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The Premier League could write to Uefa to request that football’s European governing body considers moving the venue for the Champions League final in advance of the prospect of an all-English showdown, The Times understands.
Manchester United will join Liverpool and Chelsea in the last four of the competition should they see off the challenge of AS Roma in their quarter-final, second leg at Old Trafford this evening.
There are fears that an all-English final, particularly one that thrusts together Liverpool and United in Moscow on May 21, could be marred by serious crowd violence.
It is an almost identical situation to last season when Liverpool and Chelsea were paired in one semi-final and United and AC Milan in the other. United’s 3-2 defeat by Milan in the second leg at the San Siro averted the mouth-watering but daunting prospect of a final against Liverpool in Athens, but the Premier League are thought to be keen to guard against such a possibility arising this season.
Uefa dismissed as a non-starter the possibility of switching last season’s final from Athens to Wembley in the event of Liverpool or Chelsea and United reaching the final, but that would not necessarily prevent the Premier League from making a similar request this time around.
It is believed that the Premier League could recommend the game be played at a neutral venue in England, with Wembley the obvious candidate, or at a stadium in Scotland, such as Hampden Park or Ibrox.
The Premier League are mindful that Moscow has been planning and preparing for the Champions League final for many months and that to change the venue at the eleventh hour - however unlikely - would cost the Russian capital millions in revenue and also set a dangerous precedent, but there are genuine fears that European football’s showpiece occasion could be blighted by violence, especially if United and Liverpool, arguably English football’s fiercest rivals, are paired together.
Uefa, nonetheless, are likely to give short shrift to such an idea, and point to the 2000 final between Real Madrid and Valencia, the Spanish clubs, in Paris and the all-Italian encounter between Milan and Juventus at Old Trafford, both of which passed off peacefully, as evidence that trouble is far from guaranteed and that Moscow could successfully welcome 100,000 English supporters.
Uefa would almost certainly seek talks with British police to deal with the anticipated logistical nightmare should the final be an all-English affair.
There was widespread relief among the police forces of Merseyside and Greater Manchester Police (GMP) that a United-Liverpool final was avoided last season and they will undoubtedly like to see such a scenario averted again this term.
One senior police figure at GMP told The Times that a United-Liverpool final would represent “the worst scenario imaginable” and both forces would almost certainly welcome a venue change.
Aside from the obvious threat of trouble in Moscow, there would be concerns about flight arrangements to and from the Russian capital, with fans of both clubs just as liable to travel from Manchester and Liverpool airports.
The potential problem of masses of rival fans descending on Moscow en masse, feasibly on unsegregated planes, would just be one of several other issues to resolve.
Although relations between United and Liverpool at a boardroom level were strained over the Gabriel Heinze transfer saga last summer, Rick Parry, the Liverpool chief executive, and David Gill, his United counterpart, are on good terms and, like the police, would doubtless back any attempts by the Premier League to have the venue switched.
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Whilst Moscow undoubtedly has facilities to host this the logistics for fans/teams present anightmare scenario. As expats living In Moscow we can only sympathize with the travel costs and administrative nightmare they will now face, coupled with a very different appraoch to policing the event itself
Jennifer, Moscow, Russia
As a Man utd season ticket holder who has travelled away in Europe this season I have been dreaming of getting to the European Cup Final. It is however, gradually turning in to a nightmare. How are we all going to get visas, travel there or be able to stay without going bankrupt.? If we do end up playing Liverpool it will be hell in a city where nobody will understand what is going on between the two sets of supporters.
How could UEFA have thought of holding the final in Moscow? The teams were only ever going to come from Western Europe. What a carbon footprint !!!!
maria gilmour, sale,
If lots of crowd violence is expected why would we want it to be held in this country? Let them fight in Moscow!
Martin Red, Southampton,
An all English final at Wembley would be a lot more sensible and cost-effective. The cost to each of the fans of the English teams will be less and the waste of fuel and air travel a lot less. The environment should be taken into account where possible.
A proportion of the gate money should go to Moscow in compensation.
Given that there was almost no chance of a Russian team in the final, the choice of Moscow as a venue was daft at the outset. But sporting bodies such as Uefa are not known for their bright thinking - or their green credentials.
Lester May, London NW1, UK
None of this is an issue, the Russian embassy in London normally manages to issue a couple of hundred visas a day maximum. Each club gets about 20,000 tickets. So it will probably take about 200 days to issue enough visas for both sets of fans. Given the wonderful warm diplomatic relationship at the moment, you really think the Russians will work hard to issue these visas?
Danny Eldridge, Man Utd, based in Moscow
Danny, Moscow, Russia
too hard fifa's board given any chance to replace spot for final;definitilly better what the final game comes in europe than in russia,however is a very difficult who the board hearing to claim about chances.
Hilson M.Breckenfeld Filho, recife, brasil/pernambuco
Exclusive!! The Premier League might write a letter to somebody, perhaps, the Times understands.
Not exactly Woodward and Bernstein, is it?
Evan Thornton, Ottawa , Canada