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‘Pregnant man’ Thomas Beatie is expecting a second child
A married man who used to be a woman says that he is pregnant and will give birth to a baby girl in July.
“How does it feel to be a pregnant man? Incredible,” wrote Thomas Beatie, 34, from the Pacific North West of the United States, in the latest issue of the gay magazine The Advocate.
“Despite the fact that my belly is growing with a new life inside me, I am stable and confident being the man that I am.”
Mr Beatie was born female, named Tracy Lagondino, but had gender reassignment surgery and is now legally male and married to a woman.
He decided to carry a baby for his wife, Nancy, because she had a hysterectomy years ago. He was able to get pregnant because he kept his female organs when he switched genders.
“Sterilisation is not a requirement for sex reassignment, so I decided to have chest reconstruction and testosterone therapy but kept my reproductive rights,” he writes. “Wanting to have a biological child is neither a male nor female desire but a human desire.” The couple, who have been together for ten years, run a custom screenprinting business in Bend, Oregon, where neighbours do not know that Mr Beatie was once a woman.
“Our desire to work hard, buy our first home and start a family was nothing out of the ordinary. That is, until we decided that I would carry our child,” he wrote.
Before becoming pregnant, Mr Beatie stopped the testosterone injections he was receiving as part of his gender reassignment. “It had been roughly eight years since I had my last menstrual cycle so this wasn’t a decision that I took lightly. My body regulated itself after about four months and I didn’t have to take any exogenous oestrogen, progesterone or fertility drugs to aid my pregnancy,” he wrote.
The couple bought donor vials from a cryogenic sperm bank and, facing resistance and prejudice from doctors, resorted to home insemination. “Doctors have discriminated against us, turning us away due to their religious beliefs. Healthcare professionals have refused to call me by a male pronoun or recognise Nancy as my wife. Receptionists have laughed at us. Friends and family have been unsupportive; most of Nancy’s family doesn’t even know I’m transgender,” he said.
Mr Beatie’s first successful insemination ended in a life-threatening ectopic pregnancy with triplets that required surgery, resulting in the loss of all his embryos and his right Fallopian tube. “When my brother found out about my loss, he said, ‘It’s a good thing that happened. Who knows what kind of monster it would have been?’,” he wrote.
The second pregnancy resulted in a baby girl who is due to be born on July 3. “I will be my daughter’s father, and Nancy will be her mother. We will be a family,” he wrote.
Mr Beatie would not be the first transgender man to give birth, according to Lisa Masterson, an obstetrician at Cedars-Sinai Medical Centre in Los Angeles.
“A transgender man can be pregnant because he has the same organs as a woman,” Dr Masterson said on the ABC Good Morning America show.
Dr Masterson said, however, that transgendered men face special health risks resulting from their sex change. “It’s really important that he doesn’t take any testosterone early on in the pregnancy and later on,” she said. “That can cause male-type characteristics in the female baby.”
Some of the Beaties’ neighbours in Bend voiced scepticism about the pregnancy claim. One resident, Josh Love, told ABC: “I couldn’t say that he looks pregnant. I can stick my stomach out and almost make it look like that. I think it’s kind of bizarre. I don’t know if I believe it or not.”
The Advocate said it had confirmed the story with Mr Beatie’s doctor.
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I just watched the wonderful tv document about your experiences and I would like to take this opportunity to congradulate you both on the birth of your daughter. My belief is that children choose their parents. Remember she choose you both and take great pride and joy with her wonderful choice.
Mrs. Smart, Parry Sound, Canada
Dear Thomas & Nancy...
I can't say more since this is out off my mind, yet I wish you good luck and happiness......This is amazing....you will going to be wonderful parents for your daughter.......
Yolanda Indrawan, Bandung, Indonesia
For those who speak their minds without Compassion & Understanding for others: Gay couples or Transgenders to have their rights and freedom to live life. It is like taking away the life they wanted. This is human nature and WE are suppose to understand that instead acting like a GOD, beyond wisdom.
April, Legazpi, Phils
How can people talk about GOD and be Haters at the same time?
To those haters, you seriously need to reflect your won actions.
To the couple, I admire your strength and I wish you good luck.
Jel, Pasadena, USA
Discrimination and hate are very much alive and can be found not only in the comments I'm reading but in the disregard for the human rights of Transgender people everywhere. Stay strong my Trans friends. You have allies.
Thomas you have my most sincere congratulations and best wishes.
Bill O'Leary, Toronto, Canada
I think this whole story is ridiculous and what this couple is doing goes against all laws of nature. I don't believe in gay marriages, gay couples adopting and especially am against a transgender having a baby! Is this world going crazy?? Holy smokes!! This whole story makes me nauseous.
William, Toronto, Canada
I admire both Thomas and his wife for the bravery that they have both shown. They have not done anything to hurt or offend any other human being and we - as christians - have been taught not to judge. Anyone with the desire and capacity to love a baby is an assett to this evil world we live in x
Rebecca, Newtownards, Northern Ireland
go for it thomas dont worry about gossipers
Mallika, Woodlands, Singapore
lt's a pity that this beautiful girl decided to take the wrong turn. lt's easy to see that no matter how she trys to convince anyone she's a man, there will still be the real SHE behind her. The mensural cycle etc. lt's time for christians all over the world to get up and pray. James 5:17 -18
Naisha, Sinagapore, Singapore
Thomas in not a real man, let's face it...
If "he" was married to a woman that COULD concieve they would't have a child, because "he" can't produce any sperm...
So please don't try to convince us that "a man is being preagnant".
If my father was pregnant THAT would be a wonder! :-)
sotis, glyfada, Greece
Thak GOD, some one is there who knows its wrong , u r the man MYA GOD BLESS U MR joy, new york, NY
A Man
Raza, Dubai, UAE
Its wrong, we should not interfere in GOD decision, him or her what ever is trying to be a man but he cant, GOD shows him, we will face problems in the future
A MAN
Raza , Dubai, UAE
"HE, after some surgery and drugs to outwardly look like a man, chose to have a baby with the female reproductive organs that GOD gave HER. So what!
When a man caries a fertilized egg to term in his GOD given male body and produces a baby; that will be news and I will celebrate.
Deborah, Portland, USA
this is just plain wrong and here's why: That can cause male-type characteristics in the female baby. when you're even getting close to messing with the baby, you should be stopped. this is screwed up and anyone who denies it is in denial. Keep your open mindedness, you need it more.
dfdf, dfdf,
I am so happy for this family. Anyone willing to go through all of this pain and drama in an effort to create a family is a true parent. I'd rather 1,000 Mr. Beatie's have children than one drug addicted woman.
Someday people will get their heads out of the clouds and see that this is awesome.
AmieB, Burbank, USA
I personally do not understand why you people have a problem with this! It was his choice to become a man and its great that he still has the ability to bring a child into this world because his wife cannot. Besides, God gave us the right of choice and Thomas chose what he thought was best for him
Desi, Mendham, U.S.
Once your born you are what you are and you can't change even with surgery,If a guy gets a vasectomy that doesn't make him any less of a man and if a woman get's a mastectomy that doesn't make her any less of a woman, so if I got onion and paint it orange does it become a orange? No
Bryan, Ontario, USA
Congratulations to this couple just as much as any other. People need to grow up and stop living in historic times.
Lisa, San Rafael, USA
It's a wonder to behold the lengths people go to defy God. A man will NEVER!! have the abilty to carry a child. Please people Thomas as "he" calls "himself" is not male and never will be despite "his" present physical appearance. If "he" can somehow rearrange"his" genetic makeup lets see "him" try
Niece, Woods, Jamaica
Heaven help us all.
Lins, lamar, usa
I think it's fantastic that Thomas is putting himself for his wife. I'm one of the people that support Thomas :)
Sam, Cedar Falls, IA, USA
Rock on.
Grace Keck, Muskogee,
hey thomas and nancy i wish you all the best for you ,nancy little susan she is soo cute i hope there will not be any more compilcations with the birth of your second child i know little susan will make a great big sister
priscilla, buford, usa
hey thomas and nancy,
i think it awsome you to are haveing kids.i think it set an example for our young ones today. they should know they can be however they want to be even if it does mean they are homo. and if god didn't want it to be this way he would of stoped it from happening. so congrates!
mel, musk., us
I fully support Him and Nancy they are wonderful people. I and My Fiancee have talked to them personally and I am glad that they are having there second child. I wish Thomas well in this pregnancy.
Thomas and Nancy Take care you two.
Binks, Omaha,
I was just reading some of the comments and just thought about how horribly negative they are. [Get off their backs and leave them be, seriously. You don't have to go through this and I am pretty sure you would have different views if someone in your family did this. Get over it. It's done.]
Kaylie, Goodland, Kansas, United States of America
Hey, i think that it is absolutely fantastic you having a baby! i'm so glad that you could make your family happy. I don't think it matters that you are a transman.....as long as you and your family are healthy and happy i think that is all that matters...i wish you all the very best. Godbless xx
Millie Crozier, Hastings, New Zealand
good on you brother... Horray to transmen who wanted to have biological children
Santonino, Canberra, Australia
Congratulations Beaties! I think it's fabulous that they went through with all of this despite the difficulties with people looking down on them. Kudos to you Beaties for doing what you want to do in life and loving it!
Megan, Tennessee,
i think its wonderful. that you were able to have a child and help your family be happy for having one. I hope everything is well for you. :]
Samantha, Fountain, Colorado
In todays messed up world where there are so many unwanted pregnancies and abandoned children, all I can say is it's nice to see a baby born to two loving parents. She's a lucky little girl. I wish them the best.
Denise, LHC, usa
I think it is wonderful. I may not be one choose transgender or any other lifestyle choice outside of heterosexual, however, everyone deserves to have a baby, children and family. I am a 42 year old female who has never been able to conceive. I would love to talk with Mr. Beatie, wish them well.
Laurie, Buffalo, New York
i think it is amazing! who cares what other people think! they dont have any influence on your lives so do ignore. i hope mr and mrs beatie are well and wish mr and mrs beatie good luck for the future xxxx happy new year!
claire, leeds, united kingdom
Dont listen to all horrible things that people say at the end of
the day you are living your life and loving one another thats all that matters it has northing to do with anyone else wishing you all the love and happiness in the world .
tina x x
tina , hull, england
well it may seem abnormal for a man to have a child but than again who are we to judge what normality really is. I believe everyone has a right to have a child. Being a parent is everyones right.
Maria, Valley Stream, usa
i also think there is nothing wrong with the beaties and wish them well with their second pregnancy..good luck and best wishes xxx
mel, spalding, uk
I feel for this family they have made their choice to be together no matter what the hurdles are and to have a family together.
With all the hate, war and blood shed around the world, people still find it neccessary to judge this family when all they have done is love each other and have a family!!
maria, lincoln, uk
i think theres nothing wrong with the beaties, they are giving that baby girl love and no one can judge that. if he wants 2 be a man thats fine and have 1,2,3 or 4 more children its got nothing 2 do with anyone. CONGRATS on your 2nd pregancy
kerrie lancaster, nottinghamshire, united kingdom
their own live and stop interfering in others and they also need to stop living in the dark age & realise tranditional familys dont always work.
i firmly believe that anyone that can offer a child a stable and loving home should be allowed to no matter their sex or sexual orientation.good luck.xx
tina mcmullen, ashford kent, england
I Dont Get Why People Are So Mean To These People.
They Should Just Leave Them Alone And Let Them et On With Their Lives. It's Clearly none Of Their Business.
I Wish Them All The Best For The Future And Congrats(:
They Make Good Parents Man Or Woman.
(:
x
Samm, Wales,
"Thomas is not a man she simply just lives her life as one and that is fine. I am no one to judge, but seriously people stop calling her a man.
This is all for the publicity and it is sickening."
That's so disgusting. Thomas is a man, & probably a better person within himself then you ever will be
Dallas, Brisbane, Australia
I think what Thomas is doing is great. I see nothing wrong with what the Beaties are doing. I am from Oregon myself & am proud to share a home state with the Beaties. I wish the Beatie family a Great Christmas!! Good luck with your baby & I hope your second pregnancy goes great too.
Jade M, Herlong, USA
I find it sad that so many people have no better way to judge people except by their gender. I wish all the best to this couple and they be able to empower their girl to see beyond those individuals lack of intellegence and not hate them for their judgements. Life is for everyone in every situation.
Donella Fradkin, Reno, USA
Thomas is not a man she simply just lives her life as one and that is fine. I am no one to judge, but seriously people stop calling her a man.
This is all for the publicity and it is sickening.
Rissie, Lexington, USA
I just saw the reportage in Swe tv and i just loved it!
We wish you all a nice christmas and a happy new year.
My family in Sweden wish you all the best.
God Bless!
Anna, Stockholm, Sweden
Please see the link >
http:/needing-fathers.blogspot.com
Stella , London ,
Well Done! I am pleased to hear that everything is ok! And congrats with your second pregnancy!
I am pregnant as well for the second time, we lost our first child ...
Good luck and lots of happiness to you.
Danielle, Leuven, Belgium
We are very happy for you two!!!! let all people live in antique - times if you are happy that is the most important thing!!!!
We just see the reportage in Belgium and I thing you are really graet, and your family looks very happy.
I loved to have childeren of my own but we can't. Good luck=)
Wendy Smits, Antwerp, Belgium
I think it's great that thomas is doing something because there are so many childless and the request does not meet their können.Also got big thumbs up repekt for you 3 and I am delighted for them for 2 children.
Nicole, oschatz, Germany
I think it's wonderful that little Susan 'hopefully' gets a little brother! Their children will get more love than some, good luck to them!
Faylinn, Suffolk, England
I just watched 'The Pregnant Man' on 4od and i think its very brave of Thomas and Nancy, and of course baby susan to put up with all those unsupportive people. I was very happy to hear that Thomas is pregnant again and i wish him and Nancy good luck with it all. Hope all goes well ! =]
Saoirse, Cork, Ireland
let them be happy with their own children
its great that they can have children with this solution
and everybody has the right to have a family
people always have to complain about things
complain about important stuff and leave this family alone
and Beatie family. congratulations
esther, Oldenzaal, Netherlands
Leave the Beaties alone, what they choose to do is their own business. We should take more interest in more important issues in society.
I wish them well and continue to keep being themselves - Susan is a very lucky little girl to have such a loving family.
Elise, Wales, UK
i ham extremely happy and annoyed.
happy for Thomas and the family and annoyed at the lack of humanity from some people.
i dont personally know him but no matter your age gender or colour if your happy being a legal man even with fmal organs then whose to say your any less of a man than i am
Marc D Williams, weston super mare, england
I wonder how the mother taking testosterone will affect the child?
In situations like this everyone seems to forget that this child will likely get bullied horrendously at school.
Chris, London,
He is a woman having a baby period. And why did he decide to keep his female organs, if he felt he truly was meant to be a man? He sounds a bit mixed up to me; or someone who can't make up their mind.
terri, plymouth, united states
It is great that Thomas and Nancy can have a baby. However, this is by no way a miracle greater than any other pregnancy. Although Thomas is a man (legally) he is still biologically a woman. This is not anymore miraculous than any other woman getting pregnant. Thomas is a woman having a baby!!!!!
Dr. Vanessa Ryan, Chicago, US
This is not a miracle.
"He" has a vagina, uterus, etc.
It is a woman giving birth, period dot.
A kid wearing a dalmatian halloween costume does not suddenly become a dog.
Chrsitina, Memphis, TN,
I think that this is absolutely beautiful. It doesn't matter what parts you were born with. You are still a person and everyone needs to respect that. If Thomas feels like a man, looks like a man and has been legally considered a man, HE IS A MAN. At least their baby has 2 loving parents.
Bonna, Kokomo, IN, USA
Dearest Mr & Mrs Beatie, I am so very proud of you both You have all my love and support Your family is a true insperation of love Hatefull words do hurt but dont give them the power to hurt your fellings & Mrs Beatie your daughters are so full of love u must be so proud Congradulation to u all
Victoria , Dublin, Alameda
really its not a miracle or a great thing happening MRS. BEATIES was born a women so she is able to have kids ok so wat she is not a man giving birth she is a women giving birth and i bleieve america is confusing the two. just because u put a bBK special sauce on a big mac does not make it a whopper
crystal, sacramento, usa
this is a woman who is now a man with female organs. I say this is still a woman who is having a baby, not a man.
lisa, ohio,
Hey. News Flash world: Men don't get pregnant...and women do, it's that simple. There's a reason it's been thousands and thousands of years until we see this "pregnant man"...because it's not natural. It's fantastic that he can be in a lesbian relationship guilt-free, good for "him."
Will, Culleoka, United States
Congratulations!
I think they have as much right of having a child of their own as anyone else does. We're all human beings right? Just think about how lucky they are, that they can actually have a child.
I think it's absolutely amazing and in no way "wrong", as others may describe it. Good Luck!
Valentina, Caracas,
How selfish and irresponsible! Yet majority congratulates this selfish and irresponsible couple. And unfortunately no one seems to care about this baby who will call his mother 'papa'. I am sorry but LOVE is not selfish.
Melisa, vermont,
I do not believe this transgender is fully a male,with out the male genetalia. Is she/he any different than a woman whos had a masectomy? That's all he's had done besides male hormones.
But I am happy the child is healthy.
Melinda L Smith, LANGLEY, Canada
hahaha omg that kid is gonna get so much crap in school if they find this out i feel so bad for her ,but hey at least the kid will have two parents thats more then i can say good luck
Sin Fiend, new york, usa
This baby girl has more than most people. Two parents who love her unconditionally! To Lamecia who feels embarrassed, and thinks god is upset, you must not know god! He does not judge , he does not get upset in the way you think. Congratulations and best wishes .
Susan, Albuquerque, United States
errrm havent you forgotton that s/he IS a woman?? he has just had treatment to become more male along with his psycological feeling of beeing male. good luck to them, but i still think its disturbing the way we play with nature as a whole
pete, euston,
This is totally wrong! If God wanted men to give birth he will do it since he first created life. This is so scary.
J, Colorado, usa
Hey man, or women.. The gift of llife is so amazing, congrat's to both of you. Live your live's to the fullest., and forget about all the drama. My daughter was born on the fouth of july and i also have a six year old son, my children are my life so make your's the same. Best of luck.
marco, lehighton,
Hey guys, congrats.. although I believe the progress of Science paved the way on this occurence, it's still a miracle and it's definitely Go-given
Patty - Philippines
Patty, Chicago,
I disagree w/both extreme ends of the spectrum! Artificial insemination (no matter who the recipient) is not morally "wrong," but it is also not biologically "natural" - and it is certainly not selfless, not when there are millions of lovable and adoptable babies and children in need in the world!
Ann, Manville,
So what he use be. It would be nice if doctors could figur out a way to make a person who was born a male pregnant. Even find a way for men & women to feel what each other goes throu in life such as birthing, sex etc . We would elimanate things like divorce, sex crimes, etc.
Roger , Silverhill, USA
I am surprised & impressed at the overwhelming support of Beatie family on these posts! The capacity for human love, understanding, and acceptance is amazing! However, miracle?? Socially, Thomas' gender identity is male. Biologically, his/her sex is still female. This is not the movie Junior!
Ashley , Lincoln,
It's a matter of respect.. They made their own decision, give due respect on that. Congratulations and may you have a healthy baby.
Patty, Chicago,
First of all I would like to say congrats to the Beatie family. I don't see why people are making a big deal about this. Everyone has a right to have a family no matter what you people say. Let them be and let them have a family.
Dragon, Kansas,
Good for them!!!! Congrats on your daughter.
rebecca, elberton, usa
I do not understand why people are call this a miracle. He (I use that very lightly" was not a pregnant man. "He" may look like a man, but the only way possible to give birth is to have the female anatomy. Inside "he" is still a she!
Ryan, Kansas City, United States
Wow! I think that is awesome! Good for Thomas and Nancy. I believe everything happens for a reason. God blessed them with a beautifu child. This is just another way of God showing he loves his children!
cass, yuma, usa
with all the money from those photos, that baby can for sure go to college! and grad school! it's a great thing to share and defend what you're doing and the decisions and rights of all families and couples, as long as they not super-profitting from putting a freak show...
cecilia, phoenix,
How do we know that this is not how God would have wanted it? If you believe that God greated this world you have to recognize that it is through his power we have been given these abilities. God created fish that change sex and homosexual lizards. In God's great world Mr. and Mrs. Beatie are normal
Julie, MA,
Sometimes the human race astounds me... If Thomas and Nancy are selfish then so is every other married couple on the face of the planet that wants to have biological children. End of story. I think it's awesome what they did!! Completely and totally inspiring.
Heather, London, ON,
I think his rights to have a child is the same as every person but he should have stayed a women and go on to having the baby. But i wish your family the best and peaceful life. Good luck on doing what you believe in and not giving in!!!!
Vivian, Washington,DC, USA
This is just not the way God intended it to be.
Amber, Fort Worth, USA
It is truly sad to see what a selfish society we've become. If they wanted a family, why not adopt a child that isnt loved and give them a home. Why put a child through the possible emotional and physical trauma that could develop from this. The only people that were thought of were the two parents.
becky, portland, or
Why do people fear science and the miracles that it can perform? Two loving people, husband and wife, contributors to their community, hurting absolutely no one........ The only hurt comes from the narrow minded people they are surrounded by.
Kathy, Washington, DC, USA
I am really glad this worked out for both the Beatie's. I just think people shouldn't discriminate against other people wanting to have a family as long as they can provide a healthy and loving atmosphere for the child. Good Luck to both of you!
Mercedes, San Jose, USA
I wish this family the best, a baby is a blessing no matter how it comes into the world. New life equals new hope! My hope is that this baby will grow up in a more tolerant world.
Julia, Mass., USA
This is the most outrageous thing I have seen in a long time. People, wake up and look at what we have become. God created man and woman for a reason. I feel terrible for this child and what she will go through when she finds out that she was in "Daddy's" belly. Utterly selfish situation.
Sarah, Kansas City, USA
This is such a beautiful thing. He is such a caring man to do this for his wife and future family.
I don't think his pregnancy will not affect the family any differently later in life than a more 'standard' pregnancy. Why should it? They are obviously very loving and supportive parents. God bless.
Sarah, Seattle, Washinton
The child is essentially the product of a very unusual experiment. Physical abnormalities may occur, and it is likely that the child will be subjected to a degree of social scrutiny, such that her peers of conventional origin would not.
Ian, Sandusky, United States
treasure what God has given to you.
whatever people wan to say...screw them!
congrats!
joan, melaka, malaysia
its amazing that he had a natural birth waas just reading it in the paper and all i could do was smile because its just such an amazing story he will be a great father
Jay, Halifax, England
All I can say is that I feel bad for this child. I don't mean to offend anyone, but where do we draw the line. It is unfair to bring an innocent child into this mess. Why is everyone trying to change what God has created between a man and a woman?
Raquel , Grand Rapids, MI , USA
Well I think it is amazing. I really feel that he will be a great father to his baby. No matter what type of life you choose to live in and whatever body that doesn't have anything to do with the love for a child.
Nikki, Alabama, United Sates
This is wonderful! It is their choice and they made the right choice. If they are able to provide love for the baby, I don't see anything unethically wrong with it.
Audrey Yeo, Singapore, Singapore
I am a woman myself. However, as I dread pregnancy, I've been procrastinating the thought of having a child. Mr. Beatie has demonstrated far more love and courage than I do. I'm pretty sure that he will love the child and the family in his best capacity.
Julia, Nagano, Japan
a woman with beard... from "carnivale" the travelling circus
Leo, Budapest, Hungary
It's great to see posts that aren't ignorant, disciminating, or hateful-I'm a social worker and just when I think there's no hope for the world I see amazing posts like these full of support, understanding and tolerance. More thinking like this and their daughter won't have a problem! Thank you all
Alyson, Clayton, USA
I think Mr Beatie did the right thing. I am proud of him and his wife for fighting prejudice, and I wish them a good and happy life with their new baby.
Isamar, Caracas, Venezuela
there is nothing unnatural about the whole procedure, she a woman for God sake,remember she's got her reproductive organs intact. This is too natural to be unbelievable!
adusei, accra, ghana
i think this whole issue is totally over-rated. i mean seriously, why make a big fuss out of this when the person giving birth is a female? isnt it normal for females to give birth? unless this thomas here had taken away the female reproductive organs too and then got pregnant, THEN its a miracle
ling, singapore, singapore
she's not a man in the first place. a man can have no uterus/ vagina/ ovaries , so technically you can't call her a man even though she takes too much testosterone that she even grew a beard and mostache. because that's what happens when women administer testosterone, that's abc of endocrinology.
zbotto, cairo, egypt
this is unbelievable...i honor the fact that he/she is willing to face the complications of pregnancy. However, this is really unnatural in everyway. Its like redefining nature and changing the way women and men function in the world. The question is, how difficult is it going to be for the baby?
Cliff, Dubai, UAE
I'm really fed up with all the "god's and jesus' people" who for me are really bad people. They are the ones who are making the worst comments for this story oterhwise full of love.
I wish all the best for the Beaties and their brand new daughter
Daniela, Milano, Italy
I am very very happy for him and his family.
I am very touched by his story and very inspired.
This is the person who want to be happy and he doesn't care about what people thinks. He is very inspiring. Happiness is really a choice and he did the right thing.
mell, puerto princesa, Philippines
This is beautiful. People should never scorn this love. Parents who love their family this much, and so unselfishly are to be admired. Congratulations to this happy family.
Analina, Sacramento, USA
As an individual with strong values, he was determined to give birth to a baby girl. I can confidently say that Mr Beatie will be a good father to the baby girl.Do not base your judgement of a person on the way they look and the way they do things but to figure out why they do that.
Gayathiri, Punggol, Singapore
Thomas,
I first read your story in a spanish paper in Spain "El Pais"...i think its marvillous and wonderful and I am very happy for you and your family. You are not only creating something beautiful but also helping people all over the world realize that there are many ways to live life happily!
jonina, Sevilla, Espana
I first saw ur story, I tot it was ridiculous. But it was a move of courage and most importantly, LOVE! E path down will be tough but if you would have decided to walked down, I believe you would have know e odds. She might need to go thru more than any child but she will be blessed.
Cynthia Shaw, Singapore, Singapore
He stopped taking hormones to get pregnant. It would have been impossible for him to have gotten pregnant if he was still taking the testosterone hormone. Before you decide to judge people's decisions, please get your facts straight. I'm sure he didn't go into this blindly. He knows what he's doing.
Kayleigh, Akron , US
Hay Mr. and Mrs. Beatie xD First, I must say; Wow!!I love that your doing this for your wife Mr.Beatie. I Hope your doyghter will be a very open minded woman. btw is she born yett?, it's a day since the sett date.
I wish all the luck to you and I'm sure you'll be a good father for your doughter xD
Hege Valle, 16 years, Aalesund, Norway
People believe what they want to believe, then find 'reasons' to justify that belief.. What you have here is a woman trying to act as a man, but nature (and science) acting otherwise. > You cannot change the spots on a leopard, no matter how hard you rub.
Bria, New Zealand,
To Caitlin from Skamania. If you read closer, you'd see he stopped taking hormones before the insemination. The female hormones regulated themselves before he became pregnant with the baby girl.
Noa, Seattle,
way to go mr thomas! prayers r w u. god bless....n do take care. :)
eliza, kuala lumpur, Malaysia
because of the hormone stuff he's taking, the baby might be born with a birth defect. why subject a baby to that? i don't have any problem with him changing his gender, that's his business, but if he's going to involve a baby, he should realize its not all about him anymore, and adopt instead.
Caitlin, Skamania, USA
Hello Mr Beattie. Wow. How marvellous it is for you to have this child. All children need is love and I can tell you will be a good parent to this child who will be a very lucky person for being born into such an open minded family. Best wishes , peace and love!
Cori Burns, Nottingham, UK
Dear Mr Beatie,
Im really touched by your story...may god bless your family and your new kid..im proud of the brave decision and ur selfless motive...good luck for everything...
lots of love...
angel, kuala lumpur, malaysia
I think that it's his right to have children and it's not the business of anyone else. Negative comments about the woman's role etc. and that he's taking away what it is to be a woman are stupid, the world's changing and I think we should be more positive about it all.
Hannah, Lugano, Switzerland
Love it..
Hina, Flemington, Australia
congrates Beatie
i am really happy for u
i am not oppose of what u have done
i am proud on u b'coz u have listen ur heart
and yes neglect what people says
people can never see anyone happy
but u don't worry whatever u have done is a new history in itself
have gr8 health and safe delivery
deshmukh, amravati, india
As a pregnant woman I think it is absoloutly disgusting what he is doing! It's one thing to be born a woman and to undergo surgery and change that but for a man to give birth?? What does that say about woman roles and the parts we are to play in the circle of life? It's gross.
Amanda, Brisbane, Australia
It is a good thing to do as an eye opener for conservatives who are not ready to embrace a rapidly changing world, and an encouragement for other trans-sexuals who would maybe fall in the same situation;
But still comes to what decisions we make in life, and if they would bring about regrets later.
Amaheno Okila, Nairobi, Kenya
Think about the child;
she may be abused by her friends
god knows where it wil end
venu, Hyderabad, India
I personally dont believe this should be about a man having a baby or a women having a baby. The point is that a LOVING COUPLE who share a REAL LOVE are courageous enough to bring a child into this world. And I highly doubt they wake up in the morning looking for ppl's approval!No 1 should! LIVELIFE
Ivan, Ithaca, USA
By the way does anyone know who is the biological father of this child?
Ravikant, Mumbai, India
YIKES.....it is little wonder that this United States is the laughingstock it so richly deserves to be. Ruth from L.A.----this is not about "making judgements"; it is about understanding what belongs in the nature of things and what does not.. Men should stay men, and women should stay women.
Ben Steinke, Lincoln, NE, USA
I haven't read through all of the posts, so forgive me. Can someone please explain to me why a woman having her breasts removed and taking testosterone injections makes her eligible for legal male status? I truly don't get it.
Melissa, Kansas City , MO
Sick. Wrong. Disgusting. Unfair to the child. Oh, wait - he was born a woman? Well then he's still a woman. Every chromosome in his body has the DNA of a woman. You can glue wings to a bullfrog and call it a hummingbird, but that doesn't make it so - even if it's politically correct to recognize it.
Bradley, St Louis, USA
Here is an excellent article on "judging others". http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2001/october1/29.70.html
How can we live in a society without making judgments? Is not the statement that someone is judging another also a judgment?
Ruth, Los Angeles,
I saw the episode on Oprah as well. Yes, they look like a loving couple. I hope the baby turns out 100% ok since there is steriods in the body...
monika, chicago,
To begin with I belive that these peopel will love and take care of that baby as mutch as if the wife would have given birth to it.
And to all you that only have bad things to say; why do you care? It is not your life or your dissition so why care? what bigger prof of love can it be?
Ellen, Mönsterås, Sweden
What's the big deal??? It's still a woman!
JUST a woman with boobs removed and on hormones. That's it!
When a REAL man has a baby, that will be news. This is just money making rubbish.
Marvin, Arnsville, Australia
I saw the Beaties on Oprah, two people loving each other very much. Two people being so happy having a baby together. The two daughters from the previous marriage were at the show too, wonderful young women. It's about love, and love is God. How can love be wrong?
Sandy, Amsterdam,
Readers, how coulcd this be the will of God? God designed Women to have children. Not women who turn into men having babies. It just isnt right. We need to pray in the name of Jesus that the remaining months of Mr. Thomas and Nancy Beatie will be having a healthy baby girl.
Thanks for reading.
Mason Wheeler, Honolulu, Hawaii
wish the Beaties all the best and i hope that the little girl is accepted in the society as well as any other child and ....Hope there are no complications in the delivery and that the little girl has a healthy life.
once again ...wishing the Beaties Good Luck with the child !
Charm, Chennai,
I hope that when this little girl is older, she will be living in a world where it isn't important that her father gave birth to her or that he was once in appearance also, a woman.
Good luck to the Beatie family and I hope that the birth goes well.
Kristen Young, Sydney, Australia
You can't change DNA. Thomas Beatie didn't become a man. Thomas has the appearance of a man.
If I had surgery to add a tail, whiskers, and pointy ears, and received therapy to purr and mew, would I BE a cat? No, just an altered human. Thomas is an altered woman, & pregnant. God bless baby.
Christi, St. Louis,
how is it disgusting? Pregnancy is a miracle of life, he probably would have been more than happy to have his wife have a baby, but since she cant, and they want a baby, he will. there's nothing wrong with that at all! I think its horrible that people are critcizing them! only bcuz they're different
clarissa , st louis,
Immoral? Unethical? How so? We arent talking about some one sleeping with your sister or someone stealing. We are talking about a person who can give the gift of life giving it. If Mr. Beatie has the organs and can do it, why not? Gender identity is fluid. It is for each person to work out alone.
Jason Finizza, Los Angeles, USA
first off Mr.Beatie is not a "she" by any means. granted he was born a female but when he got the sex change he became male and even though he kept his female organs, he is still a man. i think it is a wonderful thing that he is doing for his family. so people need to stop judging him for doing this
Amber Falscroft, Michigan, United States
I think it is disgusting. When she chose to be a "man" then she gave up her right to have a baby. You can't go back and forth. If she wants to be a man, and if your "wife" can't get pregant then adopt. It is immoral and unethical.It's very confusing for children to see a "man" pregnant. Not natural
Jennifer, Reynoldsburg,
I think it's a beatuiful thing that thomas beatie is having a baby besides yall can't judge him yall don't know what it feels like to not be able to have a child so stop judging him only god can judge him no one knows what it's like to be turned away by doctors and nureses im happy for mr beadie <3
Ashley, Morgan City, united states
While I see nothing wrong with someone wishing to be a parent and give birth I still think people are getting off course on this one. SHE is not a pregnant man. She is a pregnant woman doing what many other LESBIAN COUPLES do to have children. I guess the idea of a pregnant man sounds more salacious
Missi, Kentucky, Unites States
I dont see anything wrong with the thomas beatie carrying his own child. The child will be brought up in a mother father enviroment. You get children being adopted into two woman or two men households, so whats really the difference? Plus thomas beatie isnt the only one, there is many more.
katy, glasgow,
he is not a man if HE was a man HE would not be able to bear a child so basically every1 is blinded by the situation pretend all you want this is not a man if he can carry a baby he wants to be recognized as a man while giving birth ? something that only woman can do - thats an oxymoron
lucia, bronx,
All you people get a life!!!!...especially the one that says this incident is a BLESSING!!!...r u kidding me, which Bible you read that says this kinda thing is a blessing!!...i am sure Jesus Christ did not say that!!!...the only thing this shows is that the world is coming to an end soon!!.
Bola, Hawai,
If my husband could have carries our babies- more power to him! This is a REAL man to take the weight (literally) and swollen feet for his wife! Whomever has objections- call me when YOU are 9 months pregnant and in full labor and talk about what's 'right' and what's LIFE.
Erin, High Point,
Amazing. Absolutely amazing. Can you even fathom the strength it took for him to carry this child, knowing the ridicule he would have to endure? Despite his family, his wife's family, doctors, receptionist. . This man is going to bring a new and beautiful life into the world. What a blessing!
Ellen S., Prescott, AZ, United States
At least they are able to enjoy he pregnancy of their baby and not have to lokk elsewhere for a carrier, it's 2008 for pete sake. Sure it;s unusual but who gives as long as the end result pleases the family.And shame on the immediate family for no support. Focus on the baby,not the pregnancy.
tracy, knoxville, united states
I'm curios. Can ANYONE here tossing about comments like 'this is a woman' and 'he's actually a she' claim to know the slightest thing about transsexuality? Have you read any reputable definitions or information? Are you familiar with any of the social theory? The psychological research? The biological research and evidence from post-mortems? Anyone?
Are you reacting with fear and disgust because youâre done youâre research and genuinely cannot understand, or because you cannot be bothered to understand?
Until you know about what it is youâre discussing, could you consider not being so down right rude?
And to the bible thumpers, is the bible pick and mix now days? Because Iâm sure I remember it saying âjudge not lest though be judgedâ.
John, bedfordshire,
Every human being has an inherent freedom to make choices regarding to their own life, as long as they don't harm others and are responsible for their actions. If Thomas, who has complete rights and freedom over his own life, chooses to be a man, then everybody else must respect his choice, just as we must respect people's election of a house, a partner, a place to live in.
It is surprising and disappointing how people in a professional environment do not behave according to the values they claim to have. A doctor is free not to do this or that procedure, but they must treat every patient with respect, and they are showing an incredible amount of disrespect and intolerance toward Thomas and his wife by not respecting their choices.
I want to show Thomas and Nancy my support and wish them the best.with their baby, their marriage and their lives.
B. A. Vazquez, Monterrey, Mexico
This act will be looked down upon in any society or religious sect. But more than that I am concerned for the innocent child that is going to come into this world. A child that will have to face ridicule and negativity simply because of the choices his parents made? I respect the fact that we are different individuals. But I cannot understand why adoption as an option that could not be looked into?
However I believe it IS courageous of both of these individuals and I wish the innocent child well.Beacause it is unnatural and against the laws of nature.
Amna, CA,
This is an example of our society not willing to see things as they really are. Just because someone is gay doesnât mean that she can just say, âIâm a manâ and then she becomes a man.
A black man canât just say, âIâm a white manâ and then he becomes a white man. A giraffe canât just say, âIâm an elephantâ and then it becomes an elephant.
Just because this woman said, âI am a man. I have reduced my breasts, I take medicine that makes hair grow on my face, I changed my name, and I have sex with womenâ that doesnât make her a man. It just makes her a troubled, confused, gay woman.
Her troubled and confused state of mind is evidenced, by her interviews as she works for her 15 minutes of recognition.
But what is unfortunate is that the media is complicit in the lie.
The pathological liar tells her lie so much that she comes to believe the lie to be the reality. The truth can stare her right in the eyes and she psychotically believes the lie.
Are those that are promoting this story of mental illness by supporting the false reality as the true reality, any more honest? Or, do they just want the story to be true so much that they are willing to become pathological liars themselves?
Charles
Charles, Salt Lake City, UT, USA
I applaud Mr Beatie in what he is doing in order for he and his wife to have a family. I mean who are we to judge them. Only God has that right and I think all you people with your negative vibes should take it elsewhere because your opinions wont change the fact that he is pregnant. It goes back to the ld saying, " if u cant say anything nice, dont saying anything at all"
Mr Beatie, I wish both you and your wife the best of luck and I hope you born a healthy baby girl.
karimah, Bridgetown, West Indies
To be honest I was super surprised when I heard a man having a baby but less surprised when I heard he was a Transgender.I think its a really special thing that they would have the courage to face all of the world anoucing that he would carry this baby for his wife so the could have a family.Their love has to be soo extremely strong to face everyone and all there judgement.The ppl judgeing probably have spouses that are cheating or they dont have the relationship thats even a smidge close to what they have.If your going to bring GOD into it then you also do what he says "Thou shall no judge" its not our place.Gods the ONLY one that can judge us. Who the hell are we to say Thomas and his wife cant have a baby they way they want.
Rosanna, YORBA LINDA, CA
I feel sad for people who are afraid of something that is a little different, outside of the "norm." The way I see it, Thomas is a loving husband who wanted to help his wife have a child when she was unable to do so. as for the child, children are borm open to new things, naturally accepting. The child will adapt well, as long as it has loving parents, no matter what the configuration. It's only later in life that hate a predjudice is learned.
kathy, Iowa City, IA
Well, if that don't beat all! One of my concerns would be how the parents go about explaining sexuality and reproduction to the child down the road. This is really the ultimate case of having your cake and eating it too. "Mr." Beatie decides she's not really a woman and does the ultimate renouncement and alters her biology in order to mimic a man but in a pinch determines that it's acceptable to fall back on her innate reality - how convenient is that? Obviously "Mr." Beatie is a woman at her core, regardless of her attempt to become a man, it appears that she's likely a lesbian and putting on the facade allows her and her lover to live without harrassment from homophobes. Good luck!
Danarene, Lake View Terracce, CA
It's very easy to judge when you know you were born in the right body. Have some compassion for those who weren't. It's more difficult and traumatic than most can imagine.
Bill, Indianapolis,
This is definitely not acceptable. I find this apalling and America's embracing acceptance is disgusting. She needs to realize that she is still a woman retaining no natural rights to being a male. Having been born without a male reproductive organ, she is therefore a female and re-creating her pseudo-manhood is an insult to males in the first place. This pregancy should not be publicized as it attempts to undermine the uniqueness of female identity and the miracle to procreate making it seem possible for anyone to bear children. This is not the case! She has even denied herself natural bonding by not being able to lactate. A woman who desired man qualities should NOT expect to "bear the best of both worlds". I am not impressed with her hormone therapy. The bearded lady at the circus isn't a man either. A simple anatomical examination would disprove her altar ego of a man. It is simply ridiculous. I pity them both for they are lost, and I fear for the child.
Nicole, Phoenix, AZ
I think this is way to much for her/his body and it could be to much for the child now and not to mention in her future. Unfortunately not everyone has an open mind and I know she will go through a lot of unwanted comments from schoolmates and neighbors. There are so many babies out there without parents in need of adoption. That would have been a better solution for them and no boby would have ever found out he was a she and he/she wouldn´t have any health risks.
Arianna, Distrito Federal, Mexico City
Who cares? The oceans have become toxic slime pits. There are PCB's (which cause cancer) in everyone's fatty tissue. Our economy is about to collapse under imperial war. This article should have been about planting a garden. We need to get a handle on our consumption or Mr. Beaties kids will have nothing to eat.
Louis, Almsville, Or
There is nothing wrong with Beatie having a baby! He was born a women and a women has the natural ability of giving birth! If he wants to put out as a man having a baby so be it b/c ironicaly he is b/c he is transgender he was born a women but was a man in heart! It is also nice that he would give up with no one ever knowing about him ever being a women and let it out just so him and his wife can have a baby that is a loving devoted HUSBAND! I think it is great!
Stacy Rasmuson, Elmore City, Oklahoma
Thomas Beatie can legally be called a man because she removed her breasts and takes male hormone. This might be enough for him to fool himself...however, everything about his "manliness" is fake. His beard, his penis, even his name ironically the only thing real about him is that he has female reproductive organs. He was born a female and inside is still a female...no matter what she wants to be on the outside. So to say that she is a pregnant man is deceiving only to her. She is merely doing what her body was naturally design to do as a woman "GIVING BIRTH"
sannira , houston, tx
I think it's great! Thomas Beatie is right about neither woman or man wants a child, but a HUMAN. I think this is a great story to tell. The world gives us our own perspective on how we see "giving birth" is a woman's duty! But I'm actually happy that something like this came up. I was just talking to my husband the other day and I told him that ONE DAY the world is going to change and there will be "men giving birth". Let it be fair for all mankind. =) Have a safe labor Thomas Beatie! My best regards to you!
Julieta, Oakland, CA
First of all, Beatie is a man. Stop referring him as 'she'. He transgender, so what? His body is a woman's but *he*, the real him is a man. Beatie is not a freak, and it's perfectly fine for him to be pregnant. He just acting like a human being, with his desire to have a child that he can raise and love. Regradless of sex and gender, a birth is a wonderful thing to all people. All parents are like that, regardless if they are male or female. They all love thier children. So his wife can't have a baby, and he's volunteering to have the baby for her. I think that's awesome. And to you people who think it's wrong, or he's a weirdo and all, you stop being to ignorant and self-center. Open your eyes and start trying to see more than just your small little world. While the media has made this into too big of a deal, I doubt he really wants all that attention and stress when he's pregnant.
Helena, Baltimore,
What I don't understand is how 'he' can be officially classed as a male when he still has female reproductive organs and the ability to carry a child? It's not so much a man carrying a child as a woman with a beard, there's nothing so extraordinary in that.
Rachel, Norwich, UK
It is his life and he can do what he wants. If it makes him and his wife happy then go ahead and do it, all power to you. Dont listen to what others say cause they will always put you down to make themselves look and feel better.
Nicole, Columbiana, U.S.A./ AL
I know you've got some haters... but whatev. This is a great thing you are doing for your family. If you are religious person, God will not hate you. Guess what all you christians, your God is supposed to be an all loving, and also, FORGIVING (if this is even considered a sin?) God. Personally I am not Christian but I hate watching all these crazy Christians trying to force their beliefs on you. How do we know that âgodâ didnât have this family in mind⦠ugh, these people make me want to hate religion in general.
Good luck to you, and hopefully these people will not get to you. Honestly, they are not in the situation⦠and youâll be much greater parents than most. Some Christians would rather have a man who beats his wife, and the wife is crippled with depression and cannot leave, because, that is the family structure that, âgodâ intended. Right. What a freaking joke.
Much love from Minnesota =)
Lilly, Minneapolis, Minnesota
Many comments on this page have said something about god, and saying that men should not be having children...well just to let you know, he was born a woman, and though he may look like a man, he is a woman. Just because he wanted to appear as something else on the outside, doesnt change what he is on the inside. I believe that we all have the right to do what we want with our lives, and i understand the desire to have your own children, and i believe that if this family wanted to have their own kids, then so be it...leave them alone and let them live their lives the way they want too..no one is judging you for your day to day choices..so why judge them?
Ashley Smith, Cooper, Texas
I think that every single being on Earth should be able to do whatever they choose. It's not your job to judge people on how they want to live their lives.
If you were Thomas Beatie, I am sure that you wouldn't want someone to make fun of you because you've decided to have a baby. Keep your opinions to yourself because you shouldn't be criticizing someone who is...different from everyone else. They might not be perfect but they are allowed to have a baby if they want...even if he is a man.
Nicole H., Bend, U.S.A./Oregon
I don't believe that one has to chose to be strictly either male or female. Human sexuality is naturally varied and fluid. I think Mr. Beatie and his wife are doing a brave thing to refute the unnecessary gender dichotomy that rules our society. I wish the best for their family and that they are met with the tolerance every human deserves.
Claire, Los Angeles, California
I am a pretty religious teen, and I understand that "if God meant for men to have children, he would've made them that way" or whatever. But I also understand that only God can judge you. If this man (woman?) wants to have a baby, then who the heck cares? Mind your own business. Let God handle it however he wants to handle it. You're not perfect, and I'm sure you've sinned once or twice. Sure, I don't necessarily agree with this. But who are we to tell this person how to live? They're going to live however they want to live, regardless of what we have to say!! So just relax, breathe, and let God handle it while you take care of your own life!
Alyssa, Buda, USA/TX
A miracle, please! The only miracle will be if this child has any chance of a normal life. How is this child going to feel knowing her so called father had her. If men were to have children the lord would have made it that way. There is nothing special or sacred about this, it is sick and twisted. All I have to say is that if you really wanted to have a baby then you wanted to be a woman therefore, no need to be confused and go through a sex change.. Some one, as in you Thomas Beatie, is still looking for attention. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Heather-Northern Virginia
Heather, culpeper, virginia.
This human being doesn't even know if he/she wants to be a man or woman. Psychological treatment should be in place before getting pregnate
Gustavo, Brazil,
I am just glad that its not my place to judge other people on what they do. I try to live my own life according to what I believe to be right. Live and let live. I believe in alot of things that correspond with the Bible even though no one can prove it was God who dictated it to the prophets. But if you believe it to be so, than you know that only God has to right to judge people.
Anyhow, I did want to say to Cindy in Jamaica that as far as gays saying that it is right.& you don't think so because if it is right they shouldn't have to spend their energy convincing the world that this is so. Well....a while back, the blacks were spending alot of energy trying to convince the world that slavery was wrong and then segregation.
Tracy, Deltona, USA/FL
From creation a woman should bring forth a child and not a man and if you change from woman to a man then you should not be having a child. I think this is sick and gays keep saying that it is right. I don't think so because if it is right they shouldn't have to spend their energy convincing the world that this is so. This is evident that the coming of the Lord is near. Everyone is entitle to their beliefs and I think that they are forcing others to believe as they do. Take the ultimatum that the Canadian gay right place on Jamaica. They cannot force people to accept what they don't want to. I will never accept this as normal and even if the Jamaican Government accept this a majority of the population will not.
Cindy , Kingston , Jamaica
Thomas you say this is a "miracle". Can you please explain when it became such a miracle for a female to have a baby?
mja, Clinton, USA
I think its a cool thing and that he has more respect for women then some men do..
Amy, East Syracuse , NY
Why is this woman being represented as a man?
Neil, Gloucestershire, England
I am happy for them. But i would not call this a male pregnancy. Men do not have female reproductive organs.
Arleene, Montour Falls , USA NY
I am very happy that this man is able to live his life the way that he wants to. Some people think that they are trapped in the wrong body when they are born, a man thinking that he should be in a womans body or vice versa, isn't uncommon whatsoever. I think that it is fantastic that they are able to be open about it and share their story with the world, America, it's time for a wake up call to all of these people who are so closed minded. People deserve to be what they want to be. Everyone is entitled to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and if you want to take that away, thats just wrong.
Whitney, Clinton, Maine
This 'male' pregnancy is very strange, but just because something is on Oprah doesn't mean that it's being 'forced' on you. Who turned on the TV? I wouldn't do this myself but it's their business and if people are upset by it or don't know how to explain it, I think that's their problem. I'm sure it's not going to become that commonplace. There are a lot of things in this world that are going to be difficult to explain to my 2 year old son, but kids just roll with it - it's adults that have more difficulty.
pete, austin, tx
I know everyone has there stupid comments to say about this and yes they are stupid who cares what our generation are going to think if men can get pragnent you know something you are nieve if you think that kids growing up wont know if they are gay or bi or even wanna be transgender and when I adopt kids they can be who they want but when I raise them I raise them how my parents raised me. They never raised me to be gay so I will not do the same for them. They are there own individual. I think it is rather awesome that a man is pragnent it will give us a chance to see how painful it is to give birth then the women. Also I think that he will be a great father and his wife a very good mother and no one has to say that they wouldn't be you should stop trying to judge someone cause you don't want to go to hell cause i know most of you are Christian after all. EVERYONE has the right of LIBERTY and the PURSUIT of HAPPINESS in the United States of America so leave him alone and at peace ok.
Chris, Morris, IL
I am thoroughly dissappointed in many of those who have commented on this article. America is a country that prides itself on diversity, so what business is it of yours to judge a man and woman who wanted nothing more than to have a child of their own? I, for one, am proud to live in a country where a transgender man feels comfortable and safe enough to carry a child.
I wish the Beaties nothing but the best, and hope they have a wonderful life with their new baby girl.
Meagan, Lindenhurst, NY
I think it is cool..Who's to say this isnt the way things were at one point in time? If things werent this way then certain living things wouldnt be able to reproduce a sexually. The way I look at a family is it doesnt matter where the child is from as long as his family loves him no matter what. I think every man should have to carry a baby at least once so he can understand what we go through as women.
Darci, New Carlisle,
Why is god mentioned so much in all of this?? Are we really a society that has centered our own moral judgement on a book? Ok so go with the "god" theory just for a moment..It is said that woman is to give birth right?? Well was this "man" not born a woman?? Well there went that argument huh?Now we can argue the transgender subject,to all the straight god fearing people one question...What would you do if you woke up tomorrow and all of a sudden it was "WRONG" for you to love your spouse? Could you change the way you feel inside just like that? Then why is a gay or transgendered person expected to do so?? I am a bysexual woman so yes I feel I have the right to say just who the heck do you think you religious people are to tell us what we should think or feel?? Don't we live in America and have the right to choose? Why do we[gay and other people]have to live your way just to make you feel more comfortable?? If you really believe in the bible and read it you wouldn't pass judgement!!
Linda, Largo, Florida
oh come on now who are any of us to judge these people? they are not hurting anyone they wanted a family and it is their right to have one, as long as the child is loved and cared for properly let them get on with it. we should be worrying about all the abused and neglected children out there!
dee byrne, erith, england
i wish them the best in all they do, i to hope that the baby girl is healthy and happy , i'm sure the baby will be loved beyond beift by her parnets.
tina, syracuse, new york
To Victoria Mai,
Whether you are comfortable with this story or not, everyone has a right to their own opinion. Everyone has a right to live your life the way they like. If your neighbors, your co-workers, or just plain strangers are offended by how you live your life, that's a problem they must absorb. No one should have to hide parts of their life because other people will be offended. Everyone has some aspect of their public life that bothers someone else. By choosing to live in the world with others in a society and if we are lucky a community, we taken on the responsibility of accepting others despite whether or not we approve of their difference if we want to foster a community/society that accepts us.
A. K., San Francisco, CA
I think it is just WONDERFUL!!! This world needs a good wake up call...we are not living in the 1900's anymore...we are strong minded individuals who have rights to do what we want and change what we see fit and no one should take away from anothers right to make that CHOICE for themselves..turn the table around..how would you feel if you were in their shoes...they simply wanted to have a baby..and thankfully he/she was able to accommadate that for their family!
Keeping it real....I to have was once a woman and I had a complete change but if I had the opportunity to finalize that chapter in my life for my wife, I would not even think twice about having a baby.
Tim Bolden, Atlanta, USA/Georgia
I really think that this put an interesting aspect on human nature. So many women in the world today struggle with pregnancy and child birth. How many MEN would actually be willing to carry or even consider carrying a baby for their spouse? This is a pure example of how much emotion is truely envolved in love. I seen on another comment that this couple is forcing there beliefs on the spectator on account that they seen this story on T.V. If you don't want to watch it, turn it off. There is no force involved. It is free will to watch television as it is to share your story with millions of viewers. I really hope that this couple has a healthy child and I wish them the best. It really shows strength to be able to stand up in front of millions of people and face controvercy. Are you that strong?
John Watts, Scottsburg, IN
How sad that in today's day and age, people are still governed by judgemental pregidise towards their fellow human beings. Yes, it is new to see a man pregnant, but why not? I bet there are many man who wish that they could experience the miracle of carrying a child, and many women who wish their husbands would take on the burden of childbirth. We live at the time, when if you would like to be a man instead of a woman (and vs versa) you can. So WHY NOT? and WHY dear Victoria Mai should a woman be FORCED to give up her reproductive organs if she chose to look and act like a man? Should society force you to give up her reproductive organs becuase you wear pants instead of a skirt and cut your hair short? Where do we draw the line? or would you like to go back 300 years wher women had no rights at all, and were the property of a man to do as he pleased?
Wake up, start acting like a human being! We live in a new world, where boundaries are pushed with new possibilities, and freedoms.
Victoria Sosinski, San Jose, CA
God bless them, and their little girl, too.
Shame on all of you for thinking you're better, smarter, more holy, more moral, more privileged. Shame on all of you who think it's wrong, immoral or that you 'shouldn't have to hear about it.' It's about time that more people are having to face our biases regarding gender and sexuality. "Where will our society end up if this continues to happen?" Perhaps, more tolerant, more open, more loving, more accepting, more mindful of its own business. Perhaps instead of being rigidly defined by ideas of gender, we'll start considering the internal character of individuals, rather than their external qualities. What a blessed world that could be.
The bottom line is this: a child will come into this world with love, care and protection. She has a tough road ahead of her, but the rest of us need to grow up, get a life, and be thankful for all that is.
ML, Denver, CO
About this case I don't really have a solid oppinion. But why should I have one? The world IS changing, and no good can come from fighting against what the future brings. However good or bad, some things are just here to stay! Let's face it and try to make the best of our lives, as human beings, in this common construction. It is up to each and everyone of us to make a real effort to (at least) try to understand what's going on around us and deal with it in an intelligent and human way.
It is true, we are all sellfish! But maybe (if only everybody could make an effort) mankind could stop pointing the finger at others and just go on the best way possible. I read opinions of people recognizing our selfishness, saying things like "what am I going to tell MY children now?", or "what will become of the old truth that only women gave birth?". Did anyone ask what would think the baby girl that will be born of that couple when she grows? In a changing world she will be JUST FINE. Good luck!
Celso Rosa, Coimbra, Portugal
I think that people need to keep their opinions to themselves. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Thomas carrying a child. Just because you think your religion doesn't condone something like this or you think its "creepy" doesn't mean that it is. I say "Congratulations Tom and Nancy" and may you have a lifetime of happiness with your baby girl.
Laura, Chicago, IL
Accepting means to treat others with the respect that you would like to receive. It doesn't mean to advocate or promote others or parts of their lives.
People exist in the world who are transgendered, disabled, ethnically different, religiously different...these are all things that may pull us out of our comfort zone. These people won't stop existing because they offend you. By choosing to not be accepting (regardless of whether you are approving or not) you are condeming others to lives that are more challenging and more difficult than they have to be. What benefit is it to you to make someone else's life harder?
A. K., San Francisco, CA
you know what. i think its great that they're are doing this. i fully support these people and anyone else who wants to do this for themselves. We are who we are and its wrong to judge someone for that. I think they'll have an amazing family and i wish them the best!!
everyone has the right. i'm sure its a free country that we live in. Open your eyes people.
Shauna, Fairchild, WA
i honestly don't have anything against them, but since thomas already decided to become a man, why didn't nancy have the child instead? she is a woman right? it would have been much simpler, right?
erin, sunnyvale, california
I am very supportive of this family. People should not be worried about how it will affect future generations. Children should be brought up to be tolerant of other people's lifestyles and it is becoming more and more common that people are accepted for who they are. When someone is not comfortable in his/her own skin, they should be 100% free to make a change. We have the technology to do whatever we want to our bodies, and people should be able to make their own decisions about what they want to do to theirs. People should learn to not let other people's decisions affect their life. I don't care what you say, this man is not affecting your world in any way. You may have to hear about it for a while, but your family's life will not worsen. Teach children that the world is changing and they shouldn't be afraid of it. This baby will be surrounded with their love. A man having a baby with love is better than the 850,000+ babies annually who are forced to end their lives through abortions
Theresa, Melvindale, MI
This goes for Victoria:
First of all no-one is forcing anything on you. You have the right to turn off the T.V. and radio and not read newspapers or magazines.
Secondly, you have a right to rear your children as you want, with religious and moral beliefs that you find fit, but is not that the world has never been diverse, you just have the means now to find out more about what is going on with other people's lives around the world. And...chances are your children will make their own choices about tolerance, diversity, and the riches that this Melting Pot that is America has to offer. I am sure you don't think exactly as your mother does and vice versa.
And about thinking about yourself...well of course you have the right to do that ..it is only human to pursuit YOUR happiness not anyone elses. At the end of your days (if you believe in God) you will be judged according to what you did or did not do, not for what your neighbor thinks. It is free choice, cont...
Dariela , San Antonio, TX
I think it's funny that so many people are upset and why? Because it has been advertised, technically Thomas is still a woman; any one can get a shot-implants or removal of breasts, move somewhere new and start a new life. Do you shun lesbians that get pregnant, so 2 women have kids & you don't say anything but because an ex woman is having a baby where there will be a woman and a "man" to raise the kid it's bad to you a loving family is all that should matter not the gay,trans, lesbian. If things were so bad then being in a loving family is something numerous kids would want & I think had this attempt failed they might have adopted and what would be said nothing because it would be a man & woman.What if she had a hysterectomy from cancer if Nancy still had her uterus and had been inseminated nothing would be said because it would appear as a woman pregnant with a loving husband. I give them kudos they want kids at least they don't have HIV or crack addictions to pass on to others.
Krystal, Round Rock, TX
Yes it's weird, maybe unnatural or uncomfortable, but if you don't like it, don't watch it or listen to it. Everyone has a right to do what they want and think what they want as long as they aren't hurting anyone. And if you feel too uncomfortable talking to your children then maybe you are the one that shouldn't have them.
Caroline, St. Louis, MO
It is the miracle of life... We are being selfish if we donât allow this couple to be. Is a great discovery and thereâs is nothing wrong with who carries the baby. If there is no risk imposed on the baby then what do we care? It amazing how science works and this is a great example. The importance is not how the baby is going to come to the world but what the baby will become. If the parents are good people than what is the problem? I wish the couple nothing but good wishes. what happened to equality? It is very silly how individuals get riled up over anything... Lets just worry about ourselves.....
Laura Hernandez, Orlando, Florida
In my opinion, I think that you all should just stay out of it. If you don't want to hear about it on t.v. or read it, turn the page, put the magazine or newspaper down, or change the station. If your kid asks about it, tell them you'll explain it to them when they will understand better. I think that you all should let him live his life and let him do whatever he wants and if he wants a family, like you and I do, let it be. How are you and I to judge him? We are all equal in God's eyes so let him be and let him do what he wants. He is a normal human being like you and I that wants a family like you and I who is starting one with his wife only he is pregnant becuase his wife can not have kids so why should we hate him becuase of this? He is just trying to bring new lifes into this world. If you and I can, why can't he? Yes, he is a male, but that doesn't mean he can't have a family too. He needs someone to love him and love him back unconditioanlly(spelling??) just like you and I do.
Melissa , Bonner Springs ,
aweee...... mr. beatie you are an awsome soul.... i hope you and your wife have a wonderful life and a beautiful child..... much love to the 3 of you!!
Jessica, biloxi, ms
I honestly don't know what to think about this. Since I am anti-abortion, I would never advocate killing the baby and it is obvious she will grow up in a loving family, but since this whole affair has become so public, what effects will it have on this child?
Everyone will know she was not born in the normally accepted fashion. With Thomas keeping his "reproductive rights" after his transgender surgery, he presents himself as nothing but selfish.
I understand the couple wanting a child, but wouldn't adoption have been the better alternative? The couple was thinking only of themselves and their desire to have a child and not about the child herself. It is highly likely she will have to endure extreme ridicule while growing up. I hope the family is ready to deal with the psychological aftermath of their decision.
Jennifer Germain, Bisbee, AZ
Where is our common sense? Thomas Beatie isn't a man having a baby; he is a woman by birth. A real man is not equipped for pregnancy; he lacks female reproduction organs. I think we learned this in 5th grade. A real man cannot go back and forth between genders. Either you are or you are not. Hello.
She (Thomas) is only a man by hormone injections and by the power of thinking and a few medical alterations to her body. She kept her reproduction organs when she transformed herself to look more like a guy, which says to me she really is not embracing true manhood, because no "real" man would desire to ovulate, menstruate and then impregnate himself, unless he is a woman in a man's body, who then is actually a lesbian made to look like a man. I think she should be treated like the woman that she is, carrying a baby within her womb-a right given to women not to men from the beginning of creation A womanâs reproductive organs make her a woman, not a man.
Diane, Atascadero, USA, CA
hey im with lonniea i fully support this couple and there child. you know with all these closed minded people i dont how we have advance so far in history and in society. its ridiculous. and to mr. beatie and his wife i hope u have a beautifal baby girl and a wonderful full of happiness and joy.=]
billee, baltimore,
i support this couple. why do people want to take their time and effort to desciminate on someone who is different from them? What about people KILLING one another?!? People can support abortions but not a transgender person choosing life for him and his family??? I wish people would wake up instead of chooseing to live in their own little bubble where they are the only ones that are right!
jamie, St Paul, USA / MN
this is a matter of preference. so what's the point of changing (transplant) when in the long end of the journey you stick on the true nature of human being. We should learn on this example, that sex change is not a wise decision
Bryan, Quezon City, Philippines
I understand that this is different. This is not what we as a race consider "normal." I must say that I wish this couple a healthy baby and a happy life. You see, this couple is happy. The only one's to ruin that would be outsiders. They are obviously used to taking backlash from people and understand that this is the way society is. In my opinion, Thomas was born transgender. By no fault of his own. You see there is no way to change that and the fact that he should have to pick what gender he wants to be is ridiculous. Especially as a child. He has a right to life life no matter what. He is a human being and in the end,he bleeds red just like the rest of us. Problem is that we as a society pass judgement onto others without hesitation. You can judge all you want. Honestly, it does not matter. We really do not need to answer to you. If people are trying to live a normal life with honest intentions, then let them. No one should be forced to change the body they were born with.
Jenn Shaw, Whittier, CA. USA
I believe that we are all spiritual beings first and that souls do not have a gender anyway, so the physical body that we are born into is not the sum of who we are. If two people love each other and are committed to being good parents, that's what makes a good family. Who cares what gender each parent is? Or if there are two parents or just one? Love and commitment to having healthy relationships is what makes a family work. Everything else (gender, race, class) is just the packaging.
Bravo to those who challenge us to see things through the eyes of love instead of fear and hatred! Congratulations to the expectant parents and may they have one heck of a baby shower!
Andy Clark, Phoenix, AZ
Can´t imagine how badly the children and the Girl´s school will mock her and ridicule her for her parents decision. The definitions of man and woman have become blurry. Its hard to find a more confusing situation for the baby girl, when she is explained "Where do Babies come from", and they tell her at home "From daddy", and at school "from women".
Mark Kyroz, EL PASO, TEXAS, US
How can you say 'poor child she is not biologically related to these parents?' If ANY couple had adopted a child or had artificial insemination because of complications, the child would not be biologically related to them, but its okay because they are a straight couple? It doesn't make any difference and the child will accept her parents and love them no matter what, she is not goin to hold a grudge against them because of a transgender father. Children in school may be a different story but if parents taught their children to accept others and not judge it wouldn't be a problem.
April, San Antonio,
I understand the need to be a biological parent but why all the media attention? Why do they need to go on Oprah and tell the world there business. How is this child going to grow up normal when her life is already on the news. I just think the parents are being a little to open. Having a child is a personal thing, not something to go on television about. What's there real motive for all this publicity? God bless that child. I hope all goes well with that pregnancy for that baby's sake.
Larene, Philadelphia, Pa
I think that this subject is not only a very sensitive one, but its also more of a "one-person-against-everyone-else" kind of thing. I think its very close-minded and hurtful to only think of this situation in the "its not socially exceptable" way.The entire country isnt having this baby;Mr. Beatie and his wife are. Its there decision to decide what happens with their child.Would you like it if someone else started telling you that because you used birth control your life isnt socially exceptable?that term in itself is a very fluid one because not everyone has the exact same idea's.Yes, it might be difficult for their child, but dont you think they've considered that already?Let them have a family. So many people today dont even get that chance. At least they will love, support and care for that baby like any other parent. I am very happy for them. I just wish the rest of the world would stop trying to tell them how to run their own lives and how socially unexceptable they are.
Hollie, Kent, Washington
People can be such idiots at times....I don't see where Mr Beatie or his wife is doing any wrong to anyone...all they want is to have a family and be happy like anyone else does...and if living their life the way they are is what makes them happy...who are we to tell them they are wrong. God doesn't and hasn't judge this situation so what makes us think that we can. People can be so cruel and unjust...so quick to talk smack about someone else's life but can't focus on their own. Mr Beatie...I wish you the best of happiness and blessings to you and yours...May God continue to bless you and may you have as many children as you please. I support you all the way. RA RA RA!!!!!!!!
mia, philadelphia, pa
How can you say they'll have emotional issues when they grow up, thats total speculation. Chances are the child will just give the finger to all the haters, god knows I'd give my kid free reign when it comes taking a stand against hate. Take a look at children, now adults who has been teased or oppressed in the past that have overcome obstacles, we see it in literature and in history books. The only people making things difficult for this couple right now are those that can't keep their noses out of other people business, and the parents, peers, and media that formulate a child's behavior by setting invisible barriers on what is acceptable in society and unfortunately setting a poor example that society's rules are not to be questioned.
The best thing I've learned: Truth = ?
Michaela, Mililani, Hawaii
I don't think there's anything wrong with this. As long as he felt it was the right thing for him to do (sex change) and he's happy with it, then that's all that matters.
Congrats on the baby!!
Jen, Williamsport,
I agree with the woman (Victoria Mai) from Illinois. I think everyone is too caught up in their own desires and wants and it's hurting society. If men were meant or capable of having babies this wouldn't be an issue.
It's getting to the point that the things that were once wrong are now right and vise versa, and every special interest group or individual can take their wants/desires, whether immoral or selfish, to court and have it made law . Just as long as you can create doubt in the minds of lawmakers you have a chance.
It might seem very narrow minded or simplistic, but there's a reason God made Male and female. Yes there are medical miracles, birth defects etc. But From the beginning of time until now, and from Europe to Tazmania, men have never been able to give birth.
"Sometimes people are so smart they're stupid"
Tony, San Diego, US/California
I just want to congradulate ya'll! It takes someone really special to risk everything that the media, and public are going to say. The fact that you would do that for your wife and for your relationship means that it is true love. If only all men were willing to do the same for their wives, what difference does it make that, granted you have the "equpiment" for this, but most men wouldn't even consider it if they could. I wish you all the best, i'm sure this isnt the last we have heard of ya'll lol, but know somepeople stand behind your choice 100%. Regardless of how a child is born into this world they are completly innocent and precious. I hope that everything turns out great for you and your family. After all is said and done regardless of those who will try to critizise your choice in the end when you hold your angel in your arms, you will know it was completly worth it. If God wanted everyone to be perfect, we would not have a mind of our own, or FREEDOM which we have. MUCH LOVE!!
Kelly, Statesville, NC
Honestly If they want ti have a child then everyone should stay out of it. They are happy and the baby will be well taken care of. I swear when anything new happens in this world people get all bent outta shape and judgemental. Its like when white people look at black people they see something different. Whatever that is someone please let me know.
Jess, St. Louis, Missouri
some day this girl is going to wonder who her REAL father is, who the SPERM came from. She knows where the egg is from, her MOTHER.
Alyce, anchorage, usa / ak
What is all the fuss about?
It's not a man!
He/She still has all the reproductive organs of a woman, she was born a woman. Surgery may have changed a few things here and there and a polite pandering piece of paper may say "male", but bottom line is: STILL FEMALE.
Taz, Hants, England
so if i make myself look like a dog am i a dog? well according to this i would be. if i take all of my human parts away and substitute them with dog parts would i be a dog? well according to this i would be. hah. well in reality i would be neither, i would be an IT.
Dasha, anchorage, usa / ak
So, the "man" is really a "woman". It's not a story about a man having a baby, but one which reveals the fallacy of 'sex-change' ops.
Colin, Exeter, England
I wish them joy, and a healthy happy baby. For all the haters out there, mind you own business, and stop being so miserable. Oh, and by the way, I spoke to God this morning, and SHE is as pleased as punch.
Jennifer, Ottawa, Canada
My quesion is how will a birth certificate read and what qualifies someone to be male/female legally. The only innocent victim here is the poor baby. She will have to endure unbelievable consequences emotionally as she grows up. If Mr. beattie still has some female parts then isn't he really hermaphroditic and being that his female component is what is pregnant, not that he deciding to become a male legally means he is a man having a baby. I really hope this isn't about money because now they will make a ton of it because of their story and all the media frenzy sure to follow for moths/years to come.
What a sad culture it is when we choose to exploit those people we claim to hold most dear which the Beattie's are doing to there unborn daughter. I can only imagine how many millions will be paid for this baby's first photos.
Let' move on to something really important in this world.
MaggieMae, Atlanta, GA
Woman becomes pregnant.
WOW!
Mimi, London, UK
It's every human's right, to decide, if they and they ALONE want to have a biological child. Yes, there are alot of children that could use a good home, however, if this was any other pregnancy situation like surrogate, or invetro with a family member, most of you wouldn't have a problem. This NOT a religious issue either. All this is, is two, loving, caring people, who want to raise a family, with all the love in the world, they both have to offer. I praise Mr. and Mrs. Beatie, for the decision to have a biological child, which, again, is their RIGHT. They may not have the support of their family, friends, or community, but they do have, MY support, a female born female, married to a man born man, with two sons. Good luck to them and THEIR unborn daughter.Â
Giovanna, Exeter, Pennsylvania
When I first saw this story, I wasn't really sure how to feel. But then I realized, "Hey I'm not the one living it." Out of curiosity I decided to see what other people thought. One of the first things I noticed was many people are confusing the fact that a transgender person is not the same as a homosexual person. Transgender people may "physically" be female, but in every other way be male. (Also vice versa) It's sort of a chemical "disruption" in their bodies during fetal development. Similar to a "birth defect" (Please take no offense). I feel that the fact that Mr. Beatie retained his female organs was almost predestined. I'm sure there are many men out there who love their wives enough that, when they see her pain at not being able to conceive, would gladly take her place if able to. They're just not able to. I'm a Christian and as such have had kind of a difficult time swallowing this story, however, only God knows someones heart and only he has the right to judge.
Krista, Independence,
Good for you two! You have my best wishes in the healthy delivery of your little girl!
SD, Fort Worth, TX
I believe it's a wonderful thing, Mr. Beatie giving birth to his daughter.My only fear would be that something being wrong with the child.Everyone likes to voice their opinion but it's thier decision and I support it.I wish my husband could have carried my two.
Angela Washington, Avondale, la.
I think it's very cute. Just because he's a transgender doesn't mean he doesn't have the right to get pregnant also.
He just wants a family, with his wife. Let it happen. Its not hurting you or anyone else. Congrats :]]
Sarah, San Antonio, texas
Well, this is clearly a complex situation, but some things remain constant: they are married, love each other, and want a baby. If she can't do it, I think that the couple is fortunate he can. I'm a woman, and I kind of wondered what it would be like if females weren't the ones who gave birth. I think this is the closet scenario.
Good luck to them!
Mallory, Luckey,
This story isn't incredible or shocking at all. A woman is pregnant plain and simple. It happens every day. Thomas Beatie may have male parts but when push comes to shove, Thomas Beatie is a woman. So I do not see the need to push this as something amazing.
John, Baltimore,
If you have a uterus are you really a man?
sharon, naperville, IL, usa
As long as they are happy and healthy, nothing else should matter.
S. Richardson, Orlando, FL
Victoria, you only seem to care about your beliefs. This man is a human being with feelings. He is not forcing his beliefs on you, he is doing what he feels is right. He did not force you to read this article or watch Oprah, you chose to and you can choose to turn a blind eye and raise your children to be close-minded to other people and their differences and you will be doing them a great disservice.
Erica Gordon, Palmer Twp, PA
Calm down......it's a woman having a baby while looking like a man. Men have nipples that don't really appear to have any viable function and male /female role assignments are in, large percent, culturally dictated. Our biological differences serve challenges that exist between the procreative process and physical survival challenges to the organism. Essentially we are adrogeneous beings.
MenNefer, Hawaii,
It will be interesting to see who the child gravitates to more. Usually, the birth parent (the mother) has a deeper attachment to the offspring.
imamale, Atlanta, USA
God has everything to do with everything because HE created human kind. He didn't create you to change sexes, he didn't create man to have children, he had a purpose.
Mrs. Moore, Texas, U.S.A
I hope the pregnancy goes well. Since this is a first I hope there are not unforeseen health problems. And Thomas is a very caring husband to get pregnant for his wife.
Jane, Town, USA
This isn't new. My best friend is transgendered and gave birth to a son 2 yrs ago...
Mindy, Rocklin,
This couple has done nothing wrong. I agree with what Mr. Beatie says, "Wanting to have a biological child is neither a male nor female desire but a human desire."
This is different yes, but why do we limit humanity's potential with prejudice? Anyway, Beatie Family: Congratulations! God Bless!
Rebecca, Los Angeles, Ca
There's nothing more wonderful than being able to bring a child into this world; and I'm glad they get their chance. I wish them all the best.
Crystal, Winter Springs, FL
I am not offended by this at all. I think the child will be brought up thinking this is quite normal and will understand her situation better then any of us could.
She may however feel different when other kids tease her about her dad giving birth to her. But come now, this male looks like a male.
All I wonder i how will this baby be born via vaginal delivery or cesarean?
lindsay, San Bernardino, Ca
Sex change surgery should not be allowed!
Has anybody thought about how is this child going to survive in school?
Bullying???
C'mon there will be a poor child born into a relationship that is unnatural.
And some of you say that it is good, get real and stand up for your beliefs.
IT SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED
Trev, Nottingham, UK
I would like to know why it's such a big deal. If a girl wants to be a dude and then gets himself pregnant, that's his problem. And women are always talking about how men never experiance pregnancy and all the crap that comes along with it, and this is the closest that they will come. This will just have to be something people have to get used to, like people being gay.
Zeke, East Stoudsburg,
It is often said that you cant love someone else until you learn how to love yourself and its true because unless or until you yourself dont love yourself how do u expect another person to come in your life and love you. This man/woman didnt love herself thats why she converted her sex so how are we expecting that the child who is going to come in this world is going to be loved by him/her. In my opinion they will never be able to give their child a normal upbringing because I believe both mom and dad have a role to play and there are roles which mom and mom cannot play.
Ahsan, london, uk
-IS ANYONE ELSE CONFUSED AS TO WHY THIS IS A BIG DEAL - THEY SAY LEGALLY HE IS A MAN CAUSE HE/SHE HAS HAD "sex reassignment". HOWEVER I WOULD NOT CONSIDER HIM A MAN IF HE HAS ALL THE PARTS OF A WOMAN - HE IS PRETTY MUCH JUST A FLAT CHESTED HAIRY WOMAN - IF "HE" FEELS LIKE MAN AND CONSIDERS HIMSELF A MAN THEN HE SHOULD BECOME A MAN - THATS HIS CHOICE - BUT DONT TRY TO BECOME A NEWS STORY
ABBY , AP, NY
Men should'nt be having children period! Since the beginning of time women have been having children. What sense does it make for a man to have a child?? And if you did decide to give up being a women, why did you keep your female organs? It is not called being close minded it is called "normal". I don't think it's right. How is he and his "wife" ever going to explain that to their daughter? Oh Lord, what is this world coming to?
Gina P, Naples, USA/FL
oh god iam sick, my normal kids will have something to pick on and harass thankful of all the freaks,im parting now.
c. miller, burkesville, ky.
i honesty think it neat. does anyone know if their are pictures of the baby.
aubrey, azle, tx
i support them as well.. and i can't believe that people are so closed minded [ha whatever] it doesn't matter if this was on TV or all over the news for your kids to watch. It's up to your kids to choose what they want to be... everything in this world is changing everyday and you cannot stop it. Be a role model that you want to be for your child and they will learn from you. jesus.... whatever.
ms truong, richmond, va
Victoria, I think you are too close-minded and protective. They have the freedom to post this story and you have the freedom to ignore it. I don't see how this story is upsetting.
adam, morgantown, wv
I fully support them as well. I feel like it is noboby's business what anyone chooses to do in their own life. No one has the right to decide what someone should or should not do with their life. Worry about yourself and yourself only, and stop trying to force your beliefs upon others.
Amy, Hanoverpark,
I guess if God wanted men to have babies, he would have created them with a uterus. He didn't....imagine that! This person is a woman if she is able to have children. Period.
Shelley, Birmingham,
transgendered or not surgery or not its a woman giving birth not a man. just because you alter your appearance doesnt change what you are in side. just because you paint an apple purple doesnt make you a grape. this is just a woman with male features giving birth. nothing more.
Rufus, erie, pa
I support the family as well. There is no reason why anyone should be able to determine what someone does with his/her body. In addition, people need to put themselves in this couples shoes...what if they were in this situation. There are so many childern that are being beaten, so many people starving, and so many families losing family members to war, and this is what people are focusing their attention on. The world is changing every day, and although no one likes change, people who cannot be supportive will soon be left behind.
Alicia, FFX, VA
Did you know that the male seahorse carries the babies? just some food for thought. Who are we to judge, if the baby is born with 2 loving parents, thats more than most of us had.
rose, lacey, washington
ONLY IN THIS COUNTRY. If this man/women/it was in another country he would have not lasted this long. Perhaps western Europe and a few other countries. As for me i live an normal life; i am straight have a wife but my life is what i make it. To other people my life may not be normal. But this is ridiculous. If these two individuals want to do what they want so be it. What is the reasoning behind maybe there own family a circus side show. I have read comments of support as well as disgust. I for one think these individuals should have chosen what they wanted and done it. Parading themselves in front of the media, is this a cry for attention; look at the picture on this page. Give me a break; what is this liberal country coming to.... I for one have nothing against gays or there rights to have a family however they choose. My sisters father in law is a gay man and i never had a problem with him or his partner. However i wish these people go to a strict third world country..
HAVE SOME SHAME, BIGCITY, CALIFORNIA
I am happy that he made this choice not only for himself but his wife. It's also upsetting that he could not find a doctor that would help him in their journey of becoming a family. I don't know any man that would take the responsibilty of carrying a baby for the nine months like a woman would. I wish nothing but the best for the future of their little girl. I hope that everything goes okay with the delivery. Good Luck!
Brittany , Collinsville, United States Illinois
Seriously? People believe that this couple is forcing their beliefs on others?? They have chosen to have a child. They have chosen to have a family. That has nothing to do with anyone else in the world but them. They have not asked that people support them or agree with them. They have asked that they receive the same human rights as anyone else, including proper medical care. It sounds to me like this is a very lucky child. A child who is loved and wanted and who will grow up with two parents. That is a lot more than many children get in this world.
Rebecca, Azusa, California
Alot of people are bringing god into this and I agree it has nothing to do with god, but we as humans that do have children may not feel like we have to explain this very ODD situation. I have a 10 year old and I probably would not care if I didn't have a child to bring up and to have to explain things to, but I do! I also agree that if you were born a woman and then changed your sex that was a decision you made. I undestand that his wife cannot have children but there are a lot of children out there that need loving homes, maybe that should have been an option. I beleive that people can do what they want and should not have to answer to anyone - but in a situation where they are bringing it public and not keeping this a private home matter - then I think people can have whatever opinion they want to have regarding the situation. If a child was in a bad home people would say how bad the parents are, etc. but because this is a man having a child - that's not bad????
Maria , Worcester,
I applaud them for staying with their beliefs and going forward to try and have a family. People in this day and age need to conform and worry about the future of their own lives and children. The birth of this child will be a blessing to this couple. It's no one's business how they choose to live their lives. As long as they are good parents and good to each other that is the only concern that should be had. Good luck to both of you! That will be a lucky child!
Ann Osborne, Connecticut
Ann, Hebron, CT
it really doesnt bother me, i mean he was born a women, so i dont think it is wrong for him to do that.. i bet a lot of men would do that for thier wifes if they could, so i just hope they baby as well as the father do well. and GOD will be on there side.
SIDNEY, FORESTVILLE, MARYLAND
This is WRONG and I wish everyone would quit calling this thing a man because it has a uterous and is and allway will be a woman so quit exploiting the fact that all it did was have its boobs cut off and take hormones to grow hair.
Matt, bluffton,
I have a question that probably sounds really stupid but....here goes---how was he inseminated? Does he have a vagina or a penis? Sorry, I am just so out of the loop about things like this! But, I am open minded as well. If the baby is healthy and wrapped in love for the rest of her life, who's to say its wrong?
Lisa, northridge, ca
I think that this is totally disgusting. I'm sorry, but you gave up your rights to be a "woman" when you decided you wanted to "turn" into a man. I don't agree with that at all. Giving birth is a womans right, not a "man's".
But seriously, when will society decide to speak up? Is the humilliation people will put themselfs through ever end, or is the media more important to these people? Whatever. Thats pretty stupid.
I don't agree with it, but since God allowed it, I must congradulate you.
Good Luck and God Bless You.
Samantha Brown, Cabool,
Who are you to judge! Selfish? Look at everything else in the world around you that is for personal enrichment that has mostly claimed lives or livelihood and mass produced for you to gorge on. He's not killing anyone. He's pro-life, pro-personal truth, and pro-happiness. I challenge you to take off the veil over your head.
L Burgoyne, San Mateo, California
The story is a little weird however, I am happy for the couple, the baby will be raised with 2 loving parents, everyone has the right to bear children. Its no different than a child being adopted from a homosexual couple. It is a miracle to bring a child into the world, we should repect them as people and as future parents.
Rea, Henderson, USA
I find this to be a fascinating story. Although I agree with those people who have commented to say that it is not a true news story, and more of an interest piece, I think that it is important to show the world just how far human limits can be pushed. I have absolutely no moral problem with Mr Beatie's choices, whether they be gender-reassignment surgery, or the choice to carry a child, and entirely agree with him in saying that the desire to have a child is not a male or female choice, but a human choice. What I find really fascinating is that this has not happened in huge numbers already. I frankly had assumed that a transgender man would not be able to become pregnant, as I had never heard of it happening before, and the discovery that hormone therapy and the surgery itself does not destroy that ability amazes me. My one concern is how the changes to Mr Beatie's body will biologically affect the child. If it were to affect her adversely, then I might have an issue with it.
Katie Edge, London, England
I don't think it is anyone else's business what this couple has chosen to do. Unless that are abusing the child- we have no say in it.
Let them live their lives and try to be a bit more loving toward others.
Mary Ellen, BlueBell, PA
I feel sick!! Really, just my opinion. I really feel like throwing up after reading this!!
John, Encino, CA,
Wonder if he takes a maternity or paternity leave, for how long?
Jean, London, UK
I think this is a great lesson in acceptance. For parents who are worried about explaining to their children how a man can get pregnant, it's a wonderful opportunity for children to learn that there are all sorts of diffrerent people with all sorts of different paths, obstacles, and burdens. God bless those who are *not* sexually confused, who fit into the "socially acceptable norm", but the reality is, if we want a peaceful, loving, creative world, we need to support each other, not condem each other. Yes, I admit, as a woman, it is quite jarring to see a man pregnant. But rather then judge, which creates only more negativity, I'm choosing to be open and curious. In my opinion we have two choices with situations like this -- we can react negatively, and close down or we can learn to be more accepting. And finally, anyone who wants to bring life into this world, is bringing us a wonderful gift.
N Dylan, Santa Monica, CA
To the Beatie couple, that is awesome. You are blessed to have such open minds and hearts, and a baby. Best of luck with the baby. You are one of the few ushering our society into a more evolved awareness. To the ones who don't get it, Watch "For the Bible Tells Me So". You are no one to judge.
Jack, Los Angeles, CA
I am confused...does he have a penis or a vagina? How can he be inseminated if he has a penis?
Mary, Ocala, FL
He can take all of the hormones he wishes, but unless the doctors can change the chromosomal assignment he received at conception, he is XX--female, and not male. A male is not giving birth. A hormonally and surgically altered female is giving birth; hopefully to a child that will be unaffected by the media circus that will follow her, not to mention the hormones her mother ingested in trying to appear male.
Josie, Boston, MA
I honestly dont see anything wrong with it. As to the close minded people, get over it! No one is forcing beliefs on you, no one is forcing anything on you. To Victoria from IL, your a joke. Talking about forcing beliefs , its not like their knocking on your door and FORCING you to do anything. If they are forcing their beliefs on you, then arent you doing the same?
nicole, Columbus, oh
I think this is great . This world has become so self absorbed in right and wrong and how people should act or look it's great having people who do things outside the box. Good for them. Who cares what other people think. CONGRATS
STEPHANIE, SYRACUSE,NY,
Yikes. Glad he isn't my daddy/mama.
Gary, Austin, TX
I also fully support the Beattie family! I am in amazement of the situation, but really, it's not that strange, it's a beautiful thing and I wish them the best of luck!!!
Carmen, E.L., CT
Victoria... I think that you are the one being selfish in this world... He should have every right to do what makes him and his wife happy... and he is doing so. I am very happy for him and wish him, his wife, and his soon to be daughter all the best.
Cheryl, Wichita, KS
All I can say is we all should just mind our own business. If that is what they chose to do, then who in the world are we to judge them?
Nic, GA
Nic, Roswell, GA
I think this whole situation is disgusting. It's all for publicity and money. He is NOT a man. He may look like a man, but that's it. There is nothing male about him but his appearance. He has all the plumbing of a woman.
Sering, Houston, Texas
Lucky Baby! Their baby girl will have loving and caring parents, something that most of the "normal kids" don't have. Open your eyes Americans! And hearts too.
e, los angeles, california
I think that this is amazing! I have always believed that you should follow your hearts and Mr. Beatie and his wife have provided excellent examples for two reasons. It takes a lot of guts to be transgender and to love someone openly that is transgender just because of the society that we live in today. And on top of that to decide to carry a baby for your wife. It is just amazing. This world needs more people like this family.
Tiffaney Day, Clarksville, Tennessee
I must say I'm troubled by the pose the person takes in the photo. Very exhibitionist and posturing. It makes me feel that the whole exercise is similarly motivated. A lesson in politicise.
Barbara, Bath, Avon
i don't see this as an issue of whether or not gay people should be parents. my concern is for the physical health of the baby and the mental health of this little girl as she grows up. i'm sure her parents have thought some about this, but isn't it indulgent on their part to "have to have" a biological child, knowing that this daughter will be made a mascot for the way she was conceived and carried, and the outing of her father to the whole community in which she will live? there are so many babies that need loving homes. if this couple wanted a family, they could have tried adoption, and kept in tact the social, community, and family relationships they'd been enjoying their whole marriage, and shared that "village" with their child. i'm not saying to live in secrecy about being transgendered, but evidently they did not feel the need to share that with those in their circle before. this expense of this pregnancy is the child's, and she didn't ask for it.
abbi, greenville, sc
Everyone is commenting about judging the two main players involved - but that's what you do when you see a story this unusual, you comment. Just because you're making a comment in their favour doesn't mean you're not judging, you are judging too! They are now public property like any other public figure, celebrity, or 15 minutes of famer so they'll just have to deal with the yay and nay of public opinion. I think it's wrong, like alot of others here, but alot of others also think there's no issue. All I have to say is that in the end, we'll know who won the toss - 'right' is never a grey area.
Nikki, Caribbean,
I can't believe some of you, especially the doctors who turned down Thomas. Who cares if he is trangender, I mean, he/she is not much different from any other human being, just a female who changed to a male. I think some of you don't want these sort of changes to happen, but, lemme tell you something ---- THEY ARE GOING TO HAPPEN. If you think this guy is actually faking, then why become interested? Why take this small situation and turn it into a bigger one, when gas prices are high and rocketing and global warming his hitting? I don't think any of you have a sense of clue, nor a sense of heart. If I was his family, I would support him all the way, no matter how weird it was!
Haley T., Panama City, FL
I completely agree with Monie, San Jose. God bless Thomas Beatie, his wife, and his baby girl. I wish them well. A baby is the most beautiful gift anyone can receive in this world.
Patricia Guerra, Dallas, Texas
A pregnant man?
The world is going crazy!
How can anyone accept this?!
What was he/she thinking?!
For God's Sake!
Anna, Setubal, Portugal
I know there are millions of people everyday that have children and do not take care of them. Hell, most of them women dont even want to be pregnant. i know woman who only have their kids to either get child support and never work OR live off of the government. IF Nancy and Tom want to have a baby, want to take care and love this child like all children deserve, who are any of us to judge. AND yes Monie, GOD is the only one who judges people.
May they have a life of happiness that most of us only dream of!
Casey, MC, Louisiana
What is going on with this world?
serge, Atl, GA,
I agree with you Ireanna. God bless you. Thank you for voicing the Word of Truth.
Massiel, Miami, FL
<i>We all can agree it's not normal and out of the ordinary, sowhy should this girl have to bbe born into this situation<i>
oh, but my friend, we CANNOT all agree that it's not normal. It is completely normal for MY friends to have all different kinds of bodies, and genders, and relationships. and the children we are raising and are happy to be free to choose their destinies for themselves, too.
50 years ago most people would have agreed that it was abnormal and unhealthy for boys to play with dolls, or girls to play with trucks.
Norms change.
and many people I know are thrilled that Thomas Beatie and his partner are brave enough to put themselves in the public eye. slowly, we're changing the norms of what men and women can and cannot do. and the result is more freedom, and less prejudiced judgement, for all.
alison, philadelphia PA, USA
Those of you who are worried about the child--get a clue! Everyone gets teased about SOMETHING in school and it is most vital to have loving family relationships--regardless of the gender or appearance of one's parents. Think about how many babies suffer from lack of love and good parenting skills in traditional heterosexual male-female parents. No one who has paid any attention to our world can make the claim that male-female partnerships are inherently more stable and healthy--because they are not. How battered and neglected children are born to the typical male-female couple every day? It's how healthy, conscious and loving people are which makes them good parents, not their gender identity or sexual orientation! What is really a "sin" or "morally decrepit" is to use the name of God to try to justify fear and hate-based judgments. That is so old. Open your hearts and your eyes and start seeing below the surface of things to what really matters in life.
Andy Clark, Phoenix, AZ
I think this is a very different experience but I am fully supportive of this couple. Why should they be denied their right to have a child just because the mother can't? Granted, they could adopt but it is human nature to want to have a baby with your own characteristics. I completely understand this. If there was any way for me to have a child without adopting or so forth because I wasn't able to carry my own, I would jump on the opportunity. The people who say they are open-minded are obviously not and are trapped in their own shell. People are so afraid of change and something that they are not used to, yet society has changed immensely over the past fifty years. And we have adapted. This is just something people are going to have to take in and accept. Like I said, it is definately out of the ordinary, and hard to grasp at first but it is an opportunity for this couple to make the family they have always dreamed of and people just be supportive of their dreams.
Millie, Chicago, Illinois
Yes, perhaps this is going against some kind of "norm" we set for ourselves as a society-- that women should stay women and men should stay men, that a pregnant woman is beautiful and a pregnant man is monstrous, that men and women should marry but not men and men or women and women, that we tend to look twice when we see an asian woman with a black husband or a white woman with an Iranian boyfriend or a latino man with a philipino partner. Yes, even these labels are uncomfortable to talk about or say, but we as a society did come up with them.
Let's not deny it's uncomfortable, but let's be honest and admit it's not uncomfortable because this couple is doing something wrong-- it's uncomfortable because we as a society label and label, establish normal = right and abnormal = wrong, and then when intentions are pure but those labels creep into the picture, the picture becomes grotesque and suddenly, we're not dealing with human beings anymore. We're dealing with an "other."
Jessica, Oakland, CA
Like always this world is full of negativity when this is suppose to be a free country. Anyway I myself think that the choice he made is a wonderful one and for people who are worried about what others are going to say and what others are going to see climb out of your bubble and take a look around because this is the real world and things like this are possible. People all day long talk about how horrilbe our country is, well negativity and jugemental people is what makes this world so horrible. Here is a little quote I live by I AM WHO I AM YOU CAN EITHER EXCEPT ME OR NOT EITHER WAY IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE THERE IS ONLY ONE PERSON IN THIS WORLD WHO CAN JUDGE ME AND GUESS WHAT IT'S NOT YOU. I have lived around negativity all my life because my brother is Gay so over the years I have learned to over look STUPID people who have no idea of what the real world is. To Mr. Beatie and his Wonderful wife I congradulate you and wish you this best with ur baby I respect you in so many ways.
Maria Hough, Humble, Texas
To Victoria, in response: "No one cares about anyone but themselves and that is what is wrong." To me I just hear that all you care about is yourself, "you dont want to hear it," "you dont want your children asking questions about it," "you dont want their beliefs forced on you," You think someone should have forced him to remove his reproductive organs? He made a decision to live his life one way, hopefully free from criticism from people who are to stuck up and closeminded and cant fathom the fact that some people are diff and want to stay that way. Most people dont want to end up like a stepford wive whose husband is most likely sleeping with the babysitter. Sounds like to me all you want is for people to conform to a society that you believe is right and that is free from anything that is slighty out of the ordinary. I want to ask one question "what would you do if your son grew up and one day decided that he just is not happy dating women?" Would he tell you or keep it hidden.
Alaina, Mass,
I do not see why their taking such a decision should be made public knowledge like this - all this publicity is not what the world's children need right now, or ever for that matter! Why didn't they just keep it to themselves? Like Victoria (above), how do you explain to young children that a 'real' man cannot get pregnant but Mr. Thomas did? It's enough trouble trying to explain gay marriages, especially in a region like Africa, wherre the dominant religions are Christianity and Islam, now add this - it is not a good news story!
If you change gender and marry, and then want to get pregnant - KEEP IT TO YOURSELF!!!! STOP FORCING YOUR BELIEFS OR SELFISH WANTS ON THE REST OF THE WORLD! YOU ARE NOT THE FIRST ONE (acording to the article), and we didn't hear about the others, so keep it to yourself!
Adedayo Makinde, Lagos, Nigeria
I thought it was an April fool!
sophie, london,
I never knew things could be so diverse, and I'm not talking about Thomas. One person who calls himself a "Christian" says its OK, God loves everyone and He doesn't want us to judge.Others says that Gods against it. Personally, I have to agree with the latter. I love the Lord, and because I love the Lord, I love everyone he made. What Thomas did was morally and religiously wrong, but is slamming him going to change him? Many want to make society a better place, but you can't go around yelling at people telling them how sinful they are and that God hates them. What they need to hear is God loves everyone, but he hates what their doing. Everyone needs His forgiveness, love, and guidance, but smacking them in the face is not the way to tell them that. For those who say their "christian", ask yourself if your words are really honoring God. His will is in the Bible, and he states how he feels about homosexual relationships. It seperates us from a relationship with Him.
Ireanna, CC,
All this does is prove that gender reassignment doesn't change how you were bord. If you were born with an XY chromosome pattern you are male, if XX then female no one asksed if you liked it or not this is just fact. With an exception of mutations (trisome X, etc.) this is a hard reality many need to except. This is not a man having a baby this is a women having a child. Just b/c legally she has been proclaimed a man doesn't mean she is. When she dies and her remains are found she will be identified a woman b/c of bone structure and DNA. I do not understand all the hype.
Dave, Fort Worth,
This is so disgusting. I'm just thinking baout the poor child, think of all the problems that kid will have. THIS IS SICK
Nadia, Syracuse,
I think this story is an awsome one, I love how he made the decision with his wife to have a baby with her and for her. I know people (myself included) who tried so hard to have at least one baby and wished that there was still one more option for them and thanx to this womens loving husband they found away to have that chance. The love these two have for eachother is very possibly unmatched by anyother. All I can say is congrats on your pregnancy and I hope she is a healthy baby, your going to love every second of your baby.
Heather Hunter-Martinez, Corpus Christi, Texas
"God Given Right ?" I keep hearing that.God created the woman to bear children(that's God Given!)If it was normal for a man to be pregnant, it wouldn't be on the news!This is man taking things into his own hands. Who gave him that right? I also keep hearing "who are you to say this is wrong?" Well, who are you to say it isn't?!Bottom line, we have no standard nor consideration of others nor regard for God in our society because we refuse to be subject to a higher being, partly because everyone is convinced that we are the higher being. we're created, not creator. Just as everything else, this too is demanding acceptance. And I won't accept it. We speak too often of love and loving families, and yet hate and reject the only ONE who defines love. what's the basis of your definition of love and why is it right? What a slap in the face to say, "God, you're wrong. I'm gonna do it my way!" But He loves us and wants us, that's why Jesus came, God's ONLY son, to save us. I must have absolutes.
Brandie, Spokane, Washington
It seems to me that if his body is still able to product eggs and he can still have a period, then he just a woman who looks and lives like a man. This is a selfish thing to this couple has no regard for the child and what she will face later on in life. I guess this is one way to get around the anti gay laws about marriage and healthcare issues.
Diana, Largo, MD
Who cares who everyone thinks... Yes, it is bizarre but its between Thomas Beatie and his wife. Hopefully they will have a healthy baby girl. That is all that matters!
HRM, Melrose, MA
I feel that this is a wonderful experience for this couple. I think the little girl will grow up to be a wonderful person. Who cares if dad was the one who gave birth to her. From what I can see from the other two children Mr. Beatie is a wonderful person. I think people just need to realize that he was once a woman and if they want a baby, so be it. To bring another person into the world is a great joy. So I applaud the Beatie's. If people worried about their self as much as they do about others, then maybe this little girl would have a normal life. But unfortunately people like to find fault in others so there life seems better. I wish you the best Mr. and Mrs. Beatie. There are people out here on your side.
Trina, Irasburg, Vermont
I belive the right of an individual to make their own judgment in how to live their lifes we are not here to judge the others because we in our own lives we make desiciones that other people may think are wrong to society. But really we cain't say this si a miracle because it is not he has genders of a woman because he was once a woman to change your outside looks dosen't mean you have changed because their are things that will never change like your inside organs if you were a woman your body will work like if you are a woman. But all I have to say is congrats on your desicion and speaking out to the world about your desicion. I really wished that real man realy could get pregnant so they could now what we go through and suffer.
maria, waco, texas
I really dont know what to think about this situation me being a pregnant woman myself i always thought of giving birth as being an award for women going through our sometimes rough menstrual cycle but for someone who voluntarily gave up being a woman makes me feel like im going through the cramps for nothing while men can walk around cramp free and still enjoy the feeling of bringing a life into the world! I dont think there is nothing wrong with a sex change but i feel like make up ur mind be a man or a woman. Now dont get me wrong there is nothing wrong with wanting a family but there are other options like adopting but hey now that the deed is done i just hope the child isnt effected by the situation.
keisha g, spartanburg, sc,
It is very confusing and I'm sad for what confusion this will bring upon this child when she grows. However, I cannot say that by showing this story on Oprah someone is "forcing" their beliefs on me. That's ridiculous, nobody forces beleifs on anyone. We make up our own beliefs so if this is happening and other people are interested to know about it then Oprah has all the rights (and even duty) to show it to the rest of us. I find it interesting even though I don't agree with it.
Diana, POMPANO BEACH, FL
The only one who can CREATE is GOD!!!! and GOD blessed this man with a child...which is a beautiful gift that ONLY GOD can give. So, God Bless them and their new child. There are alot of worse things in the world we have to explain to children...and a blessing from God (in any way fasion or form) is nothing that a child shouldnt know about. People, if your so worried about what to say to your children...tell them God loves and blesses all people...HIS love is unconditional and He blesses as he see's fit. We are not to judge...only God can do that. Tell & teach your children that all people are not the same and that its ok to be different. I think its selfish that some people belive one has to be, act, look, or believe a certain way just to be accepted in this society. I support this man 100%
Monie, San Jose,
Interesting how all of you can have your own rude, almost malicious, comments on this couple. The man was once a women, there is nothing wrong with him going back on his biological gender to let his wife, for whom he loves, be able to care and nuture a child that they can call their own. You may say adoption, and yes I agree, but if this person wants to experience a child then who are we to say he can't. If there is a God, I'm sure he would not have given this human being the tools to produce a child if he did not want them to be able to go through the process and birth a new soul to this world.
The man is not technically a male, he still has female organs and estrogen in his body, so therefor I do not see the harm in him bearing a child.
Cheyenne H., Lawrenceburg, IN
As weird as this situation is, I think that he has every right to give birth. He gave up his female rights for most of his life, and the willingness to take them back, even for just 9 months is showing how dedicated he is to his wife, and unborn child. I think that this is showing how caring people can be, to go back to a body they once rejected for the love of their life.
Liz, Lincoln, NE
I say to this couple good luck.! I don't think there is anything weird about it. The fact of the matter is that Mr. Beatie was a female. It is not a person who was born a male that is pregnant. This is a person who decided they wanted to be the opposite gender but, have the guarantee that a biological child will exist in this persons life. I think that every woman has had that fear that they could not have children if they wanted to at any point in their life. No matter what their life may have brung before that point.The entire story is being hypened by the media. Yes, there may be things that many parents will have to explain to their children in life but, it isn't any worse than having to explain sex to a nine year old girl in this day and age. To all those closed - minded people in this world, good luck with the rest of the things this world will bring attention to! To Nancy and Thomas, good luck and may your baby be as healthy and bright minded as it's parents.
Alita Miranda, Bangor, Pennsylvania USA
I don't want to say that I don't find this a little odd, but I am so happy for them. I am so proud of them. They knocked down social boundaries to find happiness.
They wanted to have a child, his wife couldn't do it, so he stepped up. There's nothing wrong with that.
Hey, my BF's not transgender, but if the technology is out there for men to have babies when we decide to have a child, I would love to see him step up and offer to do it (just don't tell him this now).
Mimi, Kingston, Canada
I think it's fantastic that he was able to carry their child. I have been a surrogate mother 3 times and I know the pain couples face when they want a family so much but can't have one the conventional way. Maybe to some of you it's weird to see a man pregnant. I have been accused by many of giving away, or even selling, my own babies. The babies I carried were not even biologically mine, but that didn't prevent the closed-minded people out there from throwing out the accusations just the same. I say congratulations to both of you on your impending arrival and I'm really very sorry for the loss of the other three babies. I know that pain as well. Good luck to you both.
Kristi, San Antonio, Texas
Well i think that is preet nice that he stood up to have a baby for him and his wife, so what if people made fun of yall just be yall self if people dont like it o well cause they aint the one who got to deal with it. So all im say is to do yall and dont let nobody make yall fill down
Love Ya!!!!!!!
Tina McIntyre, Hayti MO, Pemiscot
It never ceases to amaze me just how jaded we continue to be not to mention judgemental. Why can't beings just be happy for someone who has something wonderful happen to them? There is always those who are so quick to point the finger and scream shame on you! Those are the people that instill in our children to be judgemental via their own tainted beliefs. Children are innocent and until beings fill their heads with hate, it is then that we breed what we are, HATERS! You are never "forced" to watch or listen to anything you dont want to hear, so change the channel or t.v. station and just keep existing in your black and white world, we don't need people like that to bring down our Happiness and Joys in this life. I support this couple and pray this baby arrives healthy into what seems a LOVING and STABLE home full of LOVE! For HATERS out there, I will continue to pray for you ALWAYS. GOD BLESS YOU!! We are created out of the LOVE of GOD as you were. God Bless the people. Equals
Tea Sotelo, Tampa, Florida
I dont disagree with his choice in gender reassignment, nor do I disagree with thier choice to have a baby. But I do think they should have gone about it deferently and adopted. If he didnt want to be a woman to begin with and chose to become a "Man" then I dont think it is right to take advantage of the fact that he was once a woman, when thats what he chose not to be.
Ann, Riverside, CA
I think that this was all planed when she got her reassingment.the fact that somebody would go through all this trouble just to have five min. of fame is down right wrong.Has nobody even thought about this little girl?society has come along way over the years but come on this child is going to be picked on for her whole life.
Chuck Baverstock, Alliston, Ont. Canada
I fully believe it is the right of an individual to make the best judgement for themselves about their future. It is not my job to tell them how to live their life. Who am I to say such things. That would be truly ignorant. I feel that if this is what they want, then let them. Besides it doesn't hurt me, nor does it infringe anything onto me either. I am not affected in the least because I am not as weak of heart as some who let others beliefs affend them. I believe in what I believe, and you believe what you believe. I have faith in my beliefs, so why would someone else's be a threat to mine? I'm a 22 year old male, and for me to see the obvious truth more than some out there is just sad.
Asked for Mr. Thomas Beatie, congrats on the pregnancy, hope it goes as planned and is a healthy birth.
Joshua Smith, Citrus County, Florida
talking about selfish i was reading thru these and half of them are women sayin only i can have a kid blah blah blah what happen to thins being a free country i am a woman and been pregnant 6 time i wish my husband could of helped the way he is helping his wife that is not at all selfish and you know maybe he needed to get the surgery to be a man for more than one reason butu geuss what those are his organs not anyones else and they cannot force you to give them up no matter what . i am very happy for them and hopefully i will get to see the baby girl good luck mr. and mrs. Beatie good luck and enjoy
annan , rushville, u.s.a /indiana
I originally thought I would to be creeped out by this story, but I found myself being very accepting of it. I don't think they flaunted their story by any means, they just wanted to tell it. People need to start learning to except eachother as they are. I don't necessarily agree, but I'm not going be rude and critical about it. If other people have a problem with it and see them out in public, then don't look. They're not out hurting anyone. They are obviously two happy people in love and starting a family.
Emmy, Milwaukee, WI
Ha victoria~
how can you be ok with a sex change, but not the pregnancy. if your ok with people manipulating what "god" or nature gave them , why the hell cant they pick and choose what they want to give away.
with all honesty, a doctor that manipulated him, that person was a female with every right to reproduce, and it was a person who changed that, and no matter what law we lay down as people we do not overide nature, or "god" or whatever force you choose. that man will always be a woman
is it the breasts or the uturis that makes us women?
Kelly, Bremerton, washington
Congrads to the happy couple!!!!!! I dont know why people in this world always have to bring down everyone that is happy! He is doing this for his wife who can not have child they want a family just like 90% of the world do its not weird its human nature. I wish them the best of luck in the world and hope they have a healthy baby.
Thea, crossville, tenn.
I think people are very selfish in this country when it comes to "what is socially accepted" WHO CARES who wants to have children or not. I am a straight woman that has many GAY friends and i think that this country is very selfish when it comes to the whole marriage and having a baby. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS! This person obviously decided to have a baby with someone that they loved and to be accepted by society had a sex change and then got married. maybe or maybe not. who knows. Why can't people in the USA just be happy and be happy for others and not pass judgment on someone's sexual preference. There are many children in this country that are in need for a loving home and I don't see why a loving GAY couple can't adopt a child. Being Gay is something that your BORN WITH. Think about it. if you had a child that was born with both sex parts and you had to choose- how do you know you are making the right choice? Why would anyone want to be an outcast to society. MYOB.
Melissa, Tampa, Fl
Lots of women are flat chested and have hair on their faces and still have children . The fact that mrs Beaties had a cosmetic prociedure to remove her brests and add an artifical penis does not make her a man. You can dress a chicken to look like a duck but it will still always be a chicken. I think the fact that Mrs Beaties kept her reproductive organs is proof that deep down inside she knows this is true
c sadecki, berkley, mi
Well Victoria, it seems that you are only caring about yourself. Let the man/woman be. If that's what he wants to do with his life then let it. If you don't want to see or hear about it, then don't. I'm not saying I agree with it, but people are too into themselves to let others be sometimes. It's 2008...science is amazing... expect things like this in the future.
laura, miami,
the definition of "man" and "woman" is just a social construction anyway. Nobody is 100% female or 100% male, we all exist on a spectrum. I think having a baby is beautiful no matter what and I can tell this baby will be loved by the parents. For mothers unsure of what to tell their children: teach them to be tolerant of others and not as close minded as you yourselves are. Best wishes to the new family.
Stephanie, Storrs,
I think its really cool this couple is going to have a baby. Its not like this is the first time this has happened, this one just has gotten all athe attention. Everyone has the right to have a baby and everyone knows it hard for a gay couple to adopt a baby, could you image how hard it would be for a transgender to adopt. I hope for a healthy baby girl for them. Just remember he may look male on the outside, but he has all the parts of a female to carry a child. Look at it this way.. This is just another women having a baby, she just so happens to look like a man.
Patricia Northcutt, Arlington, TEXAS
Well everyone seems to be so upset by the whole MAN HAVING A BABY thing but I guess none of you know anything about the animal world huh? There are animals that change sex to have a baby, there is one fish in perticular that changes from female to male if there are no males around. I think with all the advancements in technology this is not a shock. As for the children that see this story and have questions,it's no diffrence than any other transsexual situation. I have three kids 9,4&2 my boy is the 9 year old and has learned to accecept this kind of thing because our home town just had a city offical come out and say He wants to be a Her. My son had questions and I answered them now he knows tollerance. So why would I say these type of people are harming society when it taught such a good leson? I think they are very brave to stand up for what they want and feel sad that our society is one that even in a free nation we think we have the right to tell people their beliefs are wrong!
Linda, Largo, Florida
Congradulations, I support this couple all the way. As long as the baby is healthy and will be loved and taken care of, who cares how she was born or who gave birth to her. America just needs to be more open minded and stop being so judgemental of everything that is taboo or out of the ordinary. The only reason this is bothering people is because it's braking the norms and making some individuals feel uncomfortable.
Angelia, Cedarville,
I am on the fence with this one. For one "Thomas" is still a woman! She may live like a male, appear male to others (though I can easily tell she is female). She is a woman because she still has all her organs. I do not understand how she is "legally' a man. Because she has facial hair and wears mens clothing?
There are many transgender americans and crossdressers who are out there. But they usually take full responsibilty in the role they accept. Once "Thomas" decided she wanted to be a man, I believe that means she shouldn't have got pregnant. If her "wife" was unable they should have adopted or had another person in the family carry the baby.
For goodness sake this is a lesbian couple having a baby, not that strange in my eyes. Cake and eat it to yes, opposing their beliefs on us no. If you don't agree what you're doing fine, dont speak negative on them.
But for one Thomas is a woman, this is a lesbian couple just trying to have a baby and start a family.
m, san jose, ca
I also fully supprt this couple! And I think that just because this isn't the way it has always been doesn't mean it wasn't meant to be. Did we always have electricty, or cars? No and people use them everday without even blinking an eye. I am very happy for this couple that they will be able to find happiness as parents with the blessing of a child. I wish that other people weren't so hypocritical and closed minded. I am sure that these people are continually harassed by idiots who are telling them that what they are doing is wrong. YOU may care about your religious beliefs, but nobody else does, so keep them to yourself and don't force them upon other people. If you think that they are forcing thier beliefs upon you by going on Oprah, then turn off the T.V. You have the ability to not see it, but these people can not turn off their ears or eyes, so just leave them alone.
Jackie, Cookeville, TN
Mr. Beattie may legally be a man but biologically he is still a woman so I dont think this is any sort of miracle. Just another day in this modern world where people can do just about anything they want.
I do think its a mockery saying its a pregnant man. I would be more impressed if he were BORN a male and having a baby.
Gina, Houston, USA
For sure, this story flies in the face of everything I was told about reproduction while I was growing up. However I can't make myself dismiss it or think harshly of Thomas Beatie and his wife. There are, in fact, many sides of this story to consider. When Thomas chose to undergo gender reassignment, what did it mean to him to keep all his female reproductive organs? Did he, even then, plan to carry a child at some point? Did he wish to cling to some aspect of his feminine identity? Was it something else? What does it mean about our society as a whole that so many people so critical to Thomas' life don't (or at least didn't) know that he's transgender? What about his unsupportive friends and family? Regarding children today who will see this story and wonder, what's keeping them from forming their own opinions or even accepting this story as fact to be assimilated into their concepts of reproduction? Humanity is always changing, and if this is what it's changing into, I say: so be it.
Riley, Bryn Mawr, Pennsylvania
To Victoria, Chicago.
I read your comment. you know what it surprised me as much as the story of the man itself. How in the name of God would you expect the man to care what effect it would have in society when he/she is burdened with such huge burden from nature??
sam, california, US
We have created our own RIGHTS in our society. It is our choive, and now we have to live with it. I just wish that the unborn baby girl has her own choice to be placed in that position. GOD BLESS HER!
Nguyen, Huntington Beach,
I was totally suprised about this article for i have not heard it in the news yet. Its weird,but totally understandable. our society has changed so much throughout the years that this shouldnt be quite the stir. In reality this Mr. Beatie is truly a woman disguised even though he changed himself years ago he still wishes to bring life, who are we to judge when people are doing all this insemination process and bring multiple babies all at once the important thing here would be that all specialist and people around him help the family out so that baby can survive and lead a normal life. Everyone is giving their opinion on how it affects society maybe our world is not ready for this but dont harm their lives or make it any worse than what they already feel because that child has no blame in this. She didnt choose to come into this world.
didi, miami,fl, usa
I am a very open-minded person, but I don't support this situation. Most of the people I know do not suppost this either, and they are very open-minded also. I agree that this shakes up reality..women are the only people that should be pregnant. What about the child? She will have many emotional issues when she is older. She has to live with the fact that the person who gave birth to her is a man. She will have to think about how she is not biologically related to her actual mother. People will tease her. Has this couple thought about this? I think it is selfish. What will our society come to? Yes, something like stem cell research is going pretty far in science, but I support it. Now a man having a baby? That is going too far. I think it is great that scientists are doing more and more in science, but there is a fine line between what is acceptable in to people in our society, and what isn't. Many people are not comfortable with this idea, including me.
Katie, Albany, NY
Itâs not the matter of close minded society, but itâs the matter of accepting something that people have never experienced. I do agree with the couple and itâs their own decision, I see as the opportunity to those transgender who can be a male and also can experience the pregnancy, which I call it as a miracle, the baby, growing in their body. But on the other hand, itâs true.
For a parent to explain such a situation to a child is a very challenging task. In all of this, what I understand is that a man is seen as pregnant, but truly, itâs a womanâs reproductive system in his body that makes it possible for a man to be pregnant by incision of sperms.
So Education will definitely have impact on the young generation, the basics of reproductive system should be taught in school to make this example a beautiful way of looking at life.
Swapnil, Tampa, USA/FL India/Mumbai
I support this couple, as long as their is love between them and for their child, I think everything else will be fine. It is not something easy to accept, but it's their choice and, therefore, should be something we all respect. I wish them a happy life and a healthy happy baby.
Beatriz, Mendoza, Argentina
we are living in a America people, don't be so naive...more weird things will definitely arise in the near future so get used it...What Thomas' couple did was legal, although it's very peculiar but we have no choice but to wish them the best!
jk, Philly, PA
To impose your judgements of others lifestyles in itself is a very selfish act. We all have opinions, however many of us do not have the bravery to chase after our desires in life, especially in light of social persecution.
To be selfish and impose my opinion, life is too short to worry about and degrade others for their choices. It is, for me, much more desirable to seek out my own path amidst the scenery created by those choosing to do the same.
Dream on and live large!
ebartlett, Bellingham,
i want to hear about this baby,becos i dont know wen God started allowing "men" give birth to children.sha!we will see how far dis goes!
sandra, virginia,
I support them! we women always complain when we have our period and the men listen.. what ends up being said is hey why dont u try being a women or having a baby! You know most of you women have said it once or twice.. now that is happening ppl are acting like it wasnt going to happen.. He is smart, i think he has every right to hold on to his female parts.. there his no on is god! judgement isnt going to correct the person just make them want what they have more.. i wish them luck and happiness.. Because everyone deserves a chance!
Alexis Hinton, Newport news, Virginia
My opinion is, we are born male or female just as animals and flowers. You should stay the way you are. This world is too crazy now. This person is so confused and has no right to do this to the baby. But now the only thing thats imortant is that the baby is healthy.
angie, houston, tx
I, for one, and upset by this story. The human race has become selfish and self absorbed. This woman made a conscious decision to become a man. In doing so she should have been forced to give up all of her reproductive organs. It is not a matter of living your life and doing what you want, it is a matter of being conscious of those around you. I donât want my children looking at men and wondering why they are pregnant. Flaunting your story on Oprah, in magazine and on T.V. shows is forcing your beliefs on me. If they want to live there lives as confused individuals then so be it. But I would rather I didnât have to hear about it. Is anyone concerned about the mother who has to explain to her child why a man is pregnant or what affect that has on the child? Does anyone wonder what effect this will have on the generation growing up? When you make choices like these you are affecting the world not just your family. No one cares about anyone but themselves and that is what is wrong.No one cares about anyone but themselves and that is what is wrong. When Thomas decided to become a man he should have understood what that meant. You should not be allowed to have your cake and eat it to.
Victoria Mai, chicago, IL
I think that this is just too weird. This just shakes up reality in a sense because it has always been a women that gave birth. And if it was meant to be like this then more men would have had babies. But this obviously isn't meant to be. Where will our society end up if this continues to happen.
Lindsay, Tasha, Town, Canada
i fully support the couple, i still can't beleive there are so many closed minded people i america, but to each his or her own, i hope they have a healthy baby and have a happy life together they need a webite so people can support them and they can know there are people that care about them and their right to have their own family.!!!!
lonniea, tracy, california
regardless of the decision made then, we as outsiders should not be in the position to question. it is without a doubt that it is unnatural for beatie to be born a girl and took the decision to change what was God-given. (but who is to question his religious belief? or impose our upbringings on them?) however, he and his wife is no different from couples who want to have children. does it really matter who has the baby? why let stereotypes judge them? does it really make sense to you that all woman should be housewives and all man should work. or does it make sense that man should be greatly disturbed when their wifes are more capable than them and brings home the bigger bread? why let stereotypical roles judge our gender? if the beaties are capable of loving the baby girl and nutures her well, who is to say that the baby girl would be better off in a regular family? and should we force our own religious beliefs upon them? i think not.
stella, Singapore, Singapore
I think that it is rather brave of Thomas to make such a great decision to bear a child. And why is everyone being so unsupportive and narrow minded? What they do in their lives is their business. At least the baby will be brought up in a family that wants her and loves her. And all those who thinks that god is upset is clearly insane. God loves all!! Women are supposed to bear children and is Thomas not borned a female? Well there ya go! I hope that people would leave them alone and let them live their lives. Don't discriminate be it lesbians, gays, transgenders or a person with one eyeball.... you get the point... I wish them the best of luck and hope that they can get the support from their loved ones.
Aubrey, bakersfield, ca
There are many children who are "COMPETELY" wanted and Loved in this world. BUT!!!!!! Lets not lose sight of the real issue at hand. Who are we to try play the role of God?? If men were intended to have a pregnancy and give birth they would have been born that way. I understand this is not a case of a "Man" having a baby, but a confused woman living in a fanasty world. I do feel this world has become way to concided and the human race is getting over their heads. We are NOT God nor should we try to take on that role. There is only ONE maker for which we should let control our physical beings. GOD!!!!! Where are we headed? Are you not worried about this? I would Never discriminate against anyone who may not follow my belief. I can have my opinion and pray for those I feel are breaking the laws of Nature and God. God Bless.
Lanie, Jacksonville, USA
When a man loves a woman so deep he wants to give her everything her heart desires, and when it comes to giving her a child and she is not able to concieve or adopt there is nothing he can do. Well this man can do just that, give his wife her most precious gift, a child. Even when it means he is going to be judged and ridiculed and cast out from his very own family. I think we should be thinking about whose job it is to judge and leave it at that. Maybe look at the person who is doing this and get to know them and why would they put themselves through this. Who knows, maybe we will meet the kindest person in the world, after all he is giving the woman he loves the greatest gift in the world.
Amy, Springfield, Ohio
I am very confused with this story. I can't believe that women would want to be men and men would want to have a baby. I think it is so sweet that a man would want to have a child for his wife and family but what about adoption? I just don't want my daughter growing up thinking that this is ok. I think it is sick.
erica , van buren , arkansas
Imagine that, a child that is COMPLETELY wanted and will be loved! Shame on you who think you can sit in judgement of this couple and their decision.
Caoimhe, Grants Pass, OR
I was moved by Thomas's story. As a woman, T always desired to be the one she truly was. As a man, he's done more than ever to love his woman and build a happy family. And, as a human being, he wants to have children. I'm impressed by him, by what he has done. We whom consider ourselves to be the normal has sinfully given us the right to discriminate everything and everyone that are different from us. Just have a look and thought. A lot of girls every year go to the hospital to have abortions. Done, and they feel relieved, and continue that way of living without any regret. We often blame people in the "third world" for breaking social and moral rules and standard. But Thomas, more than anyone, has carried all that duty. He has become the first man in history that never gives in to the privilegde and unpreviledge that nature gives us. Reading uoir story, I can't do nothing but to say that we often support you and ur wife as well as your child and wish you all the best! Never give up!
Phuong Thao, Ho Chi Minh, Vietnam
I feel sick. A woman who gave up her right to be a woman, who now chose to go back on that decision. You're still confused. And its wrong to bring a child into it.
Billybob, paris, france
As a British Overseas Territory post-operative male-to-female gender variant interested party...
With United Kingdom's Gender Recognition Act 2004 (GRA) not requiring a Gender Recognition Certificated bearer's sterility/inability to procreate...
What an ass the like of Thomas Beatie (nee Tracy Lagondino) being a pregnant man, just as easily happening to a GRA certificated person in Britain would make of the UK Gender Recognition Act 2004 and its Gender Recognition Panel...
No wonder four years on that this dog's breakfast of a United Kingdom's Gender Recognition Act 2004 has no validity, and difficulty enjoying credibility outside the United Kingdom . . . especially with religiously conservative electorates of the self-governing British Overseas Territories whose legislators are reluctantly endeavoring to draw up and enactâas on Bermudaâlong overdue locally acceptable dovetailing Human Rights legislation that complies with the European Convention on Human Rights and United Kingdom legislation vis-a-vis gender variant people...
Brenda Lana Smith R af D, Bodmin, Cornwall
This is no wrongdoing here and I wish Beatie's family all the best. It's how we react to the incident that informs us more about who we are.
Shanna, Hong Kong,
To Lisa, if this is your stand then any woman who has a miscarraige should not try again. Creating a baby is an 'experiment' no matter how you look at it....no one knows if their baby will be 'normal' or look 'normal'. 2 perfectly healthy people (man and woman) can have a child with special needs or a deformity. There is no perfect life or perfect scenario. That is why we have so many choices as to bringing a child into the world or into your family. We can only do what is best for our own situation. What you are saying about the crazy 'charges' is rediculous - people lose babies every day for no reason at all, does that mean they don't get another chance? Does that mean that the next time they miscarry the law should get involved....seriously, think about what you are saying. This is a man and a woman starting a family, that is all that matters. It's people like you in the world that need to evaluate their own life not the life of someone else.
Wendy, Dallas, Texas
I think this is wrong. This child is going to be very confused, and made fun of for almost all of her alolscent. You have chosen to make a selfish decision and did not really think about how this will effect your little girl as she is growing. I pray that God will open your eyes.
Danielle, upstate, New York
I think that it is Wonderful! A child is a beautiful gift wether it be from a man or woman. And adopting is also a great thing.. but at the same time, people have diffrent feelings toward adopting, and some would rather have their flesh and blood. I think its neat to change things up a bit. I mean its not everyday that you hear about a man being pregnant. Right? So i wish Thomas and his family good luck, and Congratulations.
Kristie, Beckley, Wv
The real sad truth is after all, what the child will experience when she grows up, knowing how she came into this world. Add to the fact that the sperm is from a third party; makes for a very traumatic and confused life.
If Thomas Beatie and his wife were so desperate to have a family, what happened to adopting to the one of millions already abandoned children in this world as their own?
Z. O., Toronto, Ontario,
I don't know how they could do this to there baby. Think about how strange it is. We all can agree it's not normal and out of the ordinary, sowhy should this girl have to bbe born into this situation, which i'm sure will not be positive for the child.
David, Brooklyn, NY
I think it's wonderful! A child who is wanted, loved, and has two parents fully committed to bringing them into the world. Blessings to the family! May it all go easily, safely and with great support.
Lisa, Columbia, Mo.
Lisa, Columbia, Mo.
it's sort of funny how many times i have read the word "GOD" in all of these comments. it's also really ironic that the first amendment gives us our freedom of religion, yet the american dollar still says "in god we trust" on it. maybe god has nothing to do with it. or maybe we really don't have freedom of religion . who knows. all i know is that Thomas Beatie and his family are not harming anyone else by doing this. it's rare these days for a child to be raised in a home with TWO loving parents. so let's just leave "GOD" out of it. i am sure that even he would be happy to see a child grow up in a loving home, with loving parents.
nikki, memphis, tn
I want to see the ultra sound
ms simms, Los Angeles,
I don't think it really matters who carries the child during the pregnancy as long as the baby is healthy and as long as the parents agree to what they want for themselves and their child, it's okay and no one else should be invading their privacy. Of course it's shocking to the world and it's news but that's really all it is...news... in time, it'll die off and before we know it, it just may be another way of life to all of us.
kimberly, schuyler,
As long as that child is loved unconditionally, then who are you to say it is wrong. I wish that family a happy, healthy life.
jackie, buffalo, ny
I think this is great. It's a blessing to that family to be able to create a child. Who has the right to say that someone is doing something wrong. If he and his wife love that child and are doing everything they can to make sure the baby will be ok, they are better parent than many "women" who've had children. And to say that the child is going to grow up suffering is only due to the people who are judging this family. Live and let live. The world would be a much better place if everyone appreciated diversity and just left people alone. And to the Beatie family, Congrats and I wish you only the best.
c, galveston, tx
Well, I'm sorry that I have to be the one to say what no one wants to here, but I guess I have to. The woman is the one who gives birth. This is even stated in the Bible, where God gives women the punishment of pain in child birth. Although I sincerely hope that the child is raised in a loving and nurturing environment, it is inevitable that the child will be ridiculed, as well those associated with it. Happy Morning Sickness, bud!
Rebecca, Charleston,
This is a sad storie. The baby will be the victim. I pray they will be failed. If they succeed, I pray the baby will be safe and live well and do not follow her parents path.
Via, Austin, Texas
to tell you the truth i dont like what mr beatie did but who am i to judge him it is none of my business also it is none of anybody s business why should he tells other he used to be woman and now a man and is going to have baby so he should be quiet about it it is between him and his wife nancy and i think he is a big blessing for nancy becayse she cant have any child i am sure she will be thrilled to have a baby from him so please leave them alone or you all enjoy to destroy the child life when she grow up leave them alone let that innocent little girl have joy and good life i am sick of the gossipers snipped at many people who want something that they cant have please please leave those people alone also please mr bertie and nancy to shut up your mouth up for your childs sake so she will not be suffer when she grow up my daughter wanted to have 2 babies without husband and now where are they??? she throw them out father took them
lois , slc , utah
I am currently 5 months pregnant, and i applaud Thomas Beatie for even considering doing this. Pregnancy is a very difficult experience and can be very demanding. I feel that what Thomes is doing is very couragus and shows exactly how he feels towards his wife and his life. No person should be penolised and bullied because they are doing what they think is right, if this was the case then many events in the past would never have made history. I would like to congratulate Thomas and his wife and there great news and wish them every happiness in the furture. All the best!!!!!
Sam Perry, Halifax, UK, England
My concern is not for the couple, but the baby. They already attempted to do this once, and the result was dissaterous and three babies lost there lives. The chance that they could have messed up the gender of the baby he is currently caring is uncalled for. They are experimenting with real life and it is not just an embryo or some cell or a lower life form. This is a human being and to experiment with a human life should be against the law. If something happens to this child or if this child has problems because of there own experimentation, then they should be brought up on charges of child endangerment. I pray that this child has a healthy life, But only God can decide what will happen to this child. If God wants this to happen then the baby will be born. We as humans can try all the science we want but if God says no then that's it.
Lisa, Austin, TX
This is disturbing...wow! not in a good way either!
Rishanna, chicago, Il
Live and let live. It doesn't effect you all so what is the problem. What that is the biggest problem in the world, others what to tell people if they are living their lives wrong or not. We are a diverse world, accept that and move on. Just because someone believes differently than you doesn't make them wrong, nor does it make it right, who are you to decide. You are not GOD.
Michelle, Muncie, Indiana
If he had the desire to become pregnant, then why did he undergo surgery to become a man, when God has already created him as a woman? The fact that today, Mr T Beatie is pregnant is evident proof of God's will: Mr T Beatie was born woman and should have remained woman. GOD is the Creator and we have no right to change His creations. It's true that we cannot judge this couple, but that does not mean that we should accept everything! God has indeed given us the intelligence to progress in science but it does not mean that we should try and take the place of God! It's all a matter of faith. If you believe in God as THE Creator, and in the hereafter, you will understand my position on this issue.
Barbie M, Port, Mauritius
I agree with the first post by Isabel of Miami, -
âWanting to have a biological child is neither a male nor female desire but a human desire.â
This is factually incorrect and goes against every law of nature and biology and what it means to be a mammal!
I won't pass judgement on the individual in this case, but it should certainly not be encouraged!
Rob Everett, Nottingham, England UK
I know every human has the right to have a child, but common under what circumstances. What kind of education or normal family is this kid going to have in the future.
What explantion this kid is going to receive when he ask to see the pictures of his mom when she was pregnant and instead of that he sees his "supposed" Father with the huge belly. I'm sorry but that is not normal neither healthy for any human especially for a little kid. There is a million rules that society has passed over and just forgotten over the years , but this is just too much. If they wanted to have a kid why they did't adopt one kid...There is million of children dying every year because they dont have food or shelter.
Isabel, Miami, FL
In this black and white world in which the majority of us subscribe, many are very comfortable communicating exactly where they stand on colors of gray. It saddens me that individuals who claim to live in the light of God would be eager to demean, chastise and identify another child of God as âIt.â We are all seeking a greater sense of self, but that sense should never come from the position of empowerment based upon difference and fear of the unknown. Many horrific events have taken place throughout history that are based upon those beliefs. It amazes me that so many believers of God so easily forget his message of love and acceptance. YOU are the ones who give Christianity a bad name! The world wasnât black and white when Christ died to save it and it is not black and white now!
Daisy, Spokane, WA
This was the last thing I ever expected to read when I opened my E-mail today. Love is so bizarre. I can understand the people who were caught off gaurd by their decision. However, I don't condone crultey by anyone. Life is hard enough without people imposing their own nasty feeling, especially if the choice was made out of love. Only God can be the judge of that.
Rayne, Savannah,
I say hoorah!! Bringing a child into this world will be a joyous event for them both i'm sure. They sound very happy about the pregnancy. If Thomas was willing to do this I say good for you Thomas. I also say, SHAME on the doctors and anyone else that discriminates these parents for wanting to have a baby! They love each other & will love & care for this child, isn't that all that matters? I live in a VERY SMALL coastal community in Oregon, and i'd like to believe that us small town folk are more tolerant of everybody than the "city" folk. We pretty much love all of our neighbors regardless of gender, or anything else! Afterall we're all just people when you get down to it.
sue metcalfe, Siletz, U.S.A Oregon
WHAT in the world is this world coming to. we are living in the end times that everything in the Bible is coming to past. Check revelation.
Firstly He or what ever IT calls IT self( umhh FREAK). IT was a woman, then man, then married to a woman, then kept IT sexual organ. now IT is pregnant. What i see is a confused human being that need help. and is crying out for help.
Get saved, and Come to God
Confused human>
jade, London,
As Mr Beatie says, a human desire, not a gender related one, to procreate. Although it might sound strange or unnaceptable to many, I think it is exceptional that a human being that at one point decided to under go a dramatic change, becoming a male, decided for unselfish reasons, that is my opinion, to be the one to carry the pregnancy. My heart goes out to them, it's a cruel enough world, but they have all the love required to raise a happy child. Who are we to judge? is it because it's "unnatural", goes against God's plans? We don't know that! God himself will look into that when it's time for it. Shame on the doctor's that refuse to provide care to this expecting father.
Maya, Nogales, Arizona
I say good on him! Clearly the child is going to be loved and cared for, therefore it shouldnt be anyones concern. I dont agree with discrimination he's facing from doctors, as practitioners of the medical field they have an ethical responsibility to make sure both the parent and child are healthy. Turning them away, making comments that are just plain rude isnt what people pay them thousands of dollars to do.
Daniella, Boston, MA
Reading this, my life look so beautifully mundane.
AJ, Oxford, UK
Each of us get to make choices each day and why is it that these choices make others so mad. This baby will be loved and cared for with a male figure and a female figure. Do we all think we know what God thinks and how God judges all situations. One of Christ Best Sermons was when he was on the cross and he said about those who crusified him... "forgive them because they don't know what they do." Earilier in the Scriptures he says, I will forgive who I will forgive but of you it is required to forgive all men. Why with these words are we so harsh and do we judge so meanly. Why do we not forgive and love others and Jesus did.
Shawn, Mesa, AZ, USA
I do believe we live in the United States of America and that beyound all else we pride ourselves on "our" freedom here. As an American why should this family be any different than any other family. They have the right to a child just as much as a gay couple would have to adopt a child. How they accomplish becoming a family is their business and none of us has the right to say otherwise. Should I not have another child as I have 4 already? Should we not have a family because we are single, or obese, or gay, or black, or white, rich, or poor? Whos call is it? Who will have to raise that child and care for that child? They will and I guess they feel, just as any one of us, that they are ready and capable to do so. Do not judge unless you've walked a mile in thier shoes. Congrats to them!
D. Bray, Somerville, NJ
If Mr. Beatie's child wil be raised with love, compassion and discipline, his child will be much better off than many children who come from the union of a typical man and woman. If no one questions the right of an abused woman, teenager or HIV-positive drug addict to have a child, why question the Beatie's suitability to procreate?
Kristen, Sisseton,
Being legal spouse of a trans person I wish this family the very best. Your child will be blessed to be in a loving family. It is to bad all children are not conceived with such thought and love.
M, Seattle,
The news certainly breaks the monotony of learning about ordinary incidents. But there are some variables that do not fit in to make it a legitimate claim. Reproductive system wise both of them are women. But they are married for a long time with Mr. Beatie being the husband of Ms. Nancy and so forth. In any case, this is bold venture and good luck to the couple.
Quazi Ahmed Hussain, Dhaka, Bangladesh
I think this is a wonderful story. I wish the world wasn't so consumed with hate and prejudice, what's important is this baby will be loved and brought up in a wonderful home. Good luck and best wishes to the happy family.
Rebecca, Westland, MI
I feel sorry for this "guy". The reason for this is that she felt the need to play God. And that leads me to the question of, "Why, as Americans, do we feel the need to do that?". Why can't we just be happy with the way God made us? If a person is born as a woman, and they feel as if though the are supposed to be a man, why do they think they have they "right" to change what God originally made? Do they think that they have this "right" because that's just how they feel? And it's their body and they can do whatever they want with it? Because if that's the case, then next time I "feel" like robbing a bank, then why not? As long as I don't hurt anyone else, why not? Right? Just because we have "feelings" about something doesn't mean we should act upon them. HMMMMM. Crazy, huh? Also, just because God has given us the technology to do something, doesn't mean we should. Like nuclear war. We have the technology to do it, however full global nuclear war would mean the end of the world. Think.
Michael J. Wheeler, Denver, CO
I'm so sorry that his family doesn't support him. I think it's great that he is having a child. Any child that comes into the world and into a loving, caring home is blessed. As long as a person loves the child and takes care of it what's wrong? I'm happy for them and wish them a beautiful, healthy baby! I hope that they take comfort in the fact that many of us are supporting them. Mary from Vermont
Mary, East Fairfield, VT
I have already commented but wanted to correct one ting I wrote...
These gender terms are socially constructed, brought about by learned sex roles (blue and toy trucks for boys, pink and barbies for girls--to get the gist), so to say Mr. Beatie was once a woman (XX) and now a man (XY) is incorrect. .. Mr. Beatie is XX, biologically a woman.
I had originally gotten the XX and XY backwards in my original post. Also, I would like to state that religion should not be used to argue this case. There are way too many religions in the world. To each their own.
Beki, STL, US
if seahorses can do it, why can't we?
Alana, Ann Arbor, USA
Every human being has traits of male and female within them
so whats there if a men is carrying , in this case lets wish beatie to give birth for a wonderful baby and pray that he should have a very safe pregnancy,our prayers are with him
this is going to be one of the most wonderful experience that he could ever have,with such a lovely feeling to be a father and a mother at the same time ,,,,
cheers
maria, llanelli, scotland
Eac human beings have both traits in them.So even this kid will have that and its upto God to decide whether which trait will dominate.So please don't ount chickens before it hatches.And he want his own kid let him do whatever he likes.Just dont harm him if u cant help him.
hannah, Trivandrum, India
Gosh, I wish my husband could have carried one of our babies so he could have gone through the same amazing tranformation I did. The bond that you develop while nurturing and growing the baby is absolutely wonderful and life changing. Thomas and Nancy obviously have a very strong bond and they are doing this for the right reason, out of true love.
I hope that all goes well and that your family, friends, and community will come to support and accept the decision you made to bring a new life into the world.
Helena, Chelan, WA
Where there is love, there is life. I feel sorry for the people who are delusional in their beliefs about God. Religion is personal, and is not to be dictated by one to another.
Rachel, Orem, UT
I think that it is wonderful. At least these people want to have a child and want to give a child love. Look at all the unhappy homes that children are born into. These folks can offer strength as well. I wish them the best of luck and good health for all 3 of them. Why should it matter who carries, the outcome is the same, a beautiful baby!
Shannon, Sayre, Pa
I think what you are doing is a wonderful thing good luck and hope you have a healthy baby girl.
god be with you two through it
megan from arizona
megan , gilbert, arizona
I was horrified when I first heard of this, but after reading this article, I sympathise with them. It takes two very strong people to come to this decision and go through with it. I hope everything goes well. I cannot help but feel they will love this child very much. I only hope the little girl will be accepted by a world of unbelievably small-minded people.
It wasn't so long ago that IVF was looked upon with shock and horror. Now, it's just another day in the doctor's office.
JB, Greensboro, NC
i wish the parents and baby all the best the same as any other parents and new baby, nothing is wrong in this world if it doesn't harm others, worry about terrorism, abuse etc end of.....
jacqui green, bristol, england uk
I think its amazing. They get to have a family of there own and will it will be theres not an foster child.
I don't think it's right to disrimanate against this family.
They want to have a family like every 1 else and would probally do anything to do so.
I hope it goes out well so that they can have a nice, healthy family.
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Kiah, indianapolis,
Mr Beatie and lovely family, I want you to know from my heart that I smiled the whole time I read this article.
What you are doing is beautiful and right !!!!
And if anyone tells you anything else it is only because they fear their own emotions / beliefs. It is their confusion and lack of knowledge and heart.
I wish you so much luck and happiness. And you are so very very brave :) !
Thank you !
Cathrine, Norway, Norway
Loose the "man pregnant" headlines please, she's no such thing. It's nice that these two women are having a baby but seriously, if you want to claim that you've changed sex you've got to get the plumbing fixed. Anything less isn't a sex change and you've got to wonder how honestly committed the person is to their new gender if they won't take the really important step.
Ruth, Godalming, UK
I can honestly say that this child, being wanted by both of her parents, stands a better chance in life than many children born into households with teen mothers or unpresent fathers.
Taking logic from a male aristocratic religion, if your "god" didn't want it this way, then he/she wouldn't have made it this way.
Kathryn, Arlington, VA
This has nothing to do with what "God wants". No one ever mentions that God gave us all free will to determine the path we choose for our lives. Of course anyone can do anything they want, but the fact that it is possible does not make it right. God gives us very basic instructions which should be innate to humans. (The eightfold path, the ten commandments, etc.) God does not control our actions, we do.
This whole situation is obsurd and epitomizes whats wrong with our society. No one takes personal responsibility for their actions.
Shaun, St. Louis, Missouri
I am a strong believer in God, and this situation shocks me.
I can't believe that this would please Him in the least.
I refuse to believe that He would be anything but happy that these people found a way to raise a family together. He's letting us live our own lives to the best of our ability, why don't we follow His example and let them be?
This is GOOD! If his wife can't have the child, why should they be deprived? You have my best wishes, and many congradulations.
I'm glad there are so many people out there that are so accepting and supportive of this, and I'm sorry that so many others are so cruel and judgmental of your situation.
Luke Nephal, College Station, TX
well..interesting to comment..
i'm quite neutral with it..
maybe to some its abnormal or absurd..
while others give their blessings to them..
in the end it's up to the child to decide if she is blessed to be living in this world or to be outcasted and judged by other people because of being born by a father?
its like..we shouldn't use God name in vain..like oh my "G**"
read some comments of some people using God's name and view others like its not normal..typical i would say..
with this kind of thinking, i mean you have turned off non-christians and they will judged christians even worst..
don't get offended..
i meant no harm..just having some freedom of speech
and looking from a different point of view :)
Jocelyn.T, Singapore, Singapore
The issue is so much deeper than what we are looking at. There are two people who think that their lifestyle is OK with God. The fact that this young lady is pregnant is not a disgrace to God, she is a woman and was given the body to do so. We are commanded to be fruitful and multiply; according to HIS stipulations. Yes we as Christians are not to judge anyone, it is in the Bible. The Bible also says that we have the right to examine a persons fruit (lifestyle) and draw conslusions thereafter. If we would just read the Bible, we would realize that it is accurate, alive and relevant today. THIS IS BIBLE PROPHESY BEING FULFILLED. Instead of us Christians being irate and disgusted by them, we should be praying for them because we know that they can not experience true llife until they KNOW HIM and we know what fate they stand to face if they were to die or if Jesus was to come back while they we in this state. This should strenghen our faith in the Word and God.
Miesha, Durham, NC
If God did not want this to happen on a scale that people are insinuating he would have dealt with it himself. No natural destructive forces or major medical problems? Well, there's your answer.
I think it's amazing that they were given a second chance to have a child like this and that Thomas was thoughtful enough to think about his future life after his change to keep his womb in case he wanted to have a child.
I think many men, if given the chance, would carry for their wives if their wives couldn't, instead of encouraging their wives to go through risky, painful, and sometimes fatal fertility treatments. Anyone that doesn't probably doesn't deserve a wive.
Rev. M. Rose, Buffalo, us
Why is it that so many Christian posters on this site are full of un-Christian hate and intolerance?
As long as the baby is fine and has caring parents, what does it really matter?
duster, London,
Hey!!! It's amazing the way people just express about this couple as monsters, as if they were mentally ill.
Instead, there are real monsters, who appear to be "normal" people, and they only have children to rape them again and again and again.... and live a "NORMAL" life to the views of society.
Cynthia Z, Mexico, Mexico City
To all who say that this is not natural and that science is the devil, I suggest they stop using the unnatural evil things brought about by science, such as the Internet, computers, cars, airplanes, refrigerators, telephones, and anything that uses electricity for that matter, along with all antibiotics, antidepressants, anesthetics, or any medication other than herbs freely available in nature. Those are all unnatural things that god never intended for people to use, because if he had, he would have made them for us.
Now that we have solved that problem, the rest of us that remain can use the science freely for our own wellbeing.
Congrats and best wishes go to the Beatie family.
V, Springfield,
Life is too short to worry about what people think! about other people action and choices they make. whatever floats your boat, Do It! and be happy. Its your Life and be happy.
mary, st.louis, mo
Dear Chris and M.R.
I resent you talking about someone you obviously don't know and the book He wrote as a love letter to all mankind. Perhaps you should pick it up sometime and read it so you are able to post intelligent, factual comments. You can deny God all you want, but that doesn't make Him any less real. You can see God all around you and you don't even have to really look that hard. Just the fact that this kind of a pregnancy is occurring should indicate that! Now, my personal opinion - God wonderfully and magnificently created Thomas as a woman in body, soul and spirit, and that's how "he" should have stayed overall. But, no matter what, God loves him/her.
As far as Adam and Eve, when you read and re-read that account, can't you feel how it pained God to render that consequence? He had no joy in that, but He had to honor His word; just like when we punish our own kids when we warn them and they CHOOSE to do wrong. We correct them BECAUSE we love them.
R.M., Warren, MI
Personally, it's a very disgusting thing to witness. Everything on the earth and in the skies has been created by God and belong to Him. To Him shall we return. There is a reason behind each and every creation of GOD. Likewise, there is a reason why God cretaed man and woman differently. So who are we to change? That's why we are having so many calamities in the world... we engage ourselves in devil actions and we complain when God punish us! When will Man think logically???
Barbie M, Port, Mauritius
This is absolutely wonderful, congrats to the family and I think theres nothing wrong with this. a loving family trying to get children? how on earth could that be wrong
Donovan Verhagen, Hilvarenbeek,
Annmarie from Boston.
Yes i do think what you say is crazy!
There is no GOD! Or certainly not the God you pray to! Loose your prejudice! If there was a GOD he would simply be happy that we are continuing life, and people are being true to themselves. "If" he created man he created them as they are so instead of trying to change people and their feelings, which would go against your God, why not display those qualities you say God possesses such as empathy and unrequited love.
Get back in your box!
Chris Ward, Coventry, United Kingdom
Dear Annmarie, God left us to it when he kicked Adam and Eve out of Eden.
M.R., Lancaster,
I think it's great! Good luck!! I wish all the best for them and their baby. Don't let anyone bring you down.
Morgan, Charleston, SC
I think this is amazing, a loving couple are doing all they can to have a child of their own to love and raise. Good luck to them, we could do with more families that put children and love over what society tells them is 'normal'.
Sarah H, Chester, UK
I think that people fail to realize that no matter what GOD over comes it all. People like to think they can defy their creator and that's how science comes about. NO MATTER what we can change our names, and have all these surgeries to physically change things, but GOD ultimatley stands the same. The person named Thomas Beatie was born a woman and will die a woman even with all the changes.
The same goes for gay men/lesbian woman your thinking is all screwed up. Some may say their born like that but it's all a sign of times to come. It was written and people fail to realize it and try to except the change as something we should get used to. Well that's why we have sooo much damn destruction going on now. Science is trying to take the way of REAL life, like the Devil would love to take over GOD. If you think what I say is crazy watch for yourself in the NEWS, on your day to day shows, and on the NGEO channel.
Annmarie, Boston,
My concern is for the father/mother health and the baby as well. If he/she has decided to "turn into" a man taking hormone replacement therapy, how could she/he deliver a healthy baby? What will be the aftermath of someone who has taken so many drugs to turn into a man and then reverse the whole process in order to give birth?
The loving/caring issue of having a baby is in this situation, that the baby girl will be cared for and loved very much, but then why are they deciding to place her in the tabloid and be pointed out? In my opinion, they as a couple should protect the baby girl and not place her at the spot of all moral/rational/ethical/psychological/medical discussions and quarrels. It appears that they want their 15 minutes of glory...
Ana, Mexico City, Mexico
I think this is wonderful. Many couples desire to have a biological child and there are so many out there who cannot. It may be an unconventional way of doing so but this is the way for them to start and complete their family. Shame on those who disagree. Those who can and will care for a child the way a child should be should never be reprimanded for how that child is conceived. Just because it's not the way you do it doesn't make it wrong.
Rose, St. Cloud, MN
To the people using God for a weapon... that's just wrong. I'm a Christian, and I know for a fact that He doesn't want His named to be used like you are using it. Saying "God is upset" is not a way to change people's mind about anything; it will only make them angry.
On the topic, I do believe it will be difficult for the couple and the child, but I think they knew that going in to this, and even though it's strange, I want to wish them luck. Children are a gift and there is nothing wrong with wanting one, even if the process of having one is a little different than the norm
Lindsey, Atlanta, GA, USA
This is truly wonderful. It is not our place to judge these people! The desire to raise a family is not gender-specific, and each person on this earth deserves the right to have a child. Why subject this couple to your ignorant and close-minded speculation? There is no reason that this couple's little girl will not live a full, healthy, normal life. As long as parents love their children, what do sex and gender matter? Congratulations, Thomas and Nancy. Babies are wonderful--now is a time to celebrate!
Karlee, Radford, Virginia
I think it was sweat of him to do that for his wife.It hard to find good men like that they just don't underestand what we go throw to have a beautful child. I think gode for men like thomas. I pray every thing gose good for him and his wife . Let god be with them.
mindy, lewisburg, united state
Let's get the terms correct.. Mr. Beatie is biologically female (woman), masculine gender. "He" is not a man, but a transgendered human being, that is, having masculine traits. These gender terms are socially constructed, brought about by learned sex roles (blue and toy trucks for boys, pink and barbies for girls--to get the gist), so to say Mr. Beatie was once a woman (XY) and now a man (XX) is incorrect. Rather, Mr. Beatie has transcended the typical norm by taking on a learned sex role of a man (the masculine) while living in a woman's biological make-up. There's nothing wrong with any of this. It is society that is the culprit of anyone's prejudices here. For this self-called man born a woman to want to have a baby yet call himself a man then that's his given right. As for those calling him selfish, you obviously think Mr. Beatie is devaluing values you have. Well, not everyone's values are the same. Live on!
Beki, STL, USA
i think the baby should be born no matter what because i believe abortion is not the right thing to do at all. i guess if this isnt he 1st transgender to have a baby then i guess i would tell that couple have great life and i hope the baby will be healthy, but it is quite different and weird yes.
katina, New York City, US NY
this is beyond strange. It is morally and socially irresponsible. What's next? Inseminating your dog because you can't conceive? I agree that once you decide on a gender change you give up all the things associated with your previous gender. People get desperate when they want to have a child and resort to whatever means they feel necessary without considering the risk, confusion, and riducule that their child will face. I pray for that child. I pray that dispite the irrationale of her parents, she grows to be a "normal" little girl with a healthy social life and not some confused human.
Cris, Louisville, KY
I don't know where to start! Thomas made the decision to become a man and went through all procedures (apart from the obvious) to make this so. He should stand by his decision instead of conveniently choosing to use his female organs as and when he feels like it. What a sick thing to explain to their daughter when she's growing up that "daddy" carried and gave birth to her . It's sad to say that she'll probably be picked on as she grows up because it's such an odd and unnatural situation - father's are not physically able to give birth! Why couldn't they have used a surrogate mother or adopted if they were so desperate for another baby?
Jackie, London, England
I just thought that for a transexual person to be considered a male (if they went female to male) they would also have to have the organs male as well. Anyone know the law. I don't care about passing judgement on anyone, I was just curious about the law.
Kris, Keozer, OR
This is beyond strange. It is morally and socially irresponsible and selfish. What's next, inseminating your dog because you can't concieve? I agree that if you decide on gender reassignment, then you give up all the things associated with your previous gender. People become desperate when they are not able to conceive. They resort to whatever means they deem necessary to have that child without fully concidering the risk, confusion, and ridcule their child will face. Not to mention the social position they have put their family in. Life is not about you alone. I pray for that child. First I pray that she develops normally and doesn't have a tramatic birth. Second I pray that she is able to be a "normal" little girl with a healthy social existance and not some lonely confused human because she will never know who her actual father is (he came from a syringe) or who her mother really is, or is that father?
Cris, Louisville, KY
wow! is fantastic
maria, connecticut, bridgeport
Boring. Why do people have to be so sensitive and embrace everything? It's like being the only girl in a room full of adolescent boys.
This person was born a woman,and decided to become a man,surely that person,following that decision,forfeits all the 'perks' of woman hood.
Weird is a word (of many) I would use to sum this story up. Mortified & disturbed are two others I'd wager the poor child will associate with his/her upbringing.
Ash, USA, TX
Actually, this sisn't the first time a transgender man would give birth post-transition. It's been done before. And the baby faces little risk of hormonal imbalance, He went off Testosterone 4 months before getting pegnant, in this time, his hormonal balance reverted to pre-transition levels, so the kid should be fine.
emily, Grafton, MA
Wonderful. The universe again creates magic.
Ed, Sydney,
As a lesbian who questions her own gender at points, I don't think Mr. Beatie should be doing this. It is a hazard to his physical and mental health. He chose to be a man and men don't have babies. There are certain things one gives up when going through with a sexual reassignment surgery, and the ability to have children is one of them.
Amanda, Massachusetts, United States
I would feel privilaged to be born with two loving parents. My own father wanted nothing to do with me from birth. I'm now 20 and my mother let my grandmother bring me up . This child is so lucky to be loved so much and wanted so badly, Iwish more children could say the same.
Natascha, Dover, Kent
I say more power to them. Having a child is the most amazing thing in the world and the fact that they can look past all the predjudices and still continue on their journey is great!! The most powerful people in a childs life is their parents and we teach what we want our children to learn. To judge and ridicule is an ugly thing. I wish them the very best!!
Selena Mahe, Rotorua, New Zealand
everybody has the right to have a baby who are people to cast aspurtions on what kind of parent she is going to be.good on you hope things go well in the delivery and wish you all the luck in the future your daughter will be a heart breaker in the future.good luke again and hoe to hear the outcome.
margaret hutton, bothwell, scotland
quoted: Providing the child is loved and cared for who are we to interfere or judge?
How many children are there around the world born into what would be regarded as "traditional" family units that suffer neglect and abuse. Why is the God that so many of these postings refer to punishing the children in this example?
AndrewC, London,
my say: i have to fully agree here as a mother of 2 myself i dont have a problem with this at all. so long as the child is loved and cared for thats the only thing that matters. alot of babies and children are brought into this world only to have life taken away too early by parents who neglect or abuse them. i wish this couple all the luck in the world.
Esme, Hamilton, New Zealand
Its natural to have a child beteween a man and a woman... NOT between two women o two men!
poor child!!!!
Danielle, San Diego, California
Who'd have thunk it? Really... Only in America. Beyond that I don't know what to say.
Larry, Stratford,
I don't know what to say...but...I think that I don't have also the right to judge....
Ejona, New York City,
"Doctors have discriminated against us, turning us away due to their religious beliefs. Healthcare professionals have refused to call me by a male pronoun or recognise Nancy as my wife. Receptionists have laughed at us. Friends and family have been unsupportive; most of Nancyâs family doesnât even know Iâm transgender"
Seems to me that they think everyone else is wrong and the they (parents) are right.....maybe it's the other way around. There seems to be a certainty on behalf of the parents their own peers and experts disagree with. I think they are a very confused couple.
Robert, Dublin,
Just to go back to a very early comment from Thom of Auckland, New Zealand, asking why there are so many of us Americans posting here - I can't speak for everyone, but I personally pop over here to get a wider coverage of international news and different perspectives. I have yet to see this story reported in the US media, for example. :) Many media sources (even CNN) are also very biased and don't report everything... a lot of the laughably-called "news" is celebrity gossip and sensationalist "exposes." The CNN comments section is censored and have moderators to pick and choose which comments to "allow"... I've tried to post three times and got rejected every time, but I've seen far more inflammatory and extremist comments than mine get posted.
Back to the article... congrats to the couple and I hope they have a healthy and happy life with their precious baby, which they are risking so much for. It takes a lot of courage to go against social norms like this.
Jina, Colorado,
If he/she wanted to have a child, why compromise your body and health to such limits. There are so many children in the world that would love to have loving parents to take care of them, ever heard of adoption? What's going to happen after the baby is born, will his breasts re-appear and fill up with milk? Oh the pain of it all!
Gina Wilson, St Petersburg, Florida
I feel sorry for the baby when its time for her to go to school. Kids will make fun of her because thats not natrual for the father to be the mother.
Adriana, Seattle, Seattle
Im not sorry for this child. It seems like this little girl will be raised with all the love and care any child needs... My baby cousin was adopted by a gay married couple and she is the happiest child in the world and they love each other and her very much... Its your right to have a child and to bear your own child. on the inside, he is built just like any other woman. Life is a miracle no matter how it is concieved. I wish the best to this couple and find it a noble thing that he carried the child since his wife couldnt, even around everyone who didnt know he was transgendered. I wish them the best of luck in the world. I have 2 children and they are a blessing. :-D
Christina, harrisburg, pennsylvania
Providing the child is loved and cared for who are we to interfere or judge?
How many children are there around the world born into what would be regarded as "traditional" family units that suffer neglect and abuse. Why is the God that so many of these postings refer to punishing the children in this example?
AndrewC, London,
Hmmm, "Woman is pregnant" quite the news story!
Planned pregnancy for stable, loving couple is a nice story but not really eyebrow raising!
How strange that I feel the need to write a comment about why I think this story really doesnt require comments!
Kat, Glasgow, UK
I don't understand his/her motivation to become a man... Perhaps she was lesbian, in which case, was the decision purely because she felt more comfortable conforming to the male/female relationship pattern? If she truly felt like a man, why on earth would she want to be pregnant herself? Wouldn't it be more appropriate for her partner?
I can imagine the hormonal effects of the pregnancy on him/her will be interesting...
Lucy, Essex,
There is no such thing as a nuclear, 'normal' family any more, and with the growth of genetic screening and IVF and other reproductive technologies, I am surprised at the amount of hostility this particular story seems to have generated amongst commenters.
Hearty congratulations to Mr Beatie and his wife - he has done a very selfless thing in using his reproductive ability to carry a child for her despite identifying as a man. It might take a bit of explaining to his daughter a few years down the line - but 'man, woman, daughter' is pretty conventional as modern families go...
Eleanor , Matlock,
I don't understand why everyone is concerned about whether or not he's a true man. The fact of the matter is, Thomas is pregnant and the child will be brought up in a loving home with loving, caring parents.
Of course, it's not a normal story, but that doesn't mean that it "should be illegal" (Mary, UK). It's really upsetting to me that people have such fear of aberrant situations and people. Although Mr. Beatie is putting his story out there, it doesn't mean that it gives us the right to pass judgment on him and his potential to be a great father.
Jamie, Princeton,
he only opted for this because of his wife's condition, it is clearly a unique case and he obviously deserves kudos for being brave enough to do this. To be honest i guess it is just a story of a woman giving birth with male sex organs and a male appearance... whilst it may seem slightly odd I guess we just need to realise that a. just because we hold our own opinions does not make them right and b. obviously we are simply lucky not to have had issues with the sexuality we were born with, unlike Thomas who thus became a woman. To Lamecia, you can teach your kids that its wrong but ultimately they will make their own opinions regardless of yours. I think this is brave and I hate the fact that just because other people feel differently (and I mean the receptionists etc who laughed at him/doctors who turned them away) they feel they should express this in such a negative manner.
V.P., london,
I wish them luck in the present and in the future however this is not a case of a man having a baby. This is a case of a woman that used medication and surgery to make her look and feel like a man is having a baby. I don't feel that they are unfit to raise a child, there are so many couples doing that already. I have seen single parents of both genders and I would hav to say that as long as this baby is raised with love and guidence she will be fine. I have also seen couples that are the same sex that they were born with and for all appearances being the typically nuclear family, that should have never had children or even pets. If a baby is brought into the world with love at the beginning, middle, and end then who am I to say that this couple shouldn't be able to keep her.
Shannon, Parker, PA
Not the Lifestyle I chose but hey, this is still pretty interesting.
Take that conventional thinking! Good on ya!
Matt Wilmot, pittsburgh, pa
I believe this is totally wrong. You should be happy with how God made you. And not change yourself. This is totally discusting and you honestly should be ashamed. God did not make man to bare children. (maybe that is why you were made a woman in the first place) if you wanted a child you shouldnt have made yourself a man! you were in the wrong there too. If you are affectionate for woman that is ur thing but it is not right to completly change your body. I just hope you realize what you are doing to this child. You are going to ruin her life. She is going to be known as the baby born by a man. In school everyone is going to be calling her a freak and i pray that nothing will happen to her because of this issue. Im truly sorry for this child.
SUZANNE, PHOENIX, ARIZONA
Good luck and best wishes. I'm sending positive energy to these brave people. The more we accept the variety of human experience, the freer we ALL will be.
L, Town, Canada
Is this the kind of double-propaganda the fascist who are running the current war put out, to increase the fear of the dreaded schizogenic society (total fantasy / scaremongering)?
I will admit that its a terrible burden for the child to have to grow up with. Kids are exceptionally cruel, and the pecking order is the harsh reality of the playground. If they believe they can make it work, fair play. You got to admit its an extreme case of thin end of the wedge. Taking into account the current modern obsession with 'shrinking Y theory'.
Many unanswered questions. From many different angles.
James, Huddersfield,
HOW MUCH of a man can she be, if she retained her vagina, uterus, etc? Surely if she was convinced she was a man, she would want to make that change final and complete, and undergo genital reconstruction?
Laura, London,
This article is inaccurate. He was never a "woman", and did not switch genders. Sex and gender are not the same things. Sex is biological, and gender is mental, social and emotional. Changing one's gender is impossible, hence the need for hormone therapy and sex reassignment surgery.
For those of you who say he is just "a woman who looks like a man"? That is not true. Do some research into transsexual people before opening your mouths. Being transsexual is very real. Transitioning and living as the opposite sex is no light matter, and for it all to be brushed away and dismissed as mere fantasy is insulting, not to mention frustrating.
And just because he was born female does not make him a woman. âManâ and âwomanâ refer to genders, and he is of the masculine one. SEX and GENDER are separate, and do not always align.
Finally, I wish the best of luck to his growing family. For a man to choose to become pregnant for a woman he loves is no easy task, and I applaud his strength.
Chris, Toronto, CANADA
I say good luck to them. As long as they love the child and each other, what else matters?
Helen, Loughborough,
Why is it that the second someone who is gay or transgender decides to have a child people become fearful or angry about the potential moral outcome? They protest the bullying the child might face or the troubles the world will now heap at their door.
Plenty of horrible parents have children every day. People with drug addictions, who physically and mentally abuse, people with mental issues that will make things harder for their offspring. Why do we suddenly feel the right to judge as soon as a gay or transgender person decides they want to have a child? This is utterly stupid and ignorantly biased.
If these people want to have a go at raising a family, I wish them the best. I'm sorry for them that the world is full of people who should spend more time reflecting on their own familial relationships than worrying about the neighbors'.
Erica, Chandler, Arizona, United States
I understand the decision to have a child.
I can conceptualize the decision to undergo gender reassignment.
Why on Earth would he/she want to make a international story?
Sounds very selfish...
Good luck kid.
Brian W., Los Angeles, USA / CA
Split a piece of wood, I am there. Lift a stone and you will find me! God is all around us and wihtin all of us. We all have our own God that we look too for guidence. "God" is our own tolerance and judgement toward each other!!! To all of you whom have shown this "couple" good will, love and happiness for the future, you have good hearts and good souls, be proud of who you are. To those of you who have left messages of disapproval and some that are rather disgusting to be honest, look to yourself and how you go about your daily lives. Are you quite sure that "your" God who you say would not condone such behavior would be overly happy with some of the things you do in your own life!! Do not judge two loving, stable people who are emotionally commited to each other and want to raise a beautiful little girl. There are too many people/couples who abuse their position as a parent, it is those vile people that will be faced with the wrong doing they have done when the time comes!!!
SMH, NW, UK
It seems to me that it suited her at the time to become a man, but surely if she really wanted to be a proper man she would have got rid of her reproductive organs. This sounds to me like a case of 'have your cake and eat it'.
I think the child will be told who actually gave birth to it, if not by it's parents then by some one else and what a devastating effect that could have.
Leave nature be........please
FRAN , Leicester, United Kingdom
I think and believe that it is wonderful. I mean he is showing his love and commitment for their goal(s) as a couple(family). If more people would be as open as they are our society would be a much better place to live for everyone. It's GREAT that his wife and he are not letting everyone elses stupidity get to them. I do not even know them and I am proud for them.
Renee, Mullins, SC USA
This is a story which concerns love. Perhaps the packaging is different than what most among us have encountered, yet the basic principle is unchanged.
I think if God (Allah, Yahweh) does exist and takes stock of human affairs, he must fret more about people hating rather than loving each other, even if the latter situation assumes an unconventional form. Please, let's not use religion as a weapon. I think such an act is rather more perverse than any reproductive acrobatics. Science and technology are facts, and there are six billion of us rubbing elbows with each other -- more than ever, judgment's a bad business.
(By the way, I'm 22 and grew up in liberal urban environments. Because I recognize how circumstance has shaped my beliefs, I do not mean to dismiss others' so long as they are honest and well-intended.)
Amy, London, UK
Additionally, being trans doesn't HAVE to be traumatic. It often is because of other people. Kids can thrive in many different circumstances, perfectly happily- their suffering and confusion begins when other children and parents tell them there's something "wrong" with them or their family.
I'd refer those who think gender isn't socially constructed to explore the story "X- A Fabulous Child's Story" to see how it works. http://trans-man.org/baby_x.html
Kitty Stryker, London, UK
Obviously, whatever the status in law may be, Mr Beatie is a woman, an XX female, and fertile. Gender reassignment surgery and hormones can only obliterate and cannot change the biological sex.
Maisie, Cambridge,
I have to say that this is selfishness in it's most extreme form. I read a comment that many kids who are born in the 'usual' way get picked on at school. However the parents of such children do not conceive the child knowing that they are giving the bullies amunition like in this story.
There comes a point in every parents life when your needs and desires might conflict with what is right for your child. Most adults without exception put their children first.
I fear that this is a very sad example of the I want it so I can have it society which we live in.
Elizabeth, Portsmouth,
I am all for a "live and let live" attitude and have no reason to object to a 'man' getting pregnant, but it doesn't stop the fact that this is still a little freak-show'ish. But whatever, if the child grows up to be a serial killer, it won't be on my shoulders so what do I care?
Andrew, Godalming, UK
A man is a man and a woman is a woman. No amount of cosmetic surgery will change this biological fact. Anyone who undergoes "sex change" surgery is deluding themselves.
Please stop referring to this woman is a man, she never will be one no matter how much she changes her appearance. Men don't give birth.
I have nothing at all against these people, they are free to do as they wish, but trying to persuade me that she is a man against all the evidence to the contrary is both patronising and insulting.
J Roberts, Manchester, UK
Come on guys...he's a woman that LOOKS like a man! There is nothing wrong with this it's not like it's a REAL man that's having a child .....that's impossible
Dionna, Jacksonville, North Carolina
I think you should make your mind up about whether you want to be a woman or a man. I respect people who decide to change their gender but in your case you want to have it all.
There are lots of couple who cannot concieve a child and they have to adopt or assume they cannot have children all together.. if you claim that you are a normal couple with the same rights than the others, do you not think you are contradicting yourself?
I hope everything goes well for you, but I hope this does not set a precedent, because in my opinion what you are doing should be ilegal
Mary, UK,
Lines of morality are being crossed and it is understandable that people with more extreme views are going to speak out as this is not a "normal" nuclear family. I am not sure how much of a father figure a transgender male is going to provide but only time will tell.
Jane, London,
As others have noted, Thomas is NOT a man. Since when did real men have natural periods? and from what???
Legally Thomas may have a male ID, but physically, anatomically, medically, Thomas IS still a woman. When a man with a penis gives birth, wake me up, until then stop hyping a non story of a confused and hormonally drugged woman getting pregnant!
Ken Hall, Barrow in Furness, UK
Is it really our business what others decide to do. I think it is wonderful that he did this for his wife. What a loving and selfless act. Our society has become so judgmental and I think that it is a shame. These two people obviously love each other as they have been together for a long time, which is rather unusual in itself, and commendable I might add. I just wish that their identity had been kept a secret since I believe their baby will be the one to suffer from the ridicule.
I think that we should all mind our own business and do what we feel is right in our heart. Way to go Mr Beatie.....God Bless you three.
Carole, Las Vegas, Nevada
This story does not seem particularly remarkable to me. A woman can have as many unnecessary operations as she likes, but as every cell in her body will still have two X chromosomes and no Y chromosome she remains a women, and, believe it or not, women have babies.
Richard Hudson, Munich, Germany
There was a man in Scotland who was convinced he was a tiger, and paid to have his skin tattooed with tiger stripes and his teeth replaced with feline teeth. Was he the world's first talking tiger?
I think a basic DNA test would establish that Thomas Beatie's chromosomes tell a different story: she is a woman, no matter how much self-mutilation and hormone ingestion she has been willing to pay for. That she has felt the urge to carry a baby despite all this "treatment" only goes to show that even expensive surgery can't wipe out basic sex-specific biological imperatives.
Andrew Kline, London, UK
I think this is a beautiful thing.
Anna, The Hague, Netherlands
Butch lesbian woman gets pregnant, this is not new people.
Get over it
Mat, London,
Man woman, woman man???!!!!!!! i think all that matters here is that their is a little girl on the way into this world with 2 parents who will love her dearly, i wish them all good luck for the future, and as for this gender issue, you should always be true to yourself, whats the point in living a happy life if your not??!!
Kaz, Grimsby, UK
The cynic in me senses chat shows, book and film. And I suppose the birth will have to be cesarian?
Ron, Milton Keynes, Bucks
Perhaps someone should think about the child, we all know how mean children can be and Thomas and Nancy Beatie's child will have no end of abuse which no doubt will cause psychological damage to the poor child as its mother is a man. I believe in freedom of rights and they can do as they wish to be happy , however it is not about them, its about the child they are bringing into this world.
Simon, Manchester, United Kingdom
Here we have the ultimate confusion.
Moore, Exeter, UK
One thing is clear is that Beatie and her/his partner haven't considered the implications of publishing their case. The social reaction, acceptable or not, will make no good to their daugher's development.
Javier, Barcelona, Spain
To Ken in Furness and Citizen in London:
Why, in such a tabloid culture, is this story so unbelievable? And why can you not understand it? If a woman has a sex change, she keeps her female organs as removing them would be unnecessary and she undergoes cosmetic surgery to look like a man to society. That's the whole point of the operation - to change the patient's appearance to the outside world to gain acceptance in the gender they feel right in.
And how is this pregnancy illegal? Last time I checked you didn't need state or medical consent to give birth. And how is the pregnancy in any way unethical?
Also, perhaps the couple tried to adopt but couldn't because of concerns from adoption agencies. And if you think they should adopt to help orphans, doesn' that mean everyone should adopt before having their own child? By your logic, we should house all the children without families before having our own biological children. That's absurd.
Jenny, Leighton Buzzard,
The child will have a terrible time at school ? why is that? other children mimic their elders in condemming what is abnormal or not. The only potential problem this child will have is with YOU. How YOU personally react to anybody with 'differences' can influence happiness in life- it is not other people who can make a child's life a misery but YOU. How we comunicate to our own children is key in ensuring the happiness of other children. We can have our views but do not condem - it achieves nothing but misery and sadness
A Mason, London, UK
well...I reserved my comments for after delivery! lets see whats going one here?
zeeshan, Karachi, Pakistan
she is a woman who is having a child, even though she's decided to call herself a man and took hormone therapy beforehand. remove all the female parts then she'll be a man and she wouldn't be carrying a child.
lydia, wilts, uk,
Um, I don't know what world Edmund Burke is living in, but the one I'm in has a lot of kids with single parents households, stepfamilies, gay parents and other "non-traditional" family makeups. I think the average kid with a nuclear family would be the odd one out.
Gender is a social construct. The more things happen that help people realize that the better, in my opinion. I think it's a shame that Mr. Beatie has had issues with medical professionals, who should know better than to treat anyone as a subhuman. It sounds as if Mr Beatie is taking the steps to have a healthy pregnancy, and should be respectfully treated as a parent-to-be, regardless of his gender identity.
Kitty Stryker, London, UK
In response to anyone who seems to think that this is against God's will - do you really think that anything can happen that isn't the will of the Gods? Do you conceive of yourself as that powerful, to change the will of an omnipotent being? Or that wise, to presume to know God's will? Everything is as the Gods will it.
Good luck to the couple, and I hope all goes well with the pregnancy.
Marianne, London,
I hope this does not turn out to be another "Pregnant Mr. Lee." Turned out he just wanted to see what people woule think and believe. If this is true, i hope "Thomas Beatie" has a safe delivery.
Natasha, Caribbean,
Do you realise that this means I could start an AMAZING business in Designer Martenity Wear for MEN!!! Wow, I can just see it happening.
Kim, London, England
My personal thought is changing gender cannot be easy for you and those around you who love you but you made that decision. By doing this you are going against that decision to be your true gender as you have said now it suits me i'll actually use the female parts of me to get what i want. Its a bit having your cake and eating it situation as if he truely saw himself as male, to have a child they could have gone down the route of adoption.
gabby, cardiff, Uk
He is human just like the rest of us. Wanting to pro-create is to be expected. He was born a women and even after reassignment surgery, he had kept his female reproductive organs. For those who doesn't understand what that mean,
it means he does not have a male genitalia/organs.
Our job is not judge. There's more pressing issue at hand, like hunger, poverty and the Iraqi War!
Maria, Alxandria, , Va
Congratulation! I´m very happy, that a man is able have a baby. Be pregnant is the most beautiful thing, it is a good experience.
Monika, Ãstà nad Labem, Czech republic
People, why so exercised over the issue of gender? It's just a question of orifices, and totally irrelevant. Just try to be understanding and non judgemental huh?
Janet, Cumbria,
who is going to play him in the inevitable movie? Arnold Schwartzenegger?
ben, roma, italia
blow fairness, this is just weird. were i the child ten years down the line I'd certainly be confused. inalienable rights of humans are available to all, that doesn't mean, however, that all should exercise them.
russell, durham,
Lamecia - yes, "the baby girl she will have such a hard time in life because she was carried by a man during pregnancy" absolutely - everyone knows that babies know exactly which orifice, and which person they came from - That's why adopted kids never need to be informed of their natural parents - they just know.
And Yes - "Kids will pick on her.... This is not normal. I will not accept it and I will continue to teach my son that this is not right." kids will indeed pick on her because of people like you.
Just remember - we reap what we sow - if you teach exclusion and disharmony, that is what you should expect to live in.
Stuart Learmonth, Bournemouth, UK
Well done and good luck to the pair of you. Ignore the sceptics and the idiots who havem't got an original thought in their head. Remember that some people don't find what you're doing odd, but inspiring. Courage!
Zarich, Buckinghamshire, UK
good on them... it makes me sick reading some of the comments from narrow minded people.. as for the ones that mention God.. WOW..you must be so perfect. To answer Alistair C, Gerrards Cross, UK - I guess they didn;t impregnate the wife as she had a hysterectomy years ago and if I right in thinking, after a hysterectomy, you will no longer have periods and won't be able to become pregnant as usually your womb is removed.
Anyways Congrats to the happy couple!! I sure the future will be anything you want it to be..
stuart, southampton,
To Alistair... His wife has had a hysterectomy, so I'd like to know where exactly they would implant an embryo...?
To Thomas and Nancy... Congratulations on your news. I hope your baby brings you all the joy in the world.
Jessa, Brighton,
I would not say that I am the most conservative of people, and I am happy to accept people as transgender. However I do find this particular predicament to be a little uncomfortable. As one of the previous correspondents said, if he was so happy being a man, then why on earth be pregnant? And why NOT go through with the whole gender reassignment and get the male bits into the boot? Good Luck to them, but geez, it gives me goosebumps.
Clare, Nottingham, UK
As a member of the Unitarian faith, I have been blessed to worship with transgender individuals who have helped me to better understand their challenging circumstances. This couple is lucky to be able to bring a new life into the world and I hope for them all the best. For those people uncomfortable with this notion, may you have the opportunity to really get to know transgender individuals so that you can find within yourself the capacity to connect with them on a simple human level.
And all are welcome to a Unitarian worship service--you will find the divine inside gay and straight and transgender folk.
Miriam, London, UK
I think how is he going to push the baby out!!
Emily, Manalapan, NJ USA
I don't know if this is right or wrong from a moral persepctive. I do worry that the drugs that Thomas Beatie has taken- notably testosterone- will have an effect on the baby- they must still be in his system or he wouldn't still have facial hair.
As for the statement that "Healthcare professionals have refused to call me by a male pronoun"- this is kind of weird- technically and biologically Thomas Beatie is still female - a uterus and a pregnancy are features of a female body and so biologically he is a "she". For the purposes of society, the law and lifestyle, Thomas Beatie can live as a man and be considered one, but from a biological and healthcare perspective the female pronoun is correct. His chromosomes and his uterus is still female- even if his personality/brain etc aren't.
V Jones, London, UK
Now I am tolerant of this, and if they can provide a loving upbringing for their child, then good, but that is not the point of the story. The main point of this story is that a man is pregnant. OK, so if he is a man, WHERE IS HIS PENIS??? What is the child going to gestate in, a lunchbox?
I have no problem with these to bringing a child into the world, so long as they pay for it and raise it properly to be a respectful and contributory adult, but I do object to the media falling for a totally bogus story about a woman who had taken some hormone pills and had her boobs surgically removed and been re identified with a legal ID of a male, but who, physically medically and anatomically, is still very much FEMALE.
What am I thinking? this is the same media that fell for Blair's blatant lies about WMD and the political and a-scientific IPCC declaration of the reality of man-made global warming facing us with an unstoppable crisis, despite the fact that we've been cooling for a decade.
Ken Hall, Barrow in Furness, UK
Everyone is entitled to do with their life, as they please (obviously law abiding) but i hate it when people critisize others for doing what they want with their own life. Its hardly affecting all those peoples' lives that are having a go, or being negative, let people live how they want to live. how can anyone deprive someone of having a baby? whereas if it was the 'wife' who was pregnant, and decided for an abortion, she would also get critisized? Let them get on with it, its going to make them happy, leave them alone! who cares what each and everone else believes in, god or no god, if they don't believe in it, they shouldn't be subject to the comments about what is believed to be right. A new life is to be brought into the world. whats so bad about that?!?
Laura, Sheffield, UK
It is absolutely repulsive. Unbelievable. Society is going down the drain. Poor children, what a terrible confusion. It is already hard to grow up, now have to explain that you have a father that used to be a mother but switched again to conceive her illegally and without ethical and medical consent. We are not only creating physical monsters accepting that everybody should have children, but psychopathological people. If this "couple" wanted to have a child, why on earth did they not adopt and help one of so many children in the world that need a home? In the name of freedom we are accepting too many aberrant situations, up to the point of no return.
Citizen, London, UK
To all those who have decided this man is a 'woman', I direct you to modern medicine and suggest you get some understanding of the subject on which you speak, rather than simply mouthing off on topics you clearly have no idea about whatsoever.
Transsexuality is a horrific condition to live with and thankfully its symptoms can be wholly dealt with in most cases with gender reassignment surgery. It is a condition where a person is one gender but appears to be the other and this situation can be remedied. However, as long as some ridiculous people continue to cling to the wholly incorrect idea that a person "must" be whatever gender you have decided they are, any transsexual person you meet is forced back into the hell they were living in before they got their life sorted out.
They don't ask you to justify your existence, and I am amazed you have the audacity to believe you have the right to do that to them.
Zoe Robinson, Manchester, United Kingdom
Crazy! If HE likes being a MAN so much - why is HE doing the most FEMALE thing there is - having a baby? Guess it's because HE is really a SHE, playing a game of "Let's pretend"! Almost laughable it's soooooo bad!
jenny, swindon, england
Go girl! or Go boy!. Whatever.
StBob, London,
I think it's brilliant! I love anything that challenges gender stereotypes in society.
Good luck to them both.
Rob, London, UK
i definitely agree with Jen.. weird and disgusting for me.. i cannot imagine if someone told me that the one who give birth to me is my father!! and my father use to be a woman.. and married to a woman which is my mom.. OH GOD.. i dont know how that baby will stand that fact later..
NN, melbourne, australia
The majority of these posts are congratulatory and tolerant, almost gushing. But let us be accurate and note that a woman has been surgically & legally altered: not genetically nor conclusivly. Recent "scaremongoring" re human-animal embryos was denounced as incorrect: let's not be incorrect by believing this woman-to-man myth.
Also, as almost every respondent has praised the gift of a child "no matter what the circumstances" I can only assume you are all anti-abortion... I won't hold my breath; I will just note the narrowness of politically correct toleration.
Ben, London, UK
Wow, I can't believe how terribly judgemental people can be. To me, it is simple, they wanted a baby. 'His' wife could no longer have a baby. So, the simple alternative was for 'him' to have the baby, seeing how he had the equipment to do so. I don't see this as wrong or immoral. I think if it is what these people want, then they have a right to it. They are not hurting anyone and as far as what their daughter will say when she finds out her dad was once a woman, that is for them to deal with, not us. If she is loved and protected by her parents, there is no reason to believe she will not be able to handle it. People need to get a life and get over their ridiculous judgemental religious crap. Just because you believe something doesn't make it true. I could be wrong, I make that acknowledgment freely, but I will not judge someone else's actions when they are not purposely causing hurt to someone else. Good luck with the pregnancy and my wishes for a healthy baby girl. :)
Jeanine, Hammonton, NJ
How is this news???? It is someone who is physically still a woman having a baby!!! yes I consider Thom an honorary bloke, hell he has more facial hair than me, but please do not attempt to turn this into something it is not. Thom with absolutely no offence intended (classic line) but in terms of what you are going through (minus the acquired meat and two veg) physically is no different to my girlfriend and pretty much every pregnant woman in the world...sorry chaps nothing new or amazing here!!! but congratulations fella a baby is never a bad thing.... and I think Steve is a good name !!
Steve Williamson, Manchester, UK
Why didn't they just impregnate his wife instead? Seems obvious really.
Alistair C, Gerrards Cross, UK
This story is a few days too early.
Ricky, London, UK
Leaving religious views aside, lets look at the facts. She is not a man, she was born female and this pregnancy is only possible because she is female.
This is not a story of a man being pregnant, but of a woman being pregnant. My only concern is that I hope that any medical treatment she has had to 'correct' her gender, does not have any adverse effects on the child.
P Flannery, Glasgow,
i think that this is fine, there are women with high testosterone and are rather manly and that is basically the same... i think that all narrow minded people should just grow up and let people be who they want to be!! people who say that this is "wrong", "sick", "disgusting" or anything else like that - these people are the disgusting people that create a lot of upset and hurt in the world because they cant respect someone else for who and what they are!!
michael, newcastle upon tyne, england
Put yourselves in the shoes of the child going through school and on into adulthood. All your pals have a mother and father - except for the occasional orphan, and even they will largely have adopting parents. This monstrous interference in the processes of natural reproduction has brought us firmly into the horrific living Hell of George Orwell's "Nineteen Eighty-Four".
Edmund Burke, Kingston upon Thames, England
This freaks me out. What on earth is good about such a mix up. and the main question is WHY do this. Why mix up genders. Why is it that some people dont want... men to be men and women to be women. Thomas Beaty is not a man so why is this news?
Joao, Lisbon, Portugal
I would like to say that i agree with a few comments, but i would also say that everyone one of us here have judged - wether it be positive or negative. unfortunately when its negative it stands out more. the person is still a women with women reproductive organs with issues in her life that have wanted her to be a man, she is not a man. essentially their relationship is a homosexual one. God does care about these people as should you and I but that does not mean he condones their actions. I am not perfect myself but try to live by the motto ' hate the sin but love the sinner' which sometimes can be hard and misinterprated as being judgemental and narrowminded. I tell you my mind is on the word of God and I dont live by what the world deems right but by God and if that makes me a judgemental person in the worlds eyes because i dont condone these sort of things then so be it. God is the ultimate judge.
Nikki, Durban, South Africa
Some are saying that if its meant to be God has done it - wrong - this was not a natural act of God (two people of the opposite sex conceiving a child) but an act of Science - Artificial Insemination...................
Nicole, Lake District, UK
I think that it is wrong and disgusting. hope the birth goes well and you would make a good father. However what would your daughter say when she finds out that her dad was a woman at one point??
Jen, bristol,
The argument that the "poor kid" will get picked on at school is totally invalid. After all, if we only had kids that wouldn't get picked on at school we wouldn't have kids with ginger hair, buck teeth, who wear glasses, are too tall, short, fat, thin etc etc. (No offence.) What matters is the child's parent's ability to teach her how to deal with being picked on. If they bring their daughter up with a strong sense of self worth she'll be absolutely fine. Good luck to them all.
Neil, Luxembourg,
I think you are both very brave, risking so much prejudice for what you want and believe in. I wish you well.
Lesley, Sheffield, UK
Unbelievably, breathtakingly stupid still-life of post modernity.
paul forsyth, Sydney, Australia
What is the difficulty?, if anything it proves that a gender reassignment operation do not change the biological status of a biological entity though the mind of a person can be 'reassigned'.
Men can not get pregnant, full stop... think about it.
There are men that look like women and women that look like men and even when we intervene with surgery we are unable to change the fundamentals. There is one exception - very rare - hermaphrodites.
Relax people, the world has not changed, we are just getting used to variety !.
And do not bring God into it, it has more important things to do - it probably does not think about these trivial things...
John, London, UK
Congrats man... nice to hear this. Hope the child brings all the happiness that you are looking for... :)
sasi, india, india
I say congrats!! Hope all goes well and everyone is healthy.
I believe that if they want this child this badly than it will be well loved and cared for. I do feel that this should not have been brought to the public, things that would not have been an issue before, will be now due to judgmental people. You now have to worry about your bussiness and the fact that it is public and there will be people that pick at you and disagree with you. Where as before no one would have known the difference other than a man appearing a bit odd around the mid section. ;)
best of luck to you.
Natalie, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
Congratulations and best wishes to Thomas and Nancy Beatie.
Chantel, Wales,
YOU go girl or guy!!!! you must really want a baby to keep your female parts If you want a baby that much? I think you will be a loving parent!!!! More power to you!!!! Congrats!!! and am happy for you!!!
Youwill be a great parent!!!!!
Karen, RN, Martinez, CA, USA
i think this situation is normal, we can admire Thomas, he loves his wife, they both used the only opportunity to have their own biological child and it is true as Thomas says that âWanting to have a biological child is neither a male nor female desire but a human desire.â But gender reassignement is another question, situation in Thomas' family shows us that in reality it is not wright to switch gender given by God from the birth, they could have no opportunity to have own children if Tracy did not keep her reproductive rights, this all may be is not by chance, this all is a sky-sign????? we should not go against our nature, for everything in our life we shall pay.
Fira, Shymkent, Kazakhstan
Most of the commentators on this blog are assuming that the parents will stay together to create a happy home environment. Let's hope so, but the statistics are against them, and then what for the child? Born to a transgender male and from a broken home. Sounds good - we should have more of it.
I would say "only in America", but who can say that with any confidence these days.
Martin, London,
Only in America
marcus, horndon on the hill, uk
Every child is a blessing, no matter the situation that the child is born into. I believe that is it wrong for anyone to say that it's okay for a man/man or woman/woman to live together and raise a child. I am sure that they are loving people, but research shows that children thrive best when there are an actual male and female raising them. If you check all of the scientific data available you will find that all of the debates stating that "I was born this sex, but I feel the opposite," are completely non-accurate. Everyone has a choice, no matter what. Most of these choices are made during difficult times whether abuse, neglect or divorce. Again it all boils down to choice, and hopefully we make the best choice we can. The choices we make everyday affect us here now and eternally.
A, Portland, OR
I don't disagree with the Beatie family. He is the father and she is the mother; he happens to be carrying their child. If they were a lesbian couple or a gay couple with a surrogate mother, they are still a family, and that cannot be denied.
I don't pretend that the Christian-Right comments don't offend me, because they do. But nobody asked for approval. This family isn't asking you to approve of them. They don't need it. This article is about sharing their joy and expressing something different but still amazing; any baby is amazing.
I don't believe anyone has the right to say what any god thinks or feels. I believe that hate is a disease. I believe that homophobia and trans-phobia and racism are diseases. Children tease each other because they are taught that it is okay; God cannot make the world revert to 1950 when things were "wholesome". The problems of the world cannot be solved by religion.
I do not agree with what you say, but you have every right to say it.
Anna, Surprise, AZ
I am so sick of having to be politically correct--come on
I do not really care if he or she has a child but I do care when the schools make my child try to accept 2 mothers or two fathers or a transgender mother/father but will not let the children say or discuss having a mother and a father (female and male born) I do not think the girl will be to confused because by the time she is in school all the not normal will be normal. The family of bibical times seems to be fading away and worldy views(families) are taking precedent. I believe these people will love and cherish the child, but I do not think the pregnancy should be all over the news. And to Destiny
yes we should stay out of their lives, but when they announce
it all over the news it becomes part of everyones lives!!
Joanne, Spokane,
if they are happy then who are we to judge im happy for them and wish them a happy life with there new baby the old saying goes if they like it i love it i dont have to take care of it. good luck and best wishes
lewonda, clark, county
No-one has a right to a child. A child is a gift. I have every sympathy for those unable to have children but if it is not possible they will have different gifts to use in other ways. What is happening to society that this sort of thing is allowed? Poor child.
The person carrying this child is not a man. It is a woman with the appearance of a man, who is living with another woman.
lydianB, London, UK
I think its sad that people treat him this way... You dont know what you would do unless you were in that situation... Its a lot like having a birth defect... It wasnt his fault he was born as a woman, just like a child who is born with a tumor or even conjoined twins... should they stay that way because that is the way God made them??? Now answer that..... Kids wont pick on her... . because nobody will know... people can be so rude and impolite, Its not wrong love is unconditional and he obviously loves his wife and they both want a child, so if you dont like it... dont look at it.... thats what i always say....
Bekah, Gwd,
I think it's actually pretty amazing what's happening to Thomas. I applaud him for his decision to have the baby since it was his choice to have the baby and i'm sure they'll have a loving and caring family. Best of luck!
sona, glendale, zimbabwe
I am happy for them both. I can tell that the child will be loved by Thomas and his wife. More power to them both. I hope they have a beautiful healthy baby girl and that their lives are full of happiness.
Kayla, Pa, United States
If his neighbors didn't know he was a woman before, they will now. Hopefully this will not have a negative impact on the child in todays society. I would also be concerned with the effects both long and short term of any prescribed drugs that were taken for and during transformation.
Amelia, Las Vegas, NV
Congratulations to the Beatie family!
Having two loving parents, especially ones such as Thomas and Nancy who have obviously endured a great deal of pain to be able to have this baby, is a wonderful gift to any child.
I would also like to applaud Teresa from New Jersey's comments, as she is absolutely correct: The world would be in much better shape if parents allowed children to accept others, instead of learning hate and prejudice at home.
Lorrie, Washington,
A child's parents could be blue gorillas for all I care!!!!!.....But if they love and nurture that child, that is the MOST important attribute a parent could have! I echo Jose from Madrid....Teach our children TOLERANCE and our world will become more peaceful. Love and embrace those who are different than ourselves, for those people are the truely strong
To the "self-rightous" Christians: Love thy neighbor! Your words and hate are very harmful to yourself and others. As you put out negativity, if WILL return to you thrice fold. I believe and LIVE by the words "Harm to None" and teach my children the same. Congratulations Thomas and Nancy
Tessa, Maple Valley, WA
Well now at least one guy knows how its like to be prego. For all of those people who are being unsupportive shame on you. This family did what they could to have a baby. Instead of another woman carrying the baby he/she is carrying the baby instead. I just wish men could actually carry a baby. So congrats to the family.
Raye, Watertown,
Regardless of what I think about this and this family, it's nice to see comments from American people who are SOO wonderful and non-judgmental. Can you sense the sarcasm?
Regardless of gender, of sexuality, of whatever!, they're still PEOPLE. And that in of ITSELF means that they deserve respect instead of calling them "weird people."
What makes ME sick is reading the comments left by some of the people who do nothing but judge. "Judge not, lest thou shalt be judged."
Nikky , Mobile, AL, USA
I would like to address Lamecia from Nashville as well.
As for the baby girl, she was carried by a WOMAN not a man. Thomas was born FEMALE and chose to be male. She changed her name legally to a MAN. Get your story straight before running off at the mouth.
It is your right to teach your son whatever it is you DEEM is correct in your eyes. But, there are many out there with only 1 or no parents. The baby girl will be lucky to have 2. Yes, people will pick on her because of the society we live in today, with people like you running around, it is no wonder.
They have been together for 10 years, and I'm sure that this wasn't an easy decision, but at least they have each other. That is all they need. If family & friends can't support them, then the Beatie's don't need them. For the doctors out there .. shame on you!!!
As I tell my daughter, if you don't have anything NICE to say, don't say anything AT ALL.
I wish the Beatie's a wonderful, safe delivery and a healthy baby.
Holly , Nashua, NH, USA
Congratulations, I am very happy that you could fulfill your dream of having a family. After all the difficulties you're facing I'm sure you'll make a special effort to raise a tolerant and loving person. We need more people like that in the world. All the best.
Martha, Greenville,
Leave these people alone and open your minds. It's not for anyone else to decide whether or not this family should have a baby and how it should happen.
Elizabeth, San Jose, CA
God loves everyone. Who are we to pass judgement?
Good luck to your new family and I hope everything goes well.
Christi, Tennessee
Christi, Knoxville, Tennessee
I tend to believe that all life is a miracle regardless of how it comes to be. Gina says that God is probably sickened because of this. Just because your ethics are offended doesn't mean that God's are as well, I'm pretty sure that the bible says God loves all his creations..my interpretation..regardless of race, gender, sexuality or regardless of whether it's a transgendered individual carrying a new life or not. I wish the family a happy life and a successful birth.
Misty, Brooklyn, NY
That's mental.
rach, reading, uk
No matter how you look at this ,no matter how you feel about this ,the child in question will be picked on at some point in life,It will be the hardest thing this child will have to face and understand as it grows and learns,she will probably need help dealing with it and these parents will have to also.But when you break down the barriers is this really that surprising with medical science and the things we can do with it ? LIFE WILL ALWAYS FIND A WAY .
James, Hillsdale, MI
I am still wrestling with the imagry of the plumbing.
A transgender male with the appropriate "unit coupling" to allow for insemnation?
And what about his wife, and their private life?
Please spare me the graphics. Some things I prefer not to know.
And what could Robert Ripley do with this?
I wish the child all the best, and her parents the wisdom and courage to raise her well.
Mike Best, GREENSBORO, NC, USA
Hey that's no fair, he's already a chick! I declare shinanigans on him! (or her)
Mark R. Lupfer, Gardena, California
I am sick of people always using their own concept of God in order to pass judgement on those that they themselves don't understand. God says he accepts everyone, so why can't we? In fact, he does clearly state "judge not, lest ye be judged." Do you think that you can pass God's judgement test? Based upon these comments, I think not.
Congratulations to the happy couple. May you have a very healthy baby, who brings you joy and happiness. I applaud your strength and resiliance. A lesson I believe everyone should embrace.
Nichole, Jacksonville, FL USA
i think its pretty neat.i think people should just leave them alone and get on with their own lives.
nicole jackson, weyerhaeuser, wi, USA
I'm not even going to bring God into this.
Forget tolerance. This is something the world as we know it is not prepared to deal with. We can't even deal with the color of a person's skin, much less this.
I believe this man (woman) has not received the appropriate counseling for his transgender operation. Why did he not completely cross-over to becoming a male? Why keep female organs? Was it because he wasn't 100% sure of his transgender decision?
My thoughts are going to the child - she will unfortunately have to bear the brunt of this foolish decision . No amount of love given this child by her parents will repair the damage to be done to her by society. People need to think beyond the nose on their face.
Linda, Nevada City, CA
Can't all the god-botherers go and bother god, and leave this guy (and innocent, Times-reading bystanders) alone? Who's to say that god, if he exists, isn't impressed by this progress?
Congratulations to Thomas both on his pregnancy and his generosity in having a baby on his wife's behalf despite his gender reassignment - a more Christian act than certain posters here seem capable of.
Aedan, Dubai, UAE
Whose kids will pick on their kid?? The kids that were raised by narrow minded parents that filled their brains with prejudice! And also, why don't you let GOD speak for himself, instead of hypothesizing what he may feel about the situation...When you die and go to heaven or hell, ask him then how he feels about it. Until then, quit judging others and leave the judging to God.
J, Winter Park, FL
I think it's unnatural for a man to carry a baby. I agree with lamecia, God would and most likely is sick by a man giving birth or a women who has partially changed into a man.
Gina, rochester, n.y.
To Lamecia - I don't agree or disagree with the procedure. My thoughts are to your statement that kids will pick on the little girl as she grows up. Why would anyone have to know she was born of a transgenered person? Whose business would it be anyway? Do you know all there is to know about your neighbors and friends? Are you positive there is not a child sex offender among people you know? As for me, I would much rather my child be exposed to this little girl and her family than a sex offender.
Nedra, Stillwater, OK
This is amazing and beautiful
I am sure they have a beautiful baby girl
aaaand Lamecia in Nashville, Quit being so narrowminded it's not you it doesn't affect you you should learn some tolerance...I really hope your son doesn't have to come to you someday to tell you he's gay or was born in the wrong body
Nikki, Portland, Oregon
I have tried for years to get pregnant without success. My husband has shared my heartache and I know if it were possible he would get pregnant for me. I think this is a wonderful thing. Love in a family is all that is important. Life is tough and people are mean no matter the circumstance but you get through it so much better if you have a loving family. The arrogant people who think they know how GOD feels about this is who I am ashamed of.
Darla, tampa, fl
i agree with Lamecia in Nashville! You were meant to be a woman. God created you. and that little baby will never understand the truth. May God direct the Baby to one day understand the Truth and the way to heaven, and be open to learn the truth and his word!!!! May God change your hearts and open your eyes and help you, since you must be so lost!!!!!
nicki, JAckson, usa/ mo
This is totally against nature and totally against God. I can't believe there are people who say this is none of our (society) business! What about a man who is passionately in love with little boys? Are we to turn our heads on that too because we are to mind our own business??? I feel very very sad for this child to have a woman who is sooo confused as part of their life.
Julie, Phoenix, USA
My heart goes out to you because of all the rotten comments you have to face---that baby will be so blessed to have two parents who love her and care for her. It does not matter who gives birth, what matters is the environment you provide for a child. You are a brave and courageous man and you obviously love Nancy so much to carry such a beautiful gift for her. God bless you and your family, and best of luck.
MM, Clarksville, MD
I completely agree with you Lamecia. Really, this child is being carried by a woman. The gender that God gave HER. We must not bend over backwards and except things that aren't right. I don't condemn them, for i am no judge. But God is the ultimate judge. May He give them and those who don't believe in Him, "TRUE" understanding.
Jason, Pine Bluff/Arkansas, USA
Congrats, I hope you continue to have a happy and healthy nine months. My thoughts and prayers go out to you and your wife. Apparently God seen you fit enough and ready to take on such an accomplishment.
Hazel, Lexington, Kentucky
I agree with Aaron and Mary. Your gender is what you are when you are born '. Tracey is pregnant! No biggie. Too bad she cant be a normal mother for her unborn child. I pray that God will protect the child from these weird people.
Sharon Alexander, sylvan lake, Canada
People need to wake up. This is sick. She will never be a man. Start looking to GOD more often and things like this will go away.
Shane, amarillo, tx
This family should be accepted, not promising they will. Everyone has their own views. I pray that this child has a loving family and that she has a good life but everyone gets picked on for the stupidest reasons and if one of my friends told me that she or he was carried by her father I'd think it's actually pretty cool.
Samantha, Cincinnati, ohio, usa
I would think, logically, that you relinquish your "God-given right" to be a mother when you reject being the gender God made you.
L, Omaha,
I think this is a said situation,they do this just for these reasons so people would talk aout them.They are not thinking about the baby what its going to go threw with
Butch teal, Hamlet , NC
I am too happy for them. If it was not meant to be then god would not have allowed it. Who cares if she is raised by two moms, two dads or by a mom and a dad. As long has that baby is healthy, happy and have two parents who love her/him. We need to judge those drug addict parents who bring babies into this world with out a care for them! Aim your concerns else where!
You have my blessing and god bless you both!
Love from Hawaii
Angela, kailua, United states, hawaii
I think it's okay to have a baby if you are a responsible, caring person/couple. How many babies are born from mothers/fathers who are drug addicts or abusers? Too many. So, you god fearing people take your narrow minds back to church and pray your kids will be different from you and understand what's really important for our future generations.
Tammy , Lone Tree, CO
Mary of San Diego, Lemecia Nashville, thanks for reinforcing the preconceptions the rest of the world has towards the American religious Right. I wonder, shouldn't Christians be preaching messages of tolerance (as some others have here) rather than hatred and bigotry as you seem to.
Good on them - as Kristen says, every human being has the right to bear children, not to be subjected to intolerance and opprobrium.
As an aside, can someone tell me why there are always so many comments from the States on the Times site? I'm not being vindictive, just out of curiosity. Surely you're not all expats?
Thom, Auckland, NZ
just crazy to call a female Mr. and a male Mrs. just because they've tried to twist life around to suite themselves.
warren garrison, marana, Arizona
It seems to me that this is an individual who has not yet completed the reassignment surgery as I understand it. So in actuality this is a pregnant woman for the purposes of the pregnancy. I hope they find a much wiser doctor's office to attend them during this time of such incredibly high emotions, because no person in ANY medical setting should be treated with anything other than respect and professionalism. My advice otherwise is to protect your child from tabloid scrutiny and get out of the media eye before and after she is born, otherwise SHE will be labeled a freak by our intolerant society. She, the precious and pure will be the one who suffers.
Ellen, Leesburg, USA
Isn't it strange how SHE wanted to be a man but then decides HE wants to give birth. I am so sorry this baby girl has to be raised in this type of living condition. This is not the type of family God had in mind when He created us. Mr. Beatie seems to be a tad bit selfish.
marilyn, California,
A woman should be a woman and vice-versa. God take pity on their souls!
Jennipher, Americus, GA
As long as they are good parents then all the best to them. If they want a baby this much and have endured the slings and arrows of the bigots then they will undoubtedly shower this child with love. What more can a child want than to be loved and well treated?
Martin, Wellington, New Zealand
I think that he could have kept it a secret.
Kairenn, PA, USA
God help us ,when we try to play God. How can you eat your cake and have it? Wonders will never end. May God have mercy.
joy, new york, NY
She is still a woman. She still has a uterus, 1 fallopian tube, a vagina, clitoris etc. She is a woman who had a double mastectomy (breast removal surgery). This is the type of result that you would get from a female bodybuilder taking anabolic steroids. Which explains the facial hair etc. In my professional opinion as a medical school student, My guess is that the child will be at great risk for birth defects. This would incorporate any birth defects associated with excess amounts of steroids or growth hormone. Giantism, cushings syndrome, turners (XO). etc.
jeff, pasadena, tx
I agree with Mary Its a very sick world!
Sharon Alexander, sylvan lake, Canada
Congrats to the Beatie family! I am sure that God will bless your family and may you have many, many years of happiness.
I would like to address Lamecia from Nashville for a moment. One of the main reasons kids are so cruel, and most adults for that matter, is because people like you RAISE them to not be tolerant of things that aren't "normal". Basically, whatever YOU deem to be different or "sick". Don't pass on hate and we have a shot at a better future.
Teresa, Bergen County, New Jersey
When I was a young boy, I used to think that mothers give brith to daughters and father give birth to sons.
Bruce, KL,
I see by the remarks from Lamecia, Nashville that the there has to be at least one bigot telling everybody else how God feels. How does this person know how God feels? Did God actually say to him/her "I'm upset."?
I hope they have a healthy child who will obviously be surrounded with L O V E ! And that's all that matters.
Victoria, BC
Adam, Victoria, Canada
I can't stand all the transphobia in the world. TOLERANCE, please. There're a lot of kinds of families and all are beautiful ones. TOLERANCE. Human is complicated. We're not man to man, woman to woman. We're not that simple. All my support for them.
A young homosexual from Spain.
Jose, Madrid, Spain
Lamencia, I think you are taking this way out of context.
jack, new york,
What makes a man a man. Is it his sexual organs? Is it the way a person carries itself? You can paint a apple orange but it still doesn't hide the fact that it is still an apple. You could tell other people look at this apple orange, but the truth is it just still an apple painted orange. Thats how i feel about it. He is still a women no matter how you cut it. so where do they get off saying a man got pregnant.
Aaron Johns, Fresno, CA,
A man that used to be a woman that is now a woman again for the duration of the pregnancy and then will switch back to a man to be the kid's father but in reality is the kid's mother. What a sick planet this is.
Mary, San Diego,
Good for them! I think all that matters is the baby is healthy and loved by 2 parents. That is way more than most kids get.
Erin, San Diego, USA/CA
CONGRATS to the Beatie family!
My prayers (yes I said prayers) are with you and your wife for a safe, healthy delivery.
While support from your family, friends, and community would be a wonderful thing, your focus is and should be on the family you are creating.
Everyone else should live their own lives, stay out of yours.
Destiny, Waco, Texas, USA
I feel bad and embarrassed. Just think of how upset God is...this is not how he created things. What do we tell our kids? They will be so confused. As for the baby girl she will have such a hard time in life because she was carried by a man during pregnancy. Kids will pick on her. Kids are hard on each other they pick on people that is almost perfect so just think of what she has to look forward to. This is not normal. I will not accept it and I will continue to teach my son that this is not right.
Lamecia, Nashville,
I say more power to them, every human being has a God given right to have a child.
Kristen, Lakewood, Wa/USA