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Shane Warne’s list of the top 50 cricketers he has played with or against – revealed in The Times on Saturday – has provoked strong reaction around the world. While there was delight in the Indian media that Sachin Tendulkar was nominated at No 1, irritation was expressed in the Australian press that none of their players made the top three.
Much of the Australian media preferred to concentrate on Steve Waugh’s exclusion from the top 25 rather than the fact that five Australians had finished in the top ten. “Shane Warne has snubbed all his former team-mates in naming the top three players of his era,” Will Swanton wrote in The Sydney Morning Herald.
“Warne’s list is notable for the lowly positions of two of the all-time greats. Legendary former Australia captain, Steve Waugh, is languishing at No 26, while Adam Gilchrist, widely regarded as the greatest wicketkeeper-batsman of all time, is No 20.”
Darren Lehmann’s surprise nomination ahead of Waugh at No 25 was singled out for comment. “Warne did not always see eye-to-eye with either Waugh or Gilchrist,” Swanton wrote.
“He struggled to comprehend Waugh sacking him for Stuart MacGill in the West Indies in 1999, and coveted the captaincy Waugh received after the retirement of Mark Taylor. He once described Gilchrist as too much of a ‘Richie Cunningham’ to be Test skipper, in reference to Gilchrist’s goody-two-shoes image. It was no compliment.”
Ravi Shastri, the former India captain, believes that it is a singular honour that an Indian has been rated so highly by the game’s greatest spinner. “This is from one legend to another,” Shastri, who featured at No 42, said, “and should stop all speculation about Tendulkar’s class.”
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No doubt about the selection of the greatest player.
But any one think that Tim may is better than Waqar Younis??
Certainly i dont think so...
Darren lehman in the list..??
if he is in he shud be behind vengsarkar
And we wud have seen Vinod kambli in the list,had he concentrated on his cricket...
Sreekanth Nair
Bangalore,india
sreekanth nair, Bangalore, India
No doubt about the selection of the greatest player.
But any one think that Tim may is better than Waqar Younis??
Certainly i dont think so...
Darren lehman in the list..??
if he is in he shud be behind vengsarkar
And we wud have seen Vinod kambli in the list,had he concentrated on his cricket...
sreekanth nair, Bangalore, India
Gilchrist is by far the best 'keeper of all time. Just look at his dismissal rate which is much better than everyone else. His stumping rate off Warne is also considerably better than Healy. You don't pick a batsman on style or a bowler on a beautiful action. These elitists who justify a ranking of 'keepers on "glovework" are simply missing the point. Bowlers take wickets, batsmen score runs and 'keepers catch and stump as many as possible. Healy and Gilchrist kept to a similar bowling lineup with Gilchrist picking up 25% more chances which makes him 25% better. The fact that he could bat in the top 6 is an added bonus.
Prashanth is right on the money.
As for Steve Waugh. Like Gilchrist, his record speaks for itself. Everyone else in the world would rank Steve Waugh much higher than Tubby and Mark Waugh, not to denigrate either in any way.
brett jobson, sydney, australia
I was slightly surprised that one or two of West Indian 70's quicks eg Malcolm marshall/Patterson etc were not featured...
Simon , Manchester,
How can Javed Miandad, one of the all-time great cricketers, who has played against Warne be missing from this list altogether. I feel this is a very biased list from Warney.
CricketBuff, Toronto,
Warne's misranking of Steve Waugh made his subsequent listings impossible to take seriously. By allowing personal rivalry to cloud his judgement he largely invalidated what should have been a worthwhile list. It was rather like a football journalist from Sunderland saying Alan Shearer was pretty lame, simply because he's a Geordie.
Mark Lewis, London,
I think Shane did a good job with the 50. It is always hard to come up with a 50 without critics. However, I do think that he should have them classified under different categories (batsmen, allrounders, pace, spin, wicket keeper etc) and give weight to the player stats and the competition they played against. I don't understand Dilip Vengsarkar on this list and no Sunil Gavaskar. Does any one remember Gavaskar's record in West Indies against arguably the best pace attack we have ever seen?
Rajeev Sajja, Philadelphia, PA/USA
This is a personal list. If you ask me Adam Gilchrist is the best cricketer (in terms of value to a team) over the last 25 years. Australia had a batsman with an average of more than 50 and a strike rate of more than 80 coming in at no. 7 in test matches. Nothing can beat that advantage. And Gilchrist gave it to them.
prashanth, chennai, India
Anyone selecting the top 50 or "X" number of cricketers is always going to have their critics. If Steve Waugh an Adam Gilchrist had been included in the top three, then there would be some readers who would say that Warnie is biased in favor of Aussies.
I think Warne has done a wonderful job.
There is no gainsaying the fact that most of his choices were great cricketers. The exact ranking of those who made the list of 50, and the fact that some players had to be omitted is always a matter of opinion -- an honest assessment rather than bias.
Rajan , Knoxville, Tennessee, USA
Despite being an Indian and being extremely delighted that an Australian and more importantly a cricketing legend has put an Indian at the top, I still do feel that Steve Waugh and Adam Gilchrist should have been very much within the top 10-15. But to be fair to Shane, Steve did not build the mighty Aussie team but rather added on to the fine work of Allan Border and Mark Taylor. And Ian Healy is definitely quite a few notches up on wicket keeping skills than Adam and infact IMHO even slightly better than Rod Marsh.
Somnath DasGupta, Muscat, Sultanate of Oman