Patrick Kidd
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When I was a rather pathetic geek of a teenager, I used to pass the time during advanced mathematics AS level classes, which I had somehow fluked my way into, by developing a system of calculator cricket, using the random-number generator button. Immense charts were drawn up to reckon the probability of dot-balls, run outs, even the odds of bad weather intervening. It used to take about one hour of advanced maths to play 90 overs so during the course of a term, several Test or first-class series could be completed and that meant conjuring teams to take on each other while I was pretending to be solving quadratic equations.
What started with a straightforward Australia v England series morphed into Schoolmasters v Religious Leaders, Members of the Cabinet v Famous Belgians, People Called John v Greek Orators. And so on. Drawing up an XI was almost as much fun as playing out the series. I got a D in my exams, but would like to think that the calculator cricket proved of greater benefit in the long run.
So when the Sports Editor of The Times came up with the idea of his staff conjuring their favourite county XIs, an end-of-season academic exercise to engage all our readers who like county cricket and are just as geeky as the writers, I leapt at the chance. Given more than a century of Essex cricket from which to draw the greatest team to have worn the badge was a fascinating exercise. It enabled me to find out more about the county I fell in love with when I first saw Graham Gooch captaining the side at Castle Park, Colchester.
The shocking thing, once I started trawling the averages, was how few of Essex's finest players have come from the sides I have watched, the sides, after all, that enjoyed the only success in the county's history. We won the championship for the first time less than 30 years ago, yet were producing giants of the game for decades beforehand, which was somehow reassuring. As I read my colleague's own choices, I found that while some of them had whole XIs of world-famous names their records were not all that much better than my Essex anonymoses. We had Jack Russell, for instance. Not the Gloucestershire keeper, but an opening batsman in the 1920s who played only ten Tests yet hit five hundreds. He deserves his place in history every bit as much as a Hobbs, a Fry or a Hutton.
The mission was to pick an XI for each county to take on Mars, which hardly seems fair. Club v Country is one thing, Club v Whole Planet quite another. But maybe Mars has yet to develop a top-class cricket side. For all I know, they may have the cricketing skill of Burkina Faso. At least they should give Derbyshire a good game. The matches are to be played at home (preferably during a dry season) and over four days. Usual lunch and tea breaks apply, I presume. The only stipulation was that these players must have turned out at least 20 times for their respective counties.
Naturally, these are wholly subjective sides, based on instinct as much as science. Some writers preferred overseas players, others ran away from them; some wanted to pick only those they had seen, others saw this as a chance to do some historical research. Comparing players over a long period of time is always contentious and we are bound to have left out some excellent players. If you think we have got it wrong, let us know.
As well as the greatest teams, we were asked to name our favourite XIs. These are wholly for fun; I will accept no criticism for naming Don Topley in my favourite Essex XI. Anyone who disagrees clearly never saw him being chased across the outfield by a wild dog during an otherwise unremarkable championship match with Warwickshire. It is events such as that, as much as any five-fors and hundreds, that draw us all to this wonderful sport.
Next week, having digested every county XI listed here, Christopher Martin-Jenkins, The Times Chief Cricket Correspondent, will endeavour to select the finest county XI ever.
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Although Richard from Virginia makes a good case for Compton in preference to Hick and despite the obvious error in regard to Compton's haul of wickets in First Class cricket I still believe that Hick is the better choice. My choices were based mainly on First Class stats and in Hick's case he's an outstanding fielder (684 catches versus 416 in the same number of matches, 515) as well as useful bowler (note in Tests they both averaged around 56 1/2). Compton bowled 36,640 deliveries versus 20,889 which may have accounted for the better haul. Their first-class batting statistics based on the same number of innings are Hick 40,423 at 52.36 with Compton stroking 38,942 at 51.85. From an entertainment perspective Hick smacked 22 6's at Test versus a mere 3 for Compton (no records of First Class boundaries on CricInfo) and raked 134 hundred's versus 123. There's not much in it. Because he played for the gunners Compton would make a good 12th man for the XI!
Richard Hoblyn, Limoges, FRANCE
I think, clearly two things standout as the stinkiest.
1. Australian player behavior
2. BCCI's response to the crisis. I might also note that the response of the country (India) as a whole.
While enough is said about aussies. I really feel embarassed about my own countrymen burning effigies. As Indians you should know better, that the effogy burning is far more a serious offence than the racist offense. From what I read the 24 housr news channels are adding fuel to the fire. Unfortunately, in a lot of countries the honest way of making money or living has gone out of the window. As long as it is legal ,it is ok do any thing to gain personal/institutional advantage. May that is what is playing hard but fair. I hope everybody involved take a deep breath and concentrate on the beautiful game of cricket.
Narayan, san jose, CA
How can a county eleven leave out Phil Mead, of Hampshire. Just look up his record if you doubt me - he scored more runs for his county than ANY other batsman for theirs. A run machine.
Tony, Auckland, New Zealand
If Mr Hoblyn really wants to try and compare Graeme Hick with Denis Compton, he is not really doing Hick any favours. Hick himself would probably be embarrassed. Compton had a Test average of 50 even though six of his very best years were removed by World War Two while Hick averaged 31. But Mr Hoblyn suggests Hick has been included in his team partially because of his bowling. Even though he did spend some time on Arsenal's left wing, Compton still managed to take 622 first class wickets with his left arm Chinamen, including five wickets in an innings 19 times. He even achieved that feat once in a Test. Hick has taken 232 first class wickets, achieving a five wicket haul in an innings five times. But with Denis it was never about stats. He was far more interested in who won the 2.45 at Sandown than his own average. Hick is a lovely batsman to watch but Compton belonged to another world.
Richard Evans, Richmond, Va, USA
On the basis that Richard from Virginia must have seen Compton and others of that generation I assume that he is in agreement with those that I never saw, Messrs Fry, Hobbs, Hammond, Woolley, Rhodes & Tate. You must be very very old Richard. Hick is preferred for his bowling and superb slip catching and the many centuries he has produced in the modern era. Perhaps if Compton hadn't been playing soccer for Arsenal so much his bowling may have been better. Fortunately the team is skippered by the greatest sportsman of all time, a man who apparently didn't need to practice at anything.
Richard Hoblyn, Limoges, FRANCE
Hick before Denis Compton? Mr Hoblyn, PLEASE! You obviously never saw him bat. Hick is a very fine player but, given his suspect temperament, should never be mentioned in the same breath as Compton, Hutton, Cowdrey, May, Dexter, Gower, Gooch or numerous others who withstood the fierce examination of Test cricket.
Richard, Richmond, Va, USA
Despite his lack of success at international level you really must include Graeme Hick - a class act.
John, Glasgow,
More interesting might be to ask for an XI of county cricketers who never played at test level, but probably should have done.
Don Shepherd, Peter Lee and Peter Sainsbury spring to mind instantly - and what about John Langridge and Wilf Wooller?
Guy Fraser-Sampson, London,
Assuming longetivity and track record (so that excludes all overseas players) are the initial credentials and that Test records are excluded (granted important) here is my All Time County XI.
1. G Boycott
2. CB Fry (Captain*)
3. W Hammond
4. J Hobbs
5. G Hick
6. W Rhodes
7. FW Woolley
8. APE Knott
9. MW Tate
10. JA Snow
11. DL Underwood
This team could put on 400+ in any conditions and bowl any opposition out in those conditions for under 280.
Richard Hoblyn, Limoges, FRANCE
While modern cricketers may grace the top eleven I hope the great Wally Hammond (Gloucestershire) will be considered. Not just one of the finest batsman ever but a great gentleman of the game.
My grandfather umpired for his local village side and he always remembers with pride when Gloucester came to play one day. Wally´s treatment of everyone was only how great sportsman should be remembered.
Some day´s later, Wally wrote to the village cricket club to show his appreciation of a fine day. He praised the club as a whole and thanked them for a great day. He went on to say what a fine wicket they had as well as nice things about the umpire who called him out.
My grandfather tended to that ground as well as umpired. That letter made him look after the ground with pride until the day he physically just couldn´t anymore.
Great players don´t just win games and trophies they must win the respect of those people who understand and love the game.
Shaun, Brasilia, Brazil
Tremendous names and a very difficult assignment to pick the very best ever over a century or more , but, considering every name, I select the following :-
1 M Elliott (Glamorgan)
2 D Boon (Durham)
3 S Law (Essex)
4 M Waugh (Essex)
5 D Lehmann (Yorkshire) (capt)
6 M Love (Durham)
7 T Moody (Worcestershire) (& the gloves)
8 S Warne (Hampshire) (vc for life)
9 D Gillespie (Yorkshire) (could bat higher with double test ton)
10 G McKenzie (Leicestershire)
11 T Alderman (Kent)
12th - B Dooland (Nottinghamshire)
13th & sub fielder to catch R Ponting during a stint - P DeFreitas* (honourable mention given his seasons with Port Adelaide DCC & Albert Park South Australia indoor cricket side)
Others can only ever be rated against Chappelli's 1975 side so reluctantly, Gooch, Denness, Amiss, Fletcher, Cowdrey (although incredibly gutsy) must be dismissed (again!) while we must never ever speak of Botham!
Geoff, Adelaide, SA
How About a game Versus New South Wales.
NSW XI
A. Morris
V. Trumper
D. Bradman
Mark Waugh
K. Miller
S. McCabe
R. Benaud
A. Davidson
W. O'Reilly
R. Lindwall
Bert Oldfield
12th S. Waugh
I reckon NSW would win on most surfaces.
Ken Pierpz, Kariong, N.S.W.