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Karl Rove, who masterminded the last two Republican victories in presidential elections, is gazing with undisguised relish at the giant target being painted on Barack Obama's back before the next one.
In an interview with The Times yesterday, he described the likely Democratic nominee as a “frail” candidate, who represents the values of an out-of-touch liberal social elite and demonstrates “tone deafness” to the concerns of ordinary Americans.
“You have probably seen this kind of guy at London parties, trailing ash from a fashionable cigarette into the carpet and making snide remarks about someone ‘being an abominable bore’,” Mr Rove said.
He suggested that voters have not heard the last of Mr Obama’s recent comments at a San Francisco fund-raiser, where he suggested small town Pennsylvanians were clinging to guns and religion because they were “bitter”.
The candidate sounded, Mr Rove said, as if he was following in the footsteps of his anthropologist mother “reporting on the exotic species of voter he had encountered in some dark corner on the opposite side of the globe”.
All this is a far cry from just a few short weeks ago when Mr Obama’s soaring oratory — his promise to heal racial divisions or transcend the partisan politics of an older generation — had Republican strategists regarding him with shock and awe.
It is now the Democrats’ turn to worry. Mr Obama’s decisive defeat in this week’s Pennsylvania primary has been followed by whispers of alarm that they may end up with a candidate who is listing badly — even holed below the water line — just as he is about to cross the finishing line in his race with Mrs Clinton. His failure to win white working-class voters in states like Ohio and Pennsylvania — both certain to be important battlegrounds in November’s general election — has raised doubts about his fitness for the fight against John McCain. He sometimes appears drained by his fight with Mrs Clinton, a woman 14 years older than him, taking time off the campaign trail this week and setting himself a light schedule for the coming days.
Whereas he once energised rallies with the chant, “Fired up! Ready to go!” he now complains about feeling tired and the length of primary season, or says he wants to go home to see his young family.
If Mr Obama loses again in Indiana on May 6, then panic will spread through the party. His campaign spent much of yesterday explaining to the Democratic super-delegates — who could yet wrest the nomination away from him, why he remains the best candidate to beat the Republicans. Mr Obama himself was busy shoring up his battered Everyman credentials by holding a press conference at an Indianapolis petrol station.
But Mr Rove said that “unless something extraordinary happens”, Mr Obama’s lead among elected delegates still means that he will be the Democratic nominee.
And, although it may be unwelcome right now, Mr Rove even had some advice for him. First, he cease making attacks on Mrs Clinton and Mr McCain, which are “corrosive of his fundamental message about representing a new kind of politics”.
Mr Rove also pointed out that Mr Obama cannot stand on a platform promising post-partisan politics when he has virtually nothing to show on this front from sitting in the Senate for three years.
“He should spend less time on the campaign trail between now and September and more time in the Senate” trying to get such an achievement under his belt, Mr Rove said. “The best way to prove a message is to live it.”
Mr Obama has also been embarrassed in recent weeks by his black liberationist pastor Jeremiah Wright, who returned to the airwaves yesterday to denounce the media for portraying him as “some sort of fanatic”.
Unhelpfully, he explained that one of the differences between him and Mr Obama is that he “goes out as a politician and says what he has to say as a politician”.
It is a treacherous, racially-charged subject, and Mr McCain has been careful this week to disassociate himself from Republicans who have launched a TV advert attacking Mr Obama’s links with the pastor.
But Mr Rove suggested that race, far from hurting Mr Obama probably works in his favour by attracting white voters who regard the prospect of a black president as a “hopeful thing”.
A bigger problem for Mr Obama, he said, is winning industrial states like Ohio, Michigan and Pennsylvania with a voter base that resembles “George McGovern's coalition of college students and white wine sippers”.
Mr Rove cited polls showing that as many as 26 per cent of Mrs Clinton’s supporters will vote Republican if Mr Obama is the nominee, saying even though such numbers were likely to come down before November, “there are going to be significant numbers of defections in this contest”.
His scorn for Mr Obama was almost palpable as he described how the candidate had developed a habit of “parsing” when faced by criticism or complaining about rough treatment as he did after last week’s TV debate against Mrs Clinton.
This makes him look like a whiner, Mr Rove said. “She has been getting tough with him — but it's not as tough as it will get from all sorts of places in a general election.”
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Obama elitist? Whatever. What about McCain? How many homes do you have to own before you are considered an elitist in this country? It is an insult, when many are losing their homes due to the failed policies of Bush.
Mary Sue, Edina, MN, USA
I think the world is watching America. The land of the "land of the free and home of the brave." A country where most of the people have no morals or integrity. A country of people who think they know what is best for other countries, but can't treat other Americans with respect and dignity. Shame.
Janice, Tyler, United States
American politics is a disgrace. The media is divisive and brainless, spinning left and right Ten percent believe Obama to be a muslim who went to a madrassa. Most Americans are distracted and uninformed. Based purely on message Obama can't lose, but the whole process is just muddied. Ugh.
tom job, liverpool, UK
What the world needs now are statesmen not bombs. Especially, given the power of America and the emergence of new powers in Asia.
Anyone who can give the first answer as strategy with restrain should be the one to kick the to the goal post. Anyone else will confirm the doomsday of Nostradamus.
Mahin Sen, London, UK
What makes you think by you becoming President we are going to get? NATFA, that put millions of workers out of work as well as busted the union and Bill and HRC; CAFTA, that will put whats left out of work! Columbia, did not give Mark Penn $300,000 and Bill $800,000 just because they like them? This is the first time we have a chance to have a say, we can take it or keep looking back at the past for answer, which has not and will not come in our life time or a our kids! We as a nation need to brake with the past so that our kid can have a future!!! Just my option, and like every one else
Kevin, Chicago, IL
By everything said here, Rove vould prefer Clinton as dem candidate ... Current GOP attacks on Obama complete the emerging pattern....
Barry, Hopkins, MN
Here we have prima facie evidence that Republicans fear Obama more than they do Clinton.
I think there is no other way to interpret Rove's putting his pudgy face into things.
JOHN CHUCKMAN, toronto, Canada
Obama is for real, and you're all running scared. U can say whatever you want but he's getting closer to the White House, believe it or not. When it all started last year, who thought we'll be having this conversation right now. Get real, change is coming, not only to America. Like it or not.
Joh, Dublin, Ireland
I wouldn't take the McGovern comparison too far; McGovern ran on what would probably be considered extremely radical ideas now, like a 37% across-the-board cut on defense spending. Moreover, McGovern was never as charismatic as Obama has been.
Brett, Salt Lake City, USA
A conservative Republican I'm voting for Obama, and let's hope it will not be necessary holding my noset o pull the lever for Clinton.
No way on earth will I vote for McCain to end up endless war, and the utter destruction of our economy.
MARK KLEIN, M.D., Oakland, CALIFORNIA
So of us would say that Rove (and his boy Bush) are out of touch conservative social elite. You have probably seen people like him hanging out with the likes of Dobson (of Focus on the Family) and Robertson (700 Club).
Merrill Davison, Phoenix, USA
BHO is simply George McGovern Lite with even less foreign policy experience. A disasterous candidate for the Democrats and would be an even worse president. Hillary is doing a great job of showing him as the whiny, effete liberal he is. Curious though, he is half white so why is race an issue?
Joanne, Charleston, USA
Don't you really mean that Obama has trouble winning over the bigots, both in his party and in the Republican party? Rove and company are blaming him for being unable to do the impossible. Wright is not the problem; entrenched white racism is the problem, dressed up as 'white conservatism'.
Norman Barbee, Chapel Hill, NC, USA
"Obama is reuniting the McGovern Coalition: Blacks, Lefty students and their professors, and readers of the New Yorker magazine. "
A winning combination. Just ask McGovern.
Dave, Boulder City, USA
If that is a mastermind then I would hate to see the alternative. Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't there queries over the votes for Bush ?
Ian Payne, WALSALL,
the days of Rove and elk are over and they are in panic mode..trying to dreg up anything on Obama,pathetic how americans really are!
barry, halifax, n.s.
Carl Rove did indeed tell about McCains daughter -adopted from Bangladesh orphage and treated for her medical condition. Now she is a part of the McCain family. I learned this from Bangladeshi taxi driver in NYC. What a fine man to save the childs life.
Nona, New York City, USA
Ironic. It was Rove who masterminded the despicable 'he has a black daughter out of wedlock' attack on McCain in the 2000 South Carolina Repub primary so that Bush could win there. McCain's daughter is actually adopted from Bangladesh. Rove's words cannot be trusted by anyone, Republican or Democrat
Leslie, London, UK
There is no difference between McCain or Clinton. The conservatives, white catholics, blue collared workers will not vote for Obama because he is black. Penn primary has proven that american people want more of the same, " no change", sad day for american politics.
Rahul , Rhode Island, USA
Anna - the US has never and will never elect a liberal elitist. In fact, the only two democrats that have managed to get elected in the last 40 years were, using your term, "buddies" with disasterous politics.
McCain will easily win, regardless of which democrat is nominated.
Walter, French Settlement, USA
"Bush's brain..."
What happened to his own brain?
jayil, london, uk
Great attempt to help the individual who can certainly not defeat John McCain. Everyone knows Hillary is alienate the democratic base and John Boy will walk into the white house. Karl is no fool. I like his strategy.
Abigail, Richardson, US
Maybe after eight years of a conservative "buddy" and his disastrous politics, America is ready for a liberal elitist...
Anna, Geneva, Switzerland
Well, first of all, Karl Rove is a man for hire so his words aren't from a typical republican's. Whenever you earn money, someone else, in a distant corner of the world, is losing it - so please don't blame Hillary for earning money because she can. He will be nominated, but not elected - Simple.
Josh Pershing , Sacramento, USA
Karl Rove as a political pundit? Karl Rove as a fair and balanced critic? Karl Rove who painted George W. Bust as a virtuous businessman ready to restore ethics to the American public? Karl Rove evaluating a man's character?
No.
Diane, Los Angeles, USA
Thank you, Mr. Rove. Couldn't have said it better myself.
Grace Moya, New York, United States
Yes, Rove does know how to win elections. So why would he advise a candidate to stop pointing out differences between himself and his opponents and not campaign while his opponents trashed him for months? Maybe Karl's party has a deep need for Clinton to be the nominee. Hmmm??? Ya think maybe??
karela, Hastings,, MI, USA
Yep, the Republicans want Clinton to win the nomination because they know they can beat her. Why would Rove bother to give his opinion at this point otherwise. Are Democrats smart enough to see the motivation here???
Only time will tell....
Sarah, San Diego,
Much is made of Obama's alleged disdain for "Joe Sixpack," especially by those who gain the most from such blatantly false charges:
--Hillary Clinton, who puts her personal welfare above anyone else's -- and has earned millions doing so.
--Karl Rove, who knows Obama will demolish McCain in November.
Dennis Berry, Astoria, OR, United States
This is the first time in my life I've completely agreed with Carl Rove. I'm American and a Democrat so please don't hit me with 'What does it matter what people in England think?' and that I am a 'Republican' so what does it matter? BO stands for a liberal ideolgical framework that will not win.
Megan Karnes, London, England
Obama will have 5 months - ample time - to regain his stride and put McCain on the defensive. He must keep the focus on Iraq and the Economy and hang George Bush's record on McCain (McSame?)
Also, learn from his primary experience (flag pins, bittergate) not to let the opposition set the agenda.
Truesdell, Glencoe, USA
Hard to imagine anyone actually caring what Rove has to say, other than as a means to determine the opposite direction to follow. Obama will do fine, needs not to debate Hillary again, she is not going to be in the Whitehouse as anything more than a visitor.
Daniel, Kenton, united states
it doen't matter what Obama does, the media and people "you know who you are" will spin it, the man is the best this country has to offer and our best chance to wok together to rebuild our country, But we are willing to go back to our historical corners - same shame. you poor fools...
karen, Pasadena, usa
Dobbs, old sport, your pal BHO is one of those millionaires.
Ooops!
Robert de Jong, Vineland, New jersey, USA
Mr. Rove didn't mastermind any Republican victories in two previous presidential elections - he may think he did. In the case of President Bush - he lost the popular vote and won the electoral vote, only with the help of the supreme court ruling. Nobody at the time was predicting that. Obama may win
Robert Tilford, McCracken, , Kansas, USA
Rove is Right On, whether you like Bush or not-- he knows how to win the White House. When he was there, Bush was doing better than he is now. No matter who wins this round, folks will wish Bush was back in the White House later on, although a return to Reagan would be the best of all.
AJ, Laguna Beach, CA, USA
Russ - I agree in principle with regard to ad hominen but this is Rove's contribution to our political discourse: baseless, fraudulent attacks on otherwise decent people. He has honed it as no other before him. Were there any substance to him, that might invite more effort. Also word limit here..
Gerald, Brooklyn, USA
Rove has the credibility and social graces of Elliot Spitzer.
Charlie, East Amherst, USA
Karl Rove once caimed that the US needs Mexicans so that his son doesn't have to pick tomatoes.As an American who has picked tomatoes,and has a teenaged son who picks tomatoes on a farm,I deeply resent Mr Rove's complaining of Sen Obama's" tone deafness"to the concerns of ordinary Americans.
David S, Conestoga Pa, USA
Sorry, Karl, your mojo ran out in 2006 when the Dems took control of Congress and also added more Dem governors. The only voters who still buy your junk will be voting for McCain in any event, leaving your influence pretty much zilch.
Lucy, Alamo, USA
Obama need know Hillary is finished and running for 2012. Ignore her and pay more attantions to let the vote know the fact that you have a lot more detailed plans for all the isues that matter for them. Don't even attack Mccain for now because Idiana hold open primary.
miaochen, Costa Mesa, us
Right about now, I'd WANT Karl Rove firmly against me in any endeavor I might undertake. The guy has been so wrong about so many things, has brought such misery into the world...does anyone honestly care what he thinks about anything, except to run madly in the opposite direction?
JimBob, Los Angeles, CA, USA
Obama has campaigned on the ideas of accountability and transparency in government. Ending the greed of no-bid contracts. Retracting tax breaks for the wealthy. Energy independence. An immediate end to the war. Basically reversing the carefully crafted scam that Rove had been running since 9/11.
Randal, Los Angeles, USA
Neocons for McClinton
Obama is being attacked by both the Republicans and the Clinton campaign (is there now really any difference? )
This race is really between Obama and McClinton
...and the neocons want McClinton
(McClinton voted for the Iraq war, & is in the bag for war with Iran).
kevin, Chicago, u.s.a.
Obama is toast because of his own doing. Bill Ayers still is a terrorist
Amad Shaff, Beverly Hills, USA
Rove is right. Obama is reuniting the McGovern Coalition: Blacks, Lefty students and their professors, and readers of the New Yorker magazine.
Bob Williams, Utopia Texas, USA
who wants to listen to Karl Rove. The news media talks about poll. Did these so call polls contact the citizens of the USA no. how can their come up with all these so call numbers. We are not looking at the poll, only the votes. Karl Rove and all can advise Obama, he needs to testifies .
elizabeth, Maryland,
The most surprising thing about this election (and there have been many surprises), is the media's fawning over whatever Karl Rove has to say. This is especially true of the British media.
The notion that Rove is somehow a wizened observer to the election and not an interested party is ludicrous.
James, London,
I was an Obama supporter. It wasn't Mr Rove's words that turned me away; rather Mr Obama's. He has proven himself unready to me. Again, I am left to deciding which of the pieces of dung smells the least offensive to me. Mrs Clinton is too divisive. That leaves only Mr McCain. May the gods help us.
Doug Hockenberry, Meadville, PA, USA
Carl Rove is an exemplifcation of all that is wrong with American society: white entitlement and racism. K. Rove, wish that he was Obama! The black man can't win: if blacks are achievers or not they are subjected to marginalization. Most people didn't give Obama a chance: he was an also-run!
Fifi Paintsil, Shippensburg, USA
Gerald -- Ad hominen attacks upon the messenger do nothing to refute the message.
Russ Armstrong, Becker, Minnesota,
The polls must have Republicans significantly concerned about the likely outcome of a November election between the two nice guys, the then 72 year old Senator John McCain and Senator Barack Obama who will be age 47. Why else would conservative Republicans be changing their voter registrations from Republican to Democrat and casting phantom votes for their arch enemy Hillary Clinton in Pennsylvania and other Democratic primaries?
William, Los Angeles, USA
Karl Rove, the "mastermind" of negative politics provides advice for Democratic hopefuls. Karl Rove, who engineered the election of George W. Bush, owner of a public-approval rating measured in millimeters. Sure, let's call the African-American candidate the elitest among this pack of millionaires!
Fred Dobbs, Monterey,
Mr. Rove represents all that is despicable in American politics. He and his party are responsible for promoting G. W. Bush -- a man patently incapable of governing anything effectively - to the nation's highest office. We have suffered his opinions, and his tactics, quite enough.
Gerald, Brooklyn, USA