Rod Liddle
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ANYBODY know where I might be able to find a cauldron of intensity? They need one at Old Trafford, apparently. Along with a frying pan of fervour and a bain-marie of passion. They once had all of this assorted kitchenware but somehow, over the years, it has disappeared. You’d think, with all their money, Manchester United would be able to buy several cauldrons of considerable intensity, but it seems that there are some things which money can’t buy.
Sir Alex Ferguson, speaking after United’s game against Birmingham, which they were fortunate to win one-nil, expressed his desire for such a cauldron having been dismayed by the apparent indifference of the Old Trafford fans. “The crowd were dead. It was like a funeral out there,” he commented. I don’t suppose he meant literally dead. Only at the Emirates are they literally dead.
Ferguson effectively blamed the fans for Manchester United’s laboured performance against a typically obdurate but journeyman Birmingham City, insisting that the players had needed their help. One answer, I suppose, would be to pay the supporters a similar amount of money to that doled out to Ronaldo, Rooney et al. It seems to me a bit much to expect fans to shell out half of their weekly wage for a day at Old Trafford and then devolve to them the task of beating the opposition, this being beyond the abilities of the millionaire players.
“The crowd have come to be entertained,” said Sir Alex, disparagingly. Have they? Well, what selfish bastards they all are. One United supporter, fuming after Sir Alex’s attack, suggested that the manager should pay the players less and reduce ticket prices, so that fans could have more money to spend on alcohol before the game and thus feel less inhibited when inside the ground. It’s a nice conceit – but the problem is, as a consequence, Manchester United would be reduced to buying the sorts of players who turned out for Birmingham City and the crowd would dwindle very rapidly indeed.
That’s the other side of the problem: a fairly large proportion of those people who support Manchester United (and Chelsea and Arsenal) do so not because they have any great communal or familial loyalty for the clubs, but out of an infantile desire to acquire vicarious success, to bask in reflected glory. Even the intimation of failure will therefore send them fleeing. Do you remember that midweek Champions League game between Chelsea and Rosenborg, right at the end of The Special One’s tenure? The silent, deserted, stands and a gate which you might expect to see when Middlesbrough play Reading. And this for a Champions League fixture. The Chelsea fans had been disincentivised, it seemed, not by decades of failure and heartache, but by one rather dour home draw with Blackburn Rovers.
Watching Chelsea draw is not what they pay money for. Watching Manchester United struggle to overcome Birmingham City is not what a lot of those Old Trafford supporters paid their money for, either. They pay for guaranteed, preordained success in every game. Not all of them, obviously – I know plenty of old-school Chelsea fans who yearn for these arriviste supporters to clear off and if that means Chelsea finishing 15th for a couple of years, so be it. Then the old atmosphere would return. But the extraordinary wealth of our three or four top clubs is not built on the money of the loyal, lifelong, week-in, week-out supporters. It’s built on the new lot, in their replica shirts, who travel up from Barnstaple or down from Alnwick twice a season and for the rest of the time watch their team on Sky+.
But there are other mitigating factors. It is difficult to stoke up the fires beneath that old cauldron of intensity if there’s a bunch of uniformed stewards prowling the aisles telling you to shut up and sit down every time you feel moved to urge your side forward. Sitting down is itself an inhibiting factor, of course. So is sitting down next to someone called Giles or Cosmo who spends half his time on a mobile phone and rings ahead to order his drinks during the interval.
Football has traded in quite a lot for its vast sacks of moolah; it’s soul, for example, some might argue. In order to make football attractive to these new supporters – who, if we’re honest, don’t really like football very much – everything which militates in favour of pride and passion has been squeezed from the game. Next to be squeezed from the game will be a bunch of lower league clubs.
There are plenty of places where the cauldron of intensity still exists. We still have a sort of cauldron of intensity down at The Den; in fairness, I suppose it’s more an egg poacher of intensity, or a George Foreman Grill of intensity. Quite intense, though, especially when there’s a reliable hate figure in the opposition lineup, such as Lee Hughes. We suffer overzealous stewards and all-seat stadiums too – but we have not yet been poisoned by the arrival of hordes of people who wish to acquire vicarious success (because vicarious success is not really on offer).
If those Manchester United fans are still seething at the broadside from Sir Alex Ferguson, they could have done worse than boycott yesterday’s fixture and wander up the road to see the local derby between Accrington Stanley and Chester City – both decent, honest clubs where the players earn about the same amount of money as the fans and the ticket prices would have allowed them to get as drunk as they liked. Just a thought.

Rod Liddle is the most controversial commentator on sport in the British media. Previously the editor of BBC Radio 4’s Today programme and now a columnist with The Spectator, he brings an often outrageous and always provocative fan's view to The Sunday Times every week
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Fred, Liverpool,
haha funny! NOT!
Fred, Liverpool,
Come down to Elland Rd, we'll sing some songs for you!
simmo, leeds,
being afan of martin samuels i am sorry to see your chief football correspondent has a shaky grasp of 70s football. whilst I agree with his opinion on the current lack of depth
of quality available to Mr Capello, when was Colin Todd ever a right back? could you tell me when such a talented central defender ever played in that position?
Nick Evans, Bristol, North somerset
"Non-toffs" at football matches ? Oiks having to sneak into games because they can't afford the ticket prices ? What is the soccer world coming to ? Is this a new phenomenon equivalent to footie-stowaways ?
Sounds like the peasants are revolting. But, then, they always were !
Dr. Jimmy, Nottingham, England
Well, the problem is that the fans HAVE decided in their tens of thousands not to renew their season tickets and have decided to go elsewhere on a Saturday. What you propose as a solution has actually already happened and is the cause of the lack of atmosphere. United used to have cheap tickets. That changed with the arrival of the Glazers.
Jim C., Brussels,
Where is your evidence regarding the demographics of Man Utd crowds ? Have you ever sat in the North Stand with non-toffs like me ? Why is it that Portsmouth (the press darlings for best crowd noise) have virtually identical ticket preices to Utd. Where is your evidence for the "class" of any crowd ? Unless the 55,000 season ticket holders have changed in the last 10 years which I doubt, then the day trippers have 5,600 seats available - get your facts right
brian kay, manchester, uk
Declan, think you shot yourself in the foot old boy? Or are you yet another of the "exiled Mancunians" whose dad used to live in Urmston?
As for Accrington, four of us had a great day out there when they were in the Conference. £12 admission, probably higher now, cheap beer, end-to-end football, and chat to the players afterwards in the lounge. We were also asked if we were potential investors in the club!
Perhaps try Eastwood Town?
Dave, Manchester,
Declan, you've pretty much made Rod's point about out-of-town glory-hunting supporters when you talk of the Theatre of Dreams - a marketing slogan that no self-respecting Manchester United fan EVER uses.
But Rod's wrong about saying they could just go up the road to another match instead. Football fans don't go to matches to watch a game of football (they could sit at home and do that on TV). They go to matches to support a club.
Steve, Manchester, UK
Accrington Stanley and Chester City â both decent, honest clubs who play Sunday morning football.
Come off it Liddle.If you want the best then you pay for it.The Manager was simply reminding the supporters how lucky they are to have tickets to the Theatre of Dreams and so can watch the BEST team in the land.And he has every right to do so as distinct from armchair critics like you.
declan forde, Eastwood, Notts.
"both decent, honest clubs where the players earn about the same amount of money as the fans "
And, you might add, players the fans can empathise with. There's no doubting that the multi-national premier leaque sides are marvelous footballing entities; but where's the sense of connection? In the days when Newcastle was a team of geordies and Spurs predominently cockneys ect, the fans had a sense of connection. Little scouses on the Kop could dream of the day they'd be out there playing with their hero's. I wonder how many do that now? Sadly all the fans are cheering on these days is a coloured shirt: without the shirt and the teams are indistinguishable.
Patrick Turner, Orpington, UK
lee hughes got a bit of stick, one bloke wont be going to the den again,like many before him justshouting bad language or abuse at players opposing fans, you find yourself banned for life, i often wonder how many people go to the den to see or hear this, are you one? why are you not banned?
MATTHEW WEST, yateley, hampshire