Tom Baldwin in Columbia, South Carolina
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Barack Obama vowed yesterday to confront Bill Clinton head-on, saying that the former president was habitually twisting facts and “has taken his advocacy on behalf of his wife to a level that I think is pretty troubling”, writes Tom Baldwin.
In a Democratic race where Mr Obama has often tried to present himself as a healing candidate who can rise above old divisions, his comments signalled that he is ready for hand-to-hand combat with Hillary Clinton – and her husband.
Both candidates, together with John Edwards, staged an apparently friendly show of unity at a rally outside the South Carolina Capitol building in Columbia yesterday where they marked the annual holiday for the civil rights leader Martin Luther King.
Mrs Clinton went out of her way to praise Mr Obama as an “extraordinary young African-American man who has so much to contribute”– before trying to match him for passion when she spoke out against inequality.
Mr Obama leads the polls before the primary here on Saturday with strong backing from black voters who are likely to account for more than half the turnout. But the Clintons will not give up the support of a community that has always held them in high esteem without a fight.
The former president is shadowing his wife’s rival every step of the way. Yesterday he delivered an address at the Ebenezer Church in Atlanta, Georgia, where Dr King was a pastor and where Mr Obama had spoken on Sunday. Mr Clinton said that Dr King would get a kick out of seeing the Democratic nomination contested by a profoundly eloquent black man and a woman – who had idolised the civil rights leader.
He may, however, be embarrassed by video footage of him apparently falling asleep during some speeches.
In his interview yesterday Mr Obama talked of how he faced two formidable opponents in Mrs Clinton and her husband. Although acknowledging that there would be some sharp elbows in any election, he went on to detail a litany of complaints about the former president. These ranged from recent attacks on Mr Obama’s position on the war in Iraq and apparent praise for Ronald Reagan, to repeated claims that his campaign made use of dirty tricks in last weekend’s Nevada caucuses.
“This has become a habit and one of the things that we’re going to have to do is to directly confront Bill Clinton when he’s making statements that are not factually accurate,” said Mr Obama, who has made counter-allegations of hard-ball politics by the Clinton campaign in Nevada. “I think it’s important that we try to maintain some level of honesty and candour during the course of the campaign.”
In a speech on Sunday night Mr Obama made several references to what he called the “mis-characterisations” of his views by Mr Clinton’s campaign. Howard Wolfson, the spokesman for Mrs Clinton, suggested that her opponent was smarting from successive defeats in New Hampshire and Nevada. “They are frustrated and they are attacking Bill Clinton,” he said. “Senator Obama’s allies in Nevada engaged in strong-arm tactics and intimidation against our supporters and his record against the war has been inconsistent. President Clinton is a huge asset to our campaign and will continue talking to the American people to press the case.”
There was more ill-feeling when the Clinton camp accused Mr Obama of breaking a promise to abide by party rules and not campaign in Florida.
But it is the issue of race that simmers through the South Carolina primary. The two campaigns clashed last week about comments in which Mrs Clinton was alleged to have belittled the role of Dr King in the passage of civil rights legislation.
James Clyburn, a senior, black Congressman, called on Mr Clinton to “chill a little”, saying that he should not “engender the kind of feelings that seem to be bubbling up”.
David Axelrod, the campaign manager for Mr Obama, described the recent behaviour of the former president as “crass”, adding that it was sad and disappointing to see him act in such fashion. “Nobody doubts that there is a good-cop, bad-cop, thing going on,” he said. “I admire him as a former president but he is out there on the battlefield and we’re not going to stand there and allow Senator Obama’s comments to be distorted by anybody.”
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God Bless You Barack. You insipire me and give hope thst anything is possible. Thank you Barack. You are a special man.
Sam Halston, Kansas, USA,
I am very undecided at this time and my primary is coming this Saturday. I will say I am very very ready for positive change in this country and I know it will come at a price, one I believe I am ready to pay for the sake of my children and my grandchildren. I am following almost every word Obama says and I am sick of the way that Mr. Clinton is speaking. Unfortunately, his behavior is helping to sway my vote. He should stay out of this race completely. I believe his behavior is hurting his wife's campaign although he may feel his is campaigning to help her, the result is the opposite in many opinions. I feel his behavior was also a disgrace while in office and therefore I am pretty sure I do not want him back there as would happen if Hillary was elected. So I guess I just decided, it is Obama for President of my country all the way as he will bring change because he believes we can do it and so do I.
Susan/South Carolina
Susan McCall, Columbia, SC
Yes you all critisize Obama for not being experience, but did they not say the same about Kennedy? Obama has some great ideas for this country and I believe we should give him a shot. If Hillary gets in the white house who is to say that it won't just be another scandolous repeat? America doesn't need scandals. It needs a leader.
Alysha, Miami, Florida
The problem with believing anything Bill has to say is that he has lied in our faces before. Even if his lies were nowhere near as destructive as those that came out of the following presidency, the one thing Americans feel they need right now is to be told the truth, and it is not something I feel I can get from the Clintons. I am sorry that Obama is being dragged into this type of politics. Though I can't blame him, and It feels good to hear someone call the Clintons out, I am afraid it will ultimately harm his campaign. Anyway, I am mailing in my ballot today in California, and clinging to hope.
Vegangypsie, Pacifica, CA
People who complain about how broken the politics of Washington are- how "sordid and inefficient and in ineffective it is," should seriously consider the opportunity we have NOW- not later, for CHANGE. It is SO IMPORTANT now to truly believe someone in a position of power, or what is the HOPE for our future?
Connie Lindberg, Santa Barbara, CA, USA
I have never experienced a election that have made me so sad. I am watching the debates, and news. I researched both careers.Clinton did an agreement, that oursource to sweatshops over seas, as Americans lost their job. His inability to keep his pant up at work , create an environment of sexual misconduct, something the average people would have lost their job. There were scandals after scandals (white water..etc). Obama is not sling mud. He is running his campaign. He does not have any scandals. Bill is using the same methologies that effects Blacks in America to this day. He was us to see Obama as less than Hiltary and himself. How one can think that a person that creates that much divison, can bring peace is beyond me. I feel like I am in a new kind of hiden racism. Are they going after John Edwards that way?
Leona A Tjan, Norfolk, VA
Wake up people an understand that this is the most important election in he history of this country. It's the first time in 50 years that there won't be a candidate who is currnetly in the White House. Please sort out the facts about each candidate very closely. Don't get caught up in the hype. Think it through, what has Hillary Clinton really done but be Bills' wife? If we didn't have NAFTA and the Iraq war (both of which Hillary supported) our economy wouldn't be heading for a recession. Do we really want to have 28 years of Bush/Clinton leadership? My vote is for Obama we need a change and we need it now!
Tom, Baltimore, MD
The bickerings among respectable politicians is surely disturbing. I feel spouses of people contesting should stand back and offer support to their spouses from the rear rather than coming forward to attack rivals in an election. Surely we should check the motive for leadership, is it for self purposes or nation building. Is all this putting the Americans at heart or for self glorification. People should work for a common purpose. When will race and age stop being a leading world issue?
Tazzy, Herts, United kingdom
Being a regular visitor to U.S.A.I cannot avoid passing an opinion on elections.I think it is time to put an end to punch and judy show of clintons.Bill is doing all the dirty work for Hillary.The American people should vote for a candidate on qualification and leadership ability.Give Barack Obama a chance he appears to be carismatic enough to heal the divisions in a nation.
MJS,Edinburgh,U.K.
M.J.SHAFI, Edinburgh, U.k.
Please god don't let Clinton in. You americans will have TWO presidents running the country in Bill and Hill.
Imagine: BUSH, CLINTON, CLINTON, BUSH, BUSH, CLINTON.
Come on Guys, american needs a good old change from these two dynasties. Just look at what a second president in the family does.
David, Madrid,
I am afraid i have to say this! But i was born in Africa and have seen its good and bad side and africans cant run a country! I would like to see the US in a Uropeans hands rather than a African! its just the way it is! Africa cant run without white intervention nor can the US
Mark De la peyre, Bournemouth, United Kingdom
Experienced?? Is there any experienced president on their first term? On this ever changing world in which the only permanent thing is change, we need a man who is willing to tackle real change. I'll go for Obama.
jt, bristol, uk
I truly wish that people would do proper due diligence regarding Hillary's "experience". Exposure and experience are two different things. HIllary's term as a junior Senator began in 2000 or 2001. Granted Obama assumed office as a junior Senator in 2005, but he had been a member of the state senate from 1997-2004. Might I add, John Edwards' term began in 1999. Do the math people. They have traveled diverse paths, but Obama obviously has served in an elected office the longest. I respect the position of a First Lady, but she was not President. Wake up.
Stephanie, Atlanta, GA
After viewing last nights debate it is obvious that Hillary came out the winner. As to the support and campaigning by her husband former PRESIDENT good for her. She is the logical choice for leader of the democratic party given her experience, passion, energy and record of success. I would like to see her in the white house and certainly given her tenure and experience and the fact that she was the former first lady this is a no brainer. I hope and pray for a Democratic president and not another war mongering red neck. Bush and the Republicans have brought the economy to it's knees. Spending 4.5 billion a month on the war in Iraq which translates into $100,000 a minute and $4100 per household. Stop the Republican insanity! $150 Billion fiscal aid package is comparable to putting a band aid on a major axe wound.
Mike, Toronto, Ontario
I think Obama is sinking into the Hillary Clinton mud slinging match. To beat Hilary all he has to do is say: "I appreciate that voter's need to know about voting records etc. But you are simply representing old politics. We are supporting new politics, hope over fear. This kind of mud slinging provides no hope for us at all."
al, soton,
Mr. Obama is a leader. It's sad he's had to defend himself against lies and twisted truths, but if he doesn't people will believe them as they believed them about John Kerry. We have a chance here to have a fine, good man, a man of peace and vision, as leader of the people - God, I hope we don't blow it and end with up the same old, same old... war-mongering politician in the white house.
Joan, New Brunswick,
Barack is running against Hillary not Bill.
Bill should stop and think before he yells about
Barack to the neighbors for his wife.
I can't believe America would want Bill and Hillary
back in the White House when they act like this.
Brenda MacLellan, Henniker, NH
Let's get away from voting for someone just because they are black, or female. I support the person who has the best policies and has the personality to bring people together and for me it's Obama.
Brett, London, UK
Why would Americans want to elect to the highest office someone who is inexperienced, and, who was brought up in a radical Islamic faith in the far east? Islamists dont change religions.
Retro Vision, Midlands, U.K.
Who wants to bet this bickering lands us a republican president.
gus, Cambridge, MA
Bonnie and Clyde are running roughshod over the truth and trying to steal the Democratic nomination. They seem to be taking a page out of G.W.'s play book.
Keith, chicago , Illinois
Ben
Race should not be an issue but it is in America, Clinton's hold a lot of baggage with the republicans and this with Bill had solid support from the African American community is causing a turmoil within the democras. I just hope the Hillary and Obama don't self implode because thats what the Republicans want.. I'm whatching with baited breath, as to Clinton - Obama Ticket could be invincible but what would Bill do.
JACK S, sydney, Australia
You know its phrases like "a bunch of foreigners" that really sum up the problem for me.
Kieran, Brighton, U.K
Hilary has a proven track record of taking on Republicans head on and winning. Barack does not. While I very much like what Barack has to say, I think his lack of experience is going to cause the establishment of both parties NOT listen to him if he were President - and so we'd end up with a lame Oval Office - ineffective. However, with Hilary as President and her dogged determination and Barack leading the Senate we might actually get what both of them are fighting for!!!
Which is surprisingly similar.
Chip Clark - American in UK, Edinburgh, Scotland
I think Obama's presidency will definitely convey the message to the rest of the world that America wants, still can, and has commenced: CHANGE. Another term of dynasty leadership will prove that politics in America are still owned and run by the same crowd. I'm sure just like the rest of the world, America is tired of conflict and wants peace. Don't Americans want to be liked?
Jack, Perth, Australia
It's so obvious that good old Bill will say anything to get himself back in the White House. I used to trust what he said. No longer!
Larry Channing, WINTER PARK, Florida
How dare Obama exercise his right as a citizen to run for President and interfere with Hillary's right to occupy the White House. The world according to Bill
Bruce L. Northwood, Washington, D.C., USA
Mr.Obama, It might show the voters who might run the White House if Mrs. Clinton was to wins.
Louis , Peru, IL
It is time for the Bush/Clinton dynasties to end once and for all. The definition of insanity is repeating the same behavior over and over and expecting different results.... Isn't it time to embrace Obama's Yes We Can attitude and not only revitalize our nation but live up to the dream in real time.
kelly moore sanders, INDIANAPOLIS, indiana
I would say to Andy, DO NOT WORRY ABOUT INEXPERIENCE. It is the current experienced President that is leading the US and the world into recession and presiding over the biggest mideast mess in history. It is not experience we need but rather some genuine change in direction. Obama offers some genuine change not just more of the same with Bill directing traffic from his arm chair in the White House.
Fred Ferdelberger, Adelaide, Australia
To all these people lining up to demonise the Clintons, from what I recall Bill Clinton's presidency was very successful, in terms of strong economy and prosperity for the US, at the very least. And the country was sure as hell not in the mess that it is today, thanks to Mr. Bush's war mongering and overall ineptitude. So why shouldn't people vote for Hillary?
And exactly what is it that Mr. Obama going to "Change"? I have yet to hear any detailed policy or program of action from the good Senator. Cosy words designed to make people warm inside, but lack substance do no make for a clear vision of what needs to be done.
Paul, London,
First of all, Obama has more government experience than Hillary Clinton. Secondly, Obama has been endorsed by some of the most astute politicians in the United States. Surely these endorsers know more and are more concerned about America than a bunch of foreigners. Third, an Obama administration will tap the best minds in the country, similar to those already on his team or have endorsed him. Many from the Clinton administration. Obama is not going to wield presidential power without input from other brilliant minds. But speaking hypothetically, I would prefer a lone-wolf Obama to a lone-wolf Clinton. Obama has clearly demonstrated the best judgment of the two.
Michael Gish, Los Angeles, CA
To maw in New York,
You say that if Obama is elected, we would have "elected a president based solely on his qualifications and leadership ability." How can this be possible, being that Obama would be one of the least experienced president to take office in the history of the US (even less experienced than W)? What am I missing?
Peter, San Francisco,
With economic recession on horizon, political mess in Middle East and Russian's cooling relationship with the West, can America (and the world) afford another inexperienced President?
Andy, London, UK
I beg the voters not to elect Senator Obama to the presidency this time. They will be doing him and therefore indirectly the African American cause, a great diservice. He does not have the necessary experience yet to become a great president; and anything less than being a great president will blight his time in the White House. He will also spoil the chances of other African American candidates after him. However, he would be the ideal Vice President for Hilary Clinton; an invincible ticket - a woman and an African American in the White House. So vote Democrat , vote for Change and elect Hilary Clinton with Barack Obama as the number 2.
Ben Genevieve, Perth, Western Australia
America has endured four years of Bush 1, eight years of the Clintons and a incredulous eight more years of idiocy. This is addressed to the Peters of Portland OR who believe the hype
a proposed National Health Care for every American, that
Hillary would bring the troops home and that somehow Congress will join hand in hand under her presidency. Nat'l Health care is a pipe dream that will come over the health industries dead body and that fat cat is very healthy.
As president Hilary couldn't afford the image of being weak
due to gender. You only get to cry once at her public level , and she burned that ticket in New Hampshire. Bill Clinton did an admirable job for the ecomomy, but America chose to spend that by consecutively voting a god ol' boy that reflects a cultural
image they thought the world would respect. Its time to be honest again, time to reflect an take the bitter medicine of truth.
Lets Change while we can.
America and the world needs to be revitalized !!!!
Russell, Colorado Springs, CO
Peter of Portland: you say "Obama showed nothing on his website beside his beautiful words of change. "
Have you even been to his web site? If so, did you bother going past the splash page? There are, in fact, hundreds of detailed, specific, concrete policy proposals on every topic under the sun. What more do you want from the man?
I suggest you quietly ask yourself why you regurgitated someone else's talking point ("Obama's all style, no substance") without stopping to find out if there was any truth to it. After all, it only took me about thirty seconds to find Obama's website and find out for myself.
Now, if you were to criticize Obama for not injecting more substance into his campaign speeches, that might well be a different matter. But I haven't heard enough of them to say either way.
Leonard, Austin, TX
I am of East Indian descent and live in the Caribbean. Here, the citizenry vote along racial lines, which I do not support. However, in the US election, African Americans must vote for Barack Obama. The world needs a strong intelligent and understanding man. Too many young black men live in hopelessness and need to be inspired and to believe they can be great too. Caribbean leaders are not worthy of emulation because they do not motivate and include isolated groups. The poorest communities survive on handouts and used solely for votes. This fuels gang warfare and crime among our black youth in this region and my country. Obama is the hope of empowerment. His impact will be felt worldwide in black communities. Women voters supporting Clinton must vote for Obama and what his presidency can do in a global context. Do not allow the confines of the Clinton infidelity to determine leadership. Our black babies living in abuse and neglect. If I could vote for Barack Obama I would.
Vidya Maharaj, Chaguanas, Trinidad and Tobago
Senator Clinton shows all her plans as a president. Obama showed nothing on his website beside his beautiful words of change. Obama made no specific promise of what will be change. What make us know Obama will be a good president and vote for him?
peter, Portland, OR
Lilly, I share your wish that the candidates would focus more on issues and less on attacks. But I think it is naive to believe that ignoring Clinton's attacks would be in Obama's best interest. Didn't we all learn that lesson from Kerry's non-response to the Swiftboat attacks? Obama is right to defend himself.
Kenneth, Chicago, IL
I cannot believe people are voting for a Clinton. Dont we want to win in Nov?
Jim, Bettendorf, ia
I don't believe a damn thing Bill Clinton has to say. I wonder how any sane person could.
Bill Dobbin, Jackson, Michigan
Amen to that. I agree with everything you said 150%!
Kevin, Traverse City, MI
hit em back mr obama
STEPHEN J SKERCE, salinas, salinas ca
The former President Bill Clinton is supporting the best candidate for the job, which is Hillary Clinton. Regarding levels of "honesty and candor", Obama may want to look at the statements of his pastor/spiritual leader and close adviser.
Anne , LA, USA
I'm sorry, but when the Clinton campaign's response to Obama's criticism is merely, "He's just sad that he's losing right now..." I get flashbacks from junior high. I freely admit to being an Obama supporter, but that comeback just solidified it even more for me.
Jason, Portland, OR, USA
I wish Mr. Obmama engages more on the issues like economy and health care than fighting over otherâs comments about him at this time. He is aiming for the president of this great nation and he should show his great capacity, strength and depth of being one. This includes being able to ignore negative comments or even personal attacks and focus on what really matters to American people. Such attitude doesnât mean he is weak; rather, it will help to show his strength of being able to lead in difficult situations. What he is doing at this level is making me feeling that he doesnât seem to be as solid and in-depth as he has bee sounded.
lilly, Lansing, MI,USA
Please stop Bill Clinton. I was much more impressed with Bill Clinton in years past. The comments against Obama are not helping Mrs. Clinton or the the Democratic party.
Jaye Lee, Clearwater, FL
Like the New York City reader, I too am fed up with "the politics of dynasty." Further, few are less deserving than the Bushs and the Clintons. Though I had not yet decided to endorse Barack Obama, the Clintons are driving me toward him unless John Edwards can get untracked.
Dan Hamrick, Canton, US, OH
The Clintons want to divide rather than unite us and they are doing a great job. Hillary wants me to be her sister and vote for her because it is time to have a woman president. Bill wants me to think Obama is a idealistic fool. I am a 59 year old woman who would love to vote for a woman president but not someone who voted for the Iraq war, whose real experience can never be sorted out from her husbandâs and whose campaign tactics are, I believe âin my heartâ, not genuine but truly disgusting. Gender is not the issue. Neither is race. We all know that Hillary is competent and not a female victim and she certainly wasnât being attacked by Barack Obama who has been gracious and dignified through out this campaign and has not asked for special consideration on the basis of race. Obama is trying to get us beyond the Clinton divisiveness. Don't listen to the Clinton sound bites. Listen to the man who wants us to stand up for ourselves not tell us what to do. Obama 08
Ann31, Bethesda, MD
I personally dont want to send
mrs. Clinton to prison or the white house as they are already getting more of the american taxpayer money than they should.
gordon, Urbana, IL
I am with you on all your points Maw. I am not confident in having a president that needs someone else to settle scores. I feel that I am alone on this one but I believe Bill's butting in makes Hillary look weak. I believe we need someone like Obama to rejuenate our country.
Eddie, South Gate, United States
I think America needs a fresh start. I'm fed up with Bushies and Clintons trading the presidency between them. The Bill and Hillary show is tired and predictable. Nothing new there. It's likely to be more of a co-presidency with Bill helping to call all the shots. We can do so much better. Barack Obama can rejuvenate the country with a fresh perspective and be a unifying force for the nation. And what a tremendous message we would send to the rest of the world: that America has finally started to overcome its racist past and elected a president based solely on his qualifications and leadership ability.
maw, New York City, USA