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No manager who quotes Theodore Roosevelt (“The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood”) can be dismissed as blinkered or xenophobic, but Gareth Southgate has genuine concerns about the appointment of Fabio Capello as England head coach. Not with his personality or credentials, but with the concept.
His question is straightforward: “What is the point of international football?” His answer is similarly direct. “I feel it should be our players, our manager, our coach, our kit-man and our faith healer, against the best of the rest of the world,” Southgate said. “I don’t see the point of having a national team, with a national anthem and patriotism and a foreign coach. It might as well be club football.” Southgate’s opinions offer an important balance to the coverage of Capello’s arrival. They could not be more valid. He is a young English manager working at a club, Middlesbrough, whose academy specialises in nurturing local talent. He won 57 caps, is passionate about his country and eloquent about everything. He can also admit to changing his mind.
“When Sven-Göran Eriksson was appointed, my view was slightly different,” he said. “I thought that if a foreign manager can help us and if the right English person wasn’t available, then fine. But as I’ve got older, I see a different picture of things. You think to yourself, ‘What makes it different from the Champions League?’ Well, what makes it different is that you’re representing your country.
“No one from outside can have that same feeling. When I play for England, I would want an English manager. International football should be a reflection of your nation, whether England, Ireland or South Africa. If we haven’t got good enough coaches, we have to produce them, just as if we’d have to produce good enough players. We can’t bring in players from abroad, so we’ve got to develop.” Capello’s qualifications and record are not in doubt. “I’m sure we’ll be a better team, a more successful team, with Capello there,” Southgate said. “In terms of what he’s won and achieved, he’s more experienced and successful than the English managers around. Because of that and because we won’t know so much about him, he will have a head start and a longer honeymoon, but I just don’t think it should be about that.”
Just as Capello will not be permitted to select Cristiano Ronaldo or Cesc Fàbregas to sport the Three Lions, so the FA should have looked elsewhere, even to the detriment of England’s short-term prospects, Southgate believes. “In some ways, I find it strange that it’s allowed to happen by Fifa,” he said. “I find it slightly pointless. We may as well just have club football and let that be the end of it. Maybe that’s how it’ll be in the future.”
No criticism of the foreign influence in the Barclays Premier League is intended, quite the opposite. “What Arsène Wenger and José Mourinho have brought to us has been phenomenal and what we needed as a nation - the diet, fitness, coaching,” Southgate said. “There’s no one I respect more than Arsène because he’s embraced parts of English culture and a built a club based on English traditions and introduced all the foreign influences that have been positive to the game.”
Southgate concedes that the nationality of a head coach is a “minor” point in the grand scheme of the difficulties facing England and English football. “Does our league being awash with money breed players who are hungry to sacrifice everything to be at the top of their profession, or do we reward people too soon for doing too little?” he said. “Is our style of play suited to international football? Probably not, so you are asking players to forget everything they learn at the weekend when they go to a World Cup or European Championship.”
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Gareth, that's a wonderful ideal but the last time it even looked vaguely promising was when El Tel was The Man and idiocy wasn't a point of reference for England's national representatives. Were it not for the faith healer then maybe Glenda could have been allowed a decent opportunity to make a stab at turning our footballers into a world force. We have not had one English manager over the past decade who has even come close to replicating the success that Ferguson, Wenger, et al have enjoyed. To whom are we to turn? Harry Redknapp? Sam Allardyce? Alan Shearer? Let's look at things. Top English clubs want results and aren't willling to take on English managers. So why should the F.A., with its remit to take England " back to where they belong", do so either at this moment in time? When Ferguson leaves Manure, when Wenger leaves the Gooners, who will those chairmen and boards look to appointing? It won't be Big Sam or Happy Harry.
Chendu, Broadstairs, kent
No matter how clear Southgate is about it, a lot of people still manage to miss the point entirely. The point is not success at any cost, what is at stake is the meaning of international football with national teams playing against each other. It is not a question of how good a manager Capello is, it is a question of substance concerning the national team and why something like a national team even exists in the first place. In Southgate's view the point of international football should not be the same as the point of Champions League or Premier League football, the point of a national team is to represent the country. That means the national team manager should also be a representative of his own country. The ethos of a national team shouldn't be based on mercenary values like it is in this day and age. Southgate is absolutely right.
Trevor, London,
England have underperformed miserably since 1966, failing to achieve World Cup or European Cup success and failing to play as a cohesive side. Apart from Sven, all the other managers have been English. That would seem to indicate that they're not up to it.
So why not Capello? He's got a proven track record, he wins trophies and he's focused on results.
Provided the English side start winning again, I personally don't care if the FA name Britney Spears as manager!
Clive Britcher, Caracas, Venezuela
I doubt there are many people who would disagree with Southgate's view... but just which Englishman is there fit to manage England?
Quite.
If reports of Pearce and Shearer are correct, well, we're not getting any closer to a Englishh replacement. It's been said for weeks now, but let's see this root-and-branch review because appointing Capello (a good thing) only resolves the issue of the England team, but not necessarily the Academies and childrens' support that's needed.
Do we trust the FA to really fix our game?
PB, London, UK
Memo to Gareth......
Last time we tried "our players, our manager, our coach, our kit-man and our faith healer, against the best of the rest of the world" (and assuming that the faith healer comment is a joke), we lost at home to Croatia on a ploughed field and didn't make the Euros. Were you watching?
Why not concentrate on getting your team ready for life in the Championship Gareth?
J.Wilkes, Gloucester,
Gareths sentiments are admirable and he puts forward a strong argument that English fans will find hard to disagree with.
But the fans,including myself, have had enough of disapointments and downright appalling preformances from our national team.If Cappello brings us even a semblance of success and respectability in international football it should be welcomed.
Gareth is obviously an intelligent bloke,so he should be looking at Capello and challenging himself to attain Cappello's
achievements.Can he guide Middlesborough regulary to a top six place?Can he get them into semi final and finals ?Can he manage a big club and almost guarantee success like Benitez,Wenger,Ferguson and Mourinho?If so then we will have an English coach as England manager.
Right now English fans,after 40 years of non achievment,are not to proud to have a foreign coach.Look and learn Gareth,can you walk the walk,or is it just hot air?
chris dee, london,
How many foreign appointments has Southgate made in his team?
Pete, Hull,
If there was a single English manager with a track record of success at a top club I'd agree. But there isn't. And English players don't need an English manager to be motivated to play for their country.
Greg, Stanford, CA