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Video: Hillary's Florida speech | The bloggers' verdict
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Hillary Clinton today triggered a war of spin with Barack Obama over the significance of the Florida result after she appeared at a triumphant rally in Florida to celebrate her easy victory in the state primary.
Mrs Clinton, trying to snatch the media spotlight and some momentum away from Mr Obama after his prize endorsement from Senator Edward Kennedy, flew to Florida after a contest where no campaigning among the Democratic candidates took place.
A dispute over the Sunshine State’s decision to move its primary forward from February saw the candidates banned from campaigning - and the national party leadership insists Florida's delegates will not be given votes, or even seats, at the nominating convention.
But Mrs Clinton - looking for some good news before Super Tuesday - insisted that Florida, a pivotal state in the last two presidential elections, cannot be ignored. Her case was bolstered by a huge turnout among Democratic voters, with over one million going to the polls. Her aides said that amounted to more voters than had voted in the Democratic race so far.
The former First Lady won 50 per cent of the vote. Mr Obama took 33 per cent and John Edwards 14 per cent.
"I am convinced that with this resounding vote, with the millions of Americans who will vote next Tuesday, we will send a clear message that America is back and we will take charge of our destiny once again," she said to a boisterous crowd. "This has been a record turnout because Floridians wanted their voices to be heard."
She added: "I could not come here in person to ask you for your votes, but I am here to thank you for your votes today."
Mrs Clinton had upheld her pledge not to campaign in Florida but held two closed fundraisers in recent days.
Mr Obama's campaign cried foul, insisting that Mrs Clinton was trying to capitalise on an illegitimate election. John Kerry, the Democrats' 2004 presidential nominee who has endorsed Mr Obama, told reporters in a conference call that Mrs Clinton was using "spin" to profit from a bogus ballot.
Meanwhile, Mrs Clinton sought to further barge Mr Obama out of the limelight with the endorsement of an influential black congresswoman in California, the biggest prize on offer in next Tuesday's nationwide contests and a state where she enjoys a double-digit lead over her rival. She also has a similar poll advantage in two other delegate-rich states, New York and New Jersey.
The strength of Mrs Clinton in California, where fully a fifth of the delegates needed to win the Democratic nomination will be elected next week, was reinforced by the endorsement of Maxine Waters - a veteran African American congresswoman from Los Angeles and an influential member of the Congressional Black Caucus. Her support could help blunt charges of racial polarisation against the Clinton campaign during last week's South Carolina primary.
Although Mr Obama’s South Carolina victory showed him capturing four fifths of black votes, in California Mrs Clinton has backing from a second senior African American politician - Oakland Mayor Ron Dellums - as well as Antonio Villaraigosa, the Mayor of Los Angeles and a key figure for garnering Hispanic support.
Mr Obama, who has launched a $3.5 million advertising campaign in medium-sized swing states, including Missouri and Arizona, is also looking at picking up delegates from Republican-leaning Kansas, Idaho, Utah and Alaska.
Today he was staging a rally in El Dorado, Kansas, the hometown of his white grandfather, where he was seeking to demonstrate not only his local roots but also a cross-party and inter-racial appeal.
He picked up the endorsement of Kathleen Sebelius, the Governor of Kansas, a Democrat who has won two terms in a state which has voted for Republican presidents for the past 40 years.
“I think he brings the hope and optimism that we really need to restore our place in the world, as well as to bring this country together and really tackle the challenges that we have,” she said.
Mr Obama claims he is still the “underdog” as he heads into Super Tuesday and his adviser, David Axelrod, said: “The one great barrier we have is that we’re newer and we need to introduce ourselves and we need to do it in a compact and expeditious way.”
Mr Kennedy, the brother of the late President John F Kennedy, will hit the airwaves in California with a new advertisement seeking to leverage his popularity with Hispanic voters. Mr Obama is suffering with low support among Latinos because of longstanding antipathy between Hispanics and African Americans.
John F Kennedy's daughter Caroline Kennedy, who endorsed Mr Obama on Sunday, launched advertisements in New York, California, Massachusetts and on national cable television, emphasising the similarities between Mr Obama and her father.
Mrs Clinton and Mr Obama were both present for President Bush’s State of the Union address on Monday night where Mr Obama was seated next to his new ally, Mr Kennedy.
When Mrs Clinton leaned over to shake Mr Kennedy's hand, Mr Obama stared coldly and then turned his back on her. He denied today that it was deliberate.
There has been growing animosity between the Obama and Clinton campaigns, with both sides accusing the other of using race as a political weapon.
Much of the controversy has been driven by Bill Clinton and there were suggestions yesterday that the former president had been persuaded - by both his wife’s supporters and senior Democratic party figures to take a less aggressive posture over the coming weeks. Campaigning for the former First Lady in New Jersey, he stayed positive and focused solely on his wife's campaign.
All of the people on this thread who dislike the former first lady, Hillary Clinton, are the same people who voted for George Bush.
Thank you for 8 years of misery.
In the future, please understand, the system is not perfect, the candidates are only poeple, just like you and I, and you should vote for the most qualified, and least corrupt candidate.
While the Clintons are far from perfect, the good they accomplished, while in the Oval Office, will far out-weigh any historic negatives. The Clintons, will also be judged by history like all the other who have "helped" govern, before them. While Obama is probably capable, and more decent than any Republican, he has not paid the dues Hillary Clinton has. Beware of what the media promotes as truth.
Vote democratic in the general election - no matter what - or we will all be very sorry!
D Reyo, NYC, USA
All of the people on this thread who dislike the former first lady, Hillary Clinton, are the same people who voted for George Bush.
Thank you for 8 years of misery.
In the future, please understand, the system is not perfect, the candidates are only people. Please vote for the most qualified, and least corrupt candidate.
While the Clintons are far from perfect, the good they accomplished, while in the Oval Office, will far out-weigh any historic negatives. The Clintons, will also be judged by history like all the other who have governed, before them. While Obama seems capable, and decent, he is still new. Beware of what the media promotes as truth.
Vote democratic in the general election - no matter what - or who or we will all be very sorry..
D Reyo, NYC, USA
I think obama needs more time in the democracy befor he startes running for president i know he's a good man and he would do are country good but i think he needs more time , and for hilary she needs to pull her self together and start putting her foot down - speak louder to are country hilary ! your a very stong women and i would love to see you as are president to prove to everyone that you are just as strong and smart enough as any other president we had befor good luck to the both of you
kassandra, harborcreek, P.a
It does it really matter if you are black or white. What matters today is if the next president can change "AMERICA". Right now as we look at our economy something needs to change and I hope who ever wins can make a change. Every since I was a kid election comes around and the promises that come out of the people running for President was endless. The President can try and make a change but the house has the final say. So does it really matter if the President of America is black or white?
Aloha State, Honolulu, Hawaii
Simple as said I am Mexican my family is all for Hilary Clinton and all my friends and relatives and neighbors everyone. If you come here to California you would know how much racial tension there is between blacks and hispanics.
John Doe, Los Angeles, California
I am an African, and yes I want Obama to win due to his racial pedigree.Yet, when I remember the Clinton African benevolent years, I root for Hillary. However, it is left for the Americans to decide who they wanted in the Oval office. The whole world wait to see whether America would maintain the status quo of electing white presidents (McCain). Or would it be a radical departure from the past to elect a first female White or Black President? Whichever way America go in November, I am sure it would not be according to the stereotype Presidents (represented by McCain) that the world is used to for over 200 years now.
samora, Ikeja, Nigeria, Lagos
it's rather sad that having the support of a black congresswoman or hispanic mayor can be considered an aid in delivering the black or hispanic vote. in fact, it's sad even to speak in terms of a black or hispanic vote.
it's not really surprising that the quality of candidates is so poor and the race so divisive. the politics of race, sex and religion is not good for the u.s. or the rest of the world.
my guess is that mccain will have the broadest grin.
jem, london, uk
What a difference a few years make?
In the 1990's Bill and Hillary Clinton went sailing with Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis and also socialized frequently with her.
Her brother in law, one, Edward Kennedy, helped guide Hillary ,in her early years, in the Senate.
Friends/enemies, whatever in these 'enlightened days', is the difference?
prudence eely bond mcguire, LONDON, ENGLAND UK.
I totally agree with one writer, Sweet Talkers do NOT make great Administrators. The Kennedy legacy is a legacy of ideas, not much else; some one else finished all the hard work. Experience counts for everything, especially when everything does not always go as planned. Words dont cure the sick or feed the poor. What a shame Mrs Clinton isn't being recognised for a lifetime of work in the American Public's service; and being judged purely on this performance alone. What a shame she is judged on the colour of her skin and her gender. Once again Americans seem to be missing the point that the rest of us got years ago ..... When will you have courage to be the country that we all know you can be.
Roger, Sydney, Australia
Hillary clinton represents change ,hope and the aspirations of what americans yearns for today.She has the experience, charisma, guts and political sagacity to put things right in america,God help hillary clinton to win not only the nomination but the election on november.
odinaka obonna, hochiminh, vietnam
If you really believe that Barack Obama would not have a huge impact on the world...you clearly don't know what this man represents. Yes, we live in America where gender and race seemingly find ways to crop up into the discussion, but in the end, it doesn't matter. In the 21st century, we shouldn't be looking at a person's gender or race to elect them. It is only an added bonus that the candidate be a woman or from an ethnic/racial group other than white, but do these things translate into leadership? No, There is nothing inherent in a person's gender or race that equals leadership. Having said that, Obama has clearly started a movement. What started out as a few hundred follows after the 2004 DNCC has now morphed into a national following. Do not underestimate the message of change or the honesty and sincerity that exudes from this young man. He has wisdom beyond his years that comes from his life experiences in the world, not just in America.
TB, Houston, TX, USA
"Democracy calls for supporting whomever you wish. Kudos to those such as Ted Kennedy that have been able to take a position publicly, without fear. Regardless of who you support, have the guts to state your choice, its your right, and don't let anyone, including those commenting on here, tell you your pick is wrong. A vote can never be wrong, if you voted for the one that you truly support. That is democracy.
Rick, Vancouver, Canada"
"I saw that clip and as Ted Kennedy reached out a hand to Hillary Clinton, Obama turned around because someone asked him a question. There was no snub.
It's awful that people want to believe these things.
Joan, Quispamsis, Canada"
Rick and Joan, you are both very smart people. I completely agree. That's why I love my neighbors to the North!
Melissa, Buffalo, NY, USA
What change? History has taught us that a sweet talker is not a good administrator. It's better to stick with the Known rather than the Unknown. Another observation; when white voters voted for a white candidate it is call racism, when black voters voted for a black candidate, it is called enlightenment! How ironic.
gedebe, NY, USA
By electing President Bush on no less than two occasions America lost a lot of respect and standing in the world. Who is Barrack Obama? We don't know? Who is Hiliary Clinton? She could well be the first female president of one of the most powerful countries in the world. That should never be diminished. She has experience, eloquence and guts. Everyone knows its the people behind the scenes that run the country but the President is the person who represents the country and the people in it. Looking from the outside in she has so much presnce she would command the respect of nations leaders and put America back where it belongs on the world stage.
Not some dude no-ones heard of.
KR - England
KR, Norwich, England
Obama and "change", eh?
Does anyone, especially those who are getting carried away with him, know exactly what Senator Obama is going to change and how? Has he ever explained in any detail how he is going to change America? Any specific policies or programmes that anyone know of?
Sorry, I'm not convinced. I've seen nothing but warm and cosy words from the man. And the problem is anyone who dares criticize him is automatically accused of playing the race card.
Hillary might have her shortcomings, but despite the Media's obvious and sustained hostility to her (and Bill), the last Clinton presidency did a pretty good job for America and she has proved to be an able Senator. She is not perfect, but she is a better choice than Obama,â¦â¦unless somehow he can show what exactly it is that he can do better than her, besides being a better public speaker.
Paul, London,
PJO, Portland, Maine said everything. Congrats and go for it Hillary!!!
Anne , LA, USA
My, oh my. Just reading all these opinions had me checking to see if I was on a "debate" website. My 2 cents worth is Thank God we are in America where everyone can voice their opinions without reprisals. I did think some of the posts were "mirroring" the candidates "mud slinging" tactics which is a shame. It's bad enough the candidates "bash" each other - must we?
There have been "smear" campaigns since the beginning of politics. I find all the negativity in elections rather depressing.
The candidates should focus on the issues of the American public. Address them instead of bickering. Help the elderly who helped build this nation. FIX the "donut hole" in the prescrIption drug plan which requires them & the disabled to spend $3800.00 OUT-OF-POCKET before the prices drop down to reduced rates. Help the Americans who can't afford health insurance. Help the disabled who have to wait 3 years without income to receive their benefits. Finally, BRING OUR SOLDIERS HOME!
Sue, Elizabethton, TN
Exactly what kind of experience do you want Obama to have before you look beyond your racial bigotry to understand the mess America is in. What makes you think that all the problems America (and the rest of us) have today were caused by George Bush? Think seriously and ask yourself; who set the precedent for GWB's presidency. For those who are not aware, it is on record that Bill Clinton also attacked Iraq as did the president before him. Obama will do well to steer clear of all the cloak and dagger war mongering and scandalous behaviour of these experienced masters of deceit who have come to believe that they are better than the rest of us and that leadership is theirs by right.
M. Ekwugha, London, England
Obama has really powerful sponsors ..
KNIGHT ERRANT of CHAPPAQUIDICK ---
'Drown & Run Driver' saved by his wealth &
Police who chose to look the other way
John Kerry The LOSER ... ' I am Ready for Duty !!!! '
Caroline Kennedy who puts Obama on the same alter with
Her Father ( of Course ) and Martin Luther King...
Are the american public Dreaming or just plain Dumb.
Oprah Winfrey ... Silent since she said the supported him
because many of her viewers are white middle class women, and can she afford to lose them !!!!!
GOP will make mince meat of Obama...
Lets get sane and select a winner ....
We dont need another Bush Clone in the White House
Ishwar , Edison, New Jersey
She isn't breaking any rules. I think it's rich for any politician to accuse any other politician of spin as such. I personally think Clinton is exaggerating the importance of the Florida result but if it helps her campaign to flaunt it as an indicator of victory, all Obama supporter's can do is grumble and hope it doesn't fool anyone. Fair's fair.
Jak Marshall, Lancaster, Great Britain
If the US is seriously seeking successful International Relations, shouldn't Americans be considering who the following world leaders want as President? You should not ignore the preferences and opinions of Pres. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Pres. Hugo Chavez, Kim II-Sung, President Putin, Hu Jintao etc.
liam f., geneva., switzerland.
The Total Story
What is not being reported outside of Florida is that there was a ballot question on property taxes. Property taxes is a HUGE issue here in Florida. Almost 500,000 independents turned out to vote even though they could not vote for any Republican or Democrat. The BIG issue was Property Tax Amendment 1 on Property Assessments. We probably had more ads on TV and more coverage in the newspaper on this issue than what all the Republicans spent put together. Without this Property Tax Amendment on the ballot, I'm sure the turn out on both sides would not have been at record levels.
Democrats voting 1,725,264
Republicans voting 1,925,911
Independents voting 462,438
Brian, Melbourne, FL, USA
It's just a shame that the media won't give Ron Paul a chance. There is the man we need as President. It's time we have someone in the oval office who actually cares about what the constitution says. Lower taxes, smaller government, civil liberties, and you know he means it because he has lived it his whole life.
Oh..and to Lynne from Australia.
Can the world elect your officials too? This is an American election. Although foreign policy is important, so are issues that affect us domestically. America has to do what is right for America first. Can you really say it's any different down under?
Scott Rhoades, Ashland, PA
This build-up and the coming election are sad on many levels.
First of all, that in the US (like the UK), voters effectively only have a choice of one of two parties. Surely democracy is about representing the views of the people? And surely there are more than two views? Secondly, that all this money is being spent on election campaigns in a country were healthcare is a commodity.
Lisa, London,
Prior to 2004 I had never heard of Barack Obama. Then in 2004 he gives an eloquent speech at the Democratic convention. Then I don't hear anything about him again until the time prospective candidates start exploring the possibility of running. What the heck has he done in his career (other than give a good speech) that makes him deserve my vote? When I seriously consider voting for a political candidate, they've usually had at least a somewhat impressive record of achievement to indicate they can do the job. What does Obama have? Oh yeah. Heâs the candidate of change. Wow, imagine thatâ¦.no solid achievements to indicate he can actually implement change in Washington. All you need to do is just âhopeâ and it will happen. I really want to see this magic wand Obama is going to wave across Capitol Hill to force this change to happen. Or, maybe he has a pair of magic shoes and just needs to click his heels. Or, maybe he'll pull a Norma Rae move and stand on the roof of the White House with a sign that says âCHANGE.â Sorry, when it comes to electing someone to the most powerful job in the world, I'm not going to pick someone full of nice-sounding rhetoric, but not much in his background to back-up that he can actually achieve the change he speaks of.
Junehilary, Colonial Heights, USA
I can't help but think that Obama is all style and little substance. He's good-looking and charismatic, yes, but is that enough? Can he really stand a full-scale Republican onslaught? The Clintons are right to raise the issue of Rezko, because this clearly dodgy associate of and donor to Obama will be heavily used by the Republicans. Hillary has proved she can give as good as she takes from the Carl Rove Mob. You need strength and experience even more than good looks and charisma. Hand on heart, we know Hillary is more likely to trounce McCain.
Russell, London, UK
I read Bret's from Chicargo's comment, I wonder if any Body in America realise as yet that regardless of what any body may say about Obama, he is not G W Bush, and one must remember it was not the world who voted for G W BUSH they were all American. Now the Country is empty every one is desperate to find some one else, it may well end up like the last time, only this time it will be a WAR in IRAN and Economic melt down, and the war going on in Iraq & Afganistan as well. When people was voting for the worst President in History since Hitler, no one said he is not suitable, they found out the hard way. Obama is not the man to be critical of, it is your current leader who has lead America from one desaster to another. This Experience thing, did G W Bush have experience his dad was in the White House, so was Bill Clinton, and here we go History repeating it self, here comes Hillary, people on a power trip. I don't doubt she will win but she will be over looked by the Country & McCain wins
Daphne Kenward, Cambridge, United Kingdom
I am a registered independant. Obama has no substance at all when he speaks." What I relly mean" should be his campaign slogan. I have not heard or read anything that suggest his stance on any issue. We as Americans especeally in these times need someone who has a clue about what is going on in the world. The endorsement by Kennedy is his last hoorah. He is looking for some kind of pay back. I will vote for Clinton in November. If not her, I will go with the Republican no matter who it is.
PJO, Portland, Maine
I think the press is bias and quickly distorts statements against Hillary, i.e. Hillary introducing Charles Rangle said "He has made it through hard work to where he is today and not through leaps and bounds" while she was congratulating him. The press quickly insinuated that she was referring to Obama and created an issue out of it. Who is supporting the press in these tactics and why? Is it designed to put Obama to run with McCain so the republicans can spit out Obama and then they will be back in power? What public form is available for average citizen to gather their family to tell people who they support to swing votes as the Kennedy's do?
Obama crying fowl play because he lost Florida is typical example of how he would react in dealing with issues at home and on international level.
While I admire Obama for his courage and wit I am concerned about his safety.
Doreen Gooden, Philadelphia, US
I heard Hilary talking about her "victory" on National Public Radio last night, and at the end the interviewer pointed out to her - correctly - that during the interview she had been saying "what we will do as President".
The interviewer asked if this meant that she's aiming for a co-Presidency with Bill, and after a moment's silence she simply denied having said any such thing.
Not her finest hour, I thought.
jon livesey, Sunnyvale, CA/USA
`Will someone explain for me the "35 years of experience"Was hillary running the governorship and the presidency while bill philandered?? That could explain about 16 years --what are the rest. -- her medical plan was a fiasco The main problem though,with the billary teamis that they are chameleons who change positions to further goals.ti respond to one your correspondents--I am an average midwesterner, white female,80 years a democrat who will indeed defect to McCain if the billarys are the democratic party's nominees. We've had enoughcheating, manipulation and lying for during the past 16years. (how soon we forget) ITS TIME FOR CHANGE111
patricia underwood md, Tucson, Arizona
American people wake up!
Bush-Clinton-Bush-?
What have these dynasties achieved?
Increased war, poverty, climate change and third-world suffering.
If you think that this was not intended by these dynasties then pull your from out their...
They've had a quarter of a century in control of the worlds greatest superpower during its, arguably, most developed period, and they've achieved relatively very little in terms civilized progress.
American people have the best potential to make a real difference to the world, and so humanity.
Please wake up, smell the coffee, do some research and try to understand whats really going on.
Things will not improve until they change!
Obama is offering change, voting for him is voting for change.
Mike, West Midlands, England
As I am certain that Lynne from Sydney would not welcome interference in Australian elections she should not be surprised that Americans will regard her remarks as, at the very least, impolite, and at the worst impertinent. It is no business of hers whether Americans mix up religion and politics. The incompetence and criminal madness of the present administration has truly been a misery for the world, but it is for Americans to resolve. She might also note that the opprobrium directed at Americans (and fairly often by Australians) is so directed for precisely those reasons. Give Lynne a vote, is she willing to live with the harsh reality when the vote doesn't go her way?
Alex Smith, Paris, France
Lynne from Sydney: 'I say the world votes for your leader'... 'Who cares about the candidates - they are mere puppets pushed and pulled by a large machine.'
So, Lynne, all you want to do is sustitute your 'machine' for the current one. What hypocrisy. And this is a new one for the Loony Left: The US is to blame for 'China/Taiwan' what ever that means. Bless.
GL40, London,
Come on Hillary baby, show 'em how it's done !
An American Woman
Jeannette, Baltimore, MD USA
I am so sick and tired of Obama presenting himself as the "Messiah" who will "reform the country" from red states and blue states to the "united states." Let's all have a big group hug, shall we? That'll get our constitutional rights restored, end the war in Iraq, pay down the deficit, repeal tax cuts for the wealthy, and build the middle class, right? Why didn't we think of a group hug and "uniting" the blue and red states a long time ago? What brilliance, eh? Americans are so easily manipulated by the press who's pushing this "Son of Camelot" Savior because the Republican controlled press knows he'll lose the general election. To assume otherwise is to deny the fact that racism (despicable as it is) exists. Gore lost to George W by a few thousand votes. Do you really think that there is no racism in the democratic half of the electorate? Get real. A vote for Obama is a vote for McCain.
Liz, Madison, WI
First of all to Grant. All parties running agreed not to campaign in Florida and Hillary is tring to go against that, as Clintons do. I think you should ask yourself who is more electable; someone with bagage from the nineties or a fresh, inspir5ing, motivationalist, which Sen. Obama is. The republicans has so much ammo on the Clintons that it will end up costing us the White House. Whats more foolish is the ignorance to this fact. I find it appallling that Americans would want to relieve the nineties and not enter in to the new century by showing the international community that we have moved on from racial, political, and religious Divide. Barack Obama offers us a chance to move out of America's dark times and become a light to the world. Why aren't "we" as americans, ready to embrace full change? After all is that what this country needs to heal? I challenge everyone to look above politics and vote with your heart., if you love this country , think about our kids future at stake
Edward Hamilton, Sioux city, Iowa
it the vote were for prom king i would have to go with obama, but the oval office is not a place for on the job training.
bret, chicago, usa / illinois
The more I learn about Sen. Hillary Clinton the more I like her. She is smart, hard âworking, good strategist, exceptionally well spoken. She is good politician. She knows the rules of this game and plays it well.
Obama is slow learner, he can not speak unprepared, and he is immature. I would say: I am disappointing in him more and more every day. He is trying to be likable, but I think, he lost it.
Right now we need somebody like Hillary. I will vote for her.
Viki, Portland, OR
As a person who is watching the election process closely I have a question - wouldn't it be spectacular if people around the world could vote for the American President given that this position and its lackeys influence everything that is happening in the lives of most humans on the planet via the many 'agencies' or thru' direct/indirect conflict and/or support of various country governments etc etc?
When I read words like 'good ole boys', 'endorsements','religion', 'colour'...I wonder which planet you Americans are living on? Iraq war? What about your 'finger' in Pakistan? What about Taiwan/China? What about India? What about ....we know where your country has its finger in many pies.
I say all citizens of the world should vote for your President so we can all select the best PARTY to lead the world! Let's talk WORLD issues. Who cares about the candidates - they are mere puppets pushed and pulled by a large machine.
I say the world votes for your leader.
Lynne, Sydney , Australia
It must be remembered that John F Kennedy was NOT a great president. It is bad enough that the US has to suffer incompetent Presidents(the latest being Bush) but the world pays a high price
when US administration takes a high moral(religious ground supported by various antediluvian groups) and goes to war. After the Second World War every war of The US has been disastrous if one does not count invasions of tiny islands. It is time that the US electorate votes on the basis of sensible policies a candidate espouses rather than vague rhetoric. It is time that failed leaders like Ted Kennedy and Kerry pack up their political bags.For Obama this sort of support is like Sindbad's sailor
Acharya, bangalore, India
Hillary is being looked upon as the bad women cause she is tough and smart in a man's world! Im sorry but Obama is an inexperienced candidate! The world today needs an experienced leader not someone who writes good lyrics and builds castles in the air! My vote together with the people from Asia Pacific Vote for: HILLARY CLINTON!
B Gillman, Singapore, Singapore
Wake up everyone. Who votes in primaries? Only people who are paying attention to the contest. So to say that voters only knew of Clinton going into Florida's primary because of name recognition and because the others did not campaign there, is more than an overstatement!
If you think about the million voters who participated in Florida and realize that number is a fraction of registered democrat voters in the state, you start to realize that the primaries are not necessarily national indicators. Obama would lose big in Florida in November. Democrats who vote in primaries (ie. those that are more engaged in the contest) are clearly divided, therefore Obama has little chance of getting the nomination. Even if he did somehow get the nomination, does anyone doubt that the average midwestern white democrat would defect to McCain or another Republican? In the end the delegates will certainly go to Hillary if the Dem. Party wants a fighting chance at the White House.
C. Gioia, NY, NY
It is a myth that Obama is not divisive ... there are a lot of people who really do not like him ... they are just not making as much noise!
Besides ... the media is also single-handedly supporting him!
Nick, London, UK
She is on the way to the White house it is written in the stars.
D Case, Newquay,
Clinton has once again proven she can't be trusted. She signed the pledge to not campaign in Florida. She then went through the back door to do it in secret. If that isn't bad enough she then waited to see what the outcome of the election would be before she said she would fight for Florida delegates to be seated. If she had come out from the beginning and said that it would be one thing. Florida was not a level playing field becuase noone but her campaigned. Coming out after the fact and saying what she has said when it will only benefit her campaign is disgusting self serving bs. Timing is everything. She is making a great divide in the diemocratic party right when we need to stand togehter to work towards a better america. Please she her self serving bs for what it is a slap in the face to all democrats.
tsp, reno, nv
Not a snub, and Hillary's move to catch the limelight in Florida was very smart....and her response to the "snub" was.....well just too slick for my taste.
Andy, San Fransisco, California
Congratulations to The Times UK for calling the opponent of Illinois U.S. Sen. Barack H. Obama for the 2008 Democrat presidential nomination what she really is, The former First Lady.
Had Ross Perot not split the reactionary vote in 1992 with incumbent President George Herbert Walker Bush, Slick Willy Clinton would have been remembered as the guy who made a verbose keynote speech at the 1988 Democrat National Convention instead of the guy who sold out the Democrat Party's labor union base with his support for the North America Free Trade Agreement and General Agreement Trade Treaty. The former First Lady is a mirror image of her deceptive spouse thus she is unworthy of support from the party's bedrock labor union base which had been victimized by the Clintons' renown pragmatic poll watching.
Terrence T. DeShone, Elkhart , USA/ Indiana 46514-245317
If you all did not recall we were all for the war in Iraq at first until we started to see the truth. I have nothing against Obama but I do not know of anything he has done before now. But, I do know Hillary has a great track record for fighting for the people. She has always fought for funding for schooling our troops (saw her at Walter Reid) and numerous other things she has fought for. Hillary has always stuck her neck on the line for the people and when and when the critics took shots at her she made no appologies and kept fighting. She has always worked with minorties and backed us. - Obama on the other hand didn't even go after the minority vote until "we" started started backing him! - Hill is great. These are things she has always done and will continue to do even if she is not elected... That's why she got my vote!
Nikki, Richmond, US / VA
I dont attempt to understand the american way of choosing the nominees but it is great theatre. And to have a black man competing against a white woman, fantastic it just shows how bland our politicians are now.
peterb , winsford, cheshire
Hilary will be the next American President.
She doesn't come from a perfect home. She does come from experience.
Sounds American to me.
Politics are indeed a farce. Barack Obama would be adding insult to injury. If the US manages to avoid a citizen's revolt, Hilary will be President, and she will do an excellent job.
We're rooting for you north of the 49th, Hilary. Keep it up, eh?
Joey Tavares, Toronto, Canada
By staging a victory party in Florida's Primary, once again the Clintons give another slap in the face to the Democratic Party and prove that they think they are above the law, that they do not have to follow the rules laid down by others, the Democratic National Committee, or that they can change the way the game is played in mid-stream. Hillary Clinton spoke at the staged victory party and called it "a robust election" yet she was the only one at the party. It is this kind of behavior and attitudes which will show, the measure of their true future worth, and how they will govern. It was a humorous and sad spectacle to witness, as they tried to dupe the people into thinking that black is white, when there really was no contest and the Edwards and Obama people had not been on the ground, so there was actually no fair playing ground. BUT WHO WANTS TO PLAY FAIR?
bacalove, Philadelphia, Pa
Obama did not snub Hillary or act unfriendly toward her at the State of the Union. He was asked a question by Claire McCaskill, a senator from Missouri the moment Hillary shook hands with Kennedy. So in that picture that is being proliferated on the net, he was just answering a question.
Chris Redford, Lawrence, KS
Clinton is the MOST divisive candidate in this race, and will screw this up for us if she becomes our nominee for president. I say this because if you listen to republicans talk for any period of time longer than a minute it seems that the three things they hate the most are Terrorists, Illegal immigrants, and Hillary Clinton. Someone like McCain could easily have a huge advantage in November. Clinton on the other hand, it just seem that people either love her or can't stand her (Including Democrats) . On Tuesday Please vote wisely, I know I don't want four more years of Republican B. S. and I really don't want to relive the 90's either. We Desperately NEED a President that can unite us not one that helped drive the wedge that split us. Thank You, and please think about this.
Bryan Collier, St. Louis, MO
Sen. Obama is in a mess now. After taking almost 3 million in campaign contributions in Florida he now says they don't count, despite his message of inclusion.
If he wins how does he go back into Florida and get the support of democrats he took money from and then rejected?
Grant Cameron, winnipeg, Canada
I think Obama will be the best man this time history of the US.
Sydney, CAPE TOWN, SOUHT AFRICA
Obama was not a gentleman to refuse a warm handshake from a great lady. We are beginning to see how his international policy of reaching out to friendly and unfriendly world leaders will work and inspiring this great nation to rise above pettiness. Let me also note that endorsements seem to be political vendetta, at least as the justifications have indicated. Oratorial skill is a virtue but not looking forward to the difficulty of bringing this nation together and we have seen a failed grade in the Mrs. Clinton was ostracized in this process. How many more things are we going to be doubtful about Obama.
Chris, Dacula, Georgia/US
Great article: Hillary Clinton: The New Nixon? (alternet.org/election08/75233)
Hillary's stunning [N.H.] victory was on the books for mere minutes before we were all suddenly reminded of all the reasons we came to hate the Clintons over the years - why there were scores of smart people who by Nov. 2000 were actually willing to vote for Ralph Nader rather than go anywhere near the Democratic Party. Seven years is, it turns out, a long time, just long enough to forget that Clinton fatigue is what saddled us with George Bush in the first place.
The crying incident was Hillary's own personal Checkers speech, a painful bit of self-mutilation tossed off on the last step before the political gallows -- a pure sea-cucumber tactic, scaring us off with a display of vulnerable green guts. We missed the chance to finish her off; now she's back in charge, setting the tone for a campaign that gets meaner and dirtier by the day. Thanks to you, New Hampshire, the Clintons still have us to kick around.
Stan, Tokyo,
My question is tihs, if Hillary wins as president who will be running it ? Bill or Hillary?
Carla, Charlotte , North Carolina
Obama for changes????
He accepts endorsement from the Kennedy family... GREAT CHANGE YOU CAN SEE!!!
Obama returned the money, after the press make it public,... Do these actions sound like change to you?
It is all about power ... not "ideology" to make our country better
Hope, Miami, FL
This is pure and unadulterated spin from the Clinton Machine. Business as usual. We are sick of it. The Florida vote is nothing more than name recognition. (Easy enough to achieve when you are a former co-President.) Nobody campaigned there, and so a bulk of the voters know next to nothing about Obama and Edwards. Shame on the press for boosting the "famous" candidate as they have been doing for the past 12 months.
Judy, Boston, MA
This is the time for change in USA, and I believe that the agent of change is Barack Obama. As the powerfull Senator Kennedy has said " Obama is the change " that we need for today and tomorrow. Yes he is.
Next thing is that the Democratic Party should penalize Mrs Hillary for disregarding her pledge to not campagning in Florida and that its delegates won't be counted. She showed clearly that if by any chances she becomes unfortunatly the president of USA, she won't respect all the promises she made to her voters, to the nation. So I think that all the democrats, even all the republicans, all the voters even those who have already voted for her should take action against her.
Today's for the true values, for hope in persons, hope in political programs, hope in the future. Hillary has indicated that she doesn't deserve anything in the nation hope. Obama is that person who inspires us that hope that everybody needs at this time of the History of United States.
Reyo, Brooklyn, New York
What, do the Obama people think that voters don't count now? If he becomes the nominee, he'll regret saying that. What the Obama campaign is wilfully overlooking is that there were more democratic voters that participated in this primary than in 2004's primary.
Get over it, Obama, Hillary won fair and square. She didn't campaign there -AND- Obama bought national ads that aired in Florida! Now, Obama didn't violate DNC rules, however, he did have ads airing their nonetheless. He had an advantage over Hillary and she still won. Just goes to show that there is no momentum from SC going into Super Duper Tuesday.
Jose, New York, NY, USA
Actually the democrats couldnt campaign in Florida and none of them did. Hillary went there as a victory. (she did get 50% with no campaigning) No one seems to think ahead.. After the primarys are over Florida Democratic votes will be needed to beat repulicans. Instead of making enemy we should be standing together. I think and know that Hillary can win in Florida... something Obama cant do.
deb-reno, reno, nev
Hillary is the only candidate ready and bold enough to be president. I agree with the other reader, why can't anyone see through Obama's arrogance and whining? I guess it's the same reason they didn't see thru George Bush's arrogance until it was too late. Plus, Obama and Dick Cheney are cousins. Do you really think the apples fall that far from the tree?
Ashley Johnson, Washington , DC
anyone who says barrack obama is inexperienced is a fool. he has more experience as an ellected official than Hillary Clinton does. Eight in the Illinois senate passing bipartisan supprted legislation should count for more than not reforming healthcare in the nineties. He has 11 years experience as a legislator compared to hillary's 7. His experience comes at the state level and the national level, which important in leading a country. That and he actually listens to questions and answers them, has better judgment (i.e. Iraq), and won't lose to John McCain makes him by and far the best candidate for president since John Kennedy.
Jon, watervliet, michigan
It's amazing how the ones saying Obama have no experience as themain reason for supporting Hillary YET Hillary voted for the war in Iraq yet SAYS she's against it. I am a person who views action and not words. Hillary was in a postition to DO SOMETHING and she did it--alright. Isn't it disturbing that Sen. Clinton has received more money than any other candidate of either party from the big defense contractors, according to a report on the Huffington Post? Hillary's supporters have accepted Clinton's refusal to repudiate her vote to authorize the war, an ignominious moment she shares with other Democrats, including presidential candidate John Edwards, who at least has made a point of regretting it. It was a vote that has led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, some 3, 940 U.S. service members - five more on Monday - and a debt in the trillions of dollars that will prevent the funding of needed domestic programs that Clinton claims to support. Actions vs rhetoric.
CB, Grvl., SC
Who honestly thinks Clinton would have done the same as what Obama did below?
From Bill Richardson on something that happened at one of the debates:
"I had just been asked a question -- I don't remember which one -- and Obama was sitting right next to me. Then the moderator went across the room, I think to Chris Dodd, so I thought I was home free for a while. I wasn't going to listen to the next question. I was about to say something to Obama when the moderator turned to me and said, 'So, Gov. Richardson, what do you think of that?' But I wasn't paying any attention! I was about to say, 'Could you repeat the question? I wasn't listening.' But I wasn't about to say I wasn't listening. I looked at Obama. I was just horrified. And Obama whispered, 'Katrina. Katrina.' The question was on Katrina! So I said, 'On Katrina, my policy . . .' Obama could have just thrown me under the bus. So I said, 'Obama, that was good of you to do that.'"
Brett Champion, Alexandria, Virginia, US
Hillary Clinton is no more experience than Barrack Obama. She has 7 years in ellected office compared to his 11 years (8 in ili. sen. and 3 in US Sen). His judgment and understanding of issues is superior, and he listens to questions and answaers them. Time and time again Barrack has stood alone on issues only to have people join him when it is too late, like Iraq. That is the kind of vision we need as a leader, not another talking head like Clinton.
Jon, watervliet, michigan
People who are so ready to blast Senator Barack Obama just because he is different and young does not make him a poor candidate in the Presidential race. By the way how old was Bill Clinton and how experienced was he when he run the same race?
Obama is for change and he stands for everything that one would look for in a future President of the USA, he is the future.
Mary Quesnell is "disgusted and disillusioned" with Sen. Kennedy and his family's endorsement - wow - strong adjectives! Is she insinuating that she knows more that him? She praises the "Clintons" and places them high on a pedestal, however can you recall that it was only because of Bill Clinton that the Democrats lost their seat in the Senate back in the day??!! She also forgets that Hillary after having pledged to not campaign in Flordida goes back on her word and now wants to claim otherwise. Just like she has gone back on her word on several other topics.
Barack Obama is the candidate for President NOW
Audrey Thompson, Alexandria, Louisiana
People talk about inexperience and I have to laugh when Bush "The Puppet" is our president. Before he was elected, this guy had only been to two other countries outside the U.S. TWO!!! and one of them was Canada.
Mike, Silver Spring, MD,
Diane Lander-Simon: "I think Hillary Clinton is one smart classy lady..."
Classy!? You can call her many things, some good, some bad, but classy ain't one of them.
Frederick Davies, Oxford, UK
I find it amusing the way everyone in America seems to be swooning over Barack Obama, especially given how petulant he is and so inexperienced. Frankly, I think Hillary Clinton is one smart classy lady and I feel certain sanity and her candidacy will prevail. She will make an excellent President and Bill will be a fine First Gentleman.
Diane Lander-Simon, Los Angeles, CA
dear lyon, from ohio, you must really be behind obama
to the point you can't spell his name.
james, london,
Do the CIA and NSA want the Clintons back in the White House? No. You have been warned.
Alison , Severn, MD
From everything I have read, heard, and experienced, Hillary is the best choice for our next president.
tim brown, shelbyville, ky
Just look at who the money men are supporting. That's where your next president is. If they don't like the actual result, they'll chnage it, like they did for GWB! In America I beleive you use a computerised voting system. How convenient, a little code change here, a hack there and hey presto, our man (or woman) wins, because teh computer says so.
Ron, Milton Keynes, Bucks
I'm not American and I don't pretend to know their politics nor the problems they face everyday but everytime Hilary comes on my TV, I just want to switch off! She is horrible! Fake should read as a description of Hilary in the dictionary.
Kim, London,
For those who are supporting Hillary, how is she going to beat sen. John McCain while she has agreed all of the things that he stood for during the Iraq war and also latest Iranian revolutionary guard resolution which authorized George W. Bush to wage war against Iran?
Hillary did not millions who were opposed to Iraq war when she voted for a resolution that she did not even read. Is this an experience come'n?
Support Barrack and we will retake our country back.
Lyon, Columbus, Ohio
That screeching voice from Hilary, her Florida speech was once again like most of her campaign anything to get Power! not for the sake of the Country and service but simply herself. Everything is an act from Hilary it was pointed out on TV this morning something I had noticed every appearance the same performance, smiles and then pointing to people, how false.
America needs CHANGE not the dynasty & negative campaigning of the Billy & Hilary Roadshow, only BARACK OBAMA can deliver a UNITED States of America!
John B Sheffield, Newton, LA
I think the key word here is ardent (feeling great passion, or felt very passionately) I Think Senator Kennedy has the right feel the same way. Let's not feel so passionate about our rights that we tread on the rights of others.
Erv , Titusville,
Democracy calls for supporting whomever you wish. Kudos to those such as Ted Kennedy that have been able to take a position publicly, without fear. Regardless of who you support, have the guts to state your choice, its your right, and don't let anyone, including those commenting on here, tell you your pick is wrong. A vote can never be wrong, if you voted for the one that you truly support. That is democracy.
Rick, Vancouver, Canada
Clinton is not the American's only hope but she is Amrican's BEST hope!
eddie, KL, WP
Hooray for the Governor of Kansas for recognizing and welcoming home a true (grand)son of the mid-West and of Kansas. It is from his maternal family, the family that nurtured and raised him, that he inherits his calm, moderation, decency, and innate sense of fairness. Thank you, Kansas, for giving the American people your native (grand)son.
shirlin, eureka, california
This is a political election and we need to expect the candidates to compete. Let's hope that they can each put forth their best effort, be fair and truthful, and inspire us to be better than we are. So far the only candidate who meets those expectations is Barack Obama. These are extraordinary times and we need an extraordinary leader. Barack is the one.
Cynthia, Westlake Village,
I'm backing Hillary because I admire her as a person. I believe she has the right mix of talents, strengths, and priorities to bring the country in a new and better direction. I don't like a lot of "democratic" views, and I dislike an equal amount of "republican" views as well..... So it comes down to which person can bring us as a nation to a better point, and avoid the worst of either party.
I was willing to listen to obama at first, but I truly feel that while he has a lot of wonderful ideas and idealistic hopes, that's all he's got. I think he'd get eaten alive in serious politics.
I've also seen him change his entire bearing, demeanor, speech patterns, and to all appearances his priorities depending which state he's currently in....(and the racial percentates of the voting electorate as well)
I feel like he is too wrapped up in minority issues to be able to balance international politics. Our country needs someone to lead the entire nation.
julie, Concord , NH
All this arrogant 'bashing' of Bill Clinton is disgraceful.
President Clinton when he left office, left a financially solvent economy and the good wishes of most of the country. Regardless, of the scandal, that, supposedly blighted, the last days of his Presidency, his goodwill , among Americans, was high.
Most people forget, that ,President Kennedy was a notorious womaniser, at one stage, sharing a mistress with a Mafia boss.
I, for one, admire, Bill Clinton's protective attitude, towards his wife.
Onward and upward Hillary and Bill of course!!
prudence eely bond mcguire, LONDON, ENGA\ND UK.
Yeah, Barack is a real Kansas boy! Get Real!
Paula, Dallas, TX
Kennedys are OLD news Especially Ted! thats obas change> we dont want to listen to an old angry man like ted backing obama only to get back at Bill Clinton. Shows how shallow he is and isnt in touch with modrn world...
let vote for the best and thats Hillary hands down! Obama is a racist cry baby
amy, OR, FL
I saw that clip and as Ted Kennedy reached out a hand to Hillary Clinton, Obama turned around because someone asked him a question. There was no snub.
It's awful that people want to believe these things.
Joan, Quispamsis, Canada
Well "Mary" I guess your last sentence breaks your motives down quite well. It's not about "good ol' boys" against a woman. It's about a new direction. Please set aside that reverse you know what and think outside the box.
Lamar Bland, Hazelwood, Mo.
Regarding the previous post, are the party's "good ol' boys" more likely to elect a black president?
The "experience" argument has been what has kept this country electing corrupt career politicians for far too long. Obama embodies the drastic change in leadership our country needs.
Steve, Manalapan, NJ
And if you have your opinion why can't they? What's a bit of influence for if you can't wield it? It seems rather naive to suggest that politicians shouldn't meddle in politics. And as far as 'good old boys' go, doesn't Hillary have one of the biggest there is in Bill Clinton? The whole campaign has become so far removed from any practical or real issues -- such as health care. I give Hillary Clinton that one. Or the war in Iraq -- I give that one to Barack Obama. Let the candidate with the best platform win. And, of course, let the Republicans lose no matter what!
G., London,
John Kerry and Ted Kennedy need to address the extremism of Mr. Obama's church. We do not need anyone in the White House who has extremist views - religion or otherwise. It is time to put someone in the White House who can lead the country forward and away from extremism and divisive rhetoric. Every voter needs to do research for themselves and find what is not being said. This should not mean voting for someone just because they are female or black - do the groundwork as anyone like our current President would be a disaster. Look out for the wolf in sheep's clothing. Endorsing a candidate from your own party should not mean dumping on the ones you don't back. Grow up and let the people vote.
Robyn Hoffmann, Atlanta, GA
Mary, I think you misunderstand. Obama is simply inspiring, and you'd see he DOES have the experience equivalent to H. Clinton's, if you only took the time to investigate.
Obama has endorsements, as does every other candidate. It's not the end of the world. Senator Kennedy is not beholden unto H. Clinton, and neither is the Democratic Party. It would be a shame if she won the nomination without a formidable opponent : )
Every candidate running for the presidency has "an inflated opinion" of themselves... they have to, in order to weather attacks from their opponent's fans. H. Clinton is a shining example.
As my grandmother likes to say: "I'd rather make C's and B's in a hard school, than straight A+'s in an easy one".
H. Clinton may have,
B. Clinton may have,
but God bless the candidate
who's got his own...
Question: if H. Clinton were a man, would you want her as your president... are you supporting her simply because she is a woman?
We're ready for THE RIGHT woman pres.
Inonge Khabele-Stevens, Austin, TX
Obama does not deserve to be President based on his lack of experience. The gullible people who are buying into his slick eloquence are so easily swayed that they probably can't stand up for their own convictions. Change doesn't mean putting a person that we hardly know anything about into office. At this rate, a person with unscrupulous ulterior motives can be placed into office as long as they are articulate and obtain celebrity support. Wake up people--you should be looking at what a person has accomplished or what experience they have to truly make an educated decision. Otherwise you are basing your decision on sheer histrionics--who can be the most convincing actor or actress? The fact that Obama has not voted on many issues and is listed as merely "present" is scary enough. What bases are you using for your support other than believing all the hype? Thankfully there are a lot of critical thinkers out there who aren't as easily swayed.
Rosie, Honolulu, Hawaii
Mary
Don't worry. Hillary will be fine without Kennedy or Kerry. I think she'll do well on Super Tuesday.
goldenstate, Torrance,
I am an ardent supporter of Hillary Clinton. I have been busy today expressing my displeasure with the Kennedy and Kerry endorsements of Obama.
The following is what I sent to Senator Kennedy:
Your endorsement of Barack Obama and subsequent fanfare have left me disgusted and disillusioned with you and the democratic process. Of all times in our history, we need someone capable and prepared to take on all the challenges awaiting the next president. Hillary Clinton embodies everything in a serious leader our country so desperately needs. Barack's lack of experience and inflated opinion of himself remind me of a George Bush with fancy oratory.
Whatever games you are playing with Bill Clinton don't let it hurt our country. Why can't you step back and let the nominating process work and let your fellow Democrats make up their own mind.
As a faithful democrat I hate to say this but it looks like some of the partyâs "good ol' boys" are not ready to have a woman leader.
Mary Quesnell, Kennewick, Washington