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A married man who used to be a woman says that he is pregnant and will give birth to a baby girl in July.
“How does it feel to be a pregnant man? Incredible,” wrote Thomas Beatie, 34, from the Pacific North West of the United States, in the latest issue of the gay magazine The Advocate.
“Despite the fact that my belly is growing with a new life inside me, I am stable and confident being the man that I am.”
Mr Beatie was born female, named Tracy Lagondino, but had gender reassignment surgery and is now legally male and married to a woman.
He decided to carry a baby for his wife, Nancy, because she had a hysterectomy years ago. He was able to get pregnant because he kept his female organs when he switched genders.
“Sterilisation is not a requirement for sex reassignment, so I decided to have chest reconstruction and testosterone therapy but kept my reproductive rights,” he writes. “Wanting to have a biological child is neither a male nor female desire but a human desire.” The couple, who have been together for ten years, run a custom screenprinting business in Bend, Oregon, where neighbours do not know that Mr Beatie was once a woman.
“Our desire to work hard, buy our first home and start a family was nothing out of the ordinary. That is, until we decided that I would carry our child,” he wrote.
Before becoming pregnant, Mr Beatie stopped the testosterone injections he was receiving as part of his gender reassignment. “It had been roughly eight years since I had my last menstrual cycle so this wasn’t a decision that I took lightly. My body regulated itself after about four months and I didn’t have to take any exogenous oestrogen, progesterone or fertility drugs to aid my pregnancy,” he wrote.
The couple bought donor vials from a cryogenic sperm bank and, facing resistance and prejudice from doctors, resorted to home insemination. “Doctors have discriminated against us, turning us away due to their religious beliefs. Healthcare professionals have refused to call me by a male pronoun or recognise Nancy as my wife. Receptionists have laughed at us. Friends and family have been unsupportive; most of Nancy’s family doesn’t even know I’m transgender,” he said.
Mr Beatie’s first successful insemination ended in a life-threatening ectopic pregnancy with triplets that required surgery, resulting in the loss of all his embryos and his right Fallopian tube. “When my brother found out about my loss, he said, ‘It’s a good thing that happened. Who knows what kind of monster it would have been?’,” he wrote.
The second pregnancy resulted in a baby girl who is due to be born on July 3. “I will be my daughter’s father, and Nancy will be her mother. We will be a family,” he wrote.
Mr Beatie would not be the first transgender man to give birth, according to Lisa Masterson, an obstetrician at Cedars-Sinai Medical Centre in Los Angeles.
“A transgender man can be pregnant because he has the same organs as a woman,” Dr Masterson said on the ABC Good Morning America show.
Dr Masterson said, however, that transgendered men face special health risks resulting from their sex change. “It’s really important that he doesn’t take any testosterone early on in the pregnancy and later on,” she said. “That can cause male-type characteristics in the female baby.”
Some of the Beaties’ neighbours in Bend voiced scepticism about the pregnancy claim. One resident, Josh Love, told ABC: “I couldn’t say that he looks pregnant. I can stick my stomach out and almost make it look like that. I think it’s kind of bizarre. I don’t know if I believe it or not.”
The Advocate said it had confirmed the story with Mr Beatie’s doctor.
first off Mr.Beatie is not a "she" by any means. granted he was born a female but when he got the sex change he became male and even though he kept his female organs, he is still a man. i think it is a wonderful thing that he is doing for his family. so people need to stop judging him for doing this
Amber Falscroft, Michigan, United States
I think it is disgusting. When she chose to be a "man" then she gave up her right to have a baby. You can't go back and forth. If she wants to be a man, and if your "wife" can't get pregant then adopt. It is immoral and unethical.It's very confusing for children to see a "man" pregnant. Not natural
Jennifer, Reynoldsburg,
I think it's a beatuiful thing that thomas beatie is having a baby besides yall can't judge him yall don't know what it feels like to not be able to have a child so stop judging him only god can judge him no one knows what it's like to be turned away by doctors and nureses im happy for mr beadie <3
Ashley, Morgan City, united states
While I see nothing wrong with someone wishing to be a parent and give birth I still think people are getting off course on this one. SHE is not a pregnant man. She is a pregnant woman doing what many other LESBIAN COUPLES do to have children. I guess the idea of a pregnant man sounds more salacious
Missi, Kentucky, Unites States
I dont see anything wrong with the thomas beatie carrying his own child. The child will be brought up in a mother father enviroment. You get children being adopted into two woman or two men households, so whats really the difference? Plus thomas beatie isnt the only one, there is many more.
katy, glasgow,
he is not a man if HE was a man HE would not be able to bear a child so basically every1 is blinded by the situation pretend all you want this is not a man if he can carry a baby he wants to be recognized as a man while giving birth ? something that only woman can do - thats an oxymoron
lucia, bronx,
All you people get a life!!!!...especially the one that says this incident is a BLESSING!!!...r u kidding me, which Bible you read that says this kinda thing is a blessing!!...i am sure Jesus Christ did not say that!!!...the only thing this shows is that the world is coming to an end soon!!.
Bola, Hawai,
If my husband could have carries our babies- more power to him! This is a REAL man to take the weight (literally) and swollen feet for his wife! Whomever has objections- call me when YOU are 9 months pregnant and in full labor and talk about what's 'right' and what's LIFE.
Erin, High Point,
Amazing. Absolutely amazing. Can you even fathom the strength it took for him to carry this child, knowing the ridicule he would have to endure? Despite his family, his wife's family, doctors, receptionist. . This man is going to bring a new and beautiful life into the world. What a blessing!
Ellen S., Prescott, AZ, United States
At least they are able to enjoy he pregnancy of their baby and not have to lokk elsewhere for a carrier, it's 2008 for pete sake. Sure it;s unusual but who gives as long as the end result pleases the family.And shame on the immediate family for no support. Focus on the baby,not the pregnancy.
tracy, knoxville, united states
I'm curios. Can ANYONE here tossing about comments like 'this is a woman' and 'he's actually a she' claim to know the slightest thing about transsexuality? Have you read any reputable definitions or information? Are you familiar with any of the social theory? The psychological research? The biological research and evidence from post-mortems? Anyone?
Are you reacting with fear and disgust because youâre done youâre research and genuinely cannot understand, or because you cannot be bothered to understand?
Until you know about what it is youâre discussing, could you consider not being so down right rude?
And to the bible thumpers, is the bible pick and mix now days? Because Iâm sure I remember it saying âjudge not lest though be judgedâ.
John, bedfordshire,
Every human being has an inherent freedom to make choices regarding to their own life, as long as they don't harm others and are responsible for their actions. If Thomas, who has complete rights and freedom over his own life, chooses to be a man, then everybody else must respect his choice, just as we must respect people's election of a house, a partner, a place to live in.
It is surprising and disappointing how people in a professional environment do not behave according to the values they claim to have. A doctor is free not to do this or that procedure, but they must treat every patient with respect, and they are showing an incredible amount of disrespect and intolerance toward Thomas and his wife by not respecting their choices.
I want to show Thomas and Nancy my support and wish them the best.with their baby, their marriage and their lives.
B. A. Vazquez, Monterrey, Mexico
This act will be looked down upon in any society or religious sect. But more than that I am concerned for the innocent child that is going to come into this world. A child that will have to face ridicule and negativity simply because of the choices his parents made? I respect the fact that we are different individuals. But I cannot understand why adoption as an option that could not be looked into?
However I believe it IS courageous of both of these individuals and I wish the innocent child well.Beacause it is unnatural and against the laws of nature.
Amna, CA,
This is an example of our society not willing to see things as they really are. Just because someone is gay doesnât mean that she can just say, âIâm a manâ and then she becomes a man.
A black man canât just say, âIâm a white manâ and then he becomes a white man. A giraffe canât just say, âIâm an elephantâ and then it becomes an elephant.
Just because this woman said, âI am a man. I have reduced my breasts, I take medicine that makes hair grow on my face, I changed my name, and I have sex with womenâ that doesnât make her a man. It just makes her a troubled, confused, gay woman.
Her troubled and confused state of mind is evidenced, by her interviews as she works for her 15 minutes of recognition.
But what is unfortunate is that the media is complicit in the lie.
The pathological liar tells her lie so much that she comes to believe the lie to be the reality. The truth can stare her right in the eyes and she psychotically believes the lie.
Are those that are promoting this story of mental illness by supporting the false reality as the true reality, any more honest? Or, do they just want the story to be true so much that they are willing to become pathological liars themselves?
Charles
Charles, Salt Lake City, UT, USA
I applaud Mr Beatie in what he is doing in order for he and his wife to have a family. I mean who are we to judge them. Only God has that right and I think all you people with your negative vibes should take it elsewhere because your opinions wont change the fact that he is pregnant. It goes back to the ld saying, " if u cant say anything nice, dont saying anything at all"
Mr Beatie, I wish both you and your wife the best of luck and I hope you born a healthy baby girl.
karimah, Bridgetown, West Indies
To be honest I was super surprised when I heard a man having a baby but less surprised when I heard he was a Transgender.I think its a really special thing that they would have the courage to face all of the world anoucing that he would carry this baby for his wife so the could have a family.Their love has to be soo extremely strong to face everyone and all there judgement.The ppl judgeing probably have spouses that are cheating or they dont have the relationship thats even a smidge close to what they have.If your going to bring GOD into it then you also do what he says "Thou shall no judge" its not our place.Gods the ONLY one that can judge us. Who the hell are we to say Thomas and his wife cant have a baby they way they want.
Rosanna, YORBA LINDA, CA
I feel sad for people who are afraid of something that is a little different, outside of the "norm." The way I see it, Thomas is a loving husband who wanted to help his wife have a child when she was unable to do so. as for the child, children are borm open to new things, naturally accepting. The child will adapt well, as long as it has loving parents, no matter what the configuration. It's only later in life that hate a predjudice is learned.
kathy, Iowa City, IA
Well, if that don't beat all! One of my concerns would be how the parents go about explaining sexuality and reproduction to the child down the road. This is really the ultimate case of having your cake and eating it too. "Mr." Beatie decides she's not really a woman and does the ultimate renouncement and alters her biology in order to mimic a man but in a pinch determines that it's acceptable to fall back on her innate reality - how convenient is that? Obviously "Mr." Beatie is a woman at her core, regardless of her attempt to become a man, it appears that she's likely a lesbian and putting on the facade allows her and her lover to live without harrassment from homophobes. Good luck!
Danarene, Lake View Terracce, CA
It's very easy to judge when you know you were born in the right body. Have some compassion for those who weren't. It's more difficult and traumatic than most can imagine.
Bill, Indianapolis,
This is definitely not acceptable. I find this apalling and America's embracing acceptance is disgusting. She needs to realize that she is still a woman retaining no natural rights to being a male. Having been born without a male reproductive organ, she is therefore a female and re-creating her pseudo-manhood is an insult to males in the first place. This pregancy should not be publicized as it attempts to undermine the uniqueness of female identity and the miracle to procreate making it seem possible for anyone to bear children. This is not the case! She has even denied herself natural bonding by not being able to lactate. A woman who desired man qualities should NOT expect to "bear the best of both worlds". I am not impressed with her hormone therapy. The bearded lady at the circus isn't a man either. A simple anatomical examination would disprove her altar ego of a man. It is simply ridiculous. I pity them both for they are lost, and I fear for the child.
Nicole, Phoenix, AZ
I think this is way to much for her/his body and it could be to much for the child now and not to mention in her future. Unfortunately not everyone has an open mind and I know she will go through a lot of unwanted comments from schoolmates and neighbors. There are so many babies out there without parents in need of adoption. That would have been a better solution for them and no boby would have ever found out he was a she and he/she wouldn´t have any health risks.
Arianna, Distrito Federal, Mexico City
Who cares? The oceans have become toxic slime pits. There are PCB's (which cause cancer) in everyone's fatty tissue. Our economy is about to collapse under imperial war. This article should have been about planting a garden. We need to get a handle on our consumption or Mr. Beaties kids will have nothing to eat.
Louis, Almsville, Or
There is nothing wrong with Beatie having a baby! He was born a women and a women has the natural ability of giving birth! If he wants to put out as a man having a baby so be it b/c ironicaly he is b/c he is transgender he was born a women but was a man in heart! It is also nice that he would give up with no one ever knowing about him ever being a women and let it out just so him and his wife can have a baby that is a loving devoted HUSBAND! I think it is great!
Stacy Rasmuson, Elmore City, Oklahoma
Thomas Beatie can legally be called a man because she removed her breasts and takes male hormone. This might be enough for him to fool himself...however, everything about his "manliness" is fake. His beard, his penis, even his name ironically the only thing real about him is that he has female reproductive organs. He was born a female and inside is still a female...no matter what she wants to be on the outside. So to say that she is a pregnant man is deceiving only to her. She is merely doing what her body was naturally design to do as a woman "GIVING BIRTH"
sannira , houston, tx
I think it's great! Thomas Beatie is right about neither woman or man wants a child, but a HUMAN. I think this is a great story to tell. The world gives us our own perspective on how we see "giving birth" is a woman's duty! But I'm actually happy that something like this came up. I was just talking to my husband the other day and I told him that ONE DAY the world is going to change and there will be "men giving birth". Let it be fair for all mankind. =) Have a safe labor Thomas Beatie! My best regards to you!
Julieta, Oakland, CA
First of all, Beatie is a man. Stop referring him as 'she'. He transgender, so what? His body is a woman's but *he*, the real him is a man. Beatie is not a freak, and it's perfectly fine for him to be pregnant. He just acting like a human being, with his desire to have a child that he can raise and love. Regradless of sex and gender, a birth is a wonderful thing to all people. All parents are like that, regardless if they are male or female. They all love thier children. So his wife can't have a baby, and he's volunteering to have the baby for her. I think that's awesome. And to you people who think it's wrong, or he's a weirdo and all, you stop being to ignorant and self-center. Open your eyes and start trying to see more than just your small little world. While the media has made this into too big of a deal, I doubt he really wants all that attention and stress when he's pregnant.
Helena, Baltimore,
What I don't understand is how 'he' can be officially classed as a male when he still has female reproductive organs and the ability to carry a child? It's not so much a man carrying a child as a woman with a beard, there's nothing so extraordinary in that.
Rachel, Norwich, UK
It is his life and he can do what he wants. If it makes him and his wife happy then go ahead and do it, all power to you. Dont listen to what others say cause they will always put you down to make themselves look and feel better.
Nicole, Columbiana, U.S.A./ AL
I know you've got some haters... but whatev. This is a great thing you are doing for your family. If you are religious person, God will not hate you. Guess what all you christians, your God is supposed to be an all loving, and also, FORGIVING (if this is even considered a sin?) God. Personally I am not Christian but I hate watching all these crazy Christians trying to force their beliefs on you. How do we know that âgodâ didnât have this family in mind⦠ugh, these people make me want to hate religion in general.
Good luck to you, and hopefully these people will not get to you. Honestly, they are not in the situation⦠and youâll be much greater parents than most. Some Christians would rather have a man who beats his wife, and the wife is crippled with depression and cannot leave, because, that is the family structure that, âgodâ intended. Right. What a freaking joke.
Much love from Minnesota =)
Lilly, Minneapolis, Minnesota
Many comments on this page have said something about god, and saying that men should not be having children...well just to let you know, he was born a woman, and though he may look like a man, he is a woman. Just because he wanted to appear as something else on the outside, doesnt change what he is on the inside. I believe that we all have the right to do what we want with our lives, and i understand the desire to have your own children, and i believe that if this family wanted to have their own kids, then so be it...leave them alone and let them live their lives the way they want too..no one is judging you for your day to day choices..so why judge them?
Ashley Smith, Cooper, Texas
I think that every single being on Earth should be able to do whatever they choose. It's not your job to judge people on how they want to live their lives.
If you were Thomas Beatie, I am sure that you wouldn't want someone to make fun of you because you've decided to have a baby. Keep your opinions to yourself because you shouldn't be criticizing someone who is...different from everyone else. They might not be perfect but they are allowed to have a baby if they want...even if he is a man.
Nicole H., Bend, U.S.A./Oregon
I don't believe that one has to chose to be strictly either male or female. Human sexuality is naturally varied and fluid. I think Mr. Beatie and his wife are doing a brave thing to refute the unnecessary gender dichotomy that rules our society. I wish the best for their family and that they are met with the tolerance every human deserves.
Claire, Los Angeles, California
I am a pretty religious teen, and I understand that "if God meant for men to have children, he would've made them that way" or whatever. But I also understand that only God can judge you. If this man (woman?) wants to have a baby, then who the heck cares? Mind your own business. Let God handle it however he wants to handle it. You're not perfect, and I'm sure you've sinned once or twice. Sure, I don't necessarily agree with this. But who are we to tell this person how to live? They're going to live however they want to live, regardless of what we have to say!! So just relax, breathe, and let God handle it while you take care of your own life!
Alyssa, Buda, USA/TX
A miracle, please! The only miracle will be if this child has any chance of a normal life. How is this child going to feel knowing her so called father had her. If men were to have children the lord would have made it that way. There is nothing special or sacred about this, it is sick and twisted. All I have to say is that if you really wanted to have a baby then you wanted to be a woman therefore, no need to be confused and go through a sex change.. Some one, as in you Thomas Beatie, is still looking for attention. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Heather-Northern Virginia
Heather, culpeper, virginia.
This human being doesn't even know if he/she wants to be a man or woman. Psychological treatment should be in place before getting pregnate
Gustavo, Brazil,
I am just glad that its not my place to judge other people on what they do. I try to live my own life according to what I believe to be right. Live and let live. I believe in alot of things that correspond with the Bible even though no one can prove it was God who dictated it to the prophets. But if you believe it to be so, than you know that only God has to right to judge people.
Anyhow, I did want to say to Cindy in Jamaica that as far as gays saying that it is right.& you don't think so because if it is right they shouldn't have to spend their energy convincing the world that this is so. Well....a while back, the blacks were spending alot of energy trying to convince the world that slavery was wrong and then segregation.
Tracy, Deltona, USA/FL
From creation a woman should bring forth a child and not a man and if you change from woman to a man then you should not be having a child. I think this is sick and gays keep saying that it is right. I don't think so because if it is right they shouldn't have to spend their energy convincing the world that this is so. This is evident that the coming of the Lord is near. Everyone is entitle to their beliefs and I think that they are forcing others to believe as they do. Take the ultimatum that the Canadian gay right place on Jamaica. They cannot force people to accept what they don't want to. I will never accept this as normal and even if the Jamaican Government accept this a majority of the population will not.
Cindy , Kingston , Jamaica
Thomas you say this is a "miracle". Can you please explain when it became such a miracle for a female to have a baby?
mja, Clinton, USA
I think its a cool thing and that he has more respect for women then some men do..
Amy, East Syracuse , NY
Why is this woman being represented as a man?
Neil, Gloucestershire, England
I am happy for them. But i would not call this a male pregnancy. Men do not have female reproductive organs.
Arleene, Montour Falls , USA NY
I am very happy that this man is able to live his life the way that he wants to. Some people think that they are trapped in the wrong body when they are born, a man thinking that he should be in a womans body or vice versa, isn't uncommon whatsoever. I think that it is fantastic that they are able to be open about it and share their story with the world, America, it's time for a wake up call to all of these people who are so closed minded. People deserve to be what they want to be. Everyone is entitled to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and if you want to take that away, thats just wrong.
Whitney, Clinton, Maine
This 'male' pregnancy is very strange, but just because something is on Oprah doesn't mean that it's being 'forced' on you. Who turned on the TV? I wouldn't do this myself but it's their business and if people are upset by it or don't know how to explain it, I think that's their problem. I'm sure it's not going to become that commonplace. There are a lot of things in this world that are going to be difficult to explain to my 2 year old son, but kids just roll with it - it's adults that have more difficulty.
pete, austin, tx
I know everyone has there stupid comments to say about this and yes they are stupid who cares what our generation are going to think if men can get pragnent you know something you are nieve if you think that kids growing up wont know if they are gay or bi or even wanna be transgender and when I adopt kids they can be who they want but when I raise them I raise them how my parents raised me. They never raised me to be gay so I will not do the same for them. They are there own individual. I think it is rather awesome that a man is pragnent it will give us a chance to see how painful it is to give birth then the women. Also I think that he will be a great father and his wife a very good mother and no one has to say that they wouldn't be you should stop trying to judge someone cause you don't want to go to hell cause i know most of you are Christian after all. EVERYONE has the right of LIBERTY and the PURSUIT of HAPPINESS in the United States of America so leave him alone and at peace ok.
Chris, Morris, IL
I am thoroughly dissappointed in many of those who have commented on this article. America is a country that prides itself on diversity, so what business is it of yours to judge a man and woman who wanted nothing more than to have a child of their own? I, for one, am proud to live in a country where a transgender man feels comfortable and safe enough to carry a child.
I wish the Beaties nothing but the best, and hope they have a wonderful life with their new baby girl.
Meagan, Lindenhurst, NY
I think it is cool..Who's to say this isnt the way things were at one point in time? If things werent this way then certain living things wouldnt be able to reproduce a sexually. The way I look at a family is it doesnt matter where the child is from as long as his family loves him no matter what. I think every man should have to carry a baby at least once so he can understand what we go through as women.
Darci, New Carlisle,
Why is god mentioned so much in all of this?? Are we really a society that has centered our own moral judgement on a book? Ok so go with the "god" theory just for a moment..It is said that woman is to give birth right?? Well was this "man" not born a woman?? Well there went that argument huh?Now we can argue the transgender subject,to all the straight god fearing people one question...What would you do if you woke up tomorrow and all of a sudden it was "WRONG" for you to love your spouse? Could you change the way you feel inside just like that? Then why is a gay or transgendered person expected to do so?? I am a bysexual woman so yes I feel I have the right to say just who the heck do you think you religious people are to tell us what we should think or feel?? Don't we live in America and have the right to choose? Why do we[gay and other people]have to live your way just to make you feel more comfortable?? If you really believe in the bible and read it you wouldn't pass judgement!!
Linda, Largo, Florida
oh come on now who are any of us to judge these people? they are not hurting anyone they wanted a family and it is their right to have one, as long as the child is loved and cared for properly let them get on with it. we should be worrying about all the abused and neglected children out there!
dee byrne, erith, england
i wish them the best in all they do, i to hope that the baby girl is healthy and happy , i'm sure the baby will be loved beyond beift by her parnets.
tina, syracuse, new york
To Victoria Mai,
Whether you are comfortable with this story or not, everyone has a right to their own opinion. Everyone has a right to live your life the way they like. If your neighbors, your co-workers, or just plain strangers are offended by how you live your life, that's a problem they must absorb. No one should have to hide parts of their life because other people will be offended. Everyone has some aspect of their public life that bothers someone else. By choosing to live in the world with others in a society and if we are lucky a community, we taken on the responsibility of accepting others despite whether or not we approve of their difference if we want to foster a community/society that accepts us.
A. K., San Francisco, CA
I think it is just WONDERFUL!!! This world needs a good wake up call...we are not living in the 1900's anymore...we are strong minded individuals who have rights to do what we want and change what we see fit and no one should take away from anothers right to make that CHOICE for themselves..turn the table around..how would you feel if you were in their shoes...they simply wanted to have a baby..and thankfully he/she was able to accommadate that for their family!
Keeping it real....I to have was once a woman and I had a complete change but if I had the opportunity to finalize that chapter in my life for my wife, I would not even think twice about having a baby.
Tim Bolden, Atlanta, USA/Georgia
I really think that this put an interesting aspect on human nature. So many women in the world today struggle with pregnancy and child birth. How many MEN would actually be willing to carry or even consider carrying a baby for their spouse? This is a pure example of how much emotion is truely envolved in love. I seen on another comment that this couple is forcing there beliefs on the spectator on account that they seen this story on T.V. If you don't want to watch it, turn it off. There is no force involved. It is free will to watch television as it is to share your story with millions of viewers. I really hope that this couple has a healthy child and I wish them the best. It really shows strength to be able to stand up in front of millions of people and face controvercy. Are you that strong?
John Watts, Scottsburg, IN
How sad that in today's day and age, people are still governed by judgemental pregidise towards their fellow human beings. Yes, it is new to see a man pregnant, but why not? I bet there are many man who wish that they could experience the miracle of carrying a child, and many women who wish their husbands would take on the burden of childbirth. We live at the time, when if you would like to be a man instead of a woman (and vs versa) you can. So WHY NOT? and WHY dear Victoria Mai should a woman be FORCED to give up her reproductive organs if she chose to look and act like a man? Should society force you to give up her reproductive organs becuase you wear pants instead of a skirt and cut your hair short? Where do we draw the line? or would you like to go back 300 years wher women had no rights at all, and were the property of a man to do as he pleased?
Wake up, start acting like a human being! We live in a new world, where boundaries are pushed with new possibilities, and freedoms.
Victoria Sosinski, San Jose, CA
God bless them, and their little girl, too.
Shame on all of you for thinking you're better, smarter, more holy, more moral, more privileged. Shame on all of you who think it's wrong, immoral or that you 'shouldn't have to hear about it.' It's about time that more people are having to face our biases regarding gender and sexuality. "Where will our society end up if this continues to happen?" Perhaps, more tolerant, more open, more loving, more accepting, more mindful of its own business. Perhaps instead of being rigidly defined by ideas of gender, we'll start considering the internal character of individuals, rather than their external qualities. What a blessed world that could be.
The bottom line is this: a child will come into this world with love, care and protection. She has a tough road ahead of her, but the rest of us need to grow up, get a life, and be thankful for all that is.
ML, Denver, CO
About this case I don't really have a solid oppinion. But why should I have one? The world IS changing, and no good can come from fighting against what the future brings. However good or bad, some things are just here to stay! Let's face it and try to make the best of our lives, as human beings, in this common construction. It is up to each and everyone of us to make a real effort to (at least) try to understand what's going on around us and deal with it in an intelligent and human way.
It is true, we are all sellfish! But maybe (if only everybody could make an effort) mankind could stop pointing the finger at others and just go on the best way possible. I read opinions of people recognizing our selfishness, saying things like "what am I going to tell MY children now?", or "what will become of the old truth that only women gave birth?". Did anyone ask what would think the baby girl that will be born of that couple when she grows? In a changing world she will be JUST FINE. Good luck!
Celso Rosa, Coimbra, Portugal
I think that people need to keep their opinions to themselves. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Thomas carrying a child. Just because you think your religion doesn't condone something like this or you think its "creepy" doesn't mean that it is. I say "Congratulations Tom and Nancy" and may you have a lifetime of happiness with your baby girl.
Laura, Chicago, IL
Accepting means to treat others with the respect that you would like to receive. It doesn't mean to advocate or promote others or parts of their lives.
People exist in the world who are transgendered, disabled, ethnically different, religiously different...these are all things that may pull us out of our comfort zone. These people won't stop existing because they offend you. By choosing to not be accepting (regardless of whether you are approving or not) you are condeming others to lives that are more challenging and more difficult than they have to be. What benefit is it to you to make someone else's life harder?
A. K., San Francisco, CA
you know what. i think its great that they're are doing this. i fully support these people and anyone else who wants to do this for themselves. We are who we are and its wrong to judge someone for that. I think they'll have an amazing family and i wish them the best!!
everyone has the right. i'm sure its a free country that we live in. Open your eyes people.
Shauna, Fairchild, WA
i honestly don't have anything against them, but since thomas already decided to become a man, why didn't nancy have the child instead? she is a woman right? it would have been much simpler, right?
erin, sunnyvale, california
I am very supportive of this family. People should not be worried about how it will affect future generations. Children should be brought up to be tolerant of other people's lifestyles and it is becoming more and more common that people are accepted for who they are. When someone is not comfortable in his/her own skin, they should be 100% free to make a change. We have the technology to do whatever we want to our bodies, and people should be able to make their own decisions about what they want to do to theirs. People should learn to not let other people's decisions affect their life. I don't care what you say, this man is not affecting your world in any way. You may have to hear about it for a while, but your family's life will not worsen. Teach children that the world is changing and they shouldn't be afraid of it. This baby will be surrounded with their love. A man having a baby with love is better than the 850,000+ babies annually who are forced to end their lives through abortions
Theresa, Melvindale, MI
This goes for Victoria:
First of all no-one is forcing anything on you. You have the right to turn off the T.V. and radio and not read newspapers or magazines.
Secondly, you have a right to rear your children as you want, with religious and moral beliefs that you find fit, but is not that the world has never been diverse, you just have the means now to find out more about what is going on with other people's lives around the world. And...chances are your children will make their own choices about tolerance, diversity, and the riches that this Melting Pot that is America has to offer. I am sure you don't think exactly as your mother does and vice versa.
And about thinking about yourself...well of course you have the right to do that ..it is only human to pursuit YOUR happiness not anyone elses. At the end of your days (if you believe in God) you will be judged according to what you did or did not do, not for what your neighbor thinks. It is free choice, cont...
Dariela , San Antonio, TX
I think it's funny that so many people are upset and why? Because it has been advertised, technically Thomas is still a woman; any one can get a shot-implants or removal of breasts, move somewhere new and start a new life. Do you shun lesbians that get pregnant, so 2 women have kids & you don't say anything but because an ex woman is having a baby where there will be a woman and a "man" to raise the kid it's bad to you a loving family is all that should matter not the gay,trans, lesbian. If things were so bad then being in a loving family is something numerous kids would want & I think had this attempt failed they might have adopted and what would be said nothing because it would be a man & woman.What if she had a hysterectomy from cancer if Nancy still had her uterus and had been inseminated nothing would be said because it would appear as a woman pregnant with a loving husband. I give them kudos they want kids at least they don't have HIV or crack addictions to pass on to others.
Krystal, Round Rock, TX
Yes it's weird, maybe unnatural or uncomfortable, but if you don't like it, don't watch it or listen to it. Everyone has a right to do what they want and think what they want as long as they aren't hurting anyone. And if you feel too uncomfortable talking to your children then maybe you are the one that shouldn't have them.
Caroline, St. Louis, MO
It is the miracle of life... We are being selfish if we donât allow this couple to be. Is a great discovery and thereâs is nothing wrong with who carries the baby. If there is no risk imposed on the baby then what do we care? It amazing how science works and this is a great example. The importance is not how the baby is going to come to the world but what the baby will become. If the parents are good people than what is the problem? I wish the couple nothing but good wishes. what happened to equality? It is very silly how individuals get riled up over anything... Lets just worry about ourselves.....
Laura Hernandez, Orlando, Florida
In my opinion, I think that you all should just stay out of it. If you don't want to hear about it on t.v. or read it, turn the page, put the magazine or newspaper down, or change the station. If your kid asks about it, tell them you'll explain it to them when they will understand better. I think that you all should let him live his life and let him do whatever he wants and if he wants a family, like you and I do, let it be. How are you and I to judge him? We are all equal in God's eyes so let him be and let him do what he wants. He is a normal human being like you and I that wants a family like you and I who is starting one with his wife only he is pregnant becuase his wife can not have kids so why should we hate him becuase of this? He is just trying to bring new lifes into this world. If you and I can, why can't he? Yes, he is a male, but that doesn't mean he can't have a family too. He needs someone to love him and love him back unconditioanlly(spelling??) just like you and I do.
Melissa , Bonner Springs ,
aweee...... mr. beatie you are an awsome soul.... i hope you and your wife have a wonderful life and a beautiful child..... much love to the 3 of you!!
Jessica, biloxi, ms
I honestly don't know what to think about this. Since I am anti-abortion, I would never advocate killing the baby and it is obvious she will grow up in a loving family, but since this whole affair has become so public, what effects will it have on this child?
Everyone will know she was not born in the normally accepted fashion. With Thomas keeping his "reproductive rights" after his transgender surgery, he presents himself as nothing but selfish.
I understand the couple wanting a child, but wouldn't adoption have been the better alternative? The couple was thinking only of themselves and their desire to have a child and not about the child herself. It is highly likely she will have to endure extreme ridicule while growing up. I hope the family is ready to deal with the psychological aftermath of their decision.
Jennifer Germain, Bisbee, AZ
Where is our common sense? Thomas Beatie isn't a man having a baby; he is a woman by birth. A real man is not equipped for pregnancy; he lacks female reproduction organs. I think we learned this in 5th grade. A real man cannot go back and forth between genders. Either you are or you are not. Hello.
She (Thomas) is only a man by hormone injections and by the power of thinking and a few medical alterations to her body. She kept her reproduction organs when she transformed herself to look more like a guy, which says to me she really is not embracing true manhood, because no "real" man would desire to ovulate, menstruate and then impregnate himself, unless he is a woman in a man's body, who then is actually a lesbian made to look like a man. I think she should be treated like the woman that she is, carrying a baby within her womb-a right given to women not to men from the beginning of creation A womanâs reproductive organs make her a woman, not a man.
Diane, Atascadero, USA, CA
hey im with lonniea i fully support this couple and there child. you know with all these closed minded people i dont how we have advance so far in history and in society. its ridiculous. and to mr. beatie and his wife i hope u have a beautifal baby girl and a wonderful full of happiness and joy.=]
billee, baltimore,
i support this couple. why do people want to take their time and effort to desciminate on someone who is different from them? What about people KILLING one another?!? People can support abortions but not a transgender person choosing life for him and his family??? I wish people would wake up instead of chooseing to live in their own little bubble where they are the only ones that are right!
jamie, St Paul, USA / MN
this is a matter of preference. so what's the point of changing (transplant) when in the long end of the journey you stick on the true nature of human being. We should learn on this example, that sex change is not a wise decision
Bryan, Quezon City, Philippines
I understand that this is different. This is not what we as a race consider "normal." I must say that I wish this couple a healthy baby and a happy life. You see, this couple is happy. The only one's to ruin that would be outsiders. They are obviously used to taking backlash from people and understand that this is the way society is. In my opinion, Thomas was born transgender. By no fault of his own. You see there is no way to change that and the fact that he should have to pick what gender he wants to be is ridiculous. Especially as a child. He has a right to life life no matter what. He is a human being and in the end,he bleeds red just like the rest of us. Problem is that we as a society pass judgement onto others without hesitation. You can judge all you want. Honestly, it does not matter. We really do not need to answer to you. If people are trying to live a normal life with honest intentions, then let them. No one should be forced to change the body they were born with.
Jenn Shaw, Whittier, CA. USA
I believe that we are all spiritual beings first and that souls do not have a gender anyway, so the physical body that we are born into is not the sum of who we are. If two people love each other and are committed to being good parents, that's what makes a good family. Who cares what gender each parent is? Or if there are two parents or just one? Love and commitment to having healthy relationships is what makes a family work. Everything else (gender, race, class) is just the packaging.
Bravo to those who challenge us to see things through the eyes of love instead of fear and hatred! Congratulations to the expectant parents and may they have one heck of a baby shower!
Andy Clark, Phoenix, AZ
Can´t imagine how badly the children and the Girl´s school will mock her and ridicule her for her parents decision. The definitions of man and woman have become blurry. Its hard to find a more confusing situation for the baby girl, when she is explained "Where do Babies come from", and they tell her at home "From daddy", and at school "from women".
Mark Kyroz, EL PASO, TEXAS, US
How can you say 'poor child she is not biologically related to these parents?' If ANY couple had adopted a child or had artificial insemination because of complications, the child would not be biologically related to them, but its okay because they are a straight couple? It doesn't make any difference and the child will accept her parents and love them no matter what, she is not goin to hold a grudge against them because of a transgender father. Children in school may be a different story but if parents taught their children to accept others and not judge it wouldn't be a problem.
April, San Antonio,
I understand the need to be a biological parent but why all the media attention? Why do they need to go on Oprah and tell the world there business. How is this child going to grow up normal when her life is already on the news. I just think the parents are being a little to open. Having a child is a personal thing, not something to go on television about. What's there real motive for all this publicity? God bless that child. I hope all goes well with that pregnancy for that baby's sake.
Larene, Philadelphia, Pa
I think that this subject is not only a very sensitive one, but its also more of a "one-person-against-everyone-else" kind of thing. I think its very close-minded and hurtful to only think of this situation in the "its not socially exceptable" way.The entire country isnt having this baby;Mr. Beatie and his wife are. Its there decision to decide what happens with their child.Would you like it if someone else started telling you that because you used birth control your life isnt socially exceptable?that term in itself is a very fluid one because not everyone has the exact same idea's.Yes, it might be difficult for their child, but dont you think they've considered that already?Let them have a family. So many people today dont even get that chance. At least they will love, support and care for that baby like any other parent. I am very happy for them. I just wish the rest of the world would stop trying to tell them how to run their own lives and how socially unexceptable they are.
Hollie, Kent, Washington
People can be such idiots at times....I don't see where Mr Beatie or his wife is doing any wrong to anyone...all they want is to have a family and be happy like anyone else does...and if living their life the way they are is what makes them happy...who are we to tell them they are wrong. God doesn't and hasn't judge this situation so what makes us think that we can. People can be so cruel and unjust...so quick to talk smack about someone else's life but can't focus on their own. Mr Beatie...I wish you the best of happiness and blessings to you and yours...May God continue to bless you and may you have as many children as you please. I support you all the way. RA RA RA!!!!!!!!
mia, philadelphia, pa
How can you say they'll have emotional issues when they grow up, thats total speculation. Chances are the child will just give the finger to all the haters, god knows I'd give my kid free reign when it comes taking a stand against hate. Take a look at children, now adults who has been teased or oppressed in the past that have overcome obstacles, we see it in literature and in history books. The only people making things difficult for this couple right now are those that can't keep their noses out of other people business, and the parents, peers, and media that formulate a child's behavior by setting invisible barriers on what is acceptable in society and unfortunately setting a poor example that society's rules are not to be questioned.
The best thing I've learned: Truth = ?
Michaela, Mililani, Hawaii
I don't think there's anything wrong with this. As long as he felt it was the right thing for him to do (sex change) and he's happy with it, then that's all that matters.
Congrats on the baby!!
Jen, Williamsport,
I agree with the woman (Victoria Mai) from Illinois. I think everyone is too caught up in their own desires and wants and it's hurting society. If men were meant or capable of having babies this wouldn't be an issue.
It's getting to the point that the things that were once wrong are now right and vise versa, and every special interest group or individual can take their wants/desires, whether immoral or selfish, to court and have it made law . Just as long as you can create doubt in the minds of lawmakers you have a chance.
It might seem very narrow minded or simplistic, but there's a reason God made Male and female. Yes there are medical miracles, birth defects etc. But From the beginning of time until now, and from Europe to Tazmania, men have never been able to give birth.
"Sometimes people are so smart they're stupid"
Tony, San Diego, US/California
I just want to congradulate ya'll! It takes someone really special to risk everything that the media, and public are going to say. The fact that you would do that for your wife and for your relationship means that it is true love. If only all men were willing to do the same for their wives, what difference does it make that, granted you have the "equpiment" for this, but most men wouldn't even consider it if they could. I wish you all the best, i'm sure this isnt the last we have heard of ya'll lol, but know somepeople stand behind your choice 100%. Regardless of how a child is born into this world they are completly innocent and precious. I hope that everything turns out great for you and your family. After all is said and done regardless of those who will try to critizise your choice in the end when you hold your angel in your arms, you will know it was completly worth it. If God wanted everyone to be perfect, we would not have a mind of our own, or FREEDOM which we have. MUCH LOVE!!
Kelly, Statesville, NC
Honestly If they want ti have a child then everyone should stay out of it. They are happy and the baby will be well taken care of. I swear when anything new happens in this world people get all bent outta shape and judgemental. Its like when white people look at black people they see something different. Whatever that is someone please let me know.
Jess, St. Louis, Missouri
some day this girl is going to wonder who her REAL father is, who the SPERM came from. She knows where the egg is from, her MOTHER.
Alyce, anchorage, usa / ak
What is all the fuss about?
It's not a man!
He/She still has all the reproductive organs of a woman, she was born a woman. Surgery may have changed a few things here and there and a polite pandering piece of paper may say "male", but bottom line is: STILL FEMALE.
Taz, Hants, England
so if i make myself look like a dog am i a dog? well according to this i would be. if i take all of my human parts away and substitute them with dog parts would i be a dog? well according to this i would be. hah. well in reality i would be neither, i would be an IT.
Dasha, anchorage, usa / ak
So, the "man" is really a "woman". It's not a story about a man having a baby, but one which reveals the fallacy of 'sex-change' ops.
Colin, Exeter, England
I wish them joy, and a healthy happy baby. For all the haters out there, mind you own business, and stop being so miserable. Oh, and by the way, I spoke to God this morning, and SHE is as pleased as punch.
Jennifer, Ottawa, Canada
My quesion is how will a birth certificate read and what qualifies someone to be male/female legally. The only innocent victim here is the poor baby. She will have to endure unbelievable consequences emotionally as she grows up. If Mr. beattie still has some female parts then isn't he really hermaphroditic and being that his female component is what is pregnant, not that he deciding to become a male legally means he is a man having a baby. I really hope this isn't about money because now they will make a ton of it because of their story and all the media frenzy sure to follow for moths/years to come.
What a sad culture it is when we choose to exploit those people we claim to hold most dear which the Beattie's are doing to there unborn daughter. I can only imagine how many millions will be paid for this baby's first photos.
Let' move on to something really important in this world.
MaggieMae, Atlanta, GA
Woman becomes pregnant.
WOW!
Mimi, London, UK
It's every human's right, to decide, if they and they ALONE want to have a biological child. Yes, there are alot of children that could use a good home, however, if this was any other pregnancy situation like surrogate, or invetro with a family member, most of you wouldn't have a problem. This NOT a religious issue either. All this is, is two, loving, caring people, who want to raise a family, with all the love in the world, they both have to offer. I praise Mr. and Mrs. Beatie, for the decision to have a biological child, which, again, is their RIGHT. They may not have the support of their family, friends, or community, but they do have, MY support, a female born female, married to a man born man, with two sons. Good luck to them and THEIR unborn daughter.Â
Giovanna, Exeter, Pennsylvania
When I first saw this story, I wasn't really sure how to feel. But then I realized, "Hey I'm not the one living it." Out of curiosity I decided to see what other people thought. One of the first things I noticed was many people are confusing the fact that a transgender person is not the same as a homosexual person. Transgender people may "physically" be female, but in every other way be male. (Also vice versa) It's sort of a chemical "disruption" in their bodies during fetal development. Similar to a "birth defect" (Please take no offense). I feel that the fact that Mr. Beatie retained his female organs was almost predestined. I'm sure there are many men out there who love their wives enough that, when they see her pain at not being able to conceive, would gladly take her place if able to. They're just not able to. I'm a Christian and as such have had kind of a difficult time swallowing this story, however, only God knows someones heart and only he has the right to judge.
Krista, Independence,
Good for you two! You have my best wishes in the healthy delivery of your little girl!
SD, Fort Worth, TX
I believe it's a wonderful thing, Mr. Beatie giving birth to his daughter.My only fear would be that something being wrong with the child.Everyone likes to voice their opinion but it's thier decision and I support it.I wish my husband could have carried my two.
Angela Washington, Avondale, la.
I think it's very cute. Just because he's a transgender doesn't mean he doesn't have the right to get pregnant also.
He just wants a family, with his wife. Let it happen. Its not hurting you or anyone else. Congrats :]]
Sarah, San Antonio, texas
Well, this is clearly a complex situation, but some things remain constant: they are married, love each other, and want a baby. If she can't do it, I think that the couple is fortunate he can. I'm a woman, and I kind of wondered what it would be like if females weren't the ones who gave birth. I think this is the closet scenario.
Good luck to them!
Mallory, Luckey,
This story isn't incredible or shocking at all. A woman is pregnant plain and simple. It happens every day. Thomas Beatie may have male parts but when push comes to shove, Thomas Beatie is a woman. So I do not see the need to push this as something amazing.
John, Baltimore,
If you have a uterus are you really a man?
sharon, naperville, IL, usa
As long as they are happy and healthy, nothing else should matter.
S. Richardson, Orlando, FL
Victoria, you only seem to care about your beliefs. This man is a human being with feelings. He is not forcing his beliefs on you, he is doing what he feels is right. He did not force you to read this article or watch Oprah, you chose to and you can choose to turn a blind eye and raise your children to be close-minded to other people and their differences and you will be doing them a great disservice.
Erica Gordon, Palmer Twp, PA
Calm down......it's a woman having a baby while looking like a man. Men have nipples that don't really appear to have any viable function and male /female role assignments are in, large percent, culturally dictated. Our biological differences serve challenges that exist between the procreative process and physical survival challenges to the organism. Essentially we are adrogeneous beings.
MenNefer, Hawaii,
It will be interesting to see who the child gravitates to more. Usually, the birth parent (the mother) has a deeper attachment to the offspring.
imamale, Atlanta, USA
God has everything to do with everything because HE created human kind. He didn't create you to change sexes, he didn't create man to have children, he had a purpose.
Mrs. Moore, Texas, U.S.A
I hope the pregnancy goes well. Since this is a first I hope there are not unforeseen health problems. And Thomas is a very caring husband to get pregnant for his wife.
Jane, Town, USA
This isn't new. My best friend is transgendered and gave birth to a son 2 yrs ago...
Mindy, Rocklin,
This couple has done nothing wrong. I agree with what Mr. Beatie says, "Wanting to have a biological child is neither a male nor female desire but a human desire."
This is different yes, but why do we limit humanity's potential with prejudice? Anyway, Beatie Family: Congratulations! God Bless!
Rebecca, Los Angeles, Ca
There's nothing more wonderful than being able to bring a child into this world; and I'm glad they get their chance. I wish them all the best.
Crystal, Winter Springs, FL
I am not offended by this at all. I think the child will be brought up thinking this is quite normal and will understand her situation better then any of us could.
She may however feel different when other kids tease her about her dad giving birth to her. But come now, this male looks like a male.
All I wonder i how will this baby be born via vaginal delivery or cesarean?
lindsay, San Bernardino, Ca
Sex change surgery should not be allowed!
Has anybody thought about how is this child going to survive in school?
Bullying???
C'mon there will be a poor child born into a relationship that is unnatural.
And some of you say that it is good, get real and stand up for your beliefs.
IT SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED
Trev, Nottingham, UK
I would like to know why it's such a big deal. If a girl wants to be a dude and then gets himself pregnant, that's his problem. And women are always talking about how men never experiance pregnancy and all the crap that comes along with it, and this is the closest that they will come. This will just have to be something people have to get used to, like people being gay.
Zeke, East Stoudsburg,
It is often said that you cant love someone else until you learn how to love yourself and its true because unless or until you yourself dont love yourself how do u expect another person to come in your life and love you. This man/woman didnt love herself thats why she converted her sex so how are we expecting that the child who is going to come in this world is going to be loved by him/her. In my opinion they will never be able to give their child a normal upbringing because I believe both mom and dad have a role to play and there are roles which mom and mom cannot play.
Ahsan, london, uk
-IS ANYONE ELSE CONFUSED AS TO WHY THIS IS A BIG DEAL - THEY SAY LEGALLY HE IS A MAN CAUSE HE/SHE HAS HAD "sex reassignment". HOWEVER I WOULD NOT CONSIDER HIM A MAN IF HE HAS ALL THE PARTS OF A WOMAN - HE IS PRETTY MUCH JUST A FLAT CHESTED HAIRY WOMAN - IF "HE" FEELS LIKE MAN AND CONSIDERS HIMSELF A MAN THEN HE SHOULD BECOME A MAN - THATS HIS CHOICE - BUT DONT TRY TO BECOME A NEWS STORY
ABBY , AP, NY
Men should'nt be having children period! Since the beginning of time women have been having children. What sense does it make for a man to have a child?? And if you did decide to give up being a women, why did you keep your female organs? It is not called being close minded it is called "normal". I don't think it's right. How is he and his "wife" ever going to explain that to their daughter? Oh Lord, what is this world coming to?
Gina P, Naples, USA/FL
oh god iam sick, my normal kids will have something to pick on and harass thankful of all the freaks,im parting now.
c. miller, burkesville, ky.
i honesty think it neat. does anyone know if their are pictures of the baby.
aubrey, azle, tx
i support them as well.. and i can't believe that people are so closed minded [ha whatever] it doesn't matter if this was on TV or all over the news for your kids to watch. It's up to your kids to choose what they want to be... everything in this world is changing everyday and you cannot stop it. Be a role model that you want to be for your child and they will learn from you. jesus.... whatever.
ms truong, richmond, va
Victoria, I think you are too close-minded and protective. They have the freedom to post this story and you have the freedom to ignore it. I don't see how this story is upsetting.
adam, morgantown, wv
I fully support them as well. I feel like it is noboby's business what anyone chooses to do in their own life. No one has the right to decide what someone should or should not do with their life. Worry about yourself and yourself only, and stop trying to force your beliefs upon others.
Amy, Hanoverpark,
I guess if God wanted men to have babies, he would have created them with a uterus. He didn't....imagine that! This person is a woman if she is able to have children. Period.
Shelley, Birmingham,
transgendered or not surgery or not its a woman giving birth not a man. just because you alter your appearance doesnt change what you are in side. just because you paint an apple purple doesnt make you a grape. this is just a woman with male features giving birth. nothing more.
Rufus, erie, pa
I support the family as well. There is no reason why anyone should be able to determine what someone does with his/her body. In addition, people need to put themselves in this couples shoes...what if they were in this situation. There are so many childern that are being beaten, so many people starving, and so many families losing family members to war, and this is what people are focusing their attention on. The world is changing every day, and although no one likes change, people who cannot be supportive will soon be left behind.
Alicia, FFX, VA
Did you know that the male seahorse carries the babies? just some food for thought. Who are we to judge, if the baby is born with 2 loving parents, thats more than most of us had.
rose, lacey, washington
ONLY IN THIS COUNTRY. If this man/women/it was in another country he would have not lasted this long. Perhaps western Europe and a few other countries. As for me i live an normal life; i am straight have a wife but my life is what i make it. To other people my life may not be normal. But this is ridiculous. If these two individuals want to do what they want so be it. What is the reasoning behind maybe there own family a circus side show. I have read comments of support as well as disgust. I for one think these individuals should have chosen what they wanted and done it. Parading themselves in front of the media, is this a cry for attention; look at the picture on this page. Give me a break; what is this liberal country coming to.... I for one have nothing against gays or there rights to have a family however they choose. My sisters father in law is a gay man and i never had a problem with him or his partner. However i wish these people go to a strict third world country..
HAVE SOME SHAME, BIGCITY, CALIFORNIA
I am happy that he made this choice not only for himself but his wife. It's also upsetting that he could not find a doctor that would help him in their journey of becoming a family. I don't know any man that would take the responsibilty of carrying a baby for the nine months like a woman would. I wish nothing but the best for the future of their little girl. I hope that everything goes okay with the delivery. Good Luck!
Brittany , Collinsville, United States Illinois
Seriously? People believe that this couple is forcing their beliefs on others?? They have chosen to have a child. They have chosen to have a family. That has nothing to do with anyone else in the world but them. They have not asked that people support them or agree with them. They have asked that they receive the same human rights as anyone else, including proper medical care. It sounds to me like this is a very lucky child. A child who is loved and wanted and who will grow up with two parents. That is a lot more than many children get in this world.
Rebecca, Azusa, California
Alot of people are bringing god into this and I agree it has nothing to do with god, but we as humans that do have children may not feel like we have to explain this very ODD situation. I have a 10 year old and I probably would not care if I didn't have a child to bring up and to have to explain things to, but I do! I also agree that if you were born a woman and then changed your sex that was a decision you made. I undestand that his wife cannot have children but there are a lot of children out there that need loving homes, maybe that should have been an option. I beleive that people can do what they want and should not have to answer to anyone - but in a situation where they are bringing it public and not keeping this a private home matter - then I think people can have whatever opinion they want to have regarding the situation. If a child was in a bad home people would say how bad the parents are, etc. but because this is a man having a child - that's not bad????
Maria , Worcester,
I applaud them for staying with their beliefs and going forward to try and have a family. People in this day and age need to conform and worry about the future of their own lives and children. The birth of this child will be a blessing to this couple. It's no one's business how they choose to live their lives. As long as they are good parents and good to each other that is the only concern that should be had. Good luck to both of you! That will be a lucky child!
Ann Osborne, Connecticut
Ann, Hebron, CT
it really doesnt bother me, i mean he was born a women, so i dont think it is wrong for him to do that.. i bet a lot of men would do that for thier wifes if they could, so i just hope they baby as well as the father do well. and GOD will be on there side.
SIDNEY, FORESTVILLE, MARYLAND
This is WRONG and I wish everyone would quit calling this thing a man because it has a uterous and is and allway will be a woman so quit exploiting the fact that all it did was have its boobs cut off and take hormones to grow hair.
Matt, bluffton,
I have a question that probably sounds really stupid but....here goes---how was he inseminated? Does he have a vagina or a penis? Sorry, I am just so out of the loop about things like this! But, I am open minded as well. If the baby is healthy and wrapped in love for the rest of her life, who's to say its wrong?
Lisa, northridge, ca
I think that this is totally disgusting. I'm sorry, but you gave up your rights to be a "woman" when you decided you wanted to "turn" into a man. I don't agree with that at all. Giving birth is a womans right, not a "man's".
But seriously, when will society decide to speak up? Is the humilliation people will put themselfs through ever end, or is the media more important to these people? Whatever. Thats pretty stupid.
I don't agree with it, but since God allowed it, I must congradulate you.
Good Luck and God Bless You.
Samantha Brown, Cabool,
Who are you to judge! Selfish? Look at everything else in the world around you that is for personal enrichment that has mostly claimed lives or livelihood and mass produced for you to gorge on. He's not killing anyone. He's pro-life, pro-personal truth, and pro-happiness. I challenge you to take off the veil over your head.
L Burgoyne, San Mateo, California
The story is a little weird however, I am happy for the couple, the baby will be raised with 2 loving parents, everyone has the right to bear children. Its no different than a child being adopted from a homosexual couple. It is a miracle to bring a child into the world, we should repect them as people and as future parents.
Rea, Henderson, USA
I find this to be a fascinating story. Although I agree with those people who have commented to say that it is not a true news story, and more of an interest piece, I think that it is important to show the world just how far human limits can be pushed. I have absolutely no moral problem with Mr Beatie's choices, whether they be gender-reassignment surgery, or the choice to carry a child, and entirely agree with him in saying that the desire to have a child is not a male or female choice, but a human choice. What I find really fascinating is that this has not happened in huge numbers already. I frankly had assumed that a transgender man would not be able to become pregnant, as I had never heard of it happening before, and the discovery that hormone therapy and the surgery itself does not destroy that ability amazes me. My one concern is how the changes to Mr Beatie's body will biologically affect the child. If it were to affect her adversely, then I might have an issue with it.
Katie Edge, London, England
I don't think it is anyone else's business what this couple has chosen to do. Unless that are abusing the child- we have no say in it.
Let them live their lives and try to be a bit more loving toward others.
Mary Ellen, BlueBell, PA
I feel sick!! Really, just my opinion. I really feel like throwing up after reading this!!
John, Encino, CA,
Wonder if he takes a maternity or paternity leave, for how long?
Jean, London, UK
I think this is a great lesson in acceptance. For parents who are worried about explaining to their children how a man can get pregnant, it's a wonderful opportunity for children to learn that there are all sorts of diffrerent people with all sorts of different paths, obstacles, and burdens. God bless those who are *not* sexually confused, who fit into the "socially acceptable norm", but the reality is, if we want a peaceful, loving, creative world, we need to support each other, not condem each other. Yes, I admit, as a woman, it is quite jarring to see a man pregnant. But rather then judge, which creates only more negativity, I'm choosing to be open and curious. In my opinion we have two choices with situations like this -- we can react negatively, and close down or we can learn to be more accepting. And finally, anyone who wants to bring life into this world, is bringing us a wonderful gift.
N Dylan, Santa Monica, CA
To the Beatie couple, that is awesome. You are blessed to have such open minds and hearts, and a baby. Best of luck with the baby. You are one of the few ushering our society into a more evolved awareness. To the ones who don't get it, Watch "For the Bible Tells Me So". You are no one to judge.
Jack, Los Angeles, CA
I am confused...does he have a penis or a vagina? How can he be inseminated if he has a penis?
Mary, Ocala, FL
He can take all of the hormones he wishes, but unless the doctors can change the chromosomal assignment he received at conception, he is XX--female, and not male. A male is not giving birth. A hormonally and surgically altered female is giving birth; hopefully to a child that will be unaffected by the media circus that will follow her, not to mention the hormones her mother ingested in trying to appear male.
Josie, Boston, MA
I honestly dont see anything wrong with it. As to the close minded people, get over it! No one is forcing beliefs on you, no one is forcing anything on you. To Victoria from IL, your a joke. Talking about forcing beliefs , its not like their knocking on your door and FORCING you to do anything. If they are forcing their beliefs on you, then arent you doing the same?
nicole, Columbus, oh
I think this is great . This world has become so self absorbed in right and wrong and how people should act or look it's great having people who do things outside the box. Good for them. Who cares what other people think. CONGRATS
STEPHANIE, SYRACUSE,NY,
Yikes. Glad he isn't my daddy/mama.
Gary, Austin, TX
I also fully support the Beattie family! I am in amazement of the situation, but really, it's not that strange, it's a beautiful thing and I wish them the best of luck!!!
Carmen, E.L., CT
Victoria... I think that you are the one being selfish in this world... He should have every right to do what makes him and his wife happy... and he is doing so. I am very happy for him and wish him, his wife, and his soon to be daughter all the best.
Cheryl, Wichita, KS
All I can say is we all should just mind our own business. If that is what they chose to do, then who in the world are we to judge them?
Nic, GA
Nic, Roswell, GA
I think this whole situation is disgusting. It's all for publicity and money. He is NOT a man. He may look like a man, but that's it. There is nothing male about him but his appearance. He has all the plumbing of a woman.
Sering, Houston, Texas
Lucky Baby! Their baby girl will have loving and caring parents, something that most of the "normal kids" don't have. Open your eyes Americans! And hearts too.
e, los angeles, california
I think that this is amazing! I have always believed that you should follow your hearts and Mr. Beatie and his wife have provided excellent examples for two reasons. It takes a lot of guts to be transgender and to love someone openly that is transgender just because of the society that we live in today. And on top of that to decide to carry a baby for your wife. It is just amazing. This world needs more people like this family.
Tiffaney Day, Clarksville, Tennessee
I must say I'm troubled by the pose the person takes in the photo. Very exhibitionist and posturing. It makes me feel that the whole exercise is similarly motivated. A lesson in politicise.
Barbara, Bath, Avon
i don't see this as an issue of whether or not gay people should be parents. my concern is for the physical health of the baby and the mental health of this little girl as she grows up. i'm sure her parents have thought some about this, but isn't it indulgent on their part to "have to have" a biological child, knowing that this daughter will be made a mascot for the way she was conceived and carried, and the outing of her father to the whole community in which she will live? there are so many babies that need loving homes. if this couple wanted a family, they could have tried adoption, and kept in tact the social, community, and family relationships they'd been enjoying their whole marriage, and shared that "village" with their child. i'm not saying to live in secrecy about being transgendered, but evidently they did not feel the need to share that with those in their circle before. this expense of this pregnancy is the child's, and she didn't ask for it.
abbi, greenville, sc
Everyone is commenting about judging the two main players involved - but that's what you do when you see a story this unusual, you comment. Just because you're making a comment in their favour doesn't mean you're not judging, you are judging too! They are now public property like any other public figure, celebrity, or 15 minutes of famer so they'll just have to deal with the yay and nay of public opinion. I think it's wrong, like alot of others here, but alot of others also think there's no issue. All I have to say is that in the end, we'll know who won the toss - 'right' is never a grey area.
Nikki, Caribbean,
I can't believe some of you, especially the doctors who turned down Thomas. Who cares if he is trangender, I mean, he/she is not much different from any other human being, just a female who changed to a male. I think some of you don't want these sort of changes to happen, but, lemme tell you something ---- THEY ARE GOING TO HAPPEN. If you think this guy is actually faking, then why become interested? Why take this small situation and turn it into a bigger one, when gas prices are high and rocketing and global warming his hitting? I don't think any of you have a sense of clue, nor a sense of heart. If I was his family, I would support him all the way, no matter how weird it was!
Haley T., Panama City, FL
I completely agree with Monie, San Jose. God bless Thomas Beatie, his wife, and his baby girl. I wish them well. A baby is the most beautiful gift anyone can receive in this world.
Patricia Guerra, Dallas, Texas
A pregnant man?
The world is going crazy!
How can anyone accept this?!
What was he/she thinking?!
For God's Sake!
Anna, Setubal, Portugal
I know there are millions of people everyday that have children and do not take care of them. Hell, most of them women dont even want to be pregnant. i know woman who only have their kids to either get child support and never work OR live off of the government. IF Nancy and Tom want to have a baby, want to take care and love this child like all children deserve, who are any of us to judge. AND yes Monie, GOD is the only one who judges people.
May they have a life of happiness that most of us only dream of!
Casey, MC, Louisiana
What is going on with this world?
serge, Atl, GA,
I agree with you Ireanna. God bless you. Thank you for voicing the Word of Truth.
Massiel, Miami, FL
<i>We all can agree it's not normal and out of the ordinary, sowhy should this girl have to bbe born into this situation<i>
oh, but my friend, we CANNOT all agree that it's not normal. It is completely normal for MY friends to have all different kinds of bodies, and genders, and relationships. and the children we are raising and are happy to be free to choose their destinies for themselves, too.
50 years ago most people would have agreed that it was abnormal and unhealthy for boys to play with dolls, or girls to play with trucks.
Norms change.
and many people I know are thrilled that Thomas Beatie and his partner are brave enough to put themselves in the public eye. slowly, we're changing the norms of what men and women can and cannot do. and the result is more freedom, and less prejudiced judgement, for all.
alison, philadelphia PA, USA
Those of you who are worried about the child--get a clue! Everyone gets teased about SOMETHING in school and it is most vital to have loving family relationships--regardless of the gender or appearance of one's parents. Think about how many babies suffer from lack of love and good parenting skills in traditional heterosexual male-female parents. No one who has paid any attention to our world can make the claim that male-female partnerships are inherently more stable and healthy--because they are not. How battered and neglected children are born to the typical male-female couple every day? It's how healthy, conscious and loving people are which makes them good parents, not their gender identity or sexual orientation! What is really a "sin" or "morally decrepit" is to use the name of God to try to justify fear and hate-based judgments. That is so old. Open your hearts and your eyes and start seeing below the surface of things to what really matters in life.
Andy Clark, Phoenix, AZ
I think this is a very different experience but I am fully supportive of this couple. Why should they be denied their right to have a child just because the mother can't? Granted, they could adopt but it is human nature to want to have a baby with your own characteristics. I completely understand this. If there was any way for me to have a child without adopting or so forth because I wasn't able to carry my own, I would jump on the opportunity. The people who say they are open-minded are obviously not and are trapped in their own shell. People are so afraid of change and something that they are not used to, yet society has changed immensely over the past fifty years. And we have adapted. This is just something people are going to have to take in and accept. Like I said, it is definately out of the ordinary, and hard to grasp at first but it is an opportunity for this couple to make the family they have always dreamed of and people just be supportive of their dreams.
Millie, Chicago, Illinois
Yes, perhaps this is going against some kind of "norm" we set for ourselves as a society-- that women should stay women and men should stay men, that a pregnant