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The big question before Thursday’s night’s eagerly awaited vice-presidential debate between Sarah Palin and Joe Biden was which Sarah Palin would show up? The populist, wow-em, conservative-delighting flame-thrower from the Republican convention four weeks ago? Or the mumbling, incoherent clearly-out-of-her-depth ingénue from recent television interviews?
Thanks to those disastrous TV outings, expectations for her performance before the debate were so low that she could have exceeded them simply by coming on stage and smiling beatifically for an hour and a half.
But she did much better than that, once again confounding her condescending critics with a pleasing fluency and an engaging folksiness, and for the moment at least putting a crucial floor under the McCain campaign’s freefall of the last two weeks.
It was in fact, an impressive debate. Expectations for Senator Biden had not been all that high either, given his long-established tendency towards prolixity and logorrhea. But he delivered a highly effective performance. He was coherent and impassioned and mercifully concise, a 36-year veteran of the US senate clearly in command of his political brief. He also skilfully avoided the pitfall of appearing unchivalrous by going after his opponent. He scored points instead by sticking resolutely to repeated, fierce attacks on her running-mate (and his Senate colleague and friend) John McCain.
On the substance, you might choose to award the debate – just - to Senator Biden. He seemed more in command of the issues and answered the questions from Gwen Ifill, the moderator, more directly, while Mrs Palin – poised and fluent as she was - gave the impression at times she was cleaving closely to campaign talking points.
But impressions may matter more to voters than evidence of detailed knowledge of Washington policymaking.
The Alaska governor set the tone for the evening by greeting Senator Biden on stage at the start with a disarming question, clearly audible through her lapel microphone, “May I call you Joe?”
She punctuated most of her answers with the sort of colloquialisms rarely heard in the liberal metropolitan citadels of New York, Washington and Los Angeles.
“Doggone it”, “You betcha!”, she said for emphasis at times. She talked at one point about the values of “Main Street, Wasilla”, the town where she was mayor until a few years ago. She sang the praises of elementary school pupils and made a virtue repeatedly of not knowing much about the ways of Washington.
The folksiness helped reinforce the message of the Washington outsider and the McCain campaign’s theme of reform of a corrupt and out-of-touch government. Neither she nor Sen Biden had much new to say on the financial crisis engulfing America but her insistence that at root the problem was not just about Wall Street corruption but about a failure of personal responsibility among all Americans probably resonated with voters.
Mrs Palin seemed more shaky than Senator Biden on foreign policy, as you might expect. She misidentified Gen David McKiernan, the Nato commander in Afghanistan, calling him Gen McLellan, and seemed to misunderstand a question about possible US use of nuclear weapons.
Senator Biden’s most effective moment was probably when he challenged Mrs Palin’s claim that Senator McCain was a maverick, who had been out of step with President George Bush. The Democratic candidate reeled off a long list of foreign policy issues – from Iraq to Iran and Israel – where Senator McCain had dutifully supported President Bush.
How much the vice-presidential debate matters is highly questionable. Perhaps the single most famous moment in any such debate was when Lloyd Bentsen, the Democratic vice-presidential nominee in 1988 eviscerated Dan Quayle, his Republican opponent in 1988 by deriding his claim to the John F Kennedy mantle. A month or so later Senator Bentsen and his running-mate Michael Dukakis, went on to lose that election in a landslide to George Bush Senior.
But in this election, at a critical moment when the tide has clearly turned against Senator McCain, a dreadful performance by Mrs Palin, reminiscent of her recent TV appearances, might have come close to burying the Republicans.
Instead, she seemed sure-footed and likeable, erasing many of the doubts that surrounded her and breathing at least a little hope to a fairly demoralised Republican camp.
Last week, Senator McCain probably lost his first debate against Senator Obama by not winning it.
On Thursday night Mrs Palin won her debate by not losing it.
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I was so impressed with Sarah Palin's performance, my husband and I are going to wait three hours to see her Monday morning in Clearwater, Florida! She has such hutzpah to take on Biden, the so-called 39 year veteran Constitutional lawyer on his own familiar turf.
Susan Levine, Tampa, FL, USA
The trouble is that while to those that listened to the questions and the answers JB was clearly the winner, those that watched the show, saw SP as the winner. Sadly, these days everything is a show and most people are blinded by it rather than the facts.
Graeme, toronto, canada
I am tired of the media harping on winning by not losing. The U.S.. President should be a solid winner not a floundering user of flash cards who is awarded a participant ribbon. And that was Palin pure and simple. Do you really see her as President? Seriously.
Mr. Butler, Richmond, USA
Were I a US voter, "none of the above" would have had my vote for as long as I can remember. Why can't the Yanks find some decent material for such an important office?
Adam, Oxford, UK
Palin didn't answer one question - she stuck to her script from the beginning. It's frightening to think she could be President. It's even more frightening to think the comments from my fellow Americans who think she's great are real. Never overestimate the intelligence of the American people.
Teri, San Francisco, CA, US
Palin's experience? Making rape victims pay for their own rape kits. Using her position as governor to get her former brother-in-law fired. Sueing the U.S. gov't to keep polar bears off the endangered list so she can drill for oil. And can't name a single newspaper she reads. I am horrified.
Sunshine, Minnesota, USA
I am so sick of that word. Folksy. It's not folksy. It's stupid. And it's patronizing. She has insulted my intelligence. As a member of the middle class. As an American. And as a woman who has been in situations where I have had to prove myself -- through substance, not looks or "playing cute."
Michelle , Nebraska, United States
Who exactly are some of the commenters on here trying to kid? Palin could only trot out the standard Republican lines even after days of McCain's team cramming facts into her head. The fact that she includes the odd 'folksy' expression and winks at the camera cannot hide this basic fact.
Owen, London, UK
If after 30 years JB could only manage a draw with a woman that has been in this game for barely a month then give me SP any time. And if any of you think that he did so much better, you are fooling yourself. Unlike Hillary she is a self made woman ( not beholden to her husband for her career, )
tanya, Baton Rouge, LA , USA
Good grief..stop seeing the pres/vp election as a personality contest...you're not in high school. If you go to a doctor, you would choose one who's competent, same with any profession. Pick the most competent team! Palin has no grasp of the major issues, winking/ avoiding answering qs = failure
David Brown, Coronado, USA
Sarah Palin would fight terror to the end. Don't make me laugh.
She said McCain knowshow to win a war. How? He spent most of it in prison. He was a soldier and hero yes. But that doesn't mean he knows. He was never a general running a war.
She would simply 'surge' many men to their death.
Paul, Toronto, Canada
If you were pulling for Palin, she won. If you were for Biden, he won. This election will be decided not on the strength of these debates, but on the all-important "undecided" voters. The side that wins will be the one that gets more of these voters to the polls. Just ask Al Gore.
Bruce Hebert, Panama City, Florida, USA
She recited her lines with poise and confidence, but rarely ANSWERED a single question! At best, her responses came within a football field - oops, hockey rink - of the subject. At worst, her responses were on entirely different subjects than the question asked. She is totally ignorant & proud of it
Sarah Mills, Greenwich, CT,
Palin may not have all the experience yet, but she will get it fast. She showed again that she is smart and determined, two good combinations for success. She also showed flexibility and tolerance towards different opinions. As Geraldine Ferraro said on channel 4, "she is ready"!
Anne , LA, USA
I've been on the fence this election but after last nights speech I am more inclined to vote McCain. I was not impressed with Biden and don't see he will bring change to gov't. Palin brings a fresh approach w/o the baggage and McCain has proven his ability to work with Democrats.
Jim, Charlotte, USA
It seems many of the comments here come from the RNC who say Palin won, to lift their campaign. There's no way that Palin won the debate. Look at other blogs and focus groups across the country and what real people have to say, and majority agreed that Biden won the debate.
Arlene, LA, CA,
Governor Palin has common sense and charm. She can rely on advisors and experts for the detail when she eventually becomes President.
Payne, Honolulu,
I just can't believe that anyone can imagine that SP 'won' - she sounded like someone on 'Just a Minute', where people speak for a minute on a subject and it doesn't really matter what they say so long as they keep speaking without pause and it is vaguely relevant to the subject.
Po[[y, Eastbourne, England
Let's get real people, neither of them won but Biden showed coherence and understanding, whereas the Republicans should thank the Lord, the woman did not blunder through it, like all her interviews. Those thinking that Sarah Palin is your saviour, should she become president, you will regret it.
Jessica, Coventry , United Kingdom
My wife is the undecided voter who will decide this election. She was for Obama then switched to McCain after Palin's acceptance speech. She swirched to Obama after the Tina Fey skits (she didn't see the actual interviews). After last night she is back in the McCain camp.
Pete, Middletown, NJ, USA
sarah palin was fantastic - she won hands down. more so she is young and hungry, biden has lost that eye of the tiger. he looked sombre and unpassionate. if nesessary i think think she would make a fantastic president, and would fight terror till the end.
janet, south carolina,
Biden clearly won this debate. Sarah's self-proclaimed 5 weeks experience was evident in her question dodging. You betcha!
Jeff, Sacramento, CA, USA
The "may I call you Joe?" line was a reference to the prior presidential debate, in which Obama referred to Senator McCain as John for the first half of the debate only to switch to Senator McCain when it became awkward, because McCain persisted in referring to him as Senator Obama.
Dan Collins, Monkton, VT, USA
On the contrary, Palin's looks will win her votes. She would not be popular were she ugly.
Kazuki, Tokyo, Japan
Governor Palin won. Biden expected a walk, but was run over wit, knowledge and class.
Ray, Liberty Hill,
She's pretty!!!!!! but prety dont win votes-its subtance
sammy dayal patel, king williams town, south africa
This was clearly a win for Palin. Biden could only lose. She was fresh and new he was the same old Washington double speak you get from almost every politician. Hafl truths and stretchs. I thought she did a nice job using his own past statements about Obama's lack of experience against him.
Steve, Kentucky, USA
I cannot believe that people believe Sarah Palin won the debate. Ok, there was no clear cut winner and neither Palin or Biden committed any major faux pas. But if you look closely debate, Biden's answers were more to the point whereas Palin sidestepped many and parrotted a prepared statement.
Jack Bauer, NY,
What's with Palin's blinking? How about less blinking and cutesy talk. This is America's future at stake. Not a beauty pageant. Get serious and give real answers. Biden won in every measure.
T-Rod, Columbia, USA
Thank you. How refreshing. A balanced insightful article. Sarah Palin won. Joe Biden did well. If it wasnt for the perilous state of the American economy and the fear that that will invoke, then one could imagine that a McCain/Pailn ticket could very well win. Well done Sarah Palin.
Robert Wilson, Auckland, New Zealand
Palin is pretty, folksy and may resonate with ordinary US folk. But these r NOT reasons to vote 4 her. Clearly out of her depth, shows little substance, limited political knowledge, sometimes barely articulate. If she is voted in it is a sad reflection on US society.
TD, Dublin, Ireland
JB trounced her for knowledge of the issues and a coherent strategy going forward. SP had no answers other than the scripted replies, she had nothing but, 'I'm a good ol' American mom'. There's nothing wrong with that, if she had substance, but she doesn't and you need so much more to move forward.
Jim, London, UK
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I have just seen the debate, for the people that say SP won is the reason the USA and the world economy is were it is right now. why did she (SP) not have a come back on how the JM government will defer from the Bush one. anyone with half baked intelligence will knows that the USA needs CHANGE.
oliver tengende, Madrid, Spain
Its obvious....Palin and McCain! Great job, Sarah!
Charity, Deerfield, USA
In times of crisis, people want a leader they can trust. On that basis, Palin won the debate in a landslide. She connected. Biden scowled.
Alan, Atlanta, Ga
Palin lost so badly it's impossible to measure the extent of her defeat. She dodged nearly all the questions put to her because she's too ignorant to provide serious answers. So she hopped around the stage like a drunken bunny reciting folksy but irrelevant sound bites. McCain has disgraced America.
Richard Bennett, Livermore, USA
Oh, please. Governor Palin was vague and evasive and repeatedly failed to answer questions. Folksiness gets old; gravitas matters. She is a lightweight championing failed policies that make the US a meaner and more isolated country. Biden won; Palin lost. It's time for adults to lead us again.
John Ludy, Fremont, USA
Governor Palin clearnly won the debate, and she did it with "style and class." She has the beauty of a Queen Rania, the poise of Ronald Reagan, and the conviction of Mother Theresa. She will be THE reason McCain-Palin ticket wins. What an answer to prayer!
Jeff Burnsed, Jacksonville, USA
There is no way you can say Sarah Palin won simply because she did not stumble her way through the debate. If Joe Biden gave her performance anyone would easily say he lost. Joe listed all the facts, connected with the people, and showed that he has the ability to be a leader. SP didnt- Biden wins
Patrick, State College, USA
Sarah Palin won...and won big! I've seen anything like this in American politics..since Ronald Reagan..."Palin Fever!"
tony fox, Atlantic beach, USA
Last week, the conventional wisdom was that Obama was the victor for matching up evenly with a more experienced McCain. Since then the rules have changed. Now Palin, having come off of dreadful performances in the news, keeps pace with her opponent, and it is still called a loss. Funny that.
Kyle, Long Beach, USC
Joe Biden was fantastic tonite. He didn't miss a beat. He is credible and well versed in the issues. Palin was shaky, side stepped a few questions and didn't come accross as honest or believable. I felt like I was listening to a commercial when she spoke. Biden won the debate by miles.
Kay, Lindenhurst, USA
Sarah Palin was the clear winner here.
Glynn, Shelby, USA
This article is wrong - Palin won. It's not that Biden did poorly, it's just that she did better. Couple that with the low expectation of her, and it was a blowout.
Robert, Dayton, Ohio, USA
Palin was awesome! There is no doubt in my mind; this woman will be President one day. And I say this as someone who voted for Clinton twice and am a registred Democrat.
Carol, Pittsburgh, PA, USA
Nice article. I will say that Biden certainly did stick to the questions more closely than did Palin, but there were some statements that he made in regards to McCain's record that were just incorrect. However, I will say that both candidates had imperfections and overall Palin did take the debate.
Levi, Raleigh, USA
Sarah Palin won the debate by holding her own with poise and confidence. The strength and quiet joy she showed tonight are remarkable in light of the attacks she has endured. As governor of Alaska, she has demonstrated her ability to bring about change. Obama and Biden only talk about it.
Judi English, San Clemente, USA
On any objective viewing of the debate JB clearly won. He seemed in command of the facts and the issues & adressed the questions asked. SP used the questions to launch into a series of well rehearsed speeches. She was better than expected & appealing in a way but expectations aside she surely lost.
Cameron, Melbourne, Australia
Sarah Palin deserves tremendous credit. Three of the four candidates in this race have been debating off and on for a year and a half. All of them performed quite well in their latest round. Palin was entirely out of the loop until about a month ago. Yet her performance was mostly equal, and in some
KSM, Williamsburg, USA
Sorry Mr. Baker, but Sarah Palin won it, not old Joe Biden.
ann, Seattle, USA
Not only should Governor Palin step down as the Republican presidential nominee, Senator McCain should go ahead and endorse Senator Obama for president. It is really a sad comment on America when this ticket will receive maybe 30% of the vote this November.
Timmy Coffee, Memphis, TN, USA