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Sir Alex Ferguson will hold a summit meeting with Gabriel Heinze, his unsettled defender, on Monday - but his resolve not to sell the Manchester United defender to Liverpool remains unbreakable.
Even though Liverpool have matched United’s £6.8 million asking price for the 29-year-old defender, the Red Devils are refusing to sell. Ferguson, backed by chief executive David Gill is adamant United will not do business with any of their major domestic rivals, leaving Heinze to ponder taking legal action against his own club in a bid to force through a controversial move down the East Lancs Road.
A suggestion has been put forward for the Premier League to mediate in the matter, which could end up with Heinze becoming the first player since Phil Chisnall in 1964 to switch from United to Liverpool.
However, Ferguson does not believe any third-party involvement will affect the Old Trafford club’s position. “That will take years,” laughed the Scot, when informed the Premier League may trigger negotiations.
“There is no update on Gaby’s position. He is due back to training next Monday and once we have a meeting with him, his position may become a little clearer. As far as the Premier League is concerned, they can do what they like. We are quite confident in our position.”
Ferguson confirmed there had been a few inquiries regarding Alan Smith, whose future at Old Trafford appears increasingly uncertain.
Newcastle and Middlesbrough are both thought to have had bids accepted for the England striker, while Everton would be interested if they could offload James Beattie.
However, Smith was training as normal at Carrington this morning, with Ferguson stating no deal was imminent. “It is a bit open,” he said. “There have been a few inquiries and we know Alan wants first-team football but nothing has been decided.”
Meanwhile, Ferguson has confirmed injured trio Gary Neville, Louis Saha and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer will all miss Sunday’s Community Shield showdown with Chelsea at Wembley.
The players were absent from United’s pre-season tour - Neville with an ankle injury, Saha and Solskjaer because of knee problems. Ferguson expressed the hope in the Far East that all three might be available this week. However, not only will they sit out tomorrow’s Old Trafford friendly with Inter Milan, the Serie A title-winners, they will also miss the Chelsea game and, possibly, the Barclays Premier League opener with Reading on August 12 as well.
“Those lads are still not ready,” said Ferguson. “I think we are looking at a couple of weeks for the three of them.”
New signing Nani is also doubtful for tomorrow’s encounter, while Ferguson expects fellow summer buys Owen Hargreaves and Anderson to feature against either Doncaster on Friday or Peterborough 24 hours later.
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Heinze will move to Liverpool.
Old Alex, Helsinki, FInland
Liverpool fan by any chance?! Ferguson is being true to United's heritage and doesn't want to give an inch to Liverpool. He may of course be simply trying to squeeze a couple of million more for a player who proved a liability at the back end of last season. In other words, Heinze is perfect for Liverpool. Mindgames by Fergie and United are enjoying seeing Liverpool squirm. Rather amusing.
Taz, Frankfurt am Main, Germany
As a Liverpool fan I hope that Rafa turns around and tells Heinze he doesn't want him - then we've totally unsettled one of their players who - let's face it - really can't play for them again. Maybe we should try it with Ronaldo next season.
Best of all was Gill's assertion that the written statement doesn't mean anything... basically he's saying "my word is worth nothing".
And they say there's no honesty left in football.
Dave, Dublin,
John Smith, Belfast: I acknowledge the point you are making but if their intention was not to create legal relations why did Utd send the fax/letter in the first place?
Alan Shore, Boston, USA
I fail to see how Liverpool or the Premier League will have any right to enforce a clause in a document between United and Heinze.
It is a basic principle of Contract Law that a 3rd party will have no rights to enforce a term of a basic english contract against one of the contracting parties.
Dave, Salford,
Manchester United is well within its rights to prevent Heinze from playing for Liverpool. Employers, like Manchester United, are well within their rights to have contract stipulations that preclude their employees from scampering off to offer their services to their enemies. Manchester is wisely permitting Heinze to move abroad, permitting Heinze to ply his trade elsewhere. If this ends in the court, then Manchester United can get an injunction against Heinze, preventing him from playing for Liverpool. As John SMith stated above, a mere fax stating Henze's market valuation will not stand in court. Unless, of course, Manchester's represetatives have signed an agreement releasing Heinze to the highest bidders. That does not seem to be the case here. However, I am wondering if a situation exists in England where a club can 'purchase' Heinze, and then 'sell' him off to Liverpool?
Jonathan, Costa Mesa, CA, USA
If Heinze's representatives were informed that United were not prepared to sell to a domestic rival, then they really haven't got a leg to stand on in trying to force them to sell his contract.
If, however, they were not informed, it changes the situation little. Whilst it may not be in good faith, a fax stating a fair market vaulation of the player cannot be construed as a binding document. To suggest otherwise is laughable.
John Smith, Belfast,
Steve W, how have you figured that United are 'two faced' and using 'bully boy tactics'?
With Heinze they have a player under contract and don't want to sell him to their domestic rivals - fair enough. With Tevez, they want the player but don't know who they have to buy him from (the Premier League and the player himself have very different opinions of that)!
So, not sure how you've reached those conclusions - although I suspect you, and many spouting opinions like yours, don't actually put that much thought into them.
You're correct about Liverpool not needing Heinze though. He's decent but they have better players for both left back and centre back positions. His best position would be on the left hand side of a back three when there is enough cover for him to dive in a bit. His style would certainly be best suited to La Liga ... I don't think Juve would be sensible in pursuing him.
Tim, Wales,
This is typical of Ferguson and United being totally two-faced. Here they are trying to use bully boy tactics to force through the deal for Tevez, but when the boot's on the other foot they winge and moan like little school kids.
I personally hope they keep him, he's past the pace of the premiership, Danny Alves skinned him in the Copa America final recently. Liverpool have ready made cover for Rise already in Insua who did an excellent job in Argentina's U20 world cup win this summer.
Steve W., Southport, Lancs