Alyson Rudd
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Last night may have heralded a new era for English football, but it marked the beginning of the end for football’s ability to show respect for the dead. At Wembley the period of silence for victims of the Munich air disaster lasted only 27 seconds. At Croke Park, where Ireland were playing Brazil, the planned one-minute silence was cut short. In both instances the authorities decided that it was better to stop the period of reflection than to allow it to continue while a minority of supporters made inane noises.
The FA may argue that, as it had planned a period of silence as opposed to a defined full minute of silence, no insult was made to the dead. Unfortunately, this will not wash. We knew that the FA was worried about louts making noise. By cutting the silence rather than ignoring the yobs, it appears cowardly and easily manipulated.
There was a suggestion that the FA might show pictures of the men who lost their lives on the big screen or possibly opt for a minute’s applause, but this was greeted with undiluted horror. Clapping the death of young men cruelly cut down not so much in their prime but on the brink of greatness was seen as crass in the extreme.
At the heart of the debate was the point about who should care about Munich. If the derby match between Manchester United and Manchester City this weekend is to observe a minute’s silence adequately, there has to be a widespread belief that the tragedy does not belong to only one club. And if that is true, the deaths on that icy runway 50 years ago were also a national loss. And so the FA, worried about a drunken whistle or a stupid yodel, and probably against its better judgment, decided that it had no choice but to accept that Munich was not a parochial affair but a great loss for English football. The FA is English football and so it had to opt for silence.
I have stood for many periods of silence that fell on the short side, but none so short that I was embarrassed. Less than half a minute is more of an insult than a tribute. It takes 20 seconds to slow your heartbeat, to calm your breathing and reach a point where you are giving the dead some thought. Sometimes it takes a further 15 seconds for the fans standing next to the idiots who want to shout “come on In-ger-lund” to quieten them down. It is not ideal that there is usually at least one idiot in the stadium, but there is a satisfaction in shutting them up, thereby permitting a further 25 seconds in which to show your respect.
When did it become acceptable to give in to the yobs and turn the sympathy off? It is not enough for the FA to say a period of silence occurred. We have a culture of one minute (or longer), so common sense and common decency require that any period of silence lasts close to just under 60 seconds at the absolute minimum. Had the silence been impeccably observed, would the FA have allowed it to run for 86 seconds? Probably not; there were television commitments. So, the silence ended because the FA got scared. Scared of a handful of idiots. It will never shut them up now.
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Interesting that two of the "anti silence" comments are from Luton and London.
Wonder if they'd feel the same if they had - like me - been a 12 year old Mancchester resident on hearing the news.
Jimmy, Sydney, Australia
Why the surprise?The low intellectual level of our football "heroes" is reflected in the moronic standards of many of their fans
c adams, quimper, france
What happened 50 years ago at Munich on February 6 was a devastating and tragic accident; a football catastrophe.
Not only was the public of Manchester and England heartbroken and confused by the inconceivable deaths of men like the towering Duncan Edwards, but so too were communities in Ireland, Scotland and Wales.
Some 20,000 mourners attended the funeral of Liam âBillyâ Whelan in Dublin, Busby was Scottish, and his assistant Jimmy Murphy shouldâve been on the plane but he had to manage Wales in a World Cup qualifier.
The minuteâs silence was strictly observed by 70,000 fans at Croke Park in Dublin for Irelandâs game against Brazil, except for the small gathering of Samba fans, who were not informed in Portuguese of the silent tribute.
At least Liam Whelanâs family was not present to suffer as a result of the FAIâs incompetence.
sean murphy, Dublin, Ireland
was in Munich 06/02/08.Am a red with me was ,City ,Munich,Derry,Forrest,Arsenal,etc respect to them all.
redlad77, middleton, manchester
I was watching on TV and there were no audible sounds that I could detect.. The referee blew the whistle to end the silence at Wembley. How did the FA signal to him so why gie them the blame. Personally I would rather have had applause - if it was good enough for Diana ....... There used to be one silence every year or so but I do think there are too many now Perhaps familiarity breeds contempt.
David Challinger, Preston,
If it's that irrelevant why do you feel the need to comment on it, just to say that it's unimportant to you? Don't remember it if you don't want to and respect the feelings of people who do.
Penn, London,
It's kind of funny how we talk about the 'kids' having no respect nowadays. I don't really care who feels this occasion of rememberance is not relevant to them or their football team (or whatever). Let's just get this straight, 50 years ago, Britain was a different place, we were still recovering from WW2, football was our release. There was no segregation then. We honour the memories of those whose impact was so significant within British football. Make no mistake, this was a tragedy. I realise that people are not trying to dishonour those who passed when they make their comments but, well, it's 60 seconds of reflection..... 1 minute. I am a 35 year old Manchester United fan. I'm not going to insults people's intelligence but I have to ask...... When we can't stay silent for 1 minute (even if we feel the occasion doesn't apply to us), to reflect on the loss of 23 lives, what does that say about us and our society? This is 2008, I'm ashamed at the lot of the 'spoilers'.
Edgar Samuel, Tenjin, China
With reference to the comments below, how is it inappropriate to hold a minutes silence at a football match to mark the the death of footballers in a tragic accident.
How is 60 seconds silence in 50 years 'relentless', out of 'scale' or a 'manipulation of our emotions'.
Jon, Manchester
Jon , Manchester,
I can't believe the ignorant comments on this page being displayed. One minute of peoples time is all that is being asked. Why is this such a big deal to some people - i have no idea. The biggest mistake people make concerning this disaster is that they only think it concerns Manchester United and the city of Manchester. It doesn't, England was robbed of great players that would of lead the country into a decade of fantastic football. Also, in Duncan Edwards, England had a player comparable to anyone in History! Respect was everything 50 years ago, people would do well to remember that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ryan, London,
There is something distasteful about the drive for a national remembrance of the Munich air crash. The city of Manchester and its two football clubs should certainly mark the day. The national media however should leave the rest of us out of it. This is not about being anti Manchester United, as some journalists would have it. It is simply a refusal to accept both the clubs and the medias manipulation of our emotions.
With the relentless hype, souvenir mentality, and over-romanticizing of this tragedy Manchester in its mawkishness is proving itself to be the original âself pity cityâ.
Paul S, Merseyside, UK
I cannot see that the silence was at all appropriate, anyway. The world is awash with disasters, many on a vastly larger scale. This was a smallish air crash that happens to involve a small number of footballers.
I am over fifty years old, but only three years old at the time of the crash. I expect the country to remember the great wars this far on, but the Munich air crash? With the greatest of respect for the families and friends of those who perished, the scale of this rememberance is a nonsense.
Paul G, Luton,
I totally agree with Alyson, that it HAS to be a full one minutes silence at least. There should be respect shown by everyone for those who lost their lives and what respective nations lost when disasters like Munich happened.
No doubt a few people might of had a drink before the game at Wembley, but I agree that these people would be 'hushed up' by fellow supporters. This involves the culture of football and so everyone who does not respect the footballing dead should do some reading on what the history of football actually is.
I condemn the FA for cutting the minutes silence, after all how many more occasions will we have again to show our respect 50 years after Munich? none.
Hursh, Cambridge,
The question here is not whether it is right to ignore the minute's silence, but whether there should have been a minute's silence at all.
This event happened 50 years ago. It is of significance to Manchester United, but sport is all about the present. I was a month or two old when the crash occurred, and now I am one of the older spectators at my club. We do not have days of remembrance for Diana, or Jock Stein, or David Rocastle. It is surely now time for this media-led self-indulgent piece of navel-gazing to stop.
jimmy, london, uj