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Hillary Clinton’s rally yesterday was brought to its feet with a blast of theme music from the Rocky movies — filmed in nearby Philadelphia — that tell the story of an underdog boxer battling against the odds and refusing to go down.
So it is with her campaign. Despite being bloodied in round after round of her bout with Barack Obama, Mrs Clinton keeps coming back off the ropes — more aggressive and determined than ever before.
In Harrisburg yesterday, in front of 1,700 people, she revelled in her new role. When her microphone failed, she fetched another. When she briefly had a coughing fit, a woman shouted: “You can do it, Hillary!” And she did.
She scorned the gap between Mr Obama’s “talk and action”, citing recent comments from his advisers, which cast doubt on his policies over trade and Iraq. “If you talk, you’d better mean what you say,” she declared.
Mississippi had been abandoned long before it voted yesterday. Instead, Mrs Clinton preferred to spend her time here in Pennsylvania, which hosts a primary in six weeks and — like Ohio and Texas last week — has become a must-win contest for her.
Pennsylvania, where the Battle of Gettysburg helped to settle the American Civil War, could help resolve the Democratic fight if she loses on April 22. Mr Obama is confident that he will remain on course for the nomination even if Mrs Clinton prevails here. “We’re not a believer in symbolic wins,” says the campaign manager, David Plouffe, who repeatedly refers to “the math” that shows that she cannot close a 100-plus elected delegate gap before the convention.
This has, however, become almost a badge of pride for Mrs Clinton’s campaign. She will not give up — and her stump speech these days is littered with references to hard-working, fighting qualities, which, as in Ohio, go down well with this electorate.
Some even describe Pennsylvania as “Penn-hio” because the demographic make-up is so similar to the scene of her victory last week. It suits her that this state is older, more working class than the rest of America — and whiter — with few black people to be seen at either her rally in Harrisburg or a later meeting in Philadelphia.
Mrs Clinton has the backing of the local political Establishment including the Governor, Ed Rendell, and Michael Nutter, the black Mayor of Philadelphia — who supports her even though the large African American population of his city and its prosperous liberal suburbs are seen as fertile ground from Mr Obama.
Another factor in her favour is the roots that her father’s family, the Rodhams, laid deep in this state. On Monday night she spoke in Scranton — a town chosen as the fictional location for the US version of the sitcom The Office — where she reminisced about summer holidays spent near by at her family’s Lake Winola cottage.
As Christopher Doherty, the Mayor of Scranton, put it: “She’s tough. That’s a real Scranton trait. That’s an anthracite trait.”
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Hillary-fight on! You represent women in US! You are the only candidate for US!
Ken, London, UK
Republicans have always been for the rich!!!! come on clinton win won for us middle class. Go Democtrats!!!
wanda, onaway, Mi.
It's time for the democrats to win. Rep. are for and always will be only for the rich...
wanda, onaway, Mi.
Hillary may be a fighter, but she's fighting for her own selfish personal reasons to prove she's worthy of her self-proclaimed regality, rather than striving for the best interests of our country. She's trying to prove to herself that she's better than second best, and for some reason, she believes that this experience will give her that validation. Surprise! Life doesn't work that way!
Dr. Fred, Hometown, USA
YAY, HILLARY FOR BEING THE FIGHTER YOU ARE!!!!!
All of you out there who are so negative about Hillary are simply products of the media outlets who have conditioned you for such a long, long time to bash her, as you do. HELLO, OUT THERE!!!! This is a democracy, which is exactly the reason why these two candidates are still battling - not one of them has reached that magic number of delegates!!!! Each one of them has the right to battle on!!!! OPEN YOUR EYES!!!! THE ONLY REASON OBAMA SEEMS SO "CHARMED" TO YOU IS BECAUSE HE'S BEEN TREATED WITH KID GLOVES BY THE MEDIA - MC CAIN AND THE REPUBLICANS CAN'T WAIT TO GET THEIR HANDS ON HIS TOTAL LACK OF EXPERIENCE; THEY CAN'T WAIT TO SH-SH-SHRED HIM TO PIECES!!!!
FIGHT, HILLARY, FIGHT!!!!
PATRICIA, Lake Arrowhead, USA/CA
It doesn't matter if it is Hillary or Barrack. Democrats WILL LOOSE the elections in November...
Corriveau, Quebec, Canada
As a Canadian, I have been impressed by Senator Obama. The whole world is watching this race. Internationally, if Obama is bullied out of the nomination after carrying the best popular vote, most assigned delegate vote and most States, the US will be looked upon a lot less favorably abroad.
How can America promote "Democracy" world wide yet demonstrate to the world they do not really practice what they preach?
All this talk about superdelegates really puts true Democracy on the defensive.
Look at the international reception about Senator Obama! His popularity worldwide is unprecidented. If the U.S. political system bullies Obama out of contention, the world will have a lot less regard for the U.S.
If the U.S. political system bullies Obama out of contention, the world will judge the U.S. as a nation of hypocrits.
If you take pride in "every vote counts" then why doesn't that philosophy ring true with Senator Obama.
Practice what you preach internationally please.
Doug , Powell River,
Hillary WILL do or say ANYTHING to get elected. I heard, and now I see, that all her top people took a page from Karl Rove's play book and it's showing. There is an undertone of racism and fear mongering in her campaign.
Hillary has really NO experience in foreign policy and to say otherwise is laughable.
Think about another Clinton White House. Who will she surround her self with? The same old tired characters who are owed something and the same chaotic White House we saw during Bill's time.
I am a liberal Dem who actually liked Bill and Hillary before all this started. Personally, I think they are demeaning themselves by the way they are conducting this campaign.
And, do you really think Hillary cares about the American people? This is personal for her, she wants to be President not to serve the American people but to feed her own ego.
If she is nominated, which, I will stay home in November.
P , Scottsdale, AZ
Clinton will not give up because she beleives in herself and the people that support her. At this time in America , a president with Mrs. Clinton's skills and ability would be best.
Mrs. Clinton already has strong footholds and those that know her either respect her or are against her becasue they fear for their special interests. The last thing our country needs is a silver tongued speech reader. Too many times in my life I have seen the weak taken in by rainbow, tooty fruity, happy go lucky shine. We can't have a big mouth and no action stance Whitehouse. And we can't afford a 20 year war, backed by a National Gaurd Army. Mrs. Clinton will address and bring action for making all our futures brighter. Hillary doesn't play games with the American people. I ask that all those who have kids overseas, or in the overdrawn war, please step back and make a sound judgement this election. Vote Hillary into the Office, she'll do more for Us All. Her Heart is real
Carl, Clearwater, Florida
I am a Canadian and i just can't believe that it's even a close race between Obama and Clinton!!
Don't Americans ever learn?For a woman that is suppose to do so much as your president and did so little in the past!!
Come On America, give your head a shake.you don't need another Bush or Clinton in the White House!
You made a Fatal Mistake in the last election, so don't repeat it with a Bigger ONE.
If Obama is not successful, that will be the biggest mistake in US History!!
GUY, FT ST JOHN CANADA
GUY MICHAUD, fFT ST JOHN , BC CANADA
What this article really makes clear is that Hillary is willing to continue to tear down the most likely democratic nominee as long as there is the slimmest chance of overturning the will of the majority of the popular vote, the majority of pledged delegates (and don't tell me the caucus I voted in was undemocratic) and the majority of states. Once again, the Dems are shooting themselves in the foot!
Andrew M Wagner, Minneapolis, Minnesota
Obama brings fresh blood into Washington politics which lately is infected with age old cronies doing the same thing. If it is fresh it ought to be new. This is the definition of being fresh. Good not to have the "experience" that Hillary touts all the time. It is the same "experience" of the politicians that has brought this country to the disgraceful laughing stock of the world. It is time to be led by new ideas. Words without action is a bogus statement. Without words there is no action. Words of Obama will be converted into action by the advisory team that Obama is going to put in place. My vote is for Obama.
Jon Jones, Richardson, TX, USA
how ridiculous that Hillary would even suggest Obama take a veep position when he is ahead in every catagory and she can't catch him unless all the supers decide to give it to her against the will of the people. If she gets the nomination all the new voters Obama has attracted would not support her, and be disheartened with the whole process (again) for years to come. I for one will vote for McCain if Hillary steals this with the supers. Obama starts America with a clean slate. Her time is past.
Robert, Centennial, CO
I think Hillary has a good chance. I think Florida & Michigan should be seated, after all the people didn't have anything to do witht he primary date. I can assure you that both states saw enough on TV to know who to vote for. Obama should have had enough sense to know that you can't penalize a whole state of taxpayers for something the Democratic party decided. I think who ever decided to move the party forward should have to pay a penalty though. I think a revote would be cheating! To top it all off Obama is nothing but a person talking out of both sides of his mouth in a smooth way with no real intentions because he's not knowledgeable enough since he missed so many state vots when he was there & voted "Present" in the senate. I sure would hate not to have enough knowledge to vote one way or the other/
Alice , Midville, GA
I don't want the same old..I've had enough of it. Obama is my man. Obama the savior!
L Archambault, Levittown, NY
As a Canadian living many years in wine country of California, I can say that Obama is the man, and if the Dems are silly (stupid??) enough to let him get away, well, it will be another century before someone of his qualities and character turn up again. And I hope they will be ready for another 4 - 8 years of Bush-esque politics and leadership in the person of McCain, because that is more than likely who will win if the Dems don't grab Obama and hold on to him for dear life. It's no more a "woman's turn" than it is an African-american's turn, and Obama is so superior to Hillary (with or without Bill) that it shouldn't even be close. Yes, it would be lovely to have a woman Pres down here, but there are many more out there with far better potential than Hillary, who will be ready to step forward at the end of Obama's 8 years. Without Bill, Hillary is nothing, and Bill has already had his time. To the Clintons, I say stop being so frigging greedy, and let the new generation have it.
Rhoda , Napa, CA
I for Hillary because we all know where she came from..her "roots" came from our country , not where they don't believe in our God..This country was founded on God ,now we can;t have in God we trust.What do you think our forfathers would say ???? Better take a real close look my friends because if Obama win's alot will change alright..Just keep in mind who this country is supose to belong to,us the ones that have lost fathers,brothers,cousins.uncles,sisters,moms,husbands and wives..Remember what that ole flag stands for,Please lets not let some one just take our home land away from us,
Bea ,from AZ {a trasplant from ARkansas}
Bea Stuart, oracle, Az
Hilary = Rocky it's true!
Eye of the Tiger? Eye time she quit?
Jon, London, UK
Hillary has done a superb job while Obama continues to throw the racial card any time he gets criticism.
His victories are fracturing America, making it look like the OJ Simpson trial. His dirty tactic must end. I hope we don't have to live through 8 years of dirty Chicago style Obama politics.
Our country deserves better.
I'm voting for the Hometown girl: Hillary.
Jamie, Phili, Penn
Like Ohio and Texas there is little doubt that Clinton will win in Pennsylvania. The only question is how close can Obama get to her and where will that leave the power brokers and her other backers?
Gerry, Glasgow,
HIllary has debased the Democratic Party even further today with her underhand support for the blatantly racist rantings of Ms. Ferraro. She will dip into the gutter and even stay there permanently if she thinks it can arouse the basest emotions and help her win. It makes me weep.
The only time I've managed to laugh about this whole thing is when I read this:
www.pondculture.wordpress.com
this guy's got it right. in a funny way.
Jose Pavano, San Diego, CA
Hillary should be careful of Obama's camp. They play really dirty. Saying something in public and reversing it in private.
Nafta for example. Iraq - he wont follow his promises. SC/racism - it was a MO hatched by hie state campaign manager, then blamed it on Clinton. Steal "Yes we can" from Huerta - a bully her in NV, drag her in the mud. Says he is a uniter - and yet he condones racists like Farrakhan, belongs to aracist church.
Obama can fool the kids who are star struck. The truth is catching up to him, with the NAFTA and the Iraq revelations. But if Hillary doesnt stay strong, he will be our nominee. That puts the Democratic Party on the losing side agains McCain - especially now that the Rezko trial has started. Revelations like the Iraqi terrorist, Nadhmi Auchi, who funded his campaign - which in turn led to his opposition to the Iraq war, are unfolding.... his unwillingness to answer questions by running away from the mike... omg were screwed if he becomes the nominee.
FJ Stratford, King Of Prussia, PA
The difference between HRC and Rocky Balboa is that Rocky had the moral high ground to stand on. HRC and surrogates have taken their "kitchen sink" politics to new lows. Hill/Bill are the are no different than Bush/Cheney. We're sick to death of these dynasties and their insider politics of division.
Hillary claims solutions over speeches. Show us the money Hillary. Her claims to commander-in-chief foreign policy readiness among other things includes highly exaggerated UFO photo ops to Bosnia and Northern Ireland and a UN address in Bejiing in 1995 on women's rights. She should be applauded for the latter giving credit where it is due. But is was a SPEECH Hillary and not a foreign treaty deliberation.
In the single most important decision of her ELECTED history, Hillary voted to authorize the war in Iraq! Her support of Bushâs Iraq war resolution is her most shining example of political expediency. She has neither political courage nor a moral compass.
Katia K., Minneapolis, MN
How about the Rodham brothers. Do they they not come from Pensylvania? How much did they get form the men who got pardoned by Bill Clinton? And how does that reflect on the character of Hilary?
J. Vanderbilt, London,
I don't suppose there is any chance that you would just cover the substantitive issues of programs and policies and how they differ between the two. Much better to talk about Rocky movies and punching. Yawn. Wake me up when this is over.
Larry, Stratford,
Jean of Gravois Mills:
I think it would be much better to say :
HRC, HEAR HER LIE...AND LIE.... AND LIE
Second only to her husband.
P.S. What's the betting that if she loses, he'll be in the papers within one year for an affair with a Wal-Mart cashier , night-club hostess or similar ?
DA, Lyon, France
I used to like Hillary, and thought she was unfairly vilified. I no longer think so. I can't believe the free ride SHE'S getting. She's actively destroying her own party's chances by saying McCain would be better than Obama, openly courting the racist vote, setting the women's movement back 50 years by using emotional manipulation and playing the victim card, accusing Obama of inexperience when her resume isn't much longer and Obama has actually served longer as an elected official, and trying to tar him with implications of financial wrongdoing when her experience in that regard is MUCH longer. I can't believe she hasn't fired Ferraro for her race-baiting statements after Obama fired Powers for something much milder. And it should be remembered that she only won Texas because many Republicans, their own race already decided, voted for Hillary as a strategic move to keep the Democrats divided. (But I will vote for her in November if she's the nominee. The Republicans are still worse.)
James, New York, NY/USA
After reading the comments in this section it is obvious that many people should have to pass a test before voting.
People say Hillary has the experience......I am from NY and remember when she first became a US Senator. I guess the American people are to consider Hillary's time in the White House as her experience that makes her capable of running the country.
It's interesting that she does not consider her time on the board of Wal-Mart as part of her experience. I wonder why?
Lastly, for Carlos from Fresno. How can Hillary stand up for the common person when she can cut a check for $5 millions and still have money.
Let's face it.......we need a better selection of people running for the Presidency.
Mark, LAS VEGAS, USA
It is a shame that the voting public of the United States of America cannot abandon old ways of considering the race of a person before considering that persons qualifications. Looking at the records of both canidates Obama has been more active in the improvement of American lives than Clinton. Take time and compare the records
Reggie, Vallejo, Ca
The problem with Hiilary Clinton is that she voted for the iraq war. She showed very poor judgement when needed and I don't think she is capable to take the 3AM call as a president. She will be just the extension of Bush foreign policy wiht Ms. Albright in control.
Punter, Naperville, USA/IL
Obama can't win the Presidency... it's a matter of trust.
He tells the American Voters one thing and the Canadian Govt. another... And then said it didn't happen. Then said is was a mistake. YEAH, IT WAS A MISTAKE!
If the Democratic Party selects Barack H. Obama as it's nominee... HELLO JOHN McCAIN!
Obama has no idea what's "really required" and does not fully appreciate the demands that will be made upon his family as President.
Continually, Obama talks about changing Washington ... I think it is more likely that he will not only fail in his promise to his supporters but further disappoint them by his "chummy and cozy" relationship with Washington insiders such as John Kerry and Ted Kennedy.
Make NO MISTAKE! OBama is a Washington INSIDER!
He won't and can't change John Kerry or Ted Kennedy. However, Kerry and Kennedy can definitely change Obama.
Randy, Los Angeles, CA
After 8 years of Bush, it is absurd that the likely Democratic leader would be a relatively inexperienced candidate who wants to seek "unity". The leader should be an experienced candidate who wants to fight for the lower class. Obama is creating a mania that totally diverts people's attention from the realities of inequality and the need for fighting. The Republicans will love Obama. The middle/upper class Democrats who have enough food on their plates will love Obama. But inequality is not something that he seems to want to fight. His campaign is unfortunate so far.
mark mathews, toronto,
Why are you writing about Pennsylvannia when the news tonight is all about Mississippi? Obama takes it handily! His family is not even from there - how 'bout them apples?
His campaign has been all about the comeback. It's not where you start from (Clinton was the presumtive Dem. nominee) but where you have come from.
He leads poplular vote and delegate count and just won the last two contests....Yes we can America - change this world.
mary, New York City, New York
Yeah. He's the one who is all talk. This from a woman who says her vote for the Iraq war wasn't really a vote for the Iraq war because she didn't expect George W. Bush to use the permission she voted to give him. The woman who says, "If I knew then what I know now..." but claims she didn't bother to read the National Intelligence Estimate which would have told her everything then that she knows now except for the fact there didn't turn out to be WMD's. The woman who won't give a straight answer to a straight question to save her campaign.
She should het herself a campaign bus like McCain had in 2000, only her's should be called the "Doubletalk Express."
Scott, Middletown, USA
Hillary should not bow out of this race. If Mr. Obama were the "clear" candidate, then he would have won California, but he didn't . He should have won Conn. and Mass., but even with Kerry's and Kennedy's help, he did not win. If he wre the clear cut candidate, he would have won Ohio and he didn't. So, let Hillary run her own race. It is America. She has a right to run until she wants to stop. And I know of millions of people who are backing her and don't want her to stop. She is our voice. She listens to us. And she will fight for us. If there is any one who is dividing the democratic party, it is the higher-ups in the democratic party who are trying to tell us how to vote. They need to let all of the states vote. If there is not a candidate who reaches the nomintation , then it will have to be settled at the convention. If they want it settled in January, then they should hold one Super Tuesday in January and get it all over with!!
HRC HEAR HER ROAR!!!
Jean, Gravois Mills, Missouri
Go Obama!!
Carolyn, San Ramon, CA
As a white feminist, I would be delighted to vote for a strong woman for President. I think women in general have to prove themselves to a much greater degree than do men to attain such positions. In this election however, I think Obama clearly has higher standards and is a strong leader who can take the country back to the middle where we can all find common ground. If Hilary gets the nomination, I doubt she would beat McCain and if perhaps she did win this election, a conservative Republican would certainly follow her because she is so polarizing.
A question for Hillary supporters..., "Have you really taken time to get to know Obama? It appears that those who have taken the time to get to know him end up choosing him. Hillary supporters I have seen tend to be older, and have spent little time to consider other options - as if they made up their mind in the 90s."
Jerry Pratt, Portland, Oregon, USA
Obamaâs delegate leads mask his weaknesses in the blue-collar industrial states that any Democratic must win to have an electoral plurality in November. His lead over Clinton was mainly based on caucus wins in traditionally strong Republican states with few electoral votes. Only the most ardent Obama partisans could dream of Obama wins in the mountain states in November. Their candidate wonât ever carry both Ohio and Florida, a required combination for any Democratic capture of the White House. In CA where Obama lost 2 out of 3 Hispanic votes, 3 out of 4 Asian votes, this state will become very competitive in the fall. New Jersey, Michigan, and Pennsylvania are not Obamaâs country. The electoral math and the winner take all rules favor McCain. Obama will be the McGovern of 2008.
James Richard, Harrisburg, PA
When all is said and done, Hill and Bill will look at this strategy of cherrypicking states as the one that lost them the nomination.
ben, george town, cayman islands
I'm a Pennsylvanian in my 30s and would love to see a woman president. But I'm tired of aging Baby Boomers running the show. And I've seen enough of the Clintons in the White House to know I'd rather not have that again. Go Obama!
steve, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Hillary will be a great Presidend, and the country needs that. We need action, talk alone doesn't put bread on the table!
Anne , LA, USA
Hillary and Bill are a great team!!! Bring them back!!! We love them!!! America... Have some sense!!!!
Joe, York,
It's a shame to see and hear what's happening to the Democratic Party with these primaries. Lately, they have not been based on issues, but on race. I am an African American woman who had a tough time deciding who to vote for, in the end I choose Hillary. But, after seeing her campaign, i.e. Gerladine Ferraro, go from the issues to race and fear, I wish I could have my vote back. If she wins the nomination I will be more opt vote for John McCain, and be through supporting the Democratic Party. She, as well as, Bill Clinton have definitely disappointed and saddened me.
Tammy Lockhart, West Chester, Ohio
Hillary's attempt to grab the presdientail nomination is only damaging for the democrats. Almost the entire midwest of the country has voted for Obama. He is the voice of change and Hillary is the voice of negativism.
Obama has cosponsored more than 800 bills during his time in the Senate and has sponsored over 200. He worked overtime to provide health care insurance to children in Illinois. He is a man who works for the people. Not just people of African descent but all people who struggling to deal with this sagging economy.
How many of Americans have been hit with home freclosures. Obama worked on the frontlines with individuals who had lost their homes and fought with them so that they could keep thier small piece of the American dream.
Hillary is not running for President. She is dividing this Democratic Party and making it impossible for Independents (like myself) Democrats and even some Republicans to unites behind the man who is calling for change.
Shai, Bekley Heights, NJ
She's not an average Joe, she's rich woman who is pampered and pampers her friends.... don't mistake who she says she is for who she actually is.
J, Dallas, Texas
Love her. She's a fighter and that what we need representing us in Washington. Someone to stand up for the Average Joe.
Keep it up Hillary.
Yes we will!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
carlos , fresno, ca
Silly Obama it's a womans turn. If you won't accept veep then you will get nothing, why do you not want turn understand this. There will be no more voting, polling or story telling. Jump at the veep while you have the chance.
Rayeann, Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio
Being a Canadian and have not any particpation in the US electoral vote I really think the US is not ready for a the inexperience of Obama,however on the other side of the coin we assume that Mr. Bill will guide Hillary through the tough times that will onset her as the first woman president.
It is unfortunate that the NAFTA has left so many Canadians out of work as well as US workers where the money is heading to Mexico and China,it sounded to good to be true at the onset however things have changed for the worst and we can only hope that the New York senator can make this a come back issue.
Gary Speakman, Brantford, ON Canada
It's time to let go of the old Washington and Hillary is part of that. I am voting for Obama!
Holly, Orlando,
Do the good people of Pennsylvania remember how ashamed the nation was of the Clinton administration? During his administration, democrats lost control of Congress and lost governorships. Remember their personal problems were such that we had no commander in chief for the last two years of the Clinton administration?
Vote wisely, Pennsylvania.
Marie, tampa, fl
Sad to say it but Hillary will try anything and everything to try to get in the White House. Wherever she goes, she will say something of that place to make believe she knows the place as if she lived there all her life. Unfortunately, once she loses in those very same states, she will not even thank them. She did it in Vermont, Wisconsin, Maryland, Virginiaâ¦â¦.
I dare Pennsylvania to vote Obama and take me on in this bet. I know that if she would lose, she would NOT thank Pennsylvania.
Angelo, NY,
So Clinton kept on making misleading statements... but at least they were sort of new... so that means she is going to make another comeback? This would be the 4th comeback? Or the 5th? Who knows, who cares... its over. If Hillary could do math, she'd know that.
Obama '08! America's back!
Blake, Denver, Colorado
Hillary should go away.
jm, Cleveland,
Hillary '08
Obama '16
Rayeann, Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio