different when the camera was no longer rolling. One officer told the Associated Press that Mr Meyer asked, “Are you taping this? Do you have this? You ready?” before beginning his questions.
So he was arrested on the charge of disturbing the peace and resisting an officer? First of all, when did asking a question during a question & answer session start being categorized as "disturbing the peace"? And second of all, the second charge makes no sense if the first one doesn't, because that raises the question of "why were they arresting him in the first place"? What were they going to charge him with? This guy could have made a much stronger point if he'd just kept his cool..
Sarah, Russellville, AR
Oh my god. Anyone who believes this is ok needs to take a good look at our constitution. Freedom of speech. He was asking Keery a couple of questions I would ask if I was given the opportunity. So basically what your saying is that excessive force is necessary when someone makes the wrong comment or asks the wrong question. He should of been allowed to stand at that mic and ask whatever he wanted. Thats our right as US CITIZENS.
Michele Martinez, Tacoma, Wa
Authorities have often used extreme responses when confronted with radical aspects of liberal democracy. Communist, Fascist and Nazi critics of Western democracies commonly labeled Western democratic values as decadent, their people too soft, too vocal, too pleasure-loving, too selfish. To stop this social decay within their own borders their usual means of communication was through physical force and wide-spreading of fear. Sound familiar? The police attack on Meyer is symbolic of the modern day America the rest of the world fears. Not just for their bizarre methods of control but more-so for their growing lack of it.
RJ Fearn, Sandnes, Norway
I think the authorities did the right thing for doing a great job.
His lucky not to have been in Saudi Arabia, he could be have been shot or hanged for that type of behaviour. Andrew Meyer you need to think before you act and have a good look at yourself and build some self esteem if you want to get ahead in life. Don't try to get your 3 mins of fame by being disrespectful to others. Andrew ,Don't Crap Me On Bro!!!
Stav, Melbourne, Australia
So the hell what if the guy was grandstanding?! What if he were in league with neo-Nazis?! Him being tazered was completely inappropriate! He was not violent, he was asking a question and his mic was cut. Even Kerry was disgusted by this obvious police brutality. People have the right to grandstand, try to enhance their reputations, and ask candidates embarassing questions without being arrested by the police and shocked. But, of course, the question was a good and appropriate one.
Frederic Bourgault-Christie, Grass Valley, California USA
i'm tired of people thinking they can act anyway they want for 15 mins of fame. andrew meyer has the same train of thought as a paris hilton. wants fame without success. the police did react harshly, but maybe he'll think twice about ruining an event for others just for a 2 minute sound bite.
missy, cincinnati, oh
This is disgusting. Thats all there really is to say. So much for the American Constitution.
Jenna M, Highlands, Scotland
He probably wanted the camcorder recording, so that he could get John Kerry's answer to the questions that he (Mr. Meyer) was asking. Sounds to me like Mr. Meyers was attempting to uncover the truth about some things that the general public might need answered. Btw. The police officers told him to put his hands behind his back very early into this argument, in order to cuff him.
Daniel, Clinton, OK
i don't especially care why this man was arrested, but the way the whole thing was handled was shameful. i wouldnt go so far as to say its brutality, but at the very least its amazingly imcompetent. were these police officers not trained in how to talk down a situation like this?
from the video it looked like the guy was asking his question, and then the police just took hold of him and tried to escort him off in silence. it wouldnt have been so hard to explain what they were doing. but, they did it their way and so several police had to to manhandle him to the ground and tase him.
the man may have been hamming it up for the cameras, but he also seemed genuinely bewildered at what was going on.
jemma, london, uk
Wow, what shocks me is that no one in the crowd did anything about it. In a different time, those cops would of had their ass kicked by the crowd. People have got to start standing up for themselves. If someone would have done this to my brother, I would defend him even if it means fighting a cop, because cops are stupid, they are choosen as cops because they will blindly follow orders, even if those orders are to do something inhumane. People have got to start standing up for themselves, stop being afraid, THEY are the ones who should be afraid. Power to the people, nevermind dictators and presidents and their paws (cops).
dont get me, montreal quebec, canada quebec
Looks like another wanna be crapie little actor swinging for the fence. Victims are unsuspecting, he was looking for the action and got more than he wanted; However the first amendment stands tall to defend his right to speek in a peacable manner. It's all about perception, looks to me like he should have had a chance to finish his Q&A. Certain cops just want to pull the trigger, usually the small lightweight female with little fighting power. I have seen women cops start problems they can't handle and there big buddies come to her rescue as she darts out of the combat zone and runs for cover or...the tazer?
Scott, ridgemoore, USA Ca
My daughter came up to me as I was finishing watching the video and asked, "Daddy, why are you crying?"
I told her I hoped that she'd never know why.
I am appalled that this happened, and even more so that no one thought to take any more action than video the incident.
Sadly, the news accounts of this incident portray Mr. Meyer in a poor light. Even the so-called left wing news agencies slant the report against him.
Did I miss something? For what I saw was someone asking questions that he had every right to ask, and prefacing them with information that was pertinent to the questions.
All I know is that if I was John Kerry I'd not have stood on stage blithely answering those questions as the young man in question was tasered. I'd have been up the aisle and to his aid in a heartbeat.
Craig, Saugerties, NY
This is ridiculous. The guy was so excited for a raison. And he asked his questions with to much excitement and a bit of anger because of what happend before. The people of the university knew that he was going to ask some difficult questions so they didn't want to let him speak. Kerry, who I am a big fan of, was giving elaborate answers so the guy who was tased thought he wouldn't get the opportunity to ask his questions. When he passed the other students and asked his question, the police already tried to stop him from asking his question. It 's then that he gets excited even more, afraid of being stopped before he could ask his question. The violence used by the police was uncalled for. THe guy is tiny and there were cops bigger than my appartment so they could have escorted him easily. Very easily without pepperspray and taser. And the law states that he had the right to resist arrest because it was an illegal arrest. And as always, people in power try to portray him as an idiot
christian, gent, Belgium
he may have planed to ask thous questions but how can you plan that, that was so out of line im sick
matt , clinton twp, mi
He might not have been in the right for doing what he did, but Andrew did NOT deserve a tasing. This is ridiculous! It borders dangerously close to police brutality. If he'd been attacking someone or been wielding some sort of weapon, this type of behaviour would have been acceptable, but in this case the police were OUT OF LINE.
Perhaps if they'd allowed Kerry to deal with this so-called disruptor, we wouldn't have such a problem. Sure, the kid wasn't in the right. Sure, he was being a general jerk. But that doesn't mean the police were in the right - they were further into the wrong than Andrew.
Taylor, Longmont, CO
To the individual who asked what I'd do if arrested by an officer of the law in good standing - I wouldn't resist. Resisting ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS makes things worse. Look at where it landed good ol' Drews.
Of course, I avoid getting arrested by not being a pseudo-intellectual attention grabber that disturbs the peace (among other things) to begin with. Keep in mind that this person broke the law not necessarily by what he was doing, but how he went about doing it.
Anybody who thinks the amount of force used was excessive should try to control someone who's resisting and see how easy it is. It's not. Pepper spray isn't advisable in such crowded conditions where it could affect others in close proximity, and a nightstick would definitely be crossing the line. But Mr Tazer was juuust right. That's why cops have them, folks.
Brian A, Kingston,
There is a possibility that he brought the camera and asked those questions because he was afraid of something exactly like what happened, yet still decided to aska question!
It is ridiculous to even assume that his desire to tape his question indicated some sort of "plan" considering no one in their right mind would ever assume that the police and our government would ever be expected to behave in such an outlandish, illegal fashion!
The fact he had the foresight to bring a camera, and make sure that his friend taped his demonstration of FREE SPEECH only brings to mind unquestioned applause so far as i'm concerned. The fact that anyone could actually agree with the way this situation was handled makes my stomach roil and my gag reflex kick in.
And as for resisting arrest - Any citizen has the right to resist and defend himself against false arrest, up too and including taking the officers life! He was arrested on false charges, never struck out, and only tried to flee! Wow!
Nikki Willmeth, Rainier, Washington
police brutality
maria , ny, ny,
This is a very serious and disturbing situation. I condemn the police for their actions. It is completely UNACCEPTABLE in a democratic society.
First, the Police did NOT say why Andrew had been arrested; second, the poor student was only expressing his views and using his human rights appropriately. To question a politician and get taken away amounts to violation of the right to free speech.
THIRD, Andrew was TERRIFIED - how would YOU feel if police started pulling you away, refusing to say what they are arresting you for, and then to TORTURE you with thousands of volts when you became terrified.
It is like a regime where people who question the authority of the dictator or their policies are detained and tortured. Being shot with a Taser amounts to TORTURE. Worse still, Tasers can KILL.
The US public MUST protest against use of violence against innocent people for using free speech.
Those who think that the actions used by police are justified are seriously misguided.
Benjamin Hughes, Wombleton, North Yorkshire
Wow, land of the free and home of the brave, eh?
Hmmm - wow, didnt know that asking a question at a public event was a criminal act.
I am very, very disturbed about the state of democracy in the United States. Very.
Jennine, Vancouver, Canada
He was asked to leave the mic by the organizers of the event. Keep in mind this is also after they made aspecial concession for Andrew Meyer since the event had ended. He then used profanity on the mic. They cut him off and ask him to leave. He then began disturbing the peace, and resisting. He had one handcuff and was flailing it around which it could have hit one of the officers or himself. This is why he was tased. The officers will be found to be in the right.
Wayne, Ragley, Beauregard, Louisiana
"taking tasers away from police would be a mistake, then they are left with fewer non-lethal alternatives."
sure, paul. are you saying that if they hadn't had a taser, the campus police would have been justified in shooting meyer?
presumably not. in this case, they had quite acceptable non-violent (never mind non-lethal) options open to them. whatever you think about his right to free speech (or to be a disruptive jerk), he could have been dealt with calmly, but firmly, with no need for violence.
jem, london, uk
"taking tasers away from police would be a mistake, then they are left with fewer non-lethal alternatives."
sure, paul. are you saying that if they hadn't had a taser, the campus police would have been justified in shooting meyer?
presumably not. in this case, they had quite acceptable non-violent (never mind non-lethal) options open to them. whatever you think about his right to free speech (or to be a disruptive jerk), he could have been dealt with calmy, but firmly, with no need for violence.
jem, london, uk
why why why what did he do in the first place to get arrested. I can't believe that asking questions got him arrested and tasered hehe what a world we live in!!! They should have not asked him to leave. Being annoying is not a crime just because people didn't like what he was saying does not justify being arrested!!!!!
me , charlotte ,
andrea, there are two issues - whether meyer's freedom of speech was unfairly restricted and whether the measures taken to restrain him were excessive.
you state that, had he left quietly when asked, they would simply have taken him outside and no one would be raising a stink about this. you would appear not be concerned that he asked a question that people wanted answered and that kerry was prepared to answer. it would just as fair to say that, had the authorities simply left kerry to answer, meyer would not have been "thrashing and screaming". meyer felt he was wronged in the first place because neither his question nor kerry's answer were being heard.
it is fairly clear that he was not, as you suggest, a potential threat. in any case, by the time he was tased, he had already been restrained. using the taser was totally unnecessary.
given that you started your contribution by stating that you are sick of idiots whining, we understand your approach to free speech.
jem, london, uk
..But where were his Bro students when this was all going on. Taking Pictures! Very helpful to him at that time. In the old days there would have been blown riot - and quite right too.
Peter Wright, London, UK
Police brutality man! Freedom of speech man! Down with the pigs! Give me a break!! Present day "protesters" lack substance, intelligence & reason & this guy should be their poster boy. Being a 60's war protesting hippie turned Libertarian, I find Mr. Myers' behavior and subsequent "Nancy girl" response to the tasering hilarious. Spoiled, rude, self-centered & stupid people like him should be laughed at.
Michael Robinson, Charlotte,
I'm sick of all these idiots whining about "look at the direction of our country". This was NOT a free speech issue. This was a matter of him violently resisting detainment for distrupting an event. You can plainly see they were waiting for authorization to remove him from the event.
Had he complied, had he gone calmly and just shouted his question he would NOT have been tased. Instead, he jerked away from the police multiple times, jumped around, and even lunged away in an attempt to free himself at the end of the walkway. They gave him ample warning about tasing, they told him to calm down.
They are police. What if he had a weapon? They did not beat him, they did not shoot him. He was being physically difficult, he was warned about his behaviour and was tased accordingly. Had he stopped thrashing and screaming after the warning, they would have simply taken him outside and no one would be raising a stink about this.
So stop "weeping" for the US Constitution. The police did their job. They restrained a potential threat, and attempted to remove someone who was disrupting a planned event. I do not doubt in my mind that had he gone with them, no arrest would have been made, much less any tasering.
Andrea, Las Vegas, NV,
oh, dear. yet another comment saying we should be glad the cops have tasers as an alternative to bullets.
are you saying without tasers he might have been shot?
in this instance, the taser was not used as an alternative to bullets, it was used as an alternative to a firm hand (and after he had already been restrained). and, it has to be said, even the firm hand was used an alternative to explaining to him what he had done wrong.
jem, london, uk
I would expect to see this type of thing in Zimbabwe ...
USA is a sham !
Benzo, Nr Chelmsford,
The police didn't over-react. He WAS disturbing the peace, he DID resist the officers. Be GLAD that cops have tasers as an alternative to bullets and nightsticks. I've been tased, and I can tell you from experience it SUCKS. But... no permanent damage. At the end of the day, no big deal. Bro should be happy that's all he got.
Dave Anderson, Brooklyn, NY
I didn't see any excessive force - I think any police force would have dealt with this character in the same way. They were very restrained from what I saw. The student was out of control.
Roland, Auckland, New Zealand
Whilst I believe Meyer was looking for an incident, I believe that incident was to ask John Kerry awkward questions, rather than be tasered. I can't for one moment believe that he sought a tasering. He sought an incident, which was to try and leave Senator Kerry flummoxed and embarrassed. This is not the same as him planning the entire incident, including the tasering.
To the Canadian who says he wasn't tasered, I ask you to revisit the footage,it's clearly audible. You can hear, with clarity, the noise of the taser as it discharges. You can rest assured that had they not tasered him, they wouldn't have been suspended and the Police would have refuted the claims immediately.
Dave, Wirral, England
I cannot believe this! What is the United States doing? If the people in America can NOT have a say then how can we call ourselves a Democracy??? We CANT! I think this is so embarressing and the officers should be on a leave WITHOUT pay and who ever told them to take such action should be punished also! If we don't stop these kinds of things now then it will be harder and harder to keep our rights and freedoms!
Amber, chattanooga, tennessee
I don't agree with what he did, as in my opinion he was obviously seeking attention. He appeared to be being disruptive.
But I also don't agree with him being tasered. Excessive force, anyone?
Jason, Toronto, Canada
This is sick, why do people feel the need to defend those police officers? Do they really believe it's reasonable for police to remove those with conflicting views from political events. How about just having a one political ideology which everyone has to agree to, that sounds fair.
Jon, London, UK
The very fact that an individual is removed/arrested/detained for asking a question of a political figure is without doubt the MOST APPALLING action I have seen in a so called democracy. Whether you agreed with his line of questioning or not is really quite immaterial for it is the actions of the authorities that speaks volumes about the true state of America's highly lauded freedom of speech. This debacle has thrown a huge spotlight on the true state of freedom of speech in America. Disturbing and farcical all round. Wake up America, this is far from democratic behaviour. Its high time Americas politicians and populous stopped taking the moral highground and espousing democracy to the rest of the globe when clearly it is not applying the same in its own backyard
Kurt Luthy, Melbourne, Australia
David Holley makes a tremendous point. Mr Meyer has a reputation but should that prejudice the actions of those around him. Thoughts maybe, but does his past and his reputation warrant a hand on the mic switch and the other on the taser, bro? Sure he cut in line - sure he talks loud enough to be heard without a mic - OK his questions were like bullets from an AK but Mr. Kerry to his credit was trying to save this kid from himself and answer his diatribe. With what, I wonder.
Russ Betteridge, Federal Way, WA / USA
Why was there EVER a need to tase a kid who is already on the ground, being restrained by no less than SIX OFFICERS????? Why is it that members of law enforcement continually do some of the dumbest things possible when there is ANY minor conflict? Obviously, that is a rhetorical question.
TheAndrew is occassionally out-of-line in some of his quests, but there are so many other ways to handle a "cheeky" kid. Kerry said he could handle the question and I'm sure that if he had been allowed to answer even a query THAT odd that the whole situation would have been completely avoided.
The launch party was great, the website is funny, and this episode will make sure that Meyer stays in the national spotlight. Congrats, dude, you did it! See you around!
Maggie G, Gainesville, Florida
He deserved the shock..... he was disrupting the event, was asked to leave and to stop yelling, he continued to resist forcefully... if he would have listened and walked out there wouldn't hve been any problem. He acted even mentally ill and so the officers had to take him out.
It is utterly ridiculous that anyone who has seen the video would think the officers did something wrong.
Bob
Bob, Warren, Ohio, USA
this goes well beyond police brutality - this to me was the turning point. we live in a police state where even asking the real questions can get you in jail. we have to organize to go to the streets NOW! question the police, question goverment and resist this facist government~!
Alex Rodriguez, coral springs, fl
Last time I checke, I don't believe that the police have a right to censor a public forum. Mr. Meyer could have been asking senator Kerry a question as ridiculous as "do you like apple pie?".....Even then, the police have no authority to decide what is appropriate (with the exception of eminent threat or bodily harm).
Many comments have stated that Mr. Meyer was warned repeatedly (once he had been subdued) that he would be tased if he did not ????????????? Did not what?????? Mmmmmm. Sounds strange to me. It looks as if the officer(s) involved lost their cool and let their feelings and emotions get carried away and shocked someone (Meyer) for what they (the police) deemed as insolent behaviour.
Let me say one thing. Most police officers are within their to administer the minimum amount of force to detain someone. However the police DID overstep their boundaries once the male and female officers attempted to romove Mr. Meyer. This is a qutie plainly a breach of the 1st Amend.
Matt Rubinoff, Phoenix, AZ
This incident is, as the president put it, regretful. What has the country come to when our founding laws are trampled upon by our so-called protectors? This incident is not over, not by a long shot. The unnessisary use of force and the disgusting conduct shown by officials will be marked down for future generations.
Casey Johnston, Grover Beach , US / California
What happened to free speech in America? I've seen the video and it looks like he was being pushed away from the mic from the beginning for bringing up the subject of the election and Bush... Is US turning into a police state, or a communist like state?
Bob, Wawa,
whatever happened to free speech!they all listened to kerry why not listen to andrew myer!he wasnt even hurting anyone!so why even taser him?and kerry himself said he would answer the question!what has this world come to?! the innocent go to jail and the criminals roam free! it just doesnt make sense anymore!
Jessica, panama city, florida
Does anyone remember Va Tech? This kid was being loud and obnoxious for no reason, he could have made his statement calmly and peacefully. If this would have turned wrong, then everyone would be bashing the cops for not doing more.
Bob Dole, Montgomery, AL
The "boy" (who, at 21, is a man) probably shoul've sat down when his mike went dead. But who wouldn't be angry at having their questions cut off in such an obvious manner?
The police behaved like goons in a fascist regime. There was no need to handcuff and electronically stun someone whose only "crime" was asking uncomfortable questions.
The audience behaved like the sheep they have been socialized to be.
Our civil rights have been going down the tubes for some time. This incident only shines a spotlight on that fact.
So what's to be done? You can be a sheep, or you can be an agitator for change. You cannot be both at the same time. Even if he behaved a little like a goofy, angry kid, my vote's with Mr. Meyer on this one. At least he spoke up. Three hundred other people in the room did nothing.
beth h., portland, oregon
Reminds me of the scene from Donnie Darko.
Police brutality, in my opinion.
Look at the smile upon that cop's face.
Sadistic. Disgusting.
They need to drop the charges on Meyer.
They need to punish those cops.
I agree with all Garber has to say.
Dan Paladin, Silvermoon City,
With respect to free speech-- there were several students, in line in front of Meyer, who never had a chance to ask their questions because he pushed in front of them to seize the microphone.
There is free speech, and there are time constraints. Senator Kerry said he had time to take six questions. He took eight. Before question #8 began, Senator Kerry said, "This is the last question." At this point, Meyer pushed his way to the front of the line, interrupted the girl who was asking a question, and demanded that the senator take his question. The security guards began to hold him back, and Meyer screamed, "They're going to arrest me!"
Senator Kerry replied that he would take Meyer's question after he answered girl #8's question.
It is after this that the YouTube video begins.
Wasn't Meyer violating the free speech rights of the students waiting in the line in front of him?
James, Gainesville, FL
I think that Mr. Andrew Meyer got what was coming to him.
He wanted to show how "cool" he was by asking inappropriate questions and fighting back when he was clearly asked to leave.
He was warned that if he did not co-operate that he would be tased. Yah sure I think it was a little extreme but, he got exactly what he wanted.
He's getting all of this attention off of it.
Religion plays no field in this so, why was that even brought up?
William Tate, Callaway\Panama, U.S.\FL.
Shocking!
Ian Griffin, Newcastle-Upon-Tyne, UK
I am appalled by the police, the organisers, and everyone who watched that happen without trying to do something. You can't arrest someone for asking difficult questions and then claim you tasered them for resisting arrest - because you had no right to try and arrest them in the first place. Did those cops just forget the first amendment or something?
Matt, Leiighton Buzzard, UK
Police brutality without a doubt - he asks an inconvenient question in a place of enquiry and is no thought is given to answering the question. Instead, he is dragged away, searched for weapons, held down and tasered - which seems to be a summary form of punishment now rather than a response to defuse an emergency. What has America become if this can happen in a hall full of supposedly freedom loving people ?
alun macrae, Sydney, Ausatralia
This will be worked out in the courts. The University will pay $$ dearly. The cops should not only be fired, but prosecuted as well. The police officers should be charged and prosecuted for assault with a deadly weapon. That's what I would do. The world is watching America, what you gonna do??
shane orr, austin, tx
SHAME!!! It does matter what the intent of his question was, the Senateur was going to answer for crying out loud! Plus, don't talk to me a out a free country, not any more. Police clearly over reacting, that's abuse, totally uncalled for, but hey, good thing they didn't use clubs!
Signs of the times, take a look in other so-called civilized countries, chains are getting shorter, noose tighter. What are the kids supposed to have faith in now? Surely not the government, or the authorities. Teachers maybe? Judges? Social workers? Doctors?
So we had to kick God out not to offend some? Is it better now?
Catherine, Orange, California
I want Mr Kerry to answer Andrew Meyer's questions.
CE, Nantes, France
Tasers are supposed to be an alternative to more leathal weapons, namely guns. This was not a circumstance where a gun would have been needed. Once you give law enforcement officers these kind of weapons they will become more and more inclined to use them. This is a slippery slope, the police become brutalised, civil rights are erroded, people get hurt.
There was clearly no need for an outnumbered, overpowered, unarmed and already restrained man to be punished in this way.
Barny Boatman, london, England
Next time a police officer orders him to put his hands behind his back (and there surely will be a next time) he might be more inclined to comply rather than resist (unless his chum's there with a video camera).
Ellen Morris, Leeds,
A senior British police officer recently demonstrated the Taser being rolled out over here using the words this is what will happen to you if you "do not obey". This has been graphically illustrated by the events in the U.S.A.
Can we expect similar at the next Labour Party Conference? a handy weapon to use on dangerous old aged pensioners.
I think the phrase Don't Tase me bro could become iconic.
Simon, Leeds, U.K.
Why was it the skull and bones reference that pushed the police to grab him? Are the other students applauding because he's always pulling stunts in this way? I agree with those that say he should have calmed down and would then have avoided being Tasered, but the fact was he has just asking a question or two. John Kerry should have intervened if he says he could have handled it, so why didn't he?
CALDWELL, Dorking, UK
Aren't the USA supposed to be the model of "Freedom of Speech" and Democracy" ?
Trevor, Margate, UK
All police involved in that incident need to lose their badges and go back to being street bullies.
Eric M Holdt, Poland, Ohio
Freedom of anything in the US is a figment of peoples imagination and this current situation proves the point, though shame too on Mr Kerry for not intervening more purposefully during the more than two minutes of abuse that Mr Meyer had to endure, since when can a public debate be censored by the organizers, what is the point of having any debate then?
Mat Biru, jakarta,
If there were a few more people tapped into the Truth in that crowd maybe they wouldn't have done it.. Instead, everyone wants some entertainment, label people extreme or 'disrespectful', etc... This should outrage anyone with half an understanding of what it means to be American.. Fascism is here kids, Wake up!!
Ed Mayhew, Lake Orion , Michigan
What was he question?
G A Turner, Cheltenham,
Poor Little Andy,
Didn't your mother teach you not to play with fire? You got burned!
Simple Lesson, Albuquerque, USA, New Mexico
Deary me.
Someone at the top of this thread says "When the Police ask you to put your hands behind your back, that's what you do. Even if you think you're in the right, even if you know you're in the right, you do what the police ask in a speedy manner."
What's happened that people think that the relationship between the citizenry and the state is that we do what the police say, regardless?
What's happened that young people sit and watch a citizen get assaulted by police and don't intervene?
Depressing.
Gav McLeod, Wellington, New Zealand
As far as I can tell, although his line of questioning wasnt the most politically adept to John Kerry (JK). It was, however, questions that JK was able to answer and indeed willing to answer. It was unwise for the police to interject at the time they did. The man posed no threat to JK's safety. It is about time that american politics took a look at their european counterparts and their ability to, not only deal with hecklers but also deal with unplanned questions. So that police do not interfere with so called "unusual" questioning from the public.
Furthermore. I believe that the man had 4+ arresting officers. This is more than enough to suppress the situation. He did not have to be tasered, When he was tasered he was on the floor and in the process of being cuffed. He was noisy that was all. British police are unarmed (mostly) and have to deal with worse situations then that and they do this with diplomacy, and wisdom
YMW, London, UK
Please. The Americans here are so supportive of this student's right to free speech. You refer to the consitution, the sanctity of the American way. I wonder how reactions would be different should a Muslim stand up in a public forum and challenge the Christian/American way and speak of the glory of Allah. Would there be this much uproar to the use of tasers?
You only support free speech when what's being said is within the borders of political (white) correctness.
Jenny, Bristol, England
Being Brutalised and physically assaulted for being cheeky and a bit rude to a polititian??
God help us all.
Craig, Weymouth,
If he had a point to make he could have done so in a coherent and controlled manner. He was asked to leave, he didn't; the police tried to excort from the premises, he resisted; he tried to escape from police control, he got zapped.
He acted like an idiot being agressive and antisocial and got his just rewards.
Jeremy Wheeler, Edinburgh,
I cannot agree more with an article I found regarding this incident on www.inteldaily.com, which says "The question we should all ask is why did a United States senator just stand there while Gestapo goons violated the constitutional rights of a student participating in a public event, brutalized him in full view of everyone, and then took him off to jail on phony charges?"
"Kerryâs meekness not only in the face of electoral fraud, not only in the face of Bushâs wars that are crimes under the Nuremberg standard, but also in the face of police goons trampling the constitutional rights of American citizens makes it completely clear that he was not fit to be president, and he is not fit to be a US senator."
chris caldwell, Nantes, France
Our Country, (America) is no longer a free country, when a citizen asks a question in the one place where the free flow of idea's is expected, university, is attacked for asking a tough question, who actually controls Kerry, He wanted to answer the man but there was a man in a suit who told the person controlling the microphone to cut it off. Who was this man in the suit and how did he have more power over Senator Kerry? David Icke does not seem so far out now does he? Maybe we should be asking your Mr. Icke his views on this matter.
Fabian J Proano, USA, USA
If Meyer was correct in his line of questioning, then we have a much bigger problem than one student being arrested. If Meyer's claims were groundless, then Kerry was the best person on the planet to refute them.
Police over-react all the time. It was a poor judgment call on their part, but remember, they did not have time to convene a committee and discuss the best action. It is difficult to second guess the police unless we have been in their shoes.
Does anyone seriously believe that the police were their to shut up a dissenting voice? Come on. They probably were listening less to the content of the speaker's than the tone... which may have just been extreme anxiety over asking a blunt question.
The real important issue is that it was Kerry that was silenced by the disruptive farce caused by the police.
The senator should have been given the respect by everyone including the police to give a measured and thoughtful response.
Tony, Tucson, az
I think that while this guy was definitely seeking attention, the situation didn't have to be handled in such an aggressive manner on the part of the campus cops. Kerry even stated that he would have gladly answered the questions, as obnoxious as they were, and Meyer would have had his publicity fix and everybody could have gone home, irritated maybe, but more peacefully. As much as someone may want to, there is absolutely no excuse for putting 50,000 volts through somebody because they're being obnoxious, and now this guy is going to have even more of what he wanted because he's pretty much a YouTube star now.
Mary Troutman, Dekalb, USA/Illinois
If they simply had this speech/debate via IM, nothing would have happened. These kids are always on their laptops. It's not too hard to do.
Florence, New York, USA
I'm with you, Mike B. I'm with you.
Frank, Dallas, Texas
Bush country no less too! Meyers could have been handled easily if it were not for the cops attitude. they want to "take control" even at expense of our civil liberties. crimminy, it's a college, not a blasted prison meeting!
Pete Krohn 06375, quaker hill, ct
According to principles set down by the supreme court, speech is protected unless it causes direct harm. Speech is not protected if you yell "fire" in a crowded theatre when there is no fire, and panic ensues. However, no matter how rude or lacking civil respect a question may be, it is in fact protected under the US Constitution.
When I saw the video, it was what one would expect in China or in other regime's where speech and political views are not protected. Sadly, this follows a general trend in the US where "enemies" are locked away without due process, citizens are spied upon by their government without judicial oversight, and where parents can have their property seized due to their children's drug habits. (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003891514_forfeit19m0.html)
Thank goodness for elections, as the people still have the power to vote change in the US.
Steven Michaels, Seattle, WA USA
What the officer told AP about questions asked by Meyer about taping before the Q&A is a normal behaviour - you are at a large meeting, the speaker is a very famous persona, you are about to directly interact with the VIP - you sure want to check if the cam is working and your friend has got your pic in the frame. Cant imagine how the officer thinks this is a violation of any norms? And if after all the campaigning experience of John Kerry, if he cant handle a student's questions (hostile or otherwise) what is he doing at a university campus?????????
Lalit Kumar, Madras, India
How does the fact this guy was taping himself, and had a history of doing so, in any way excuse the violent over-reaction of the police? And why are cops always suspended on full pay? It's like rewarding them with time off for behaving like thugs.
Chris, Worthing, england
i cant believe no-one has commented on this.
Land of the free indeed.
S. Hocked, London,
And they are talking about giving these things to the super intelligent average police officers that we have in this country!? The fact is these things kill and any officer using one and killing someone should be hung out to dry. To be led astray is no excuse for going astray as they say. The "my boss told me to use it" defence didn't work in Nuremburg and it shouldn't work in our police forces.
John, Dundee, UK
this assault on an innocent student in the halls of learning,
which should be a safe haven for students, is proof of the
fascist trend in this country! Fortunately there is a video
that reveals the entire travesty by the cops, and and
brutality against the innocent. No more free speech in this
country, and most people don't even realize the loss.
Joan Payne Kincaid, Sea Cliff, NY
Good. I am happy that he wanted somebody to tape it. This could be you or me or anybody who wants to speak. They were unlawfully arresting him therefore he has the right to resist.
Freedom of speech period.
mel, chicago, US
An absolute joke.
Facist bullies with chips on their shoulders.
I had a gun pulled on me and stuffed into my face because i took a nap on some grass in Orange County a couple of years ago.
Outrageous.
Andrew Kinghan, London, City
As a student at the University of Florida, I feel that one aspect of this article requires clarification: Mr. Meyer's microphone was not cut off because of his "line of questioning", but because he began to use profanity. Long-standing policy at these events states that the use of profanity will lead to your microphone being cut off. Nor was the tasing due to his questions; it was performed because he struggled with police officers while being arrested. This does not justify the inexcusable action; action must be taken to ensure that this does not occur again. However, it is important to clarify that the tasing was unrelated to the speech, a fact which is becoming more and more obscured on the internet.
Robert Lee, Gainesville, FL, USA
Regardless of whether or not Mr. Meyer was trying to get attention, it is clear that he was first trying to make the information known to his fellow students, who may have not done research on the subject, and second asking viable questions of curriosity to the former presidential candidate.
Joseph Barnes, Fresno, California
Police Officers and educators and everyone else in authority are taunted routinely. That's just part of the job. For four officers to result to tasering anyone, especially a student at a Q & A forum, is simply revolting. These buffoons should lose their jobs and their peers should go through more training. Maybe psychological testing is in order to determine which officers are most likely to resort to violent force when their authority is questioned, so they can be redirected to jobs where they have no contact with other people.
Kate, Virginia Beach, Virginia
Look, there's a heap more videos on YouTube other than the one you've included in this article. All of which provide more perspective.
Regardless of the motives of the student, I have to question quite why tasers were used. An unarmed student asking difficult questions doesn't warrant arrest, nor tasering. Escorting from the building perhaps.
Gah, London,
the hell with authority! WHY was he asked to leave? he had legit questions, and kerry could've handled it. let the man speak. there have been or may have been election irregularities and i think we should look into it or AT LEAST talk about it.
ghuman, nyc, usa
Please. All the Americans who have left comment here are so up in arms about Meyer's right to freedom of speech. You only support freedom of speech when it is within the realms of your (white, Christian) political correctness. I wonder if you would of shown the same comradery had it of been a Muslim, speaking out against the evils of the West, who had been tazered into silence.
Jenny, Bristol, England
Mr Meyer is a kid who never grew up and apparently
was never diciplined for acting up. He was rude to others there trying to monopolize the mic and regretably, he accomplished what he set out to do, which was to make a big show for getting attention.
He deserved to be tasted and I hope they prosceute
his ass.
Ray Carioscia, Boca Raton , fl
Officers who deal with a somewhat disrespectful youth in such a manner should not be allowed to serve. Police seem unble to tackle simple protests using persuasion and other non violent etchniques. To have to pull him aside and not take the 5 minutes it might have taken to persuade him to leave quietly is bad enough, but to do so without direction from MR Kerry who was well able to handle teh heckler and then to assault him while he is restrained is so appalling that I am flabberghasted. I presume he will sue for millions. The university president should also be ambarrassed by his lack of backbone by not condeming this behaviour much more strongly. I hope Kerry will apologise to the youngster and condem the behaviour of the police totally.
Ivan, Dublin, ireland
Oh for god's sake! How quick are the police officers to use a tazer!? Was it really necessary? I think a politician should handle a situation like that himself. It's not like he was in imminent danger? What an overreaction!
Julia, Worcester, UK
Tasering is, surely, a form of torture and fundamentally illegal. It could only possibly be justified if a person's life or health were in danger; clearly not the case here. Florida police are no doubt fit and active people, trained in handling unruly members of the public, and could have restrained this student without resorting to this kind of violence.
Frank Upton, Solihull,
if the university police hired "police officers" with any skill, they wouldn't have tazed him. come on, he was no threat. the women with the big hips could have sat on him. why is it when a white guy gets tazed he deserved it, but when a person of color gets it, it was police brutality.
rrrr, hayward, usa/ca
The land of the free and the home of the brave?
What happened to freedom of speech?
I thought this sort of thing only happened in oppresive societies?
Jason, Coventry, England
Meyer may have been obnoxious and seeking attention but that hardly warrents the officers to restrict and remove him. So the officers themselves created the situation that arose for they had absolutely no reason to restrain him in the first place.
A breach of this kids rights to express himself and an insult to democracy that the police restrained him from asking a US senator some difficult questions.
Is this the new US democray we should be expecting. Shame on them
ibbo, Leeds, UK
This is utterly disgraceful.
It sums up Bush and Blair's world.
They have gone and tortured people abroad and now we have the police doing the same in the West, stifling democracy and free speech here.
It also demonstrates that Tasers and other weapons should not be given routinely to the police.
Senator John Kerry is also at fault for not intervening effectively to stop the police
K. Urban, London, UK
it dosnt matter if the kids a jerk watch the before and after its un cut on you tube the cops need to be fired tasers can and are deadly right here in fl they tasered a 56 year old woman in a wheek chair she died the cops are getting sued
david, ocala, fl usa
The whole event was a obviously put-on, so the joke's on you, gullible bleedling heart leftists...
Paul, Columbia, SC, USA
I am deeply sickened by what I saw in this video. Yes, he wasn't very professional - SO WHAT? The way the police reacted was greatly uncalled for, and I for one would like to see them lose their jobs. What is this nation coming to when we are arrested for asking questions? Perhaps it is true that the government doesn't want us to think too much. I hope our next president will be like Ron Paul or Dennis Kucinich - someone that respects the constitution, and has zero tolerance of just blatant abominations of justice.
Dustin Jones, Palm Coast, Florida, USA
He acted like a spoiled child and now he's getting his 15 minutes of fame, just as he wanted.
In an earlier time he would have been hauled before a judge and been given a choice, jail or the Army. He probably would have enlisted in the Army and learned to be a man and not the boy he is. The national and international media wouldn't have given him the time of day.
Have we progressed?
Ross, Wyoming, USA
I think everyone is missing the point. Andrew Meyer got tased and arrested for exercising his freedom of speech. Or is freedom of speech simply an illusion in this country?? What are our troops fighting for, if not our Constitutional rights? But here in the United States a student asking questions of a political figure will be arrested and tased. What could he possibly have been getting arrested for? Freedom of Speech does not exist. We are a police state. Wake up people.
Beth, Lakewood, CO
It doesn't matter what Mr. Meyer's intent was. Did the police behave legally and appropriately? That is the question that matters.
Alex Nowik, San Francisco, USA
The police had the student subdued and handcuffed before they unleashed the Taser on him. Tasering him was unnecessary.
John Kerry watched the whole event passively, almost as passively as he watched the vote in Ohio being stolen from him. I have lost what little respect I had for Kerry after seeing this incident.
My heart goes out to Andy Meyer, the white Rodney King.
Dennis Wilson, Wyandanch, NY, Amerika
It's amazing what a few minutes of edited video can provoke! The guy was disruptive before he got up to ask a question. He cut in line of people waiting for the mic. He then prattled on with wierd conspiracy theories for several minutes before the organizers cut his mic. He was asked to leave. Security attempted to escort him out. He resisted and threw himself to the ground. They tried to cuff him, but he flail his hands about. They warned him they were going to taser if if he didn't stop fighting them. They warned him again. They tasered him.
Great quote from John 'Reporting For Duty' Kerry, " believe I could have handled the situation without interruption.â He could of, but he didn't. He sat back and watched for 10 Minutes.
M. Fernandez, San Francisco,
I am absolutely disgusted with this video and more importantly the audio. Kerry squirms out clean, yet he had it within his power to stop the police from tasering the kid. Although he was somewhat rude with his manner of speaking, he did NOT break the law. He did not deserve to be physically attacked and certainly doesn't deserve to be arrested. Furthermore, I would have liked to have heard an answer to at least one, if not all of the questions he asked.
Anonymous, Oakland, CA
I think the police went too far, they had him handcuffed and they still tased him. they went too far. all they had to do was escort him out of there. I think the officers involved need to be let from their jobs.
Nathan, Havana, Illinois
Free speech actually DOES allow people to do exactly that- speak freely. I can not believe the people out there saying this event was justified. It is a clear violation of First Amendment rights. We can speak freely and assemble freely in public places- has city hall now become a place where a citizen cannot speak their mind? What country do you think we live in, Russ? People DIED and continue to die for our rights, and you think this poor kid deserved to be illegally arrested and shocked multiple times? You, and every person that has the gall to say 'he deserved it' should probably move to China, since you support abuses of state power and human rights so readily.
Free speech and assembly are important cornerstones of DEMOCRACY.
People need to ask questions, and have representatives answer them. Dissent is patriotic, not tase worthy. Wake up America.
Em Rosenberg, New York, New York
"There is nothing about our "right to free speech" that includes being loud and obnoxious."
It is precisely this fascist rhetoric that is transforming the US into a police state. FREE SPEECH does not mandate that what you say be pleasant or quiet.
Liberty does not rise out of ignorance, Russ.
P. M., Wichita, KS
"understandable"?? How could it EVER be "understandable for police or security guards to react this way?
Ask yourself this, would they have treated him the same way if he were a senator? If he were Donald Trump, or Jeb Bush?
Free speech is a right that must be demanded. This student rightfully demanded to be heard and all of the students in that hall should have jumped to defend him when he was attacked by the rent-a-cops. Disgusting. And more evidence that the US is straight on the path to fascism.
Michael, New York City, NY, USA
The student was certainly looking to draw attention to himself and be a bit of a troublemaker. But speaking in a public forum, raising reasonable questions to a sitting politician is the essence of protected First Amendment speech, and the audacity of the speaker does not make it less so. To say that the actions of the police were wrong is to state the obvious. That five or more police could make such a mistake is truly frightening. And that a man who was a hair's breadth from the Presidency let it pass in his presence without lifting a finger to stop it is even more so (though one certainly could not have expected more from the current occupant of the Whitehouse).
If the state and University authorities do not repudiate this action in the strongest possible way, it will be a very bad omen indeed.
Jon, Seattle,
Facts: Meyer cut in line, broke the "one question" rule, and went over the time limit.
Was campus police wrong to remove him for that? I don't think so. This isn't a First Amendment issue.
Facts: Meyer resisted being handcuffed, was warned many times that he would be tazed if he resisted, and was NOT cuffed when he finally got tazed (Watch the video. Where is his left hand?)
Did campus police use excessive force? If they did, then there are no circumstances under which they can use a tazer to subdue a resisting suspect.
It's easy to blame the police in this situation as they have a bad and somewhat deserved reputation for brutality, but it seems like you people aren't paying any attention to the facts.
radford, austin, tx
Wow, I would like to thank all the people in here who agree this was police brutality. I was listening to the Sean Hannity show to hear his take on it, and he of course was sticking up for the police. "This is what policemen do" he said. I'm glad to see that the spin the mainstream media has put on this hasn't gotten to anyone. I think that the comments I have read in here gives a pretty good idea of where the majority opinion stands, with Andrew Meyer, where it should be.
Lisa, Waterloo,
As the student who was handed Meyer's camera, he was speaking in such a way that one would ask a stranger at Disney World to take a picture of them with Mickey Mouse. Meyer was excited about having the chance to talk to Senator Kerry. Nothing was planned. Why would someone hand a complete stranger an expensive video camera expecting to be arrested and possibly not get their personal property back? Also, Meyer did not jump ahead of line. The Accent Speaker's Bureau dissolved the line. I would have stood and attempted to speak but I was threatened with arrest. I hope that people remember the children's rhyme "sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me." No matter how much anyone believes Andrew Meyer had no right to speak, or didn't like what he had to say or believes he's and idiot, his words did not hurt anyone. His words were just that, WORDS, but tasers, they do hurt and much more than sticks or stones.
Clarissa Jessup, Gainesville, FL
The people who had their free speech infringed upon were all of the law abiding, rule following people who waited their turn and asked one question and moved on to listen respectfully to the next person. It was clear that his intent was do disrupt the event. The police were well within their rights to arrest him. I believe that they should have been able to subdue him and haul him out of there without the use of a taser, but, once you start arguing with and fighting the police, you're bound to have them react much more strongly. Had he peacefully exited when asked to, this would not be news. Imagine for a moment that the story is that some deranged guy shot two police officers before finally being subdued. They don't know if this guy is going to be a whacko or not. Their job is to place themselves into potentially deadly situations every day. I can understand why their first reaction to violent resistance is to subdue the person first, and ask questions later.
Mark, San Francisco, Ca.
that was ridiculus. that kid did not present any kind of immediate danger. the decision to use a taser when mr. meyers was pinned to the floor by 5 officers was way out of bounds and unnecessary. Another note, Senator Kerry didnt even try to stop the incident. Which leaves me to believe he doesnt care much for protecting our freedom of speech. "I'll go ahead and answer the young mans question....unfortunately he's not available..." That's about as involved as Mr. Kerry got.
Personally, i think fighting with law enforcement in any situation is a bad idea. But in this instance, it clearly illustrates the level of intelligence of those who have sworn to protect us and our rights.
Michael, Fayetteville, AR
This poor man wanted a record of himself making a fool of a government official, not of himself being brutalized by a lynch mob of trigger happy eletric eels. That makes him egotistical, not someone we should pin to the floor and brutalize.
In this article it claims he calls out, almost as a comedian "Don't Tase me, bro!", but did you see the video? Forgive me, but I heard cries for help. I also heard the laughter of the crowd die quickly into sharp gasps when the tasers started up. This article makes it sound as if the man was trying to make himself into a martyr for the cause when in all truth he just wanted his chance to show up a politician he believed he had outsmarted.
Nina, Hope Mills, USA, North Carolina
The issue is one of decorum. He had the right to say what he wanted, and he did. He asked the question and he then went into a diatribe and dominated the presentation. He disrupted everything, and the campus police tried to escort him out but he resisted. I believe the campus police tried to keep the peace, but Meyer didn't want it.
What would have been better? Allowing him to rant and rave and disrupt the presentation for the sake of his Jackass simulation website? Have you lost all sense of respectability? What if during your graduation ceremony, wedding, or church service he did the same thing? He should have asked his question and wait for an answer. That is being civil, and it is in short supply these days.
Jonathan, Port Orange, Florida
What's more disturbing to me is that everyone sat there in silence. Scared, sheeps.
I'm 22 and I have never been more concern about the direction of our country, until I saw the lack of action on behalf of Andrew Meyer. My generation is the death of America, and for every principles our society stood and fought for.
Jea Nesus, New York, USA
The idiot got what he deserved. It was so obviously for publicity. He knew the rules and he deliberately broke them. If the police let everybody in the room run all over the place and act ridiculous, what would the situation have been like? He is well known on campus for being a fool and I'm glad he maybe finally realized his actions have consequences.
Brandy, Gainesville, FL
I think Kerry should answer Andrew Meyer's questions
jim, bham, al
It amazes me how little people understand the concept of free speech. I suppose by the same twisted logic used by some of the bloggers the right to bear arms would allow me to point a gun at a bank clerk's head until he gave me all the money in his cash drawer. A thug is a thug, whether toting a gun or a microphone.
Drew McDonald, Savannah, GA
An example od Florida's political stupidity.
A. C. Murdock, White Water, , CA
The way this boy was treated was completely out of line! I believe that the force taken against him was absolutely wrong!
Shaelyn Hall, Oahu, Hawaii
Ever since 9/11 American officials have seen it as completely acceptable to start jack-booting around, arresting anyone who questions their authority. The problem is that a lot of these people are thugs anyway who joined the force just to be able to use violence, but now instead of using it on criminals, like they have for years, they now seem to believe that they have the license to use it on anyone who disagrees with them. There is starting to be a serious erosion of basic human rights in the states, and worse, it has been led by Bush himself when he sanctioned removing the rights of trial to suspected terrorists. It worries me and I pray that we British do not follow suit.
Nick, Beijing,
It seems to me that Andrew Meyer is an attention-seeking prankster who didn't respect the rules of the event he was attending. If he truely wanted his questions answered he would of asked them in a much less abrassive manner.
That being said, it is still completely frightening that the security officials would resort to such extreme measures of violence to silence Meyer. It would of been much more appropriate to ask him to leave, and if he starts making a scene or struggling like he did, cuff him and esscort him outside. There were at least four officers, they could of easily gotten him out of the building, and tasering was excesive and brutal.
Personally, I would of liked it if Kerry had answered Meyer's questions, despite how disrespectful and rude Meyer was being, and I'm sure Kerry would of been able to.
I can see why officials would not have wanted Meyer to participate at the event, he was not taking it seriously. But the excess and brutality of the incident is disturbing.
Erik, Tacoma, WA
This is what the U.S. has come to. Freedom and individuality is what the U.S emphasizes the most, yet this shows how much it has been repressed in our society today. I agree with Dan C., the intervention wasn't necessary, John Kerry was willing to answer his question. In the video Mr. Kerry CLEARY says "That's alright, let me answer his question." It was also CLEARY directed the the police force that started towards him.
In honestly, the questions he asked could be declared as "personal attacks", but does that give the right for the police force to supress Mr. Meyer and TASE him at that? So does that mean he can't exercise his freedom of speech? He did resist, but not in an attacking manner. You see him moving his arms out of their grasp, not physically assaulting the officers to get out.
It brings up so many issues in the world today. We accuse Russia for "back-sliding democracy" yet this is how we treat our people.
I hope the police officers feel the smart for this action
Jessie T., Seattle, WA
First of All, I do not think all the police officers would be dumb enough to "brutally" abuse students right in front of all the media. Second, if you listen to all the commands issued by the police officers, Andrew Meyer should have COMPLY right away. (regardless he is right or wrong). He should comply and let the justice system to determine who is right later on. Instead, he was warned and did not do what he was told. That was his choice. Personally, I think the officer should just drag him out regardless in which position Andrew Meyer was in. That way will safe a lot of valuable time for other students.
People also need to understand what freedom really means. Freedom does not mean to do or speak whatever you want.
G W, Minneapolis, Minnesota
these comments are sickening...nobody realizes that the ACCENT speaker bureau who invited Kerry has the right to set up rules of conduct for the length that a question can run for, the type language used in a question...his microphone was cut for using an obscene word in his question, not to mention he broke the rules by cutting the line and was clearly belligerent to Senator Kerry. The police stepped in to enforce what ACCENT told them to do, this is blown way out of proportion. CHECK YOUR FACTS BEFORE YOU START MAKING RIDICULOUS COMMENTS. He was tased for resisting arrest, not for asking his question....
Carlos, Gainesville, FL
Dangerous misconception #1: An obnoxious person has no rights under the Consitution.
Corollary: Unpopular people deserve to be beaten and thrown in jail.
That journalists and bloggers would even argue the above shows that we need much better civics curriculum in our schools.
Michael Davidson, Intervale, NH
Meyer's 1st Amendment rights do not apply at private functions such as the Kerry forum that day. The event staff control the microphones and had no obligation to keep them open for Meyer. They had already announced the end of the question/answer period before Meyer even reached the microphone. Meyer threw a temper tantrum and the staff agreed to keep the mic open just to calm him down a bit. The content his speech wasn't that important. It was apparent the Meyer was on a jag and not letting Kerry respond despite being told to stop preaching and ask his question. At that point the organizer cut the mic and asked the cops to escort Meyer out. Meyer goes nuts, actively resisting being removed from the hall.
Meyer was not tasered to silence his !st Amendment rights or because he asked politically dangerous questions. He was tased because he actively resisted being removed from a private function his behavior was disrupting. He isn't the new Rosa Parks. He is the new Steve-O.
Brett, Dallas,
The power of the camera mobile phone. The power of the Internet and YouTube. Those cops are history. And even John Kerry didn't come across as one of the bad guys, although he could have done more to stop this disgraceful incident. Police brutality writ large.
Andrew Milner, Yokohama, Japan
American Inquisition.
Andrew Milner, Yokohama, Japan
I can't see any reason for the officer to taser him and although he shouldnt have said those things, the police didn't have to do that.It was totally unfair.
Dylan Lozano, Merced, california
Actually, this student jumped the queue then prevented a civil exchange. If anyone limited free speech, it was Meyer. When people act in this manner, those who want to ask legitimate questions and receive answers are prevented from doing so. Defending boorish behavior merely promotes the loss of civil exchange.
Len Johnson, Fullerton, CA
Its 50 thousand volts and the police did the right thing. When an officer tells you to leave or stop just do it.
Aj, Casselberry, Florida
I Beleive The Police Should Be Fired--Even KERRY Says There Was NO Reason To TAZ Him As He Would Have Answered And Delt With The Student---If The Student Had Been Violent Then It Would Been A Different Story---To TAZ A Person WITH Handcuffs On Is UNACEPTABLE---Our Right Of Free Speech Is Being Slowly Taken Away From US---The More Things Like This Happens The MORE People Will Be Afraid To Speak And Say What They Think !!
Ronald R., RIDGEFIELD, WASHINGTON
Mr. Meyer violated one of our last remaining rights and freedoms: The right to keep your mouth shut!
Mary Thatcher, Raleigh, USA/NC
Images are emotive, more emotive than words. That's the reason that there are no words that I can choose that can fully express the horrific & unconscionable injustices that are permitted to continue around the world. The are nations in which men nor women can feel secure whilst they sleep.
This is the reason I feel I have to congratulate those students that voiced their revulsion at police brutality. Passionate, reasoned & visceral discontent with injustice is what prevents America from sinking into complete disarray.
It seems to me perfectly clear that letting institutions invested-with-power (like the police) know when they've overstepped the mark is important. After all, what's worse than an institution with almost complete power over our freedoms losing its accountability to those itâs supposed to serve?
Ayo Adeyemi, Lincoln,
funny how it is said in this report that "Event organisers were unhappy with his line of questioning and switched off the microphone as police officers moved in to escort him out of the hall."
my only issue with this is i heard him saying let me go and i'll walk out of here.
that was unlawful arrest
that was suppression of 1st ammendment rights for both Kerry and Meyers
....this can be played down all you want, but the reaction to meyers action is not acceptable, and this is america....i refuse to let it become a police state while im living in it.
Sleeping Prophet, Portland, Oregon
I agree that the taser was overboard, but get real people. The dude was obviously trying to create an incident. Watch and see how he was asking his questions and not allowing Kerry time to answer. He was simply acting like a jerk and the campus police tried to remove him from the area. When he continued "acting" up, that is when the problem grew. I consider it not to be a Freedom of Speech issue at all, it is an issue of Freedom to be a Jerk.
IMHO: The officers need to re-take a course on the use of and reason for the taser. Mr. Meyer needs to be charged for resisting arrest. If he had left peacefully with the officers, he would never have been charged with anything.
Taking tasers away from police would be a mistake, then they are left with fewer non-lethal alternatives. Tasers are almost always non-lethal.
Paul H, Dallas, TX, USA
I live in Greece and we have a law here that prohibits the entrance of police officers in every University. Education cannot be policed. What happenned at Florida is completely outrageous! Whoever Andrew Meyer was, he cannot be treated like that. It's a shame for US citizens to accept such a behaviour from police officers.
Nikolas Nisis, Athens, Greece
Um......What ever happen you freedom of speech? This is a perfect example of a total misuse of power, police are here to protect and serve, if thats where our tax dollars are going....we need change, thats why I'm in college to become a lawyer and shake up somethings!
Brandon, SUNY Farmingdale, Farmingdale, NY
John Kerry showed HIS character as a man when he DID'T step off the stage and stand up for the Constitution by stopping this episode!
Don, Ocoee, Tennessee,
This is all so silly and childish. The incident doesn't involve the "Constitution" or "free speech," so dry your eyes, Mike. In addition, Kerry did not ignore it, he tried to intervene and tell the police that he was willing to answer the questions.
Let's separate out a few issues here. Meyer is a blowhard kid who wants to draw attention to himself. That's not unusual for kids. He started yelling at the event, with no real interest in getting answers but a lot of interest in attracting attention. He went over the allotted time, at the end of the event, and he needed to be told, "Hey, little boy, that's enough!"
Where the police went wrong was playing into his personal show. They didn't need half a dozen officers to drag him out, and they certainly didn't need to tase him. Two or three officers could have removed Meyer from the scene, period. Alas, the police didn't know how to deal with such a child, and they screwed up.
Lili, Chicago, USA
The student had cut to the front of the line, pushing people out of his way. He dictated to the panel that he would ask as many questions as he liked when there were only supposed to be one with a option for a follow up. He went there loud, arrogant and abrasive seeking media attention and he got it. His over theatrical "DON'T TASE ME BRO" and screaming that he didn't do anything while resisting arrest was reason enough to get him thrown to the ground and tased. The only thing the student police were guilty of was lack of training. It had NOTHING to do with freedom of speech. He was an jackass, plain and simple. Stop holding this idiot up as some kind of poor victim.
-Luc
USA
Lucretious, Lincoln, USA
â One officer told the Associated Press that Mr Meyer asked, presumably an assistent, â âAre you taping this? Do you have this? You ready?â before beginning his questions.â Well, of course. He obviously wanted a tape to show his questions and Kerryâs answers later on his own Webssite or Blog later. Iâve watched a video of his asking the questions. They sound to me as if he is passionate and was anxious to get in all three questions. I have heard reporters ask two questions at a time--lengthy ones too--at press conferences with Bush. That way the reporter doesnât have to try to be called on twice, which he most probably wouldnât be--and as Andrew Meyer most probably wouldnât have been.
He was waving a book and I caught a glimpse of the cover. I am quite sure it said Palast-- the author who has had much to say in books and articles on the Internet about the two stolen presidential elections. This indicates to me that Meyer was well informed. As a (retired) high school teacher, I do
Kristin, Bolton, MA
There's a name for people who ask public officials difficult or embarrassing questions while being filmed. They are called "Journalists." While this student certainly displayed a lack of maturity, his questions were not offensive or inappropriate. In fact, he asked many of the same questions that the professional media has asked of Senator Kerry. To his credit, the Senator Kerry was attempting to answer the young man's questions when the event sponsors decided the student should be removed. I wish Senator Kerry had spoken up for the student and asked that security allow him to speak rather than seemingly ignoring such flagrant abuse as it happened in front of him. I expected better from Mr. Kerry. I saw no reason for the young man to be brutalized by multiple officers and a stun gun. He was not a violent threat. Police in the U.S. are abusing these tasers far too often. They are supposed to be an alternative to firearms - not an alternative to handling difficult people.
Evan, Burlington, VT
Unfortunately, the biggest tragedy is not what the Police or Onlookers did or did not do. The biggest tragedy in this case involved Senator Kerry. At no time did he even attempt to intervene. Sure, he proffered a mild "Iâll answer his questions". So what? Is this the best from the guy who wanted to be the leader of the free world could do in a crisis? He had the opportunity to show his leadership and he didnât. This is especially disturbing given Senator Kerryâs past. Oops, did I go past my allotted sentences? Did I say something offensive? Please donât arrest me. Please donât tase me.
J. P. Wentworth , Inkonema, IA ,
What a thoughtful set of posts, at least the last five. I agree with all of them. America has gone down the tubes. I grew up into a police family, in Portland Oregon. The police respected citizens, who paid them. That was theoday, you have a bunch of idiots who are trained that all citizens in America are enemy combatants, criminals and out to get them. Couple that with low IQs, insecurities and power trips with a bunch of bureaucrats, worried only about their retirements, as they feast at the public trough, and you get incidents like this. The man was quoting a book, one that Kerry said he read and asking questions that the senator was willing to answer. Who decided when it was time to cut the mike? Who in the hell was the little urchin when the Senator himself was willing to answer. And which of the fake cops decided it was time for them to put their hands on him? At what point did their own views differ with Andrew Meyer's? Was it when the mike was cut? Who were the resp. tards?
ddsharper, Salisbury, NC
COMING TO BRITAIN: TASER-HAPPY COPS
Now that the TASER is being deployed across the country, incidents like this WILL happen in the UK.
FIVE cops tackling an unarmed student STILL can't resist using their electro-toys.
Don't disobey or disrespect, or even inconvenience the Boys in Blue, or you'll be shocked like an animal.
Job Lowe, Manchester,
The way I see it...it was unacceptable to use the taser gun unless the guy was being violent, in which he was NOT. He was resisting, but the police were able to detain him, then used the taser. Regardless. I don't see the need in the taser, especially in this incident. Even if the guy was wanting this on tape, he was probably going to use this as a video to show that he could "talk bad/down" to the senator. I believe that it is right that the police be suspended. In fact, they should be terminated for the simple fact that most of their job is based on JUDGEMENT; and that was NOT used!
Marty Thomas, Aiken, South Carolina
In today's America, is anyone really surprised? This entire incident is symptomatic of a society in which power plays the ultimate arbitrator. Welcome to realpolitik.
James Sandham, Toronto, Canada
Has everyone seen that two Florida State players were arrested and one tasered last night? The reason the player was tasered you ask? He became verbally aggressive with the police and then resisted arrest. Does this sound familiar to anyone? When it comes down to it, just listen to the direction of police officers, because they are here to look out for the best interests of all people. They don't always do the right thing, but the vast majority do everytime.
One more note on free speech. As many have said, free speech means that you can say anything and not be persecuted for it, it does not give you a blank check to ignore police and resist arrest because you want to ask a question. Bottom line he broke several procedural policies at the Q&A and was asked to leave, didn't and then was removed.
Brett Bennett, Gainesville, Florida
âAn arrest made with a defective warrant, or one issued without affidavit, or one that fails to allege a crime is within jurisdiction, and one who is being arrested, may resist arrest and break away. " Housh v.
People, 75 111.
491; reaffirmed and quoted in State v. Leach, 7 Conn.
452; State v.
Gleason, 32 Kan. 245; Ballard v. State, 43 Ohio 349; State v Rousseau,
241 P. 2d 447; State v. Spaulding, 34 Minn. 3621.
The police didn't tell Andrew why he was being arrested.
He may have been impolite and not followed protocol for the Q&A but that's not a law-breaking act constituting arrest.
Asking passionate questions shouldn't result in bodily harm.
I hope there will be restitution to Andrew Meyer.
Monique - Trabuco Canyon, CA
Monique, Trabuco Canyon, CA
John Kerry wanted to be President?...What a meek character. Instead of taking charge, he cowered. Isn't he a Senator?....Doesn't the rank of Senator outrank a group of campus cops?...The real story hear is John Kerry's ineptitude...And I am a democrat! What a sad time in the history of the U.S. "How the mighty have fallen".
G. Wakil, Calgary, Canada
This guy definitely deserved some sanction - having the mic turned off, being booed by his peers, etc. - the normal way that blowhards are handled at these kinds of events. Sanction was deserved.
However, at a time when the US Constitution is under attack, when there are strong anti-democratic forces at work in society (no criticism, no dissent, love it or leave it or get disciplined), when there are "free speech pens" miles away from political events where demonstrators are contained... This context makes the police action extremely disturbing.
Think of how this plays internationally. When the US next criticizes China for muzzling a dissident, the world will snort with disgust.
JoJo, Canada,
What happened during this ordeal could have been handled much, much better.
Everyone is so stuck on the tasing idea and on the fact that they think the cops did the right thing that they do not see the major point behind what happened.
Andrew Meyer was trying to prove a point.
And what we did was thouroughly helped him prove it but ripping the first amendment