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Physically, he is as imposing as ever, but a little of the spirit appears to have drained from Sam Allardyce as he sits down in a hotel near Bolton. Hardly surprising when you consider that it was not so long ago that he was dismissed by Newcastle United. The sack would dent anyone’s ego, and even a man as robust as “Big Sam” went through an emotional buffeting.
“I was shocked, to be honest, then you go through a period of taking all the phone calls, everyone saying ‘why?’ and ‘I can’t believe it,’ ” he says. “Then that dies down, then you reflect, then you get a bit angry, a bit upset. And then you move on. And that is where I am now.”
He claims to have stopped kicking the cat, but losing his job must be all the harder to accept when he sees the chaos that has unfolded at St James’ Park. We will never know if Allardyce could have turned Newcastle into a consistent force, but we can surely agree that he would not have led them into their present pickle perilously close to the relegation zone.
He was sacked after 21 league matches with the team in eleventh place. “No one suggested we were going down,” Allardyce says. The least he deserved was the chance to see out a campaign, a proper opportunity to show whether the methods that carried Bolton Wanderers to league finishes of eighth, sixth, eighth and seventh could be transferred to a so-called big club. Instead, questions about his calibre have been left hanging, unsatisfactorily. He talks about coming back better than ever, about a career on the rise at the age of 53, but privately he must ask himself whether a job such as the one at Newcastle will come up again.
While he waits for offers, he is sitting in the pundit’s chair for a variety of television networks. Given the chance to commentate on Newcastle’s forthcoming relegation battle, he insists that he will not be rancorous towards the men who sacked him, the supporters who showed such indifference or the players who questioned his methods. “I’ve no real bitterness any more because there’s only me who’ll be losing sleep over it,” he says.
The terms of his lucrative payoff prevent him from saying all that he might about his former employers, but he is entitled to vent his frustrations. “If it was 18 months down the line, I would accept my responsibility,” he says. “But when I left, they’d had fewer points in five of the previous ten years. Bobby Robson finished eleventh and eleventh in his first two years before he got them in the Champions League. So I don’t know how much results were a factor.”
Was it, then, the failure to produce the beautiful game? Allardyce was accused of betraying a heritage of cavalier football. He snorts, as well he might, given that we are talking about a club without a trophy since 1969 – when they won the old Fairs Cup – not Barcelona or Real Madrid. “I call that a load of waffle,” he says. “Too many people speak about how the Newcastle fans are, but they are not how they are portrayed. They want to win something, they want to win something so badly they will accept you winning something for the sake of it.”
He points to the gradual improvement being engineered by Juande Ramos at Tottenham Hotspur, based, in the first instance, on diet and organisation. “Tottenham is a case in point,” Allardyce says. “It is not purists’ football that is being talked about there but getting results and winning. Playing style was never an issue. At Newcastle it was never going to be how it was suggested I played at Bolton.”
His plan was 4-3-3, although it was not clear where Alan Smith was going to slot in, whether Mark Viduka would ever be fit enough to lead the line or if Michael Owen could be persuaded to adapt. Progress was fitful. “Newcastle were not good enough, in recent history, to go out and play 4-4-2 every week,” Allardyce says. “And in any case, it is an antiquated system; 4-4-2 has got cobwebs on. We were finding a way of playing, having changed everything behind the scenes. The players were still learning to blend. It was a question of patience. It is like building the Empire State Building in a month. It can’t be done.”
Impatience is a criticism that can be aimed at him, too. Allardyce accepts that if he made a mistake on Tyneside, it was in not persuading the players to buy into his approach. Whether they liked him or not is immaterial, he says, which is just as well because a cabal of senior players were set against him from early on. A far more serious charge is that they rejected his methods.
Allardyce believes that it was a clash between his rigorously scientific approach, which includes reams of analysis, and the laissez faire attitude that was entrenched at Newcastle. “Perhaps I couldn’t sell that to the players because they’d never been shown it before,” he says. “All that was said [before] was, ‘Go out and play.’ But today’s game is not like that. The level of preparation is so detailed that you can’t just say, ‘Off you go, off the cuff.’ I was challenging them to adapt and maybe that was a problem. I think I gave the players too much too soon.
“Too direct? If those players had the ability to look at their ProZone stats instead of me shouting at them, they would have learnt more about their game than they’ve ever done. They would have learnt something about themselves.
I don’t know whether any of that played a part in losing my job. If other people listen to the Chinese whispers or the tittle-tattle, no manager would ever get the chance to build or be successful. Maybe I should have gone, ‘Sod year two, sod year three, I’ll just worry about tomorrow.’ But I’m not like that. I try to build something that has sustainability, not a flash in the pan. I don’t want to sound like I’m making excuses, but how can you judge [from seven months]? It is destined to be a great club somewhere down the line, but who can make it that I don’t know. The longer it goes on without that success they think they deserve, the harder it is to achieve it, and they can’t do it by changing managers all the time.”
With Kevin Keegan hopelessly out of his depth, Newcastle will probably be on to another manager by the time Allardyce returns to work, which he hopes to do in the summer. He may be forced to drop into the Coca-Cola Championship, while part of him is intrigued by working in Spain. “I’d be fascinated to see if they would appoint an English manager out there,” he says.
Moving abroad would help him to dodge the BBC, with which he has refused to engage since the Panorama documentary that alleged that his son, Craig, benefited from nepotism during Allardyce’s days at Bolton. Harry Redknapp recently dropped his boycott of the BBC, but Allardyce is not keen to discuss either the corporation or the Portsmouth manager who might have succeeded him on Tyneside.
“Only he [Redknapp] and Newcastle know what the contact was before they decided to get rid of me,” Allardyce says. “It appears that there was, but I don’t know. We haven’t talked about it.” Oh, to be a fly on the wall the next time Harry and Sam talk in private.
At one stage, Allardyce might have regarded a successful spell at Newcastle as a stepping stone to the England job. He is convinced that the national team should be led by an Englishman and even argues that Steve McClaren was underpaid by the FA. “Why pay an Englishman only a quarter of what they are paying Fabio Capello?” he says. “It is like saying an Englishman will take less because he’ll be grateful. I don’t want to get destructive about Capello, he has got the track record. I’m just patriotic.”
The invasion of foreign players is another topic that he can talk about endlessly and passionately. “The most scary comment I have heard is that Barnsley have 12 foreigners in their squad [it is actually eight],” he says. “Barnsley! If we don’t put it right very shortly, the backlash is going to be catastrophic. We care about sport, we love it, but we don’t spend time developing it. We will fail in the Olympics [authorities are trying to enter a Great Britain team for 2012] miserably.”
Allardyce’s recent fate might be said to be a measure of our inadequacies. Like McClaren, he is one of the most successful English managers of recent years. That pair are about as good as we have got. Yet both are out of work and wondering how low they might have to drop to get back into the game.
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Spent first seven years of playing career as centre back at Bolton Wanderers before shorter spells with six other clubs. Began managerial career as player-manager at Limerick for a year, guiding them to promotion. Impressive stints with Blackpool and Notts County earned him Bolton job in 1999. Took Bolton into second tier play-offs in first season and to top flight a year later. Became Newcastle United manager last summer but left in January with team in mid-table.
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Please ,please Newcastle fans stop being so deluded! Having lived in your beautiful city for many years please answer me this one question- Would you rather play great football and win nothing ,or simply win someting regardless of the style of play ? Until you can honestly answer this question then it is no matter who your manager is, as you so proudly boast , and demonstrated with the departure of Allardyce, your club is ruled by the fans ,and as such the decision is your's! Think wisely
Russ, Newcastle,
Far to many journo's have jumped onto this anti-Newcastle/Keegan bandwagon without really analysing the situation (not Caulkin)
Keegan is slowly trying to rebuild a squad shattered of confidence in the midst of a stinking fixture list. He could have picked up a couple of wins at best but not from Liverpool, Man U or Arsenal away, twice. Allardyce had easier fixtures in the first half of the season and should have had 40pts before he was sacked.
KK is a risky choice but the way people are writing about him you would think he was a cowardly village idiot. The man has a great record with Newcastle, Man City and Fulham and should be respected for acknowledging his limitations with England instead of waiting for his pay off.
The current board are finding their feet and I hope they do it quickly - but they can't be blamed for the previous boards errors. Neither can the fans be blamed for wanting attractive succesful football rather than Allardyce's square peg, round hole fumblings
Luke, London,
Well said Phil Wood! The problem with Newcastle is that they are grossly misunderstood by so many people. Msr Dickinsons comment about Newcastle not being in this plight if Allardyce had stayed rankles; this is his doing. His signings, his demoralised squad. The Allardyce suggestion that we (the Geordies) just wanted to win at all costs shows that he still hasn't got it even now - pig ignorance.
Hail Keegan! At least HE knows the score.
Johnny, Newcastle,
As a Newcastle fan who doesn't live in Newcastle I can look at the situation objectively, something not many of my fellow Geordies ever manage. When I questioned the KK appointment on a forum 2 months ago I was roundly accused of being a Sunderland fan.
Allardcye was sacked because the fans put too much pressure on him and Ashley didn't want to wait for them to turn against him. I find it unfathomable that he was sacked 9 months in to a three year program. You can bet your life that mid-table was all he expected in his first season and mid-table is what he got. Would he have done anything in the next few seasons? Nobody knows now.
I love KK but he's clueless. 15 years ago nobody knew it, and his charisma carried the team. Now everybody knows his limits. My guess is he'll quit at the end of the season, whether or not we stay up.
John , Taipei ,
Being England Manager and a club manager require different skills. Just because someone is successful at club level doesn't automatically mean he would suceed at International level. I am a Pompey supporter and although HR has done a great job with PFC I think he would have failed as England Manager. I put Big Sam in the same category. They need the day to day cut and thrust of a club and contact daily with the players; thats their lifeblood. Being in an ivory tower and selecting players and then being with them for a short time before games would bore both of them and they would soon lose the flair. Sam will come good again, he just needs to get over the Newcastle thing and find a club that suits his style and get on with it.
david, gold coast, Australia
I think Big Sam's reputation as a football manager must be revised. He was serving up dross at Newcastle whilst Juande Ramos and Sven have shown how good they are. Especially Ramos already winning a trophy in his first season with Spurs without the benefit of having a player signed by him. Big Sam had, I believe, 7 or 8 players of his own and a whole Summer to prepare for the season. Sven isn't doing too shabby either in his first year with Manchester City. In my opinion Big Sam was found out, he's not good enough to win anything. He's in the same class as Curbishley, Redknapp, and McClaren midtable mediocrity with the occassional 6th place finish at best.
Ryan, Syosset, USA
I, similarly, have a lot of pity for Sam Allardyce. First his Bolton achievements are belittled by Phil Gartside, who thought Sammy Lee would make an even better fist of the job. (And we all know how that worked out.) Then he's given next-to-no-time to turn Newcastle around.
The Newcastle fans may moan about the unattractive football that was being served up, but i doubt the club would be in such a dicey predicament if Sam Allardyce were still in charge.
Peter koeb, Aljezur, Portugal
Alardyce is right. The game has moved on from the keegan era. look at Arsenal and United. Tottenham under Ramos have begun to move into the new era. The days of "go out and play" are over. Technique and science have become the order of the day.
Hamad Lone, London, England
At the end of day:
Allardyce giving Newcastle a probable 8th-12th place finish or Keegan getting them relegated.
Nice one Newcastle. You deserve it.
Allardyce wasn´t going to bring Arsenal style football to St. James´ but results wise he was doing ok.
At this time of the season it´s all about momentum. Reading are now doing ok, you can see Birmingham, Wigan and Sunderland nicking some points but Newcasle? All the best...
Matty, Berlin, Germany
Re ;Allardyce article
I would like to inform Allardyce that THE EMPIRE STATE
BUILDING was built in 7 months !
Ben, Melbourne, Australia
Phil - The reason that people like me have no time for Keegan is because of the disgraceful way he left the England job.
He was out of his depth and, to his credit, he knew it - some of us knew it when he called up Chris Armstrong into his first squad - but to dump his team, his colleagues and the country's hopes four days before a crucial qualifying game for his own selfish emotional reasons was and is inexcusable. He should have seen the next game out and then buggered off and then at least he would have retained some respect.
Richard, London,
just when your thought the chelsea, spurs and liverpool boards had treated their managers pretty badly, along come Newcastle to remind us how not to run a football club.
i don't mind newcastle or kevin keegan but what they need is change from the bottom, exactly what Alladyce would have done given time.
instead they whinge about the football (when was the last time they actually played good football anyway) and sack a perfectly capable manager who has them in mid table
keegan's a nice guy but football has moved miles on from his style on management and i think even he knows that....just a matter of time before we see another newscastle manager
rich smith, london,
and to use ramos as an example is hilarios the football they play under him is a million times more entertaing than the dross big sam served up at nufc. his football was worse than soueys and dagliesh.
his plan was 433, so his plan was to play smith in cm then ??? sorry but no manager worth his salt would pay 6m for smith then try and trun him into a mf player. it smacks of arrogance and big sam saying i can do what fergie couldnt.
fitness and diet can only get an extra 10% when you have good footballers like diouf/hierro/campo/speed/okocha/djorkaeff/anelka etc a category smith and barton will never ever come into.
he paid 6m for a left back then never played him thus playing nufc best attacking mf player at lb. good management ???
he wouldnt last 5 mins in spain with the football he serves up. otherwise i hope hes prepared for the white hankey treatment. if ever there was a league whos fans demand proper football its la liga.
iain nicolson, newcastle, uk
"With Kevin Keegan hopelessly out of his depth"
Out of his depth with a squad of players he inherited from Allardyce that has no pace or creativity and have the look of old men who can hardly run anymore (Geremi, Viduka). I think KK deserves alot more respect than people give him and he has certainly achieved alot more as a manager than Allardyce has. Ok he didn't win the title but he got closer than any Englishman in recent times, can you imagine a club now pulling 12 points clear of Man Utd in todays football, and doing it in a style that every football fan across the country appreciates and wants to watch. The media and opposition fans are just waiting for KK to fail and it is starting to get spiteful. What has the man done to engineer such cynicism apart from accept challenges, play the right way, wear his heart on his sleeve and walk away with no pay off (unlike two other "highly successful" English managers of recent times).
Yet Allardyce an Steve Mc are considered a sucess
Phil Wood, Hong Kong,
I've always admired Sam and his skills, but you have to wonder when he says "the supporters who showed such indifference ", unless indifference is a new word for venom.
Bill M, Sydney, Australia