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From The Sunday Times
April 27, 2008
Hillary Clinton risks rift in Democrats by ‘cheating’ black voters
Hillary Clinton is pinning her hopes on the party’s superdelegates to gift her the nomination. But America’s most senior black congressman warns she is playing with fire and could force a split in the Democrats
The most senior black congressman in America had a tough warning for Hillary Clinton this weekend as she fought to wrest the Democratic presidential nomination from Barack Obama.
“We’ll be playing with fire if we interfere with the voters’ choice,” James Clyburn, the party’s chief whip in the House of Representatives, told The Sunday Times. “African-Americans will feel cheated.”
Clinton is hoping to win by persuading superdelegates – the party officials with a free vote and the power to tip the nomination at the Democratic convention in August – to back her, even if Obama is in the lead once all the primaries and caucuses have been held.
But Clyburn, who has yet to endorse either candidate, believes this path would be suicidal for the Democrats. African-Americans were not the only ones who would feel betrayed, he said. “Barack Obama has brought in a lot of young voters for the first time, and they’ll feel cheated too.” Many Clinton supporters are equally adamant that their candidate must win because white Americans are not going to elect a black president. Either way, Democrats are on a collision course.
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“When it comes down to it, they are not going to vote for a black man,” said Jim Whitworth, 43, who wore a Harley-Davidson motorcycle T-shirt and a chestful of Hillary for President buttons to a Clinton rally in Fayetteville, North Carolina. He said the more he learnt about Obama, the more he found him “scary”.
“I don’t feel like I’m a racist, but this country is. People say they will vote for a black person, but when they get to the polls they won’t.”
The Democratic party is splitting over the most ugly, divisive issue in America. The contest began as an exciting, inspirational battle between two widely respected candidates with the potential to make history as the first woman or first black president. Yet it could end in bitterness and defeat at the hands of the Republicans if the breach is not healed.
In Florida, 27% of voters said America was not ready for a black president, according to exit polls. In Ohio and Pennsylvania, race was an important factor to 20% and 19% respectively. These three swing states are critical to the Democrats’ prospects of winning the White House this November – and Clinton has beaten Obama decisively in all of them.
When Obama won in Iowa, a predominantly white state, in early January, it was a moment of promise. Some people were moved to tears as crowds chanted: “Race doesn’t matter.”
Clyburn has a different opinion. “Race always matters,” he said. “That slogan was more about young college graduates telling people, ‘Race doesn’t matter to us’.”
Obama was defeated by a nine-point margin in last week’s Pennsylvania primary after losing the support of white voters by 63% to 37%. He won 90% of black voters.
His defeat followed a series of unforced errors, such as calling working-class and rural Americans “bitter”. Incendiary speeches by Reverend Jeremiah Wright, his pastor – now famous for saying “God damn America” – were played repeatedly on television.
Wright reemerged on the airwaves this weekend to the consternation of Obama’s camp, which fears a further round of hostile publicity. Wright claimed he had been painted as a fanatic or “wackadoodle”.
North Carolina, which holds its primary along with Indiana on May 6, is the most populous state that has yet to vote. Clinton, 60, is campaigning hard there, but her rallies – following a well-established pattern – are almost exclusively white.
She is unlikely to win the state, given its large black population, but is hoping to prevent Obama from running up a big score in the popular vote and regaining the ground lost in Pennsylvania.
Ashley Rozier, a 50-year-old African-American community health worker, said he had been “ridiculed and persecuted” by black people for supporting her. “It’s unbelievable how we accuse other people of being prejudiced while we’re doing the same,” he said.
Shelby Steele, a black conservative intellectual and author of A Bound Man: Why We Are Excited About Obama and Why He Can’t Win, believes the Illinois senator, 46, is becoming unmasked by the rigours of the long election campaign.
“His whole glamour was based on the idea that we did not know him,” Steele observed. “I’ve always regarded Obama as a ‘bargainer’ – someone who made whites very comfortable – and that is what accounted for his initial success. But after Reverend Wright, he’s losing his ability to bargain and looking more like a black guy – a ‘challenger’.”
Clyburn blames Bill Clinton for stirring up the issue of race in South Carolina back in January, when the former president put Obama firmly in the box of ethnic minority candidate by comparing his success to that of the failed presidential contender Reverend Jesse Jackson in the 1980s.
Clyburn is still seething. “The last time I talked to Bill Clinton I told him, if he doesn’t watch it, we could make this nomination worthless.”
He had the same message today for Hillary. “Absolutely. She needs to chill out,” he said. “I’ve heard from three different sources this week that part of what the Clintons are doing is making it impossible for Obama to win this November. That may be true . . .
“The speculation is that the Clintons are trying to stop Obama succeeding in order to keep control of the party. If he gets elected, the Clinton era is over. If he wins the nomination and loses, they’ll still be standing and can come back in four years’ time.”
Steele discounts the suggestion that a black man could never win, “I firmly believe that Colin Powell [the former secretary of state] would have been president over Bill Clinton in the 1990s if he had been willing to run, but white working-class voters need something more concrete that the high-bargaining rhetoric that Obama is offering.”
Obama largely retains the coalition of young voters, black people and independents that he assembled early on in his campaign, but without the votes of blue-collar “Reagan Democrats”, his candidacy could be doomed.
The polls show that Obama is able to perform well in largely white states with little history of racial conflict, but is vulnerable in those with large urban centres, a mixed population and a reputation for tension.
The danger is that the Republican candidate, John McCain, with his independent streak and military background, could capture a significant portion of the white, working-class vote and slam the door on a Democratic victory for another generation.
In Florida, McCain outperforms Obama by 50% to 38%. Clinton, however, would beat McCain by 45% to 44%. In Ohio, McCain also beats Obama but loses to Clinton In other states, including Pennsylvania where Obama and McCain are currently level, there is fear of the “Bradley effect”, named after Tom Bradley, an African-American candidate for governor of California in 1982, who scored highly in the polls but lost the election. In several contests, Obama has performed worse than the exit polls have suggested.
Nevertheless, Obama retains a virtual lock on the nomination. With just nine contests to go, the electoral arithmetic remains problematic for Clinton. Under the Democrats’ system of proportional representation, she has little or no chance of erasing his lead of 156 pledged delegates. According to Clyburn, the battle is over unless Obama makes “a big misstep or suffers a blow-out loss in a big state like North Carolina”.
But neither candidate can reach the magic number of 2,024 delegates needed for victory at the national convention without the backing of a majority of the roughly 800 superdelegates.
Clyburn believes the superdelegates should have at most “two or three days to make their position known” once the last primaries are held in early June. After that, he said, the party must reunite if it is to beat the Republicans. “The most important part of this is the person who is in second place,” he cautioned.
Steele believes Obama is likely to “limp across the finish line” first, but his candidacy is wounded, perhaps fatally. “He is now going to have to run as a normal politician without that veneer of charisma. He’s been pretty hurt and he won’t be able to run a campaign based on his original high-flown rhetoric. McCain is an old down-to-earth white guy with a very concrete message.”
The vexing question is whether the superdelegates are willing to countenance a civil war in the party by throwing the nomination to Clinton even if she lags behind Obama in delegates. Some equate this to telling black people to get to the back of the bus, as they did during the years of segregation.
Kevin Marsh, 57, an Obama supporter in Fayetteville, said: “If Hillary wins, there are countless numbers of people of colour who are going to say she stole the election – and they’ll say, ‘I’m not going to vote at all’. It could get really, really bad.”
One leading Clinton supporter said: “In the end, whatever their private thoughts, the superdelegates will not want to risk that reaction.” He believes Clinton will ultimately be gracious in defeat. “If she is seen as sulking in her tent and he loses by one point, that’s a catastrophe for her. She will never be forgiven.”
It has as much to do about ones race as it does about ones gender. To make the claim that Whites won't vote for a Black is simply a Racist Statement, and just as Stupid as Saying thet Blacks will not Vote For White especially a Woman. Maybe it is just Voters choosing the candidate they feel is best!
Allen, Avon, NY, USA
To all who know American politic's at its finest- know that the Republicans are assisting Clinton - to split the democratic party, if she does not win. The truth is she is a the same Canidate as McCain as Bush as all the bad ones. They smile and say the world is okay- when its falling apart. Vote!
Freddy, Houston, USA
Whatever happens America's electorate should sort itself out and make sure the world does not have to suffer another 4 years of Bush-esque policy and warmongering.
Dom, Leeds, England
If Pennsylvania white voters chose Clinton by 63% to 37%, yet black voters chose Obama by 90% to 10%, does that say more about whites being partially (& perhaps fairly) split, maybe regardless of race, yet black voters choosing Obama because of it?
Would it be fair4Obama 2win because of his race??
PK, UK,
No, Barack can and will win. Every American with common sense and care for the greater good is doing what they can for him -- financially, intellectually, and by promoting greater understanding. I think American's are ready to rise above petty divisive racism.
cindy, london, uk
Bilderberg Group said that Hilary will be next President and Obama will be Vice President in the next election (stated in June 2007), it certainly looking that way!
McCain is a war monger like Bush
I dont wish for American to continue the Bush/Clinton dynasty, American is not land of the free!
Andrew T, North East, England, UK,
Face it. If Obama doesn't win the Presidency black voters are going to feel cheated anyway. Well at least the mainstream media will make it look that way. Reason being...The Reverends Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. The two that really keep blacks from getting ahead here.
Murph, Madisonville, USA/KY
Hilary Clinton hoped to slide into the white house on the pro democratic wave that had previously existed. However, Obama entered the race, she engaged in meaningless fights that have nothing to do with issues, and instead, ruined the entire democratic party. Neither can win the other's supporters.
Lee, Seattle, USA
Both feet.
Richard, Bucharest,
the problem is that both candidates are divisive in their own way and their supporters are ready to abstain or vote republican if they don't get their own way. this should have been easy for the democrats, but they have shot themselves in the foot with the choice. predictably so, as well.
jem, london, uk
I wonder if Miss D. of Phoenix was one of those shrill harpies screaming 'sexism' because of the criticism Hilary was getting in the press. Ms D is voting for Hilary because she is a WOMAN (her emphasis) so no sexism there then!
Phil Lewis, Colwyn Bay, Wales
Votes of senior citizens, Hispanics, women, middle & lower middle classes, Gays & Lesbians carry as much significance as those of the African American community and the youth.
Hillary Clinton is not a racist just because Obama's supporters feel she is audacious to run against their candidate.
Joe, Methuen, USA
Americans please wake up. After all the dirty things that Bill has done in the White House you are still giving him the White House stunt again. You should see that Hillary is not a good person from the way she talk and argue. Only good character man should become president of America.
Vote Obama.
Nora, Singapore, Singapore
Black Americans don't typically vote in elections so it wouldn't really hurt the party all that much, however Hillary can easily make up for the loss with Latino voters, especially if she takes Bill Richardson as a runningmate. Latinos have supported her greatly in key states like TX,FLA and CA
Mike, Los Angeles,
Howard Dean, Chairman of DNC, said on "Meet The Press" today that superdelagates will decide on their vote in accordance with the rules, which is "Which of the two candidates is most electable." . Therefore, the opinion of the black James Clyburn quoted in the above article is completely racist!!
James, Long Beach, CA, USA
I found it rather eye opening that AMERICA criticized CHINA for its social problems yet we are still fighting "that glass ceiling" built by white america. Hell, we have given white men the opportunity to ruin this country or make it great yet we will not give a BLACK man the same opportunity.
df, kingstree, USA
The rules were in place for Forida and Michigan just like every other state in the start, I don't remember anyone complaining then. All of a sudden Hillary is losing and all and all bets are off. By the way, I am a white republican male in my 60's and I'm voting for Obama, true christian soldier!
John, greensboro,
I am a white female in the northern part of Wisconsin and I would never vote for HRC. She has proven again and again that she will speak out for whatever "cause" proves convenient to her. She also lied to the American public about her Bosnian experiences. What else will she lie about?
Rebecca, Antigo, United States
After reading the above comments, I am thinking some kind of standard other than just "having a pulse beat" should be imposed on would-be voters. Most, if not all, evidenced NO shred of understanding of any issue facing our country. Most were mired in racial or sex bias...god help them and us!!
Bob E. Hannah, Gainesville, USA
I feel that this article wants the people to give the election to Obama just because he is black. This is not a "racial" election; it is an election based on who can do the job with the best outcome for the people of this country. People need to understand their words are just that words.
ashley, swainsboro, usa
I am not American, I am Nigerian, living in Nigeria, but the rest of the world look at this election as a true test of virtue in America. More like a moral justification for America to promote Democracy in other countries of the world.
America risk her influence and respect among nations, BE WiSE!
Uche Udeh, Abuja, Nigeria
I just think it's such a shame that the news media made race into such a huge story. In 2004, Kerry got 89% of the Black vote in the General. In 2000, Gore got 90% of the Black vote in the General. Granted this is a primary, but the numbers just don't support any racist voting.
Fred, Richmond, USA
When I first saw Obama I didn't even pay any attention that he was black because I am blind to color. Now I can see it because everyone has made this a race issue. I don't have any idea who I will be voting for. I have seen Obama speak and he has no substance, he beats around the bush too much.
Sam, Kentucky, USA
It makes me physically ill to think that some people would rather vote for McCain and have four more years of catastrophic Republican policies, or even not vote at all, than support a Democratic nominee that is not his or her first choice -- I don't want my great-grandkids in Iraq!
Leslie Lambert, Tucker, GA, US
I am a white female Catholic over 50 who is looking forward to voting for Obama. If he is not the democratic nominee, I will get out & vote for McCain, The Clinton's campaign tactics are shameful . It makes me sad to imagine what the new young voters think of all their theatrics.
Sandra, Tennessee,
If Obama is nominated I will vote for McCain. It has nothing to do with race and every to do with his stance on Health care, Israel, his elitist attitude and the fact that he took his daughters to listen to Wright.'s racist sermons. Very poor judgment.
phyllis ginsburg, Albuquerque, USA
It is obvious that Obama is as divisive as is Hilllary. Whoever gets the nomination will tturn away a karge segment of other voters. Perhaps Obama will turn off a large number of voters. The super delegates have a tough choice.
phyllis ginsburg, Albuquerque, USA
The entire world is watching this primaries closely. The United States has got to really show that they are indeed the heaven of democracy else they should shut up and stop preaching democracy to the rest of the world.
The people's votes shld count, not super delegates.Funny but clearly racisim
Henry Chinasa, Lagos, Nigeria
When Rev. Pat Robertson said the 911 attacks were God's wrath against America for gays, feminists and the ACLU, no one batted an eye! Isn't that like saying God DAMNED America?! Preachers should be treated like your drunk Uncle who always says crazy things but no one in your family listens.
John, Scranton, USA
The Clintons have been very negligent and insensitive during this campaign. I was supporting her until the mud slinging started, the I decided I go for Obama. If he doesn't get the nomination I will go across the isle and give my vote to McCain. At least he is a bonafide Republican.
Juan Luciano, Margate, USA
All you "dems" who won't vote 4 Hill if shes the nom have let yourselves get caught up in ridiculous politics&mudslinging.They're practically the same on every policy! Your anger has taken your brain for hostage.You'd rather McCain whose intn'l policy is more aggressive than Bush-more war in iraq.
Jennifer, Redwood City, United States
Jesse Jackson was a black candidate. Obama has much wider appeal. People that support obama support the man. It seems many support clinton because she is not obama. clinton policy seems closer to mccain than obama.
If the dems win and we have more war, the dems are absolutely done.
T Williams, orlando, u.s.
Why is it that when black people say they will vote only for Obama, that is called their position. But if a white person says they believe in Hillary Clinton, that is called racist? The media, or blacks, leave out some of the words about Jackson, etc., just like they leave out some of MLK's words.
Jan Cummins, Fort Worth,
why isn't the question framed thus: " why is Clinton not able to win the black vote?" Everybody keeps asking Obama why he cannot win the white vote when in fact, none of these democratic candidates, including Kerry and Gore, won this vote. Blacks are the wild card and the Clintons may not forget!
nana, austin,
I love how people who say michigan should be counted conveniently forget the fact that HRC was the only one on the ballot there. Fl, sure count that, but if she wants Michigan to count too I'll vote for mccain. Counting Michigan would just be UNdemocratic. But hey... as long as she wins right?
PT, Ft. Lauderdale, USA
Well, I am a 56-year-old WHITE woman and if Hillary steals this nomination from Obama, I'm here to tell you that his voters from ALL racial backgrounds will unite and make the Civil War look like a picnic in the park!!!
Democratic Party---DON'T underestimate us!!!
Mary Gray, Amherst, Ohio, USA
Many believe that Obama is running away with the Black vote. At the beginning of this race, Obama had very little support from the Black community. In fact, the papers and Clintons believed that "Obama isn't Black Enough!" Now, apparently, he is "TOO Black!" Please make up your mind.
Meredith Wilkerson, Aurora, USA
Those who find race to be a demotivating factor are hardly likely to be Clintonites instead. They will vote Republican as they always have. Obama at least has the potential to raise voter turnout among the young and ethnic minorities; with new demographics at the polls, all predictions are off
Sophie, Liverpool,
The Democrat Primaries do not end until June 3 and Senator Clinton has EVERY RIGHT to go all the way to the convention. Any attempt to usher her out before then only goes to prove that the democratic process has been perverted.
Andy, Boston, USA
Daphne,
2 of the 3 policemen in the shooting incident to which you refer were black. Pick the bones out of THAT one.
David Harrison, Manchester, UK
"Many Clinton supporters are equally adamant that their candidate must win because white Americans are not going to elect a black president."
I take grave offense to this author's notion that the only reason people might be adamant about Hillary Clinton is for fear of electing a black man.
Brandon, Delaware, OH, USA
Hillary is the true ELITE WHITE Women. She believe earn the right to be POTUS. Only thing she earn to be married to Bill Clinton. She and Bill did nothing special for black people in this country. If it wasn't for black people in this country there would not be a President Bill Clinton.
maria , Oahu, USA
I will NOT EVER vote for Barack Obama. If Hillary loses the nomnation then McCain will win. I have talked to hundreds of people on this issue and the facts are that if Obama gets the nomination we will vote for Mcain. Obama does not have the experience or common sense to run the country.
Kimmie, Florida, Florida
I believe people should just rest from watching so much tabloid News. The reality is that the democrats have the best policies, and in the end, it would be smart for the voters to focus on that. You can't give her the nomination because he's black and black people can't win. Ridiculous.
Rhonda, Durham,
There is no rule, whatsover, that a contender leading the delegate count should get the nomination unless it reaches 2025. Anything less than that should be decided by the superdelegates who are responsible to select the strongest candidate in November according to electability.
John_Lai, Seattle,
I's NOT "race" !! Hilary had cities BEFORE Obama was around. When Obama came along blacks who supported her jumped ship. Ok it is a special time in history. But please don't expect Hilary to just step aside. The issue is Obama's lack of experience. Blacks who support Hilary need to stand up loudly.
Michele, Springfield, Pa
The UK needs to worry about its own problems. USA Voters need to be heard. If Hillary wins the popular vote and the delegates are honest, their votes should follow. And vice versa. Words like "threaten" are not needed here. Hillary was the choice of the black dems until Obama. Blacks abandoned her.
Michele, Springfield, Pa
Hillary and Obama, the two wrong candidates. Bill Clinton's disgraceful comments from time a to time should discourage any sane voters from voting Hillary. Obama has no experience and does not know the world outside America. Looks like McCain's presidency. Democrats still can bring Al Gore.
Gary, LONDON,
I love it, such a naked display of how cheap and nasty is the desire for power. I think John McCain has been gifted the White House - yes?
martin, London, England
I would call on all Black Americans not to vote for Hillary Clinton & Bill Clinton and call Obama a Farytail like they think all Blacks in America are not real people. Have the Black race moved forward, we see Police officers Killing unarmed Black people because the legal system says they can.
Daphne Kenward, Cambridge, United Kingdom
I won't say all the HillBillies are racist, but a percentage definitely are - just look at some of the disgraceful comments here.
Any candidate who relies on these people's votes should feel sullied.
Ian, London,
F Walker of Annapolis; it doesn't matter if she's stealing it or not. what matters is that most black voters will see it that way.
The woman has lost. Face it.
Ian, London,
Hillary promised to "obliterate Iran". This reckless speech was just kind of ignored as: "A woman trying to prove she's tough" - I certainly hope not. How much does that put our country in jeapordy if she's in the White House?
RobinKleinrock, Springvale, Maine, USA
clinton did not win by double didgets as proposed to have happen, 9.2 is not 10. so why is she claiming victory. that small amount doesent show me that she can handle the u.s.
divielee, daytona beach, florida
By the way, I have a white female friend who is 60. She's supporting Obama and wouldn't consider voting for Clinton. The myth that white voters won't support him is false. Many white people support him and will continue. Given a choice between him and John McCain, other white dems will also.
Rhonda, Durham,
Liverpool and france? what do you know about the american voters? The Latino's and older voters will decide this election. The Clintons will break the part to keep thier power and then try to put togather a new party over the next 4 years. Its the only hope Hillary has of getting to the white house
Lonnie, hillsboro, OR, USA
I don't care for either of them, but at least with Hillary you know what your getting. Obama says he's for change, but that change will either bankrupt the country or us in taxes.
Tom, Mitchell , usa
So, some Clinton voters will refrain from voting for a candidate who is black because everyone but them is racist? Wow! Who knew? But all that aside, Obama is really scary. Unlike the Clintons. Who used the FBI to track political enemies in the House and Senate.
Joe, Jinju, Korea
Why don't Hillary Clinton just throw in the towel. See been in the White House before with her husband. What more does she want. Give the chance to either McCain or Obama
TO, PNG
tony, Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea
I've been a white woman all my life and am certainly not a misogynist! I was open-minded about Hillary Clinton at first, but now am appalled by her complete lack of dignity and scruples. Another woman will be the first woman president, sometime in the future, but not this time around.
Sally, B'ton, IN, USA
This election is going to be messy for Obama and Hillary.The loser at the end would be Democratic Party. I guess Hillary Rodham Clinton Should have drop out ealier on.Then she refused.The Black people that stand by her husband during the impeachement could now feel been used. A doomsday ?
John Lot, London/Arizona, UK/USA
Why should Clinton dropout? Why can't Obama dropout or is it that he to is in it for his own power and he is not thinking about our nation. What real experience does he really have? Do the pros and cons with both canidates and see what the results are.
n, Norfolk, Virginia
I've said all along that HIllary feels Obama took her turn and she will take him down....if she can't have it neither can he mentality. Why do you think she keep lifting McCain?
Cathy, Olathe , USA
Obama and Clinton are 2 heavyweights who have slogged it out to the bell, and both are lying flat on the canvas unable to fight the next fight in November. Enter Al Gore, the Democtrats only hope who will unite the party and beat McCain
John Dobson, Otterton Devon, UK
How short the memory of the media is, at the start of his campaign it was said that Obama lacked appeal amongst BLACK! voters because HE WAS NOT BLACK AND DID NOT HAVE THE RIGHT ATTITUDE TO CONNECT WITH BLACK VOTERS! .Now it seems that this same media claims his appeal is only to blacks..STRANGE??
Jamie Rose, London, England
I think that the comments of Clyburn show where he stands.
It is people like him who are dividing the nation. It is not a matter if you are black or white. This is not the issue. It is OK to attack Hillary but not Obama. This is crazy. The Obama campaign has been using the race card .
Elore, San Juan, Puerto Rico
I do believe that a joint ticket is the best of both worlds. I am split. I was a Clinton supporter however he win at no cost attitude seems a bit dangerous. To me..... I am more so leaning toward Obama.
Tia, Greenville, SC, USA
Obama can come back in 8 years when he will be 54. All the boomers will be dead or wont remember who he is or even their own names . This was always a bridge too far.
A black American president with what for a cabinet. South of the Mason Dixon line this was always a non starter.
Indiana Jones, Natal, Greenland
The rules for the Dem Primary were set at the beginning of the primary, before anyone became front-runner. FL and Mich chose to break the rules, knowing what the sanctions would be. No presidential candidate caused these states' votes not to be allowed.
PDM, B'ton, IN, USA
It is so very clear to me and to a lot of others that all Hillary Clinton is interested in now is ruining Barack Obama and trying to drag him down so much that he loses in November (which he won't). Her and her husband's ego cannot stand the possibility that someone else may take their control away
Jim Koury, Oneonta, USA
I strongly believe that the democratic party will eventually unite after june. however, what is Hillary still doing in a race that she knows for a fact she is not going to win, she showing people why she can not be trusted is like this is not about america this is about the clintons. please H think
adonato , St. croix, virgin islands, usvi
Obama is far more than "bland,inspirational flannel." He has revolutionized campaign funding and single-handedly taken
the advantage away from special interests in Washington.
That alone is historic,whether he wins the Presidency or not.
Rose Aladin, New Canaan, USA
Have McCain run with Senator Joe Lieberman. That would make everybody happy!
steve n, allendale,nj, usa
Clinton vs Obama = McCain
Klattu, HeartofDixie, AL, USA
I see Obama's slip of the tongue about "Bitter Gun toting people"
and his association with Wright as a gift.
It is like finding out about the new "Bo" and his true character flaws before you make the jump to marriage.
Information is powerful and we deserve the truth. Obama used his own paint brush.
Maria Delgado, Orange, So cal, USA
I think the new strategy of the GOP in attacking Obama through fierce ads suggests they are afraid of his candidature. I believe strongly that Obama's personality is universally likeable. He can re-sing the American love song and the world would listen and maybe dance.
Kingsley Kobo, Abidjan, Ivory Coast
I am afraid of OBAMA- but it has nothing to do with his color. He lacks the judgment to protect proud Americans from terrorists! He lacked judgment when he used cocaine. He lacked judgment when he sat in the pew of an unpatriotic racist for 20 years. He will raise taxes on middle americans!
lisa, plainfield , US
some people say they will move if FHRC wins or if BO wins. You all have a nice trip. Some say she or he has blown out cheap shots, they both have. some say it is about race and some say it is about gender, it is. I wish they would just stick to the issue, black,white,male or female is not the issue.
n, Norfolk, Virginia
Gosh people do you really want to see Bill hanging out with all of the wives of the foreign presidents when they come here for meetings if Hillary wins the presidency?
More sex scandals in the White house?
Gary, Niceville, FL, US
Why didn't Hillary drop after even straigt defeats two months? Because she knows many whites will not let her down by electing a black guy and of course, people population can't match whites'. If she gets the nomination, then the point will be a power warning that a black president is imposible now
Dut, Syracuse, NY,
I would like to think that Americans, with all their emphasis on religion all the time, are not closet racists, but I have my doubts. How hypocritical and depressing.
I hope Obama wins.
Jeannie Lucas, Westfield, United States
Americans will feel cheated if Obama does not get the nomination! He is ahead in delegates! He gets the nomination! It is not just black American --- it is all of America -- every race, color and greed that wants Obama. He has built a coalition of all people. He is a candidate for all the people
Heather , Seattle, USA
I was a clinton fan, but after 11 loses to Obama she should have quit, but didn't, then I realized that she does not care for the party but the Oval office, herself, bill and chelsy.
This election when it comes to play is not about hillary or Obama, it's about the democratic party and America.
Mark, Atlanta, USA
All I want to know is why people from other countries even have the audacity to make racist comments about Obama's race and vocabulary when they do not have the right to vote in America. How about you stop trying to create racial tension in our country and you fix what is wrong with yours.
Erica, Austell, USA
Problem,the human race is they talk about change, but when it come to it, the same thing happens again and again. Like relationship when people rather have something worst then something better, and find one little think to keep that bad thing, but when it done, they going to say i should have....
JT, Kansas City, USA
Looking at PA.. white vote 60-40 tells you that issues are considered.
If 90% vote is black, it is a racial vote & issues are not considered.
Vital, issues do need to be considered.
Hillary Clinton has always been a champion of the poor and minority.
Nadine Ritter, Los Angeles, USA
Obama is winning, and Hillary cannot expect to catch up, she just keeps changing the rules as she goes. The fact is, if Obama dropped out, he would lose all respect, be labeled a quitter by all future opponents (democrat and republican), and never have a chance to win anything again. No Hillary...
Darrin, San Jose, United States
Until we can stop having these types of articles regarding race, America will never blossom to her full potential as leader of the "free" world. If Obama can confront this issue of race head-on, then I'm confident he is able to lead this country into better tomorrows regarding other issues.
Ken Steward, UPLAND, PA, USA
I don't like the idea that Clyburn is suggesting voters will feel cheated if Obama isn't the nominee, that Bill Clinton brought race onto the scene, and that Hillary is making Obama unelectable. Obama is NOT the perfect candidate the media had made him. Hillary is the better choice !
Darla, Commerce,
And if the people want change, then vote for change, not because of something didn't the way it should go or someone still the nomination because people didn't like Kerry they voted for Bush, but guess what, look what happen
JT, Kansas City, USA
I thank God so much for this Democrat normination that has lingered. This will expose America to the world the more. This is a nation that has pretended to be democratical for so long. Now the whole world has known that America is a racist nation. Maybe Bush lying system is about to prevail in Dems
Dickson, Yongsan, Seoul, South Korea.
all its required to win the democratic race is 90% from the african-american community! we however need to note thats racism in its most ugly form! Democrats the world looks unto you to nominate the most electable!!!
bash, lagos, nigeria
The democratic party has been intentionally divided for years because of race. A black (mixed) man now leads in the race for the Democratic nomination and the race issue will be the ingrained element to destroy a sure victory. I say either accept Obama or watch him lose in November. And suffer.
RMills, Fort Washington,
If anyone here ever read a book outside of the biased media they would know the history of the Obama's and the Clinton's. The Obama's been strongly committed to public service for over 20 years and it doesnt matter if it were not on the same level as the Clinton's the Obama's have been there 4 all.
Shameka, Atlanta, USA
All you have to do is see is what Hillary has already done for Blacks compared to what Obama says he will do for them. She's tested and proven, he's a promise.
I'm a black man living in America. Just "WHAT" has Hillary done for us? I can't name one damn thing. You people need to get real!
Khalil, Atlanta, USA
What scares me the most about Obama is his followerers..like Rev. Wright..who by the way says he would like to be VP...also William Ayers...Reszo...his connections could be very dangerous..
dorothy, Trinity, USA
America has a chance to end the moral corruption rampant
in politics. Through honest leadership of
Barrack Obama, we can be lead to better world relations.
I partly agree with Melissa, London. The alienating risk happened already with the tactics used my the Clintons.
Kar, Poughkeepsie, USA
I am loving this! Watching the Democratopian party, the Party of Tolerance, cannibalize each other whilst espousing the rhetoric of "change", "unity", and "sniper fire" has been better than anything written by their pals in Hollywood.
steve breen, santa monica,
Obama is not a black man! Coloured? Yes
He's as black as he is white, the one-drop rule being used to term Obama as black is archaic and racist. Why does he have to choose a side? He is a mixed-race person but it goes to show how insensitive we all are to mixed-race people.
Buchi, Dublin, Eire
Chosing someone to lead our country should always be on the basis that this person is qualified to do so. Those super delegates should be mindful of THAT fact instead of worrying blacks will feel cheated or a race war erupting if they nominate the most qualified person to lead- Sen. Hillary Clinton
SS, SMALL CITY, USA
Well I agree that if Hillary does win, I wont vote at all. Not because its about race, its just that I feel that the Clintons have had there chance in the White House. Bill will pretty much be running things behind the scenes yet again. America does not need that again!!
Sabrina, College Park, Fulton
I want to know why the article had to mention that Whitworth was wearing a black Harley T-shirt. Did they mention any other persons attire?!?! NO. They have something against bikers? They calling us racist? Leave it to the media to try to add their own little points to make someone look bad!!
Mike L, Montgomery, Il., USA
oh come on people-get real. this isn't even a story, in that it poses no new in formation. it's merely, wether by design or not, a vehicle to renew the "race" frenzy. Now can we finally let obama be a politician instead of a "black" man. What's more important than change at this point in history.
Anthony, san francisco,
This democratic race reminds me of the biblical story where two women claim a baby. They are told that the baby will have to be cut in half to appease both women. One woman is happy with that decision, the other says to let the other woman have the baby to save it's life. I wonder which is which.
J. T., Baltimore, MD, USA
Oh for a candidate who can be believed. It is again fime for the "tell 'em what they want to hear" portion of democracy which rolls around every 4 years and every 4 years we hear the same tired old lies in a new wrapper. Whatever happened to "None of the above"?
Charles Roberts, Union City, TN,
How would she be stealing anything folks? The Superdelegates can vote any way they choose - don't you all know the rules? I am Black, female, 59 years old and support Senator Clinton. She has proven her mettle to me with body of work over her entire career. BHO has not been around long
enough.
f walker, annapolis, usa
Who cares? Democracy is the race to find the lowest common denominator. Voila!
Ian Cheese, london, UK
Clinton will split the democratic party? Are you joking? Why not talk to Brazile and Dean? Neither candidate has the votes necessary and not all votes have been cast. Lets not disenfranchise any others and let the primary season finish. It would be better to vote on the same day as we do in the GE.
Ms. Rather, Reno, Nevada, USA
What makes that foolish man think he is ENTITLED to win? Because he is black? He ought to resign now before he SHAMES the party. He has the votes of teenagers, "guilty" white elitiists & black bigots. If THAT is the Democratic Party, I am LEAVING it. He is an empty poseur. Make him go away!
Shawn, Jersey City, NJ
This isn't nearly as much about race as it is about EXPERIENCE. If Obama was better known, with experience, he wouldn't have any problems beating Hillary. We don't know him, and now here comes Rev Wright? Getting the picture?
Obama's biggest mistake is that he didn't wait for four more years.
Kamail, Portland, USA
Comments here blame Obama for Michigan and Florida
.
HRC past Autumn said that "Michigan does not matter and she does not care if she is even on the ballot". Now she (again) changes 180 degrees. There was film fottage. of it - so low !. (I am white by the way).
Lana VanEck, Grand Junction Colorado, USA
Interesting to finally see in a mainstream publication the much-whispered view that Hillary is so desperate to be President, she will even help McCain win in 2008, so she can have another attempt in 2012.
She can't now win the 2008 nomination - and this theory fits her character.
Martin, Amsterdam, Netherlands
I am a black Female, 62. I used to have the utmost respect for the Clintons. Since Hillary is so set on using ugly tatics to win this nomination, she has lost my reapect for her. I'm also sick of all this mess about Rev. Wright. This is just another ugly way to distract the attention off hillary.
Lula, Cordova, SC
How is Obama cheating the people who didn't vote in Florida and Michigan? He is open to a revote but it would be too expensive. I see many Clinton supporters sayng how "Hillary wants to count everyone no matter what!" No she wants to count people when its convinient for her
Andrew, Miami, United States
Obama can only blame himself for his decline. His associations with Rev Wright the anti-American preaching mentor of Obama's adult life , the American terrorist /bomber who shows no remorse and was there when Obama started planning his presidential campaign , and indicted influence peddler neighbor
Rick, SAlisbury , MA, USA
I'm an Obama supporter. A 56 year-old, white male, college- educated. The sad fact is that the Clintons are Machiavellians--first, second and last. They happen to be democrats; but, in another age and time, they would still be Machiavellians. Go Barack !
Steven Anderson, Appleton, Wisconsin, USA
Either way i really do think America is not ready for Obama. If Rice or powell were to run its different, Obama lacks the experience to rule the most powerfull country the world has ever known.
oje Ilaboya, Lagos, Nigeria
I could never vote for Hillary because of the way she has run her campaign. She has shown her true colors -she lusts for power and would sell her soul for it. I believe in Obama because he has the best ETHICS. His desire to lead our country is sincere of heart, and comes from a great, positive soul.
Debra, Austin, USA
This claim that blacks will somehow be "cheated" if Obama is not the nominee - cheated? How? If the super delegates vote as supposed to, and they vote for Hilary - how is that cheating? Time will tell, but the only people being cheated now are voters in FL and MI if their votes aren't counted
Nona, New York City, USA
Barack Obama is going to end in June with more delegates, states and most likely the popular vote. He will have earned the Democratic nomination. Period.
Sandra, Washington DC, USA
Sounds like it's over for the Dems. They just can't win....even if they win they split the party. Well, there's always The Libertarians I guess.
Moe, Omaha, Ne
Hillary is not stealing the nomination. She is winning the popular vote, has won the biggest states and an equal number of primaries. If this was a winner take all contest she would be way ahead. The only reason obama is ahead is the caucuses, which favor his electorate. Hillary has the momentum
Lynette, Dc,
What don't you all get? It's all about Hillary...Where do 'we' fall in the equation...
Melissa, Lawrenceville, USA
This white woman also voted for Obama. I can't believe that they're still discussing Michigan and Florida votes. This "win the nomination" by breaking all the rules disgusts me. Anything other than going with the popular vote would would lose the democrats my vote in November!
JK, Euless,
people say they don't have a problem having a black man as a presiden't.fine--then you will have no problem with this.lord,i ask right now, that obama will be our next presidnt,and that you will bless him each new day.help be an excelent president.amen.
sandra, elsinore, united states
If hillary wins the nomination she loses the election. she loses the black vote and she loses the youth, If obama wins the nomination and loses the election hillary will be blamed and never be forgiven. The best she can do is quit now help obama win win the election and keep political prominance
albert saad, dearborn , wayne
if there's anything i would love today, it would be to listen to the conversations on the Clinton family dinner's! (if they still have one)
A few years ago in college, i suggested that Bill Clinton is a narcissist. They don't all have to be violent, but they sure do demand entitlements!
Josh, New York,
Rep. Clyburn's statement "We'll be playing with fire if we interfere with the voters' choice" insinuates he won't accept the decision of the superdelegates, who should vote for which one can win against McCain. If he loves his party and respects its rules, he won't make such divisive statements.
Betty, Topeka,
27% of Florida 20% in Penn. and 19% Ohio voters said America was not ready for a black president IS FALSE, because it is a poll of DEMOCRATIC VOTERS ONLY. Add in the voice of Independents and Republicans and the numbers in each state would be above 50%. Obama cannot win the GENERAL - racism is alive
jonathanseer, harker heights, tx, usa
It is precisely sentiments such as, "Well the more I learn about Obama the more I find him scary" and followed by the epitome of guilt ridden racist conscience,, "It's not that I am racist but others are" that needs to be condemned.for
its profoundly fear based racist stance.
Neil Samuels, Fort Lee, US
Clyburn is uncommitted? C'mon he is aware that Obama is not running as a "black candidate" so why use this argument? It only serves to create an adversarial position of blacks against white working class voters or older white women. I speculate it was intentional and obviously aids Clinton.
Jeffrey Johnson, CA, United States
I will say what nearly every white man and woman American is thinking "WE DON'T want a black president now or ever!", our voices will be heard in November. It will be either John McCain or Hillary Clinton. If he is elected we will do all we can to make his presidency a failure. You can count on it!
Dan, Madison County, USA
its not about race its about clinton being a female and males dont like it when females take there place thats what its about not race thats just people hiding the truth in a closet.
stacy, fort wayne,IN allen county, united states
To everyone:
The democratic party set up the rules about the states voting. When Fla. & Mich. tried to weasel another way to have their votes count - AFTER - going against the rules, Hillary tried to help them. B.O. tried to stay out of it because it was up to the party ITSELF to make the decision.
Eloise, Half Moon Bay, USA
When Bush won presidency without the popular vote, it's unfair; but when Barack's winning the popular vote, they say Hillary should have won candidacy because more Hillary friendly rules exist, which decrease equal representation. Dem voters hate playing by the rules.
Casey, Dallas,
To the posters who ask why would Obama cheat Florida and Michigan.He followed the rules of DNC. Campaigns base their strategy around these rules and when a potential nominee wants to change the rules mid election it begs the question why they did not object earlier.
Jeffrey Johnson, CA, United States
I got tired of Bill & Hillary in their first 8 yr. Same game different lineup. But if they keep up this battle we will have another 4 years of a republican presient
Ray, Austin, TX,
There wasnt any severe racial contreversy until the Clintons performed their little viscious manuevors just before Pennsylvania primaries. Im white and I havent changed my mind even for a second. Lets get the job done and nominate Obama in the name of truth and change. And shame on you Penn.
Orlin Larsen, Yreka, USA
I'm a black woman, and am not voting for Hillary because she supported the war in Iraq. If Obama had voted to authorize the war or spoken out in favor of the war, I wouldn't be voting for him, either. Kucinich was my first choice. People favor candidates for all sorts of reasons, not only race.
Bambi, Brooklyn, America
I don't know how people of color have the audacity to call white people racist. Nine out of every ten people of color vote for their color and protest whites vote against color. More whites have voted for a black than blacks have for a white. Maybe voters have finally learned some facts about Obama.
Joyce, Smithville, usa
The Clintons are not racist but they are trying to win a very important contest. They are pitting groups of people against each other to win an election. If we fall for it, the fault lies with us not them and it will go down in the play book as a great strategy. Bush was elected twice.
Jeff, CA, United States
I am a Texas Democrat, who has always voted Democrat. I don't think Hillary Clinton's Campaign has promoted racial tones. I think the Media has been turning things into racism and in doing so, I think they are working for the Republicans to win. Not for Obama, though.
Rutha Larison, Seguin, USA
Don't know about the rest of you, but I was never ever going to vote for Hillary. Me and the majority of Democrats and US citizens -- remember Hillary's negatives before this got going?
What made HRC think she wouldn't split the party with 50+ percent negatives???? This was bound to happen.
jz, nyc, usa
Like hell Obama will be the next president. Do we want this country to go up in smoke. I don't. Obama is not decent to be a president in any respect. His heart is in the wrong place.
John Doe, Guymon, USA
Sounds like Clyburn is choosing his race over his party. Plus, if Dems do not go to the polls and McCain wins and we will have even worse of a recession and more tax breaks for rich... I really thought this is about supporting Democratic party no matter what That shows his priorities I guess.
Dmitriy, Oceanside, US of A
Why is every one complaining about HRC tactics being despicable. This is nothing like what's going to happen in the general OBAMA should grow-up and act like a man. welcome to big league.
JOHN W. GAULT, cleve. hts., USA
The Super Delegates (SD) are only part of the problem. Each States SD leader can nominate Super Duper Delegates based on population. The number, I believe is 74. The Democratic Party really believes in voting. Until the right result turns up.! Vote early and often.
Desmond Taylor, Houston, USA Tx
Why Obama is considered Black, when he is half and half. i have a nephew who is half Italian and half Black, his wife is hispanic, they have 4 children what race would you consider their children to be? The world is changing. In current Foreign Policy, the leaders we deal with aren't white.
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Adrienne Poremba, Novato, United States
This is all food for the media. After one vote at the convention (with neither candidate winning) , a compromise candidate will be chosen. Al Gore, possibly, with Richardson as VP (for the Latino vote). The Democratic Party is not about to commit suicide!
Don, Yukon, OK., USA
Clinton has done huge damage to the chances of the Democrats .. far more than McCain.
If she wins the nominaiton.. me and my checkbook that has helped Obama will be voting for McCain.
I' m an independent... and that was the first time I ever voted in a Democratic primary.. White - 43-.
Jeff, Dayton , USA
I thank all of the people who have stated their views, good or bad, Americans or not. If nothing else it shows you care about the future and the human experience in the USA. It would be nice if people actually did factual research before making comments, which could influence others.
Knightigar, York, USA
Don't vote on your emotions people,vote on the cold hard facts!!! Most of you have gotten caught up in all this negative campaign...That's why the Founding Fathers invented the Electoral College;they felt that the general public was too gullible and uninformed to make rational decisions..
B George, Indianapolis, Indiana USA
The thought of Hillary or Mccain winning sends a chill down my spine, have the Americans not realised the cost of a crazy leader hell bent on war. I predict a world that will be at war with casualties on a scale not seen in recent history, courtesy of the "obliterator."
Do you people not learn!
Leah, London, UK
What's crazy is that if Obama would have waited 4 or 8 years, none of this division would have occurred. He knew Hillary was running for president and was in it to win. Did he really think she was going to back down just because a few men tell her to? Hillary voters are going to feel gipped too.
Ellie, Dayton, USA
Obama's wife said in televised speech "first time I am proud to be an American" when her husband became candidate. Obama sat through atleast 500 sermons in 20years hearing "God damn America" . He derides "less educated, gun loving, religion clinging" Democrats. Hell no, I won't vote for him !!
Lee, Mesa, AQZ, USA
Think,if America was proper in it's own rights(history).No need for any issues such as this would exist.Just people with true GODLY SPIRITS.
Tony, Smallville, USA
Isn't Obama's mum white ?
why does the media have to label people Black or White?
It only does it when it wants to divide people
mjf, london,
Americans must not be sentimental about the candidate issue. Only one person has to win. In the end, the aim of the party and its supporters is to win the national elections. I am African and I am female so you'd understand that I have no prejudice. In the end, Clinton is more matured for McCain.
Elizabeth Reid, Delhi, India
It appears that Hillary is more concerned with a personal victory than a Democratic one. It will be very hard for the winner to beat MCain after such a painful and unethical campaign. One would think Obama and Clinton were on opposing sides, not members of the same party. She should be ashamed.
P Webster-Brown, Alton, UK
Obama is who "inspired" me into this race but Hillary is why I am here. She DOES have more experience in life also, as well as, politics. Obama would be a GREAT VP & in 8 years, prob- ably, a GREAT President. Lets have our "cake and eat it too." Hillary HAS ALWAYS been on our side Remember that !
Hal, Las Vegas, USA
So "African-Americans will feel cheated." SInce there are more white voters than black, won't they feel cheated if Mrs Clinton is not the candidate? The election is about policy, not color.
David Cunard, Los Angeles, United States
Hillary has won the electorial college vote and that's what should count. Did'nt Bush win over Gore on the same basis? I don't see how she steals the nomination because there are so many disputable elements in the whole process. Dean should step out and let reality emerge with time.
Jane, Paris, France
Obama is the better canididate for the presidency. Yes he has a pastor with bad beliefs and ideas. But a person defines who they are by their own actions & not by someone else actions or beliefs. And remember John McCain has sought out an endorsement from Controversial Televangelist John Hagee.
Marc , Bangor, Pa, U.S.A
I think we have had enough of yesterday's politics. The Clinton's have had their turn. If you notice I stated the Clinton's and not Hillary Clinton because to put Hillary in the White House will be having Bill Clinton all over again. It is time for a change in this country, not business as usual.
D. Dyer, Chicago, IL, USA
Why does it always have to racism when, you act agains a African- American but good politics when you are for. I am still voting Republican because the Democratic party doesn't want my vote anyways - From Michigan.
Steve Cae, detroit,
Why is it that Barack is always accused of "playing the race card"? He NEVER has. People don't want to admit it, but race is an issue in this election. 27% of voters in FL saying America is not ready for a black president. 20% in Ohio, 19% in Penn. I believe the numbers are higher.
rosalyn, tallahassee, united states
Unfortunately all of you are right. Even Wright was right. The truth is... American society is still racist and gender biased. Wright was telling the truth in his so-called anti-American and "racist" sermons. The United States uninvited military presence in the Middle East DID bring us to war. Ditto
Tina Gross, Wellsboro, Pa, US
I suggested a Gore-Hilary Clinton ticket in the Hanging Chad election, knew Bush was going into Iraq and there were no weapons of mass destruction. Hilary Clinton-OBama ticket makes sense. He can get some experience for 8 years. I thought IRAQ oil was to pay for the war... let's get out ASAP.
Bill, Illinois, USA
Race, color? Experience is what is needed here! The country is in serious economical trouble. We need someone who can pull us out of this slump and Obama does not have the experience/knowledge to do this. Can anyone undo what Bush has created?
Jeanne, Omaha, USA
McCain is far too liberal for me, and Hillary and especially Obama are also without saying out of the question. I'm voting Constitution Party this time. I'm tired of illegal immigration ruining my state and costing taxpayers.
Greg , Fort Worth,TX, US
I don't understand why it would be thought a "get to the back of the bus" move by super delegates to give the nomination to the best candidate. Obama has to have his supporters, camp and himself, stop playing the race card every time it seems he is failing or things don't go the way he expects.
Karen, Massachusetts, USA
Obama is half African-American. He's also half white. The constantly mentioned, supposed racial element to all of this is tedious.
Hillary is a far better choice. She has more words in her vocabulary than 'change', and some concrete policies instead of bland aspirational flannel.
David Harrison, Manchester, UK
USA needs a decisive and leader with difinitive poilies which protect the USAs world position - McCain, something our Democrat equivalent Labour Party have NOT done here.
I see such a parallel here Blair = Obama - Brown = Clinton. One party, ridden with an evil streak of enmity dividing the party
Drew, Nottingham,
America is split on Clinton / Obama - pretty much 50-50. The only way to bring the party together and not risk alienating half of the Democratic voters is to stop this now & have them run on a joint ticket! It could be the best of both worlds...
Melissa, London & Philadelphia, UK & USA
The female gets the womens' vote, the black guy gets the black vote and neither group intends to support the winner if he's note from their "minority" group. So a white, Christian extremist from the other side isn't abandoned by his part'y's voters and gets the prize. Democrats gets the booby prize!
jax, Paris, France
After NC and IN Sen. Clinton chances will go from slim to nearly impossible. The fact that she is willing to risk another 4 years of Bush (Version 2.0) by continuing, demonstrates she is NOT fighting for us ... just for her own power.
RC, Smalltown, US, US
All of this depends who turns out to vote. Its a fact that minority ethnic voters have the worst turnouts of all, along with younger voters. If Obama can motivate them to vote - and the evidence suggests he can - then the electoral arithmetic may be very different.
Mike Homfray, Liverpool,
What I find most curious is that were the tables to be turned, that is were Clinton the frontrunner, by now the Democratic Party machine would have hounded Obama out of the race so 'as not hurt our party in the fall'. This is truly sad.
chuku, chijioke chuku, Abuja, Nigeria
The Reps women truly are lined up to vote for Hillary to break the glass ceiling, but they won't vote for Obama. The Dems miscalculated & the blacks were disloyal to Hillary who did a lot for them. They could have had 8 years of Hillary and 8 years of Obama. Instead, they will probably get nothing.
Bevv, Crystal Lake, IL, USA
McCain is popular with Democrats, and Independents, and is winning over the conservative base who will vote out of hatred for Obama and Clinton. If Obama runs, Clinton's supporters will voteMcCain. If Clinton runs, Black voters will stay home. It will be McCain in '08.
Blaine, Scottsdale, AZ, USA
Faith is a moving force here on earth and Hilary exemplifies her faith on herself, on her destiny and on God. In god we trust seem to be forgotten by the young americans because they want to play God.
smarty, aTlanta, GA
A leader is chosen by the generality of people and as of now the majority are saying something ,are they not HRC?
perkins nyakudya, harare, zimbabwe
i believe now that the Clintons know that they can not win this thing against Obama so the game plan is this: to bruise Obama heavily so that he would be defeated in the fall. Then Hillary can come back in 4 years rather than in 8 years and Obama would have had his chance at the national polls.
Ikem Umealo, London, England
Its Democracy! The Clintons are complying with the rules. You lot want to break all the rules because you think it would be 'good' to have a black president. you are all being racist.
Andy, london,
I am appalled at the lengths the Clinton's will go to keep power and I am horrified by the biased reporting I see in most of the Western English language media. Whoever wins, you must make a law that one man or corp. can own no more that a total of 1 newspaper, 1 TV station and 1 internet site.
victor compton, Cherbourg, France
Clinton's supporter is right: she will NEVER be forgiven by the Blacks and us Whites Americans (young, old, religious, atheists, poor, affluent, etc.) who want a President with a social and moral conscience.
susan trevelyan-syke, london , england
So if 27% of Florida voters think America is not ready for a black president my maths tells me that 73% think it is (or are, at worst, neutral on the topic), surely the more reportable figure?
The key to the election will be the strength of support the Dem loser gives the winner against McCain
Bill, Ramsey, England
All you have to do is see is what Hillary has already done for Blacks compared to what Obama says he will do for them. She's tested and proven, he's a promise. If she wins the popular vote, she should win the nomination. One day Blacks will remember what she has already done for them and support her
ZR, ABQ, NM,
Obama and Clintons drawn out bid for the nomination is handing McCain the white house. He is a shoo in no matter who he runs against. The long running delegate election process will have cost them the ultimate prize.
Barry Peile, Dubai, United Arab Emirates
Race doesn't matter to me. I'm a 58 year old white woman. I'm white, I'm, old, and I'm a blue collar worker, and I'll vote for Obama over Clinton in a NewYork minuet.Here's a very intersting news clip about Clinton Paul vs Clinton google it, you'll be glad you did.
Kathy
kathy, jonesboro, arkansas, united states
I am apalled at the "win at all cost" of the Clintons. I sincerely believe that what America needs at this time is a TOTAL DEPARTURE from the politics of the yesterday. If America fails to take the initiative in the Worlds politics it will be left in the cold. Obama offers the way to this new dawn
CHIJIOKE CHIGOZIE, Abuja, Nigeria
"Many Clinton supporters are equally adamant that their candidate must win because white Americans are not going to elect a black president." I think that statement is completely inaccurate. I don't think race is the case. I think MOST of her supporters are not driven by race or gender.
Jeanne, Austin, TX,
Obama leads in delegates, popular vote and states won. If he holds down those leads there is no way that the superdelegates can give it to Clinton.
Sean, Alexandria,
Everything about her has dug through for 15 years. There is nothing left to discover or know about her. I trust her and believe she would be an excellent POTUS. I don't care if he is purple. I believed in Jesse, I don't believe in Obama. The more I know about him the less I like him.
Jeanne, Austin, TX,
Take a good look at Obama. He is a black man but votes 95.5% of the time the way the party wants him to. He does not aleays vote for the poor, he votes for the people who give him money.(he only votes about 45% of the time. I would love a good Black to be president, Obama is not that man.
Hank D, Miami, USA
unify you, in what way? bring you together for what?
Jeff, Chicago,
Rasmussen polling today said that nationally Obama polls just as well against McCain among white people as Hillary does.
It's factually inaccurate to focus on a specific segment of white voters and say Obama won't get white votes. The vast majority of his votes so far have come from white voters.
Nancy, Portland, USA
What is the point of having superdelegates if they feel forced to follow the popular vote?
Jay, Cork,
Obama is nothing but a motivational speaker.His mentors are extremists that hate the USA!
Oprah Winfrey proved this was just about race by backing him.
Obama is out of touch with the reality that is the USA.
Hilary Clinton is indeed in the lead but the political system has once again been rigged.
James, London, UK
'race always matters'... i can't believe i just read that. if barack obama cannot win an election mainly because his skin isn't white thats a major problem - particularly when his message is one of unity and not division. if you base your vote on skin tone your simply being duped.
tom job, liverpool, UK
If Hillary just plays fair and focuses on what she perceives to be her strength rather than hitting on Obama and trying to brainwash the American public on negatives to make herself look good, the race card would not have been an issue. Actions, not words say a lot about a person.
Luis, Manila, Philippines
Hillary Clinton suffers from a fantasy that she is the front-runner, and with her loony math and kitchen-sink-sewer campaign, wants Obama to give her FREE AIR TIME to debate her for the TWENTY-SECOND time. As an American patriot, I urge the Clintons to shut up already!
lyn, Eureka, California
Senator Obama is serving his first term for the Senate and President George Bush served just over one term as governor of Texas. Experience counts and Senator Obama doesn't have enough yet. I can not vote for the most liberal and least experience canidate and that has nothing to do with race.
Jeffery Marshall, Dallas, usa
Margaret Thatcher? Winston Churchill? Both based their debated reputations on conflict. Churchill was a war leader who got voted straight out when the war was over. Maggie defended the Falklands but is still hated by many in England. Hillary is an unexceptional individual when compared to either.
tom job, liverpool, UK
When Shirley Chisholm made her run for the White House she said her biggest hindrance was not her race, but her gender. I think being a female, of any color, you are generally not taken as a serious candidate for any postion besides sales clerk, teacher or maid. Remember we were the last to vote?
Jeanne, Austin, TX,
If the Democrats nominate Obama this year, they are given the this golden opportunity of winning back the white house to McCahn. It is not that the country is not ready for a black President, it is the candidate, stupid!
I would vote for Colin Powell with no hesitation. Obama is not the one!
chris, Chandler, USA
It is sad the american blacks blame others for their not registering to vote until they have a black candidate.
I was naive enough to believe that they were voting like the rest of us, in all the elections. If they do not want a say, then they should stop complaining.
Their fault and now this....
CFritz, Charlotte, United States of America
Americans are delusional if they think race is not a factor in this election. As a Canadian it is interesting to sit and watch all the commentary about Obama and Clinton. Regardless of what you all say, white Americans will not vote for a black man. I predict McCain will win the November election.
Tony Parks, Ontario,
M Hutchinson, atlanta...maybe YOU forgot...but women (of any color) were not ALLOWED to vote until 1920. Women fought for many years for the right and many were beaten, arrested and ridiculed. "Stupidity is a choice "Ignorance is Taught" who taught you?" so...who taught you??
Jeanne, Austin, TX,
Race has only become talked about issue at this time because it is timely for the Clinton camp . They are trying to throw out whatever in order to "win". Those of us who understand these things will not be swade in the least bit. Clinton's team thinks blue collar workers will fall for this farse.
R. Bryant, Glen Burnie, MD, US
Reading through these posts, I find it amazing Clinton supporters seem to live in the "IF" world They are right at home with the Clintons and their "IF" spins!
The Clintons opened the race card and It's sad to see the KKK is in full force in the land of equality and freedom! Unbelievable!!
NinaK, Lakewood, USA
I will vote for Hillary Clinton, I voted for George Bush and I voted for his Father also.But if Hillary gets defeated I will vote for MCain. Margaret Thatcher was the best Prime minister apart from Winston Churchill in England,Hillary is the same type of Woman, she will make a good President.
Audrey Blake, Los Angeles, USA
Given Senator Obama is far ahead on all counts, it would be extremely foolish for the superdels to hand Hilliary the nomination. The backlash would be horrendous and Hilliary will have destroyed the party. AT 60 yrs old, Hilliary is forgetful, sleep deprived, and exhausted--Bill Clinton said so!!
NinaK, Lakewood, USA
Don't make this act of voting such a "cerebral" thing ! It's really quite simple ! Check your values.....select a party ! Check your tribal affiliations ......select a candidate ! I choose to be a Democrat ! And vote for that Irish guy from Illinois.. O'Bama ! NOT the priveliged "fighter" !!
Dan O'Neill, Stillwater,Minnesota, USA
First America needs to realize that they are NOT voting for a Black Candidate but a candidate of Mixed Heritage. We forgot
his mother,grandfather,grandmother, and relatives are white.
He is 50% WHITE and 50% BLACK, like millions of other children of mixed marriages that is changing Americas' race
Cary, Williamsville, USA
how can you say Hillary is cheating to win the only thing she is doing is fighting to save this country. she will be a hugh asset to America. obama does not have what it takes to run this country hillary does.she's proving that now. you counted her out too soon cause she's back with a vengeance.
teresa, wytheville, us
John F Kennedy was not considered electable because he had Irish and Catholic roots. And yet, today, his name evokes the most presidential American in the history of the United States. This year, America will either make history or have its global reputation in tatters for its rampant racism.
Edward Nobel Bisamunyu, London, UK
pennsylvania was won by mass retail campaign tactics. Hillary,Bill,Chelsea and Rendell campaigning full bore against a lone Obama. That scenario plus the misrepresented image of Rev Wright by Fox news trumps Obama's outspending Hillary's ads. Score should have been a lot worse than a 9.2% win.
gianis, decatue al, morgan
American hypocrytes...... Democracy is about 1 person 1 vote.
Flawed election system in Primaries and ....
1. It is not democratic to deny votes of Florida & Michigan voters
2. It is the nation's democrats deciding between Clinton & Obama - therefore total votes should decide contest,
Richard, Bucharest,
Gore for VP!!!!!, 8 years on the job experience. internet inventor and saviour of global warming!!!! How can we lose?
gianis, decatue al, morgan
It's been pretty clear from the commentary on this campaign that the bigots are more than happy to put aside their racism temporarily in order to let their misogyny out in full force.
Trish, Portland,
If Hillary is selected by the superdelagates even if Obama wins popular votes and most delagates, would make me (a dedicated Democrat, who has cast his vote for the Party since Carter), I would vote for McCain..."JUST BECAUSE!"
Terry, Gray, Georgia, USA
As a Black woman in America, it bothers me that people think that American Blacks can not think for themselves and vote for the candidate of their choice based on their ideas and not on the color of their skin. How many Black presidential candidates have society seen us vote for? NONE!
Meredith Wilkerson, Aurora, USA
Doesn't matter to me either way. John McCain gets my vote!
Connie, Bremen, USA
Quit looking at the color of the cantidates, and start looking at their campaign platform. Race should not be an issue when it comes to the president, neither should gender be.
GBLT support, The Iraq issue, Internal Issues, thats what should count.
Jerry, Commerce, USA
Oba