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May 29, 2007
The Times Premiership rankings - every player from one to 403
The brain boxes at the Fink Tank have applied a mathematical model to produce the definitive guide to the best and worst players in the Premiership. The work is beyond reproach - but not debate. Have your say below
The nation's top ten players - no arguments
Five of the best and worst players
Key -
Ranking: Rating out of the 403 players in our list
Player name: Each player must have appeared for at least 400 minutes to qualify
Position: Predominant position on the pitch
Pitch time: How long they spent on the pitch over the season, expressed as a percentage
Points: The number of points the player would have added to an average team over the season, compared with an average replacement
Manchester United
1 Cristiano Ronaldo M 85.12% 19.12
6 Paul Scholes M 79.10% 13.50
8 Nemanja Vidic D 66.11% 10.48
11 Rio Ferdinand D 90.28% 9.37
12 Wayne Rooney F 87.13% 9.20
29 Louis Saha F 50.31% 6.55
30 Edwin van der Sar G 85.99% 6.48
53 Michael Carrick M 75.00% 4.63
59 Ryan Giggs M 70.37% 4.20
63 Darren Fletcher M 38.46% 3.92
86 Park Ji Sung M 23.83% 2.85
91 Patrice Evra D 55.68% 2.69
93 Mikaël Silvestre D 18.70% 2.48
102 Ole Gunnar Solskjaer F 22.81% 2.27
112 John O’Shea D 47.53% 1.79
133 Wes Brown D 43.83% 1.38
169 Gary Neville D 61.08% 0.30
178 Gabriel Heinze D 41.60% -0.03
198 Henrik Larsson F 14.20% -0.49
212 Kieran Richardson M 18.43% -0.75
Chelsea
2 Frank Lampard M 97.31% 16.24
4 Petr Cech G 50.15% 14.41
15 Ricardo Carvalho D 81.45% 8.52
16 Michael Essien M 88.89% 8.50
19 Didier Drogba F 88.09% 8.14
23 John Terry D 68.95% 7.78
45 Salomon Kalou F 54.41% 5.06
65 Michael Ballack M 62.19% 3.84
73 Andriy Shevchenko F 55.80% 3.47
79 Ashley Cole D 57.07% 3.18
100 John Obi Mikel M 25.49% 2.31
117 Claude Makelele M 67.62% 1.71
127 Arjen Robben F 41.64% 1.51
129 Khalid Boulahrouz D 22.47% 1.43
142 Carlo Cudicini G 19.26% 1.20
149 Shaun Wright-Phillips M 33.40% 0.97
188 Wayne Bridge D 42.22% -0.27
195 Lassana Diarra M 14.48% -0.45
205 Paulo Ferreira D 47.16% -0.62
276 Hilário G 30.56% -2.06
290 Gérémi M 35.74% -2.47
Liverpool
17 José Manuel Reina G 94.56% 8.47
31 Dirk Kuyt F 74.74% 6.47
41 Sami Hyypia D 61.02% 5.33
43 Xabi Alonso M 78.98% 5.11
61 Craig Bellamy F 57.57% 4.10
67 Jamie Carragher D 86.85% 3.73
75 Daniel Agger D 62.22% 3.34
80 Steven Gerrard M 89.85% 3.12
96 Peter Crouch F 45.44% 2.39
103 Luis GarcÍa M 30.03% 2.24
113 Steve Finnan D 84.05% 1.77
121 Robbie Fowler F 15.29% 1.63
138 Boudewijn Zenden M 22.70% 1.28
144 Fabio Aurélio D 30.48% 1.16
145 John Arne Riise M 74.44% 1.16
153 Mohamed Sissoko M 36.79% 0.83
166 Stephen Warnock D 31.26% 0.38
173 Álvaro Arbeloa D 19.31% 0.17
192 Javier Mascherano M 22.88% -0.39
193 Jermaine Pennant M 59.10% -0.41
249 Mark González D 36.49% -1.52
Arsenal
3 Gilberto Silva M 88.14% 16.01
5 Jens Lehmann G 97.30% 13.94
10 Alexander Hleb M 68.14% 9.87
13 Cesc Fábregas M 92.88% 9.19
36 Kolo Touré D 91.89% 5.73
38 William Gallas D 56.49% 5.63
39 Thierry Henry F 44.29% 5.48
44 Johan Djourou D 43.51% 5.07
47 Robin van Persie F 43.84% 5.01
48 Emmanuel Adebayor F 59.64% 4.90
51 Júlio Baptista F 31.35% 4.71
57 Gaël Clichy D 67.84% 4.26
97 Tomas Rosicky M 55.20% 2.39
104 Abou Diaby M 19.61% 2.15
110 Emmanuel Eboué D 59.22% 1.93
120 Justin Hoyte D 42.49% 1.66
128 Mathieu Flamini M 28.77% 1.44
150 Philippe Senderos D 21.50% 0.96
203 Theo Walcott F 19.28% -0.58
218 Fredrik Ljungberg M 36.07% -0.86
Tottenham Hotspur
18 Robbie Keane F 47.53% 8.19
22 Dimitar Berbatov F 78.27% 7.97
28 Jermaine Jenas M 63.98% 6.63
49 Michael Dawson D 95.77% 4.89
50 Calum Davenport D 38.24% 4.86
54 Jermain Defoe F 56.57% 4.61
60 Ledley King D 52.50% 4.13
66 Aaron Lennon M 55.93% 3.80
92 Hossam Ghaly M 42.19% 2.67
106 Ricardo Rocha D 23.64% 2.11
114 Danny Murphy M 17.84% 1.76
137 Steed Malbranque M 47.78% 1.31
148 Teemu Tainio M 40.74% 1.06
171 Pascal Chimbonda D 84.85% 0.26
189 Edgar Davids M 15.86% -0.28
196 Benoît Assou-Ekotto D 43.06% -0.46
221 Lee Young Pyo D 54.51% -0.96
233 Tom Huddlestone D 46.45% -1.24
258 Didier Zokora M 65.62% -1.69
292 Mido F 20.06% -2.57
402 Paul Robinson G 100% -12.03
Everton
7 Tim Howard G 94.59% 12.96
25 Mikel Arteta M 91.50% 7.08
70 Joleon Lescott D 96.91% 3.61
72 Alan Stubbs D 57.30% 3.47
85 Joseph Yobo D 100% 2.86
152 Andrew Johnson F 81.59% 0.89
179 Manuel Fernandes M 37.03% -0.04
223 James McFadden F 22.88% -1.05
230 Gary Naysmith D 28.41% -1.14
231 Nuno Valente D 26.88% -1.19
238 Simon Davies M 67.78% -1.31
244 Victor Anichebe F 18.41% -1.40
259 Tim Cahill M 42.34% -1.70
269 Leon Osman M 81.65% -1.97
295 James Vaughan F 17.45% -2.65
300 Tony Hibbert D 27.72% -2.81
339 Lee Carsley M 98.74% -4.11
369 James Beattie F 43.48% -5.87
397 Phil Neville D 90.78% -11.15
Bolton Wanderers
64 Abdoulaye Meïté D 91.23% 3.92
134 Abdoulaye Faye M 73.00% 1.38
146 Nicolas Anelka F 89.16% 1.15
170 Idan Tal M 14.23% 0.27
242 Ricardo Vaz Té F 18.11% -1.38
265 David Thompson M 21.74% -1.87
267 Andranik Teymourian M 24.62% -1.90
283 Henrik Pedersen F 27.60% -2.31
288 Gary Speed M 96.40% -2.43
301 Stelios Giannakopoulos M 27.93% -2.83
348 Iván Campo M 82.52% -4.79
355 Ricardo Gardner D 34.32% -5.07
366 Tal Ben Haim D 77.96% -5.57
375 Kevin Nolan M 78.20% -6.43
383 Jussi Jaaskelainen G 100% -7.44
398 Nicky Hunt D 78.98% -11.29
399 El-Hadji Diouf F 80.72% -11.59
403 Kevin Davies F 73.24% -14.08
Reading
26 Marcus Hahnemann G 98.65% 7.07
34 Ivar Ingimarsson D 100% 6.14
68 Ibrahima Sonko D 57.93% 3.69
84 Steve Sidwell M 92.91% 2.95
151 Michael Duberry D 17.57% 0.95
160 Leroy Lita F 59.34% 0.54
167 John Oster M 24.53% 0.36
177 André Bikey D 24.86% -0.01
191 Kevin Doyle F 71.41% -0.38
237 Ulises De La Cruz D 19.79% -1.31
246 Shane Long F 22.52% -1.47
254 Glen Little M 47.99% -1.63
256 Bobby Convey M 18.53% -1.63
270 Dave Kitson F 24.08% -1.97
289 Brynjar Gunnarsson M 31.89% -2.46
302 Stephen Hunt M 71.02% -2.86
365 James Harper M 93.48% -5.53
367 Seol Ki Hyeon M 52.07% -5.67
390 Graeme Murty D 59.58% -9.68
396 Nicky Shorey D 97.30% -11.14
Portsmouth
20 Linvoy Primus D 91.74% 8.08
24 Kanu F 79.28% 7.67
55 Sol Campbell D 86.49% 4.50
62 Niko Kranjcar M 35.71% 3.93
74 Benjamin Mwaruwari F 59.85% 3.43
82 David James G 100% 3.07
119 Andrew Cole F 20.09% 1.68
122 Lomana LuaLua F 27.03% 1.60
176 Noé Pamarot D 51.62% 0.13
179 Manuel Fernandes M 37.03% -0.04
194 Djimi Traoré D 45.53% -0.42
250 Pedro Mendes M 61.86% -1.54
265 David Thompson M 21.74% -1.87
277 Richard Hughes M 28.83% -2.11
284 Lauren D 24.02% -2.31
285 Dejan Stefanovic D 51.17% -2.36
316 Sean Davis M 73.03% -3.20
353 Glen Johnson D 65.05% -4.85
362 Matthew Taylor D 80.69% -5.42
377 Gary O’Neil M 90.60% -6.61
Blackburn Rovers
9 Benni McCarthy F 88.98% 9.91
14 Brad Friedel G 98.61% 9.06
27 Shabani Nonda F 45.93% 6.99
81 Ryan Nelsen D 27.78% 3.11
95 Christopher Samba D 29.51% 2.44
99 Jason Roberts F 28.92% 2.33
126 Matt Derbyshire F 22.87% 1.52
131 André Ooijer D 52.90% 1.38
163 Zurab Khizanishvili D 48.40% 0.48
185 Stéphane Henchoz D 25.52% -0.19
200 Tugay Kerimoglu M 63.49% -0.53
206 Andy Todd D 18.83% -0.64
235 Brett Emerton M 84.88% -1.27
287 David Dunn M 17.59% -2.37
321 Lucas Neill D 80.56% -3.33
327 Michael Gray D 26.73% -3.46
340 Aaron Mokoena D 46.79% -4.24
343 Robbie Savage M 56.82% -4.36
368 Morten Gamst Pedersen M 90.37% -5.76
401 David Bentley F 89.35% -11.82
Aston Villa
32 Thomas Sorensen G 75.05% 6.40
89 Martin Laursen D 28.92% 2.75
90 Gary Cahill D 52.37% 2.70
105 Liam Ridgewell D 52.97% 2.13
108 Patrik Berger M 14.56% 2.07
118 Stiliyan Petrov M 79.10% 1.70
123 Gareth Barry D 90.96% 1.60
164 Luke Moore F 18.62% 0.39
199 John Carew F 24.53% -0.50
224 Olof Mellberg D 98.62% -1.06
226 Gabriel Agbonlahor F 97.24% -1.11
227 Craig Gardner M 26.49% -1.12
234 Isaiah Osbourne M 19.37% -1.24
268 Chris Sutton F 17.75% -1.91
272 Milan Baros F 26.22% -2.02
275 Steven Davis M 49.01% -2.05
296 Juan Pablo Ángel F 45.02% -2.70
310 Gavin McCann M 72.70% -2.99
315 Aaron Hughes D 36.07% -3.08
333 Phil Bardsley D 34.41% -3.72
341 Wilfred Bouma D 57.00% -4.26
386 Ashley Young F 80.78% -8.01
Middlesbrough
33 Mark Viduka F 59.85% 6.29
56 Yakubu Ayegbeni F 94.50% 4.27
71 Emanuel Pogatetz D 87.48% 3.55
83 Robert Huth D 23.87% 3.05
98 James Morrison M 45.05% 2.37
109 Jonathan Woodgate D 75.32% 1.95
116 Abel Xavier D 37.75% 1.73
147 Julio Arca M 43.54% 1.12
157 Mark Schwarzer G 94.56% 0.65
158 Fábio Rochemback M 43.60% 0.60
190 Chris Riggott D 14.62% -0.31
243 Jason Euell F 23.78% -1.39
303 George Boateng M 88.83% -2.87
317 Stuart Parnaby M 25.62% -3.24
346 Lee Cattermole M 59.01% -4.78
360 Stewart Downing M 88.53% -5.25
363 Andrew Davies D 54.38% -5.45
384 Andrew Taylor D 89.07% -7.60
Newcastle United
35 Obafemi Martins F 85.14% 6.00
46 Kieron Dyer M 48.02% 5.03
115 Shola Ameobi F 20.84% 1.73
139 Steven Taylor D 68.92% 1.28
159 Oguchi Onyewu D 21.38% 0.54
168 Antoine Sibierski M 43.57% 0.34
175 Damien Duff M 51.95% 0.16
183 Craig Moore D 42.28% -0.17
197 Emre Belözoglu M 54.77% -0.49
208 Peter Ramage D 48.56% -0.68
215 Scott Parker M 72.82% -0.79
228 James Milner M 77.81% -1.12
239 Paul Huntington D 27.06% -1.32
248 Charles N’Zogbia M 33.66% -1.50
261 Steve Harper G 43.24% -1.73
262 Celestine Babayaro D 31.08% -1.73
264 Shay Given G 53.96% -1.87
297 Titus Bramble D 44.89% -2.73
318 Nolberto Solano M 61.80% -3.27
352 Stephen Carr D 59.04% -4.84 358
Nicky Butt M 67.03% -5.20
Manchester City
21 Sylvain Distin D 97.27% 8.03
88 Richard Dunne D 99.97% 2.82
111 DaMarcus Beasley M 28.47% 1.82
156 Georgios Samaras F 50.69% 0.68
165 Michael Johnson M 24.32% 0.38
201 Claudio Reyna M 28.83% -0.55
207 Emile Mpenza F 22.10% -0.66
209 Nedum Onuoha D 36.76% -0.72
211 Micah Richards D 70.45% -0.74
219 Bernardo Corradi F 47.48% -0.92
240 Stephen Jordan D 28.53% -1.34
252 Michael Ball D 32.28% -1.60
274 Dietmar Hamann M 27.66% -2.05
278 Paul Dickov F 24.50% -2.14
298 Ousmane Dabo M 26.37% -2.78
304 Joey Barton M 89.04% -2.87
308 Nicky Weaver G 64.59% -2.95
311 Sun Jihai D 27.30% -3.01
313 Hatem Trabelsi M 41.14% -3.04
323 Stephen Ireland M 37.48% -3.36
334 Trevor Sinclair M 38.68% -3.73
337 Andreas Isaksson G 32.67% -4.05 350
Ben Thatcher D 53.42% -4.82
356 Darius Vassell F 74.29% -5.10
West Ham United
42 Bobby Zamora F 63.00% 5.25
50 Calum Davenport D 38.24% 4.86
77 Anton Ferdinand D 76.97% 3.22
87 Carlos Tévez F 48.62% 2.85
124 James Collins D 38.20% 1.56
135 Daniel Gabbidon D 46.76% 1.36
136 Yossi Benayoun M 65.59% 1.35
172 Mark Noble M 22.46% 0.24
186 Hayden Mullins M 61.86% -0.21
187 Teddy Sheringham F 18.20% -0.23
217 Christian Dailly D 29.73% -0.84
232 Robert Green G 67.57% -1.24
247 George McCartney D 42.67% -1.48
257 Carlton Cole F 16.10% -1.67
260 Nigel Quashie M 18.32% -1.72
293 LuÍs Boa Morte F 53.45% -2.61
306 Lee Bowyer M 43.15% -2.90
321 Lucas Neill D 80.56% -3.33
325 Roy Carroll G 32.43% -3.39
326 Marlon Harewood F 51.74% -3.44
370 Jonathan Spector D 51.65% -5.92
373 Nigel Reo-Coker M 90.06% -6.27
379 Paul Konchesky D 59.04% -6.67
389 Matthew Etherington M 60.81% -8.64
Fulham
40 Carlos Bocanegra D 67.18% 5.38
76 Ian Pearce D 55.29% 3.25
140 Claus Jensen M 27.42% 1.26
143 Zat Knight D 58.26% 1.18
154 Philippe Christanval D 49.43% 0.74
180 Alexei Smertin M 16.01% -0.07
184 Papa Bouba Diop M 51.17% -0.18
245 Collins John F 26.46% -1.43
251 Wayne Routledge M 42.43% -1.55
293 LuÍs Boa Morte F 53.45% -2.61
328 Heidar Helguson F 42.04% -3.48
329 Jan Lastuvka G 19.76% -3.51
331 Moritz Volz D 58.56% -3.54
238 Simon Davies M 67.78% -1.31
344 Antti Niemi G 80.21% -4.42
354 Franck Queudrue D 74.32% -5.05
372 Tomasz Radzinski M 64.59% -6.09
374 Brian McBride F 84.68% -6.33
376 Michael Brown M 88.14% -6.44
385 Liam Rosenior D 99.31% -7.63
Wigan Athletic
107 Henri Camara F 48.47% 2.09
141 Matt Jackson D 45.89% 1.20
155 Arjan de Zeeuw D 52.10% 0.69
222 Gary Teale M 16.16% -0.97
236 David Wright D 20.30% -1.30
281 Caleb Folan F 20.36% -2.30
286 Fitz Hall D 54.74% -2.37
291 Ryan Taylor D 32.07% -2.56
299 Luis Antonio Valencia M 38.53% -2.78
305 Denny Landzaat M 73.48% -2.89
309 Paul Scharner M 58.89% -2.95
312 David Cotterill F 19.25% -3.02
320 David Unsworth D 28.83% -3.33
322 Emile Heskey F 78.38% -3.33
332 Emmerson Boyce D 88.08% -3.65
336 Chris Kirkland G 68.92% -4.05
338 John Filan G 27.03% -4.06
345 Josip Skoko M 62.76% -4.57
349 Lee McCulloch F 67.30% -4.81
378 Kevin Kilbane M 70.84% -6.67
393 Leighton Baines D 90.87% -9.85
Sheffield United
69 Chris Morgan D 58.29% 3.62
78 Claude Davis D 44.56% 3.21
101 Colin Kazim-Richards M 43.96% 2.30
125 Jonathan Stead F 29.25% 1.54
130 Phil Jagielka M 99.97% 1.39
132 Chris Lucketti D 19.88% 1.38
181 Danny Webber F 33.33% -0.09
210 Christian Nadé F 26.01% -0.73
214 Steve Kabba F 21.89% -0.77
216 Leigh Bromby D 34.14% -0.83
229 Alan Quinn M 29.10% -1.13
241 Stephen Quinn M 34.65% -1.37
266 Robert Hulse F 73.69% -1.89
320 David Unsworth D 28.83% -3.33
330 Michael Tonge M 57.66% -3.52
342 Mikele Leigertwood M 42.40% -4.33
351 Robert Kozluk D 44.68% -4.82
357 Derek Geary D 63.96% -5.18
371 Nick Montgomery M 57.39% -5.93
380 Keith Gillespie M 68.83% -6.69
381 Paddy Kenny G 88.35% -7.16
387 Chris Armstrong D 66.37% -8.25
Charlton Athletic
37 Souleymane Diawara D 49.52% 5.64
52 Darren Bent F 83.36% 4.67
58 Talal El Karkouri D 97.27% 4.26
174 Hermann Hreidarsson D 75.11% 0.16
182 Jonathan Fortune D 19.25% -0.13
194 Djimi Traoré D 45.53% -0.42
202 Andy Reid M 36.19% -0.58
204 Zheng Zhi M 22.49% -0.60
213 Jerome Thomas M 40.90% -0.77
225 Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink F 32.85% -1.07
253 Amdy Faye M 62.67% -1.62
255 Darren Ambrose M 51.05% -1.63
273 Bryan Hughes M 43.27% -2.03
279 Dennis Rommedahl M 52.73% -2.26
280 Osei Sankofa D 22.52% -2.27
282 Matt Holland M 70.63% -2.30
294 Radostin Kishishev M 19.52% -2.63
307 Scott Carson G 97.30% -2.93
324 Alexandre Song M 28.62% -3.36
350 Ben Thatcher D 53.42% -4.82
361 Marcus Bent F 44.53% -5.34
382 Luke Young D 75.02% -7.16
Watford
94 Danny Shittu D 67.72% 2.45
161 Tamas Priskin F 22.70% 0.53
162 Marlon King F 30.93% 0.51
214 Steve Kabba F 21.89% -0.77
220 Malky Mackay D 35.44% -0.93
263 Jay DeMerit D 82.76% -1.77
271 James Chambers D 20.57% -1.97
314 Damien Francis M 73.75% -3.06
319 Richard Lee G 25.68% -3.30
335 Chris Powell D 25.74% -3.80
347 Adrian Mariappa D 44.05% -4.78
359 Lloyd Doyley D 45.98% -5.22
364 Alhassan Bangura M 29.76% -5.52
386 Ashley Young F 80.78% -8.01
388 Jordan Stewart M 77.81% -8.46
391 Ben Foster G 74.32% -9.77
392 Hameur Bouazza F 70.81% -9.81
394 Darius Henderson F 64.89% -9.87
395 Gavin Mahon M 88.23% -10.58
400 Tommy Smith F 75.68% -11.77
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bentley 3rd WORST PLAYER and being called up to the england squad ...ummm... that makes sense and MG ped 368 a 2 yr old could make a better list than that
sham, blackburn, england
Hey, just to point out- Anyone watching Spurs for the past eighteen months would probably agree that he is worth a lot more than twelve points dropped.
An average goalie would have spurs in the CL the past two years. The rest of it is baloney, though.
Daz, Mayo, Ireland
John Terry at 23? Wow, thats a bit incorrect. I can agree with Ferdinand being at 11, but John Terry should be around the top 10. Yay for Lampard at 2, he deserves that one. And Petr Cech is incredible, earning his #4 spot. But why is Matt Taylor so low in the rankings?
Kayla, Woodstock, Georgia, USA
who do u think u are putting STEVEN GERRARD 80th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
he is arguably the BEST player in ENGLAND, if not in the top 5. he puts in a massive work rate, last year he scored 20+ goals from midfield in the premiership, he sets up ATLEAST 45 goals a season, he can play anywhere, and i mean ANYWHERE, EVERY team in the WORLD would be honoured to have him grace their team(even the mancs), and you put him behind the likes of chris morgan, ian pearce, sonko who are to be frank mediocre players compared to STEVEN GERRARD, but most players are mediocre to STEVEN GERRARD.
also STEVEN GERRARD PRACTICALLY ON HIS OWN, along with JOHN TERRY carry ENGLAND on their shoulders and somehow lead them to a win against a team, that argentina, brazil, germany, holland would of trounced 4,5,6-0.
ahad, LONDON,UK,
Trevez at 87?
He was the sole reason West Ham stayed in the Premiership last season. Played out of position or mis managed for most of the time until "liberated" in the final weeks.
No matter how you construct it a set of formula can never account for that or inspiration or motivation to fellow players.
Football is not just yards covered or passes completed, unmeasureables such as team confidence, luck or even a slip play there part in games. As any watching fan will know
Jim, Milton Keynes, England
A nice idea, but fundamentally flawed because the goalkeepers rating is largely dependent in football on the quality of his defence - how did they incorporate this into the model? That's right, They didn't.
Paul Moar'deeb, LONDON, UK
Brian McBride 2nd-to-last for Fulham? hmm methinks this system is flawed.
michael, Downtown Coolsville, Republic of Awesome
How can you say Matthew Taylor has had such a low influence on the team....302nd????/he was one of the best right backs this season asnd scored some spectacular goals and was a major influence for portsmout
Bob Wills, London,
that is rubbish. according to that david bentley has been Blackburns worst player this season. When he won blackburns player of the year. also its got him down as a forward when he has been playing on rovers right wind all season. There is probably alot more wrong with that garbage there aswell.
chris, lanc, england
There is no way on Gods green football pitch that Butt and Milner had a worse season than Ramage, N'zogbia and Gooch. Ask any Newacstle fan and they will tell you.
Lies, damn lies and statistics indeed
Phillip Osborne, Newcastle, UK
You must think you're very clever, coming up with this pseudoscience. In the first place, most of the things in football are difficult to quantify. So is a players overall importance to a team. If you apply the same method to the Spanish league, I'm sure you will come to the same incopngruous conclusions about some of the best players on the planet. A Ronaldinho or a Gerrard can stroll on the pitch for 89 minutes and make a difference in a minute. That's genius, not to be compared a plodding dude like Lmapard. For instance, have you ever tried to count the number of tricks C. Ronaldo uses and compare that those by Ronaldinho. This can easily be done with the first but I doubt whether Ronaldinho himself knows how many he has. And what's more it may be impossible because he appears to be creating them as a situation arises.
Simply put, it is rubbish.
Zerihun, Washington, D.C.,
from a west ham supporter,according to this load of utter garbage there are 186 worse players in the premier league than Christian Dailly yea right,and also Richard Green is a bigger liabillaty to have on the pitch than Dailly,did any of you boffins happen to see the West Ham v Arsenal and Man Utd games!!!??? nuff said!!
John , romford,
I like how the third best teams best where 17, 31 and 41. And their third best was Hyppia a third choice center back who made limited apperances is unimportant games.
Think you guys got a problem.
Michael Hermon, Salt Lake City, UT
football is not math, it's magic!
Petter, Hamar,
total rubbish, joey barton 304th, nonsense
how much money does fink make on his weekly tuppenny yankee??
jim o'toole, bucks,
Just look at Givens position... This program is a disaster. Luke Moore better than Agbonlahor..? Gamst Pedersen in the bottom..? These guys must think football is math. It`s not.
Erlend, Mel, Norway
ridiculous, Gamst is probably the best player in his team. Why would Manchester United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs want him if he was second worse in Blackburn?
Pål, Florø, Norway
The 'Fink Tank' is a method adopted in an attempt to rank players this season-a fair idea. However, it must be flawed as how on earth can Ibrahima Sonko be said to have had a better season than Steven Gerrard? Nicky Shorey cannot be said to be Readings worse player-he's now starting for England due to his excellent debut season in the Premiership, and lastly David Bentley was Blackburn's player of the season and a real contender to fill England's right side of midfield, so again how is he Blackburns worse player? This demands a real explanation, or it should be scraped and subsequent 'Fink Tanks' should be firmly discouraged.
Tom Burrows, Oxford, Oxfordshire
How in the world can you mean that Solskjær is better than Gamst Pedersen? Solskjær has almost not played on Man U and that gotta have a reason! Gamst Pedersen playes brilliant for Blackburn, and is probably in a better club next season! It's also other things that I disagree with!
Anneli, Halden, Norway
Well they say statistics don't lie, and they probably don't. But who is to say that these statistics mean anything more than the normal ones?
Statistics and football generally fail, that's why it's such a beautiful game. Football isn't about how good your stats are, it's how you play. A brilliant player could play "smartly" and be punished for that with this system (at least that's how it looks like).
Even though I agree with the "top player" on many of the team, there are certain areas I scoff over...
As a Norwegian I must say I do not agree with your rating of Morten Gamst Pedersen at all. He was in fact one of the better players this season.
Also I would like to add that to rate all the Premier League players by one system is impossible. The vast variety that's needed based on the team and the position will forever be the biggest obstacle for a universal system.
Canabary, Trondheim, Norway
Just confirms what we were all thinking - Calum Davenport should be in the England squad ahad of Carragher, and Shabani Nonda is one of the best strikers in the premiershp ;-)
Tom, London,
England has quite a problem if their best keeper is the second best of all those in this statistic...
tor, ås, norway
I always new David Bently, Paul Robinson. Nicky Shorey and Ashley Young were rubbish. You can't argue with statistics.
keiron Dunn, Huddersfield, England
It shows there is far more to football than statistics. Using pompey, Benji was more important to us than James this season? And the idea that Matt Taylor is 363rd and Gary O'Neill is 377th is just laughable. Every team has glaring errors, Gerrard being the 80th best player in the premiership being one of the more amusing. Maybe Pompey should sign him to stop the likes of Bellamy and Agger having to carry him through Liverpools performances...
Richard, Finchley,
Darren Fletcher- 63rd?
Is he really better than Scott Carson, Tevez, Johnson, Gerrard, Carragher, Bouzza etc.?
Berbatov worse than Hleb, Silva, Fabregas? Please.
Eboue worse than Talal El Karkouri? Give me a break.
Hawks El Hancho, Cape Town, South Africa
Contentious rubbish - ask Liam Rosenior and Brain Mc Bride for their thoughts along with any other Fulham fan.
Richard Swain, Kingston, England
You have obviously tweaked the results to make Ronaldo the top. You should have stuck to the system which made Gilberto Silva top, those results would be interesting.
Thelma, Ascot,
What rubbish is this? Ben Foster at 391, Tal Ben Haim at 366? Three of England's likely defence on Friday (Robinson, Neville and Shorey) in the bottom 10? HOw does that get on the Times?
Graeme, London,
Steven Gerrard 80th? Paul Robinson 402nd? Jason Euell more valuable than Stewart Downing? One word - nonsense!
Andy, Reading, England
According to this 'Fink Tnk' Kevin Davies is the worst player (out of 403) to play in the premiership this year; or is it the least effective!
Has the statto/statto's behind this ever even played football let alone watched any Bolton match in full at an actual stadium this year as he is one of the most effective players in the Premiership and crucial to Bolton and central to their UEFA cup qualification this year.
England keeper Paul Robinson is the second worst at 402 is he?
Blackburn's player of the year David Bentley is the third worst aswell I now see!
Glad I only started looking at this from the perspective of worst first as it has saved me time reading all of it!
Lies, damned lies & statistics!
Tangerine Dreamer, Blackpool, Lancashire Riviera
Your results will certainly generate a lot of debate, but there's something fishy about your Poisson model! Goalkeeper points seem distributed at extremes, largely influenced by their clubs' "success". And too many key players are ranked much lower than their performances merit relative to their teammates: e.g. Song at Charlton; Bouazza at Watford; McBride at Fulham. Along with keepers such as Carson, Foster and Kenny, these players contributed more than their colleagues in largely struggling teams yet get no credit for their efforts, goals, saves etc. I appreciate that your point is to "prove" that the stats reveal objectivity, but you must question results that put Shorey at 396 and Bentley at 401 while Samaras resides at a respectable 156 after a nightmare season. Even Arsenal supporters wouldn't rank Hleb at 10! Surely Robinson suffers mainly because of Spurs' dismal defensive record? Interesting, too, that Liverpool's ratings are much worse than the "Big Three". Opta anyone?
Bernie O'Brien, Gloucester, Glos
Quality.
Andrew, Memphis,
For gods sake. Hleb in front of one of arsenals best players of the season, clichy.
harry, london,
Helb top 2.5 % palyer in the league??? What a joke!
13 Arsenal players in the top 100 but 22 points behind Man U.
Arsenal sponsored statistics!
Joker, Southampton,
Agree, look at Ben Foster, 291st, yet without him Watford would have had the lowest points total of any team EVER in the history of the top division.
Sean K, Chesapeake, VA, USA,
Rating David Bentley at 401 is complete baloney, as in this sense he is being regarded as a foward, and not what he actually is, a midfield player.
Adam, Isle of Wight,
I think the player rankings produced by Finktank only serve to show that the system needs a lot more work. Some of the results are ridiculous.
I would be interested to know how accurate Finktank predictions were last season.
Chris Connell, Liverpool, UK
Love this. on total rankings (adding all a teams players together) Arsenal have the lowest score (low = better) and on average ranking Arsenal have the highest rank !! I knew we should have won the league this year !! Also used the percent total playing time played to see whether Chelsea had real injury problems . . yes but not as bad as the Gunners. Only 6 Arsenal players played over 60% of the time compared to 8 for Chelsea. (I did look at other percentage combinations. 75% bth Arsenal and Chelsea had 4 players and over 50% Arsenal had 10 and Chelsea 11. So Arsenal - no arguments the hardest hit by injury and no arguments - the best ranked players - I demand MU give us the trophy! Jay Jay, Oxford
Jay Jay, Oxford, UK
Not sure this has worked. Nice idea though. Looks like another attempt at using a mathematic equation on something subjective has failed. The most shining example is Tevez. Would his replacement by an "average" player only have lost the Hammers 3 points? That would be some average player!
Rob, Hobart, Tasmania
What the hell are you guys on? David bentley the third worst in the premirship? get real hes been one of the best midfielders in the premirship. you dont get called up the the england squad by being the third worse.
you lot should try watching some football then i gues the table woyuld change a little.
what were you think when you claimed that gray and henchez were better than bentley and pedersen
Dom , cumbria,
Love this, on total rankings (adding all a team's players rankings together) Arsenal have the lowest score (where low = better) and on average ranking Arsenal have the highest rank !! I knew we should have won the league this year !! Also used the percent total playing time played stats to see whether Chelsea had real injury problems . . yes but not as bad as the Gunners. Only 6 Arsenal players played over 60% of the time compared to 8 for Chelsea. (I did look at other percentage combinations. over 75% both Arsenal and Chelsea had 4 players and over 50% Arsenal had 10 and Chelsea 11. So Arsenal - no arguments - the hardest hit by injury and no arguments - the best ranked players - I demand MU give us the trophy!
Jay Jay, Oxford, UK
Darren Fletcher! 63??? You are joking! Would the people who made these stats please put the drugs away! Fletcher better than Gerrard? He is probably the worst player ever to wear the Man U shirt. He wouldn't even get in the Yeovil Town team! He consistently gets caught in possession, rarely passes it forward and rarely makes a meaningful pass. He takes the sting out of any attack he is involved in because it takes him so long to get the ball under control and find a pass. He actually changes the whole balance, shape and pace of Man U. I have seen games where Paul Scholes has turned in the opposite direction to avoid passing to him. I would say that had Fletcher not played against Milan and Chelsea Man U would have beaten them both - he weakened Man U to such a degree that they were made susceptible to defeat. He so obviously sticks out as an amateur that people even think he is Fergie's illegitimate child. How can a player who has such a detrimental effect on a team be the 63rd best.
Matthew Shaw, London,
Amen to that, starbug. Amen.
Jes, London,
the actim index is a lot more informative and seems to rank players on more appropriate categories.
Devang, Sydey,
Whatever credibility the Finktank may have had before has gone completely out of the window.
Bill Boaden, Ramsbottom, Lancs
James Milner 228th and Shola Ameobi 115th.... Shola has been out for much of the season and Milner has been pretty much Newcastle's player of the season. Looks like another set of useless statistics.
John Kankalil, Newcastle, UK
Worst three players;
3rd: David Bentley, young talented winger in the England squad.
2nd: Paul Robinson, England goalkeeper. Poor season (and a half) but seriously... 400 better players than him?
1st: Kevin Davies, the pivotal player at Bolton - their Drogba.
I've seen some poor stats but these go beyond a joke.
There are lies, damned lies and statistics and these are damned lying statistics of the very worst kind.
Ken, Leeds,
As a Charlton fan who believes that we deserved to go down I am stunned not to see many of our players ranked lower. Equally, how does Scott Carson, by a mile our best player of last season whithout whom we probably would have been down in February, end up ranked 307? I would have expected him (and only him out of our wretched bag of players) to have been in the top 50 or so.
On the same note, how does Paul Robinson come out at 402? OK he didn't have a great season by his standards but he was far from being the worst player in the Spurs team let alone the Premiership. The fact that the Spurs defence shipped a load of goals was for most part not his fault.
This table is deeply flawed beyond the top 20 to 30 players.
Mark Summers, Sevenoaks, UK
What a load of tripe, I can tell You without fear of contadiction that You won't find any Newcastle fans Who would put Nobby Solano third bottom and Nicky Butt bottom,
Paul Soulsby, Gateshead,
pathetic. how can davenport (west ham) be higher than tevez (west ham's savious)?? he's played next to no games, spent his half season at the club injured and had no influence over the club, however, he's 27 places higher than tevez...hmmm...
Mike Brown, London,
Lies, dam lies, and statistics e.g..
Callum Davenport = 50.
Steven Gerrard=80
Paul Robinson= 402
Neither Gerrard nor Robinson have had (by their standards,) the best of seasons,but really !
Mike, Dunstable, England
Seems to get the top players right and the worst (lowest ranked) players quite wrong (on the whole) thanks to the % played factor.
Haz, Clifton, UK
Just looked at your top 403.
Is Paul Robinson the worst goalkeeper in the premiership?
Somebody should tell Steve McClaren.
Reg Matthews, London, England
the most stupid list, or piece of analysis i have ever seen. Just look at some of the people ranked at the bottom... David Bentley & MG Pederson, Matt Taylor & Gary O'Neil, Nicky Shorey, Kevin Davies...
Matt, Weybridge,
Bentley the third worst player in the league. Ur kidding me right?!?
Ben, Leicester, England
a more meaningless bunch of stats I'm yet to find.
starbug, Reading, England