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The best player in the country on current form would like it to be known that he has no objection to England fans saying “Frank Lampard’s crap”, as long as they do it on their way out of Wembley, rather than risk undermining collective morale during the game. The days when Chelsea’s free-scoring midfielder was abused as “Fat Frank” by a highly vocal minority of England’s home support would appear to be over after four successive wins in the World Cup qualifying campaign but the damage is too recent to be forgotten. Fortunately, there is unlikely to be a repetition any time soon, with Lampard, at 30, playing better than ever.
Our interview, after lunch on Friday, was delayed while he accepted various awards, including the Barclays statuette that goes to the Premier League’s player of the month. A few introductory facts for fans newly arrived from Mars. Lampard, an England international since 1999, has averaged 20 goals a season for Chelsea for the past four years and is well on the way to doing so again. In 2005 he was the domestic Footballer of the Year and runner-up to Ronaldinho for World Player of the Year - an award for which he has just been short-listed again. Last summer, when he was courted by Internazionale, he signed a five-year contract, making him the highest paid player in the country, one he expects to keep him at Stamford Bridge for the rest of his career. A man, then, of some substance, whatever his critics may say.
He preferred to start in Chelsea mode, discussing recent “hiccups” against Liverpool [0-1], Roma [1-3] and the midweek elimination from the Carling Cup, on penalties, by unfancied Burnley. It must have been a major blow to lose that long unbeaten home record to Liverpool? “The record didn’t bother me too much,” Lampard said. “Last season we drew a lot of games at home and we’d have been better off losing a couple and winning the others. The record was a good one but I’m quite pleased it has gone, in a way. It had to go some day, and it’s almost a monkey off our backs. If you win the league, you don’t care if you’re unbeaten at home or not.”
Lampard had made no secret of the fact that he was always a Jose Mourinho man. How close had he been to rejoining him in Milan? “Inter made a bid for me, and it was a possibility, for sure,” he said. “It was a very tough time for me, personally, after the death of my mum, and my head was in a spin in the summer. I didn’t really know what to do, and I felt it might suit me to get away and change my surroundings and my life. But when I came back preseason, I realised how much I loved this place and, through speaking to my family, I knew what I had to do. I’m sure now, 100%, that I made the right decision.”
Chelsea’s appointment of Luiz Felipe Scolari, in place of the unlamented Avram Grant, had influenced him. “I hadn’t signed before he [Scolari] came,” Lampard explained. “When I went away to think over my future, the club didn’t have a manager for a while and, when you’re looking to sign a five-year contract, obviously you care who is going to be in charge.” Mourinho and Scolari shared a common first language but were very different in make-up. “As blokes,” Lampard said, “Mourinho is the one who loves a row and is much the more emotional character - that’s what I love about him. If he was angry, he’d let you know. Ask any team of Mourinho’s and the players will tell you they love him, regardless of results or what anyone outside may think. I loved him, I loved working with him and I still have utmost respect for him. I don’t speak to him now but we still exchange occasional texts. Whereas Mourinho is really emotional, Scolari is more of a calm, composed talker.
“He’s a very good motivator, in the dressing room and in team meetings, and can be very passionate about what he wants, but his approach is more gentle. His man-management is excellent. I feel very at ease with him when I speak to him one to one. The best example of his positive effect is what he’s done with [Florent] Malouda and [Nicolas] Anelka. No disrespect to either of them but Malouda had a difficult first season and is doing very well this time and the same applies to Anelka, who is our top scorer at the moment. I could see the manager going out of his way to work with both because he recognised what he could draw out of them.”
Tactically, there was not the contrast of common perception. Lampard said: “Everyone goes on about our full-backs being liberated, that they weren’t allowed to cross the halfway line under Mourinho, but that’s a fallacy. In our first two seasons under Jose, when we won the league, our full-backs got forward a lot. When Paulo Ferreira played, he was bombing on all the time.
“Don’t get me wrong, Mourinho had a defensive mind when he had to, when the team was short of some essential ingredients and we had to grind out results. That was the beauty of his management, he was a winner and found a way to do it when we had no wingers, or had centre-halves, like William Gallas, playing at full-back. Everyone got on our case because of the way we played then, but Scolari recognises the importance of defending, too. He likes his full-backs to get forward but nobody mentions the fact that John Obi Mikel stays rooted in front of the centre-backs.
“When one of the full-backs goes forward, he’s an extra centre-half. It’s the way Brazil have played for a long time and, because it’s a bit different here, everyone is getting excited about it, but it’s belittling Mourinho to say he was overly defensive whereas Scolari is a flair manager. I wouldn’t put it like that at all.”
So thenewChelsea was a figment of our imagination? “No, I’m not saying that, what I am saying is that in the first two years under Mourinho we were all about our dynamic wingers, with [Arjen] Robben and [Damien] Duff flying down the wing and creating chances. Now we’re more into build-up play, with one- and two-touch passing. That’s the style the manager has brought with him from Brazil and Portugal. We train two-touch all the time.” Lampard’s own role was unchanged. “I’m still playing on the left of a fairly tight three in midfield, although maybe I’ve had slightly more freedom than I had last season. Scolari will tell me, ‘You’re free, go and do what you want, but when we’re defending get back on that left side’.” It is his preferred position. “I’ve done it for five years now, since Mourinho first came, and it becomes second nature to you. But I definitely prefer playing with a holding midfield player there, slightly more defensive, so that I can really bomb on.”
Was this at the root of the problem he experienced when he was asked to dovetail with the equally adventurous Steven Gerrard for England? Lampard said: “I saw the interview in The Sunday Times when Steven spoke about his favoured role and it got blown out of proportion by some people. What he was saying was that his ideal position would be with a bit of freedom, with somebody behind him. But we both know that it’s not an ideal world, we don’t always get to play in our ideal positions. I’m playing what is basically a holding role with England now, with which I’m finding another challenge.
“People think all I’m interested in is getting forward to hit shots and score goals but I accept that if you want to be a top player you’ve got to have a bit of discipline and the intelligence to do that, and I’m happy to try because I think I can do it pretty well. Maybe I can add something different to the job, with the occasional run forward. Ideally, you want to play for club and country in your favourite position but if you don’t, you’ve got to adapt. I’ve played for England on the left, in the holding role or more forward, and I’ve had good and bad games in all of them. I agree with Harry [Redknapp], who always used to say at West Ham that there was too much fuss made about tactics. It’s all about players and your attitude when you go out there on the pitch.
“I think modern-day management is less about tactics and more about man-management. Look at the England job. England have got good players who win the Champions League and perform for their clubs week in, week out. The need is to make them feel that same confidence at international level.
“With England, our lack of confidence was obvious for everybody to see and I was part of that. That night against Croatia at Wembley, when we got knocked out [in the qualifying stages of Euro 2008], they started to move the ball about and we couldn’t. We all felt that we were going to give the ball away every time we got it. That is how demoralised we had become with England, and what [Fabio] Capello has brought us is just what we needed - order and leadership at the top. His attitude is, ‘I’m the boss, you do the job I’ve given you and I’ll take any flak’. The players have all responded to that.”
Capello said in midweek that after recent results on their travels, he believed the fans would get behind England, rather than on their backs, the next time they played at Wembley - a view with which Lampard agreed. “The relationship between supporters and players is a two-way thing,” he said. “The punters have got to go to games to support their team, not with the mindset to boo after 10 minutes the first time the ball goes astray.
“For our part, the players have got to go out there and perform with 100% attitude to get the fans behind them. We’ve both let ourselves down. Some fans have come to Wembley intending to dig us out early on, and as players we’ve gone out for England and not shown enough quality and even desire at times. But when you break it down, it’s ridiculous as a fan to go and boo your own players. I’ve got no problem with criticism, as a top player you know you have to take it, and I have [notably against Estonia a year ago and the Czech Republic in August].
“You can’t get the hump with someone walking home from a game and saying ‘Lampard was crap today’, or even booing at the end, but booing an individual during the game, like they did to Ashley Cole [in the match against Kazakhstan last month] is obviously detrimental to the team as a whole. With some players, you can see the confidence drain out of them and they hide. Fans have got to realise that, and I’m sure a lot of them do, but there are some who set out with the attitude of, ‘I’ve paid my money, they earn thousands every week, I can say whatever I want to them’. Then it becomes a battle where fans don’t particularly like the players, so the players don’t particularly like the fans, and nobody is the winner. We’re in danger of going down that road.”
At club level, Lampard is confidence personified. “I do believe we’re going to win the league this time,” he said. “Man-chester United deserved to win it last time but with the squad we’ve got, the belief running through the players and the quality of the manager, I think we’ll do it.” The biggest threat? “I would still say Man U.”
- Frank Lampard is promoting Chelsea Soccer Schools, which are running during the Christmas holidays in London, Surrey, Essex and Sussex for boys and girls aged 4-14. For further information, visit www.chelseafc.com/soccer-schools or call 020 7957 8220
LAMPARD’S PROGRESS
July 1994 Joins West Ham as an apprentice, making his full senior debut
18 months later
Oct 1999 Full England debut in 2-1 win over Belgium. Leads the Under21s
at the 2000 European championships
June 2001 Joins Chelsea in £11m transfer. Shows good form and despite
missing out on England selection for the 2002 World Cup, agrees a new
five-year deal at Stamford Bridge
Nov 2005 Second to Ronaldinho in European and Fifa world player of the
year awards
2005-6 Wins back-to-back Premier League titles
May 2008 Scores in Champions League final but Chelsea lose on penalties
to Man United
July 2008 Stays at Chelsea despite an offer from Inter Milan
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